[Finale] Playback question

2007-05-10 Thread Carl Dershem
Using FinWin2k4, when I use playback in anything with a Latin beat, it 
gets to the last measure and slows to a crawl.  Any idea why?  ANy clue 
how to make it stop?


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Re: [Finale] OT: goats in opera (was Can you spot the fake?)

2007-05-10 Thread Mark D Lew


On May 10, 2007, at 6:38 PM, Mariposa Symphony Orchestra wrote:

And then there's the line in the final scene in which Porgy shouts  
"Bring my goat!" and just a moment later, the stage direction reads:


(Mingo leads goat and cart over, Porgy holds up arms and is helped  
into cart)


I stand corrected!

The consolation for making a fool statement is that at least one  
learns something new in the process.  To Les and Aaron: thanks for  
educating me on this.


mdl
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Re: [Finale] OT: goats in opera (was Can you spot the fake?)

2007-05-10 Thread Mariposa Symphony Orchestra
Welll..

Except for the actual 1935 libretto's direction just before Porgy's initial 
entrance:

(Scipio opens one side of iron gate.  Porgy enters in goat cart; crowd greets 
him.) 

And then there's the line in the final scene in which Porgy shouts "Bring my 
goat!" and just a moment later, the stage direction reads: 

(Mingo leads goat and cart over, Porgy holds up arms and is helped into cart) 

.just before Porgy sings "I'm on my way." 

Best,

Les
Les Marsden
Founding Music Director and Conductor, 
The Mariposa Symphony Orchestra
Music and Mariposa?  Ah, Paradise!!!
 
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  On May 10, 2007, at 4:47 PM, Aaron Rabushka wrote:

  > "Porgy and Bess," by some chance?

  Porgy rides around in a goat-cart, but nothing in the libretto  
  suggests an actual goat pulling it.  Porgy propels himself with his  
  strong arms.

  Meyerbeer's _Dinorah_, on the other hand, does feature a goat that is  
  central to the story and appears prominently on stage ... but that  
  opera, in spite of the one famous coloratura aria, is hardly produced  
  anymore.

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Re: [Finale] OT: goats in opera (was Can you spot the fake?)

2007-05-10 Thread Aaron Rabushka
Toward the end of the show when Porgy finds out that Bess is gone and is
determined to go after her he says rather loudly (at least in the version
they did in Bloomington) "Bring my goat!"  And in the Bloomignton production
for which I was on the stage crew there was a real goat. Dinorah is a new
one on me. Then again, most of the Meyerbeer I know is in excerpts.

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>
> On May 10, 2007, at 4:47 PM, Aaron Rabushka wrote:
>
> > "Porgy and Bess," by some chance?
>
> Porgy rides around in a goat-cart, but nothing in the libretto
> suggests an actual goat pulling it.  Porgy propels himself with his
> strong arms.
>
> Meyerbeer's _Dinorah_, on the other hand, does feature a goat that is
> central to the story and appears prominently on stage ... but that
> opera, in spite of the one famous coloratura aria, is hardly produced
> anymore.
>
> mdl
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Re: [Finale] OT: goats in opera (was Can you spot the fake?)

2007-05-10 Thread Mark D Lew


On May 10, 2007, at 4:47 PM, Aaron Rabushka wrote:


"Porgy and Bess," by some chance?


Porgy rides around in a goat-cart, but nothing in the libretto  
suggests an actual goat pulling it.  Porgy propels himself with his  
strong arms.


Meyerbeer's _Dinorah_, on the other hand, does feature a goat that is  
central to the story and appears prominently on stage ... but that  
opera, in spite of the one famous coloratura aria, is hardly produced  
anymore.


mdl
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Re: [Finale] OT: Can you spot the fake?

2007-05-10 Thread Aaron Rabushka
"Porgy and Bess," by some chance?

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>
>
> In a message dated 10/05/2007 02:14:29 GMT Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> >(like the time I went to The Bartered Bride in
> >Bloomington  and my companion thrilled to the real chickens  on  stage).
>
>
> Reminds of the time I played a gig which called a goat on stage.   I was
> appalled to find that it was paid more than I was (and I didn't c*** on
the
> stage, which is more than can be said for the goat).
>
> Cheers,
>
> Lawrence
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>
> lawrenceyates.co.uk
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Re: [Finale] playback issue

2007-05-10 Thread dhbailey

Andrew Stiller wrote:
FinMac 2K7a. I have a piece for four recorders, which I got from someone 
else who uses an earlier version of Finale. After updating, the 
instrument window shows the following choice of instruments: Recorder, 
Instrument 2, Instrument 3, and Instrument 4. All are assigned to 
different channels, and each is assigned the sound GM 75--recorder.


However, on playback only Instrument 4 plays back with an appropriate 
sound. All the others play back with a grand  piano sound. I have done 
much experimenting (changing channel numbers, assigning related timbres 
[such as panpipes], etc.) but nothing  works. All four parts, 
apparently, must be assigned to Instrument 4 and nothing else.


That would be OK if I could only send the individual parts to different 
channels, but I can't.


What's going on here, and  what should I do about it?



I would look for expressions defined for playback, which may have been 
defined as patch change, all set to patch 1.


Whoever you got the file from may have simply copied an existing 
expression and then edited it for something new.  I'd suggest looking in 
the first measure, since the sounds start from the beginning.


Alternatively, possibly go into the Playback Options, More Options and 
be sure to UNcheck the box labeled Play Recorded Data.


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Re: [Finale] OT: John Cage's first national TV appearance (1960)

2007-05-10 Thread Andrew Stiller


On May 10, 2007, at 12:40 PM, Randolph Peters wrote:

I thought the list might get a kick out of John Cage's first national 
TV appearance (1960):


http://blog.wfmu.org/freeform/2007/04/john_cage_on_a_.html



I suspect what got him on the show was that he had previously appeared 
as a contestant on an Italian quiz show and cleaned up in the category 
"mushrooms."


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[Finale] playback issue

2007-05-10 Thread Andrew Stiller
FinMac 2K7a. I have a piece for four recorders, which I got from 
someone else who uses an earlier version of Finale. After updating, the 
instrument window shows the following choice of instruments: Recorder, 
Instrument 2, Instrument 3, and Instrument 4. All are assigned to 
different channels, and each is assigned the sound GM 75--recorder.


However, on playback only Instrument 4 plays back with an appropriate 
sound. All the others play back with a grand  piano sound. I have done 
much experimenting (changing channel numbers, assigning related timbres 
[such as panpipes], etc.) but nothing  works. All four parts, 
apparently, must be assigned to Instrument 4 and nothing else.


That would be OK if I could only send the individual parts to different 
channels, but I can't.


What's going on here, and  what should I do about it?

Andrew Stiller
Kallisti Music Press
http://www.kallistimusic.com/

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[Finale] OT: John Cage's first national TV appearance (1960)

2007-05-10 Thread Randolph Peters
I thought the list might get a kick out of John Cage's first national 
TV appearance (1960):


http://blog.wfmu.org/freeform/2007/04/john_cage_on_a_.html


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Re: [Finale] OT: Can you spot the fake?

2007-05-10 Thread John Howell

At 10:46 PM -0400 5/9/07, David W. Fenton wrote:

On 9 May 2007 at 22:29, John Howell wrote:


 Kodály had it right
 when he said, "Only the best musicians should be
 PERMITTED to teach children."


Many people confuse "the best musicians" with "the best performers,"
the determiment of the students involved.


That's a very wise observation, David.  Every 
time we have had finalists for a faculty position 
in music on campus, it seems that what everyone 
is most interested in is their performance 
audition.  Not that that doesn't also reveal a 
lot more about musicianship and all sorts of 
things, but our JOB is to teach students.  Role 
modeling by playing at a high level IS part of 
that, but only part, especially when it comes to 
voice teachers.


John


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Re: [Finale] Smart Hyphens Bug

2007-05-10 Thread Johannes Gebauer

On 10.05.2007 dhbailey wrote:
Why should we be able to have auto-update-layout turned on so that we 
don't have to update it, but have to remember (I didn't even know 
this was a necessity) to manually update the hyphens?  They should 
update automatically.




Actually, to be fair, that is possible, only the option is hidden away 
at a strange place...


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Re: [Finale] Permission to arrange

2007-05-10 Thread Phil Daley

John Howell wrote:
> Is this the list on which there was a discussion on making a jazz
> arrangement of Copland's "Fanfare" led to questions about whether
> marching band arrangements are made with permission of the copyright
> owners?  If not, my apologies.  Nobody ever changes the subject lines
> even when the subject wanders far afield, and I can't fine the messages
> I thought I saved.
>
> Anyhow, I asked our faculty composer who for many years did write the
> arrangements for our marching band, although he no longer does.  And
> yes, he applied for permission for every single arrangement over all
> those years, to protect himself and the university.  He says you
> generally get one of four responses, once the form gets to the
> publisher's permissions person.  (1) Permission with no payment
> required; (2) permission with a small administrative fee charged, maybe
> up to $50; (3) permission based on an outrageous demand for payment of
> $1000 or more, which amounts to refusal of permission in most instances;
> (4) outright refusal of permission.

I believe that would be pretty much standard.  I marched at UCONN for 7 
years and we had a specific band arranger person, he could only do numbers 
for which he got permission.


I think his greatest arrangement was of a Copland? piece that had a section 
with mixed rhythm (3/4 against 2/2 or maybe 4/4) and he had the band in 2 
sections on the field marching to the different rhythms.  You might imagine 
that took a while to work out ;-)


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Re: [Finale] OT: Can you spot the fake?

2007-05-10 Thread Phil Daley

At 5/9/2007 02:57 PM, Randolph Peters wrote:

>For the fun of it, I gave the quiz to my 15 year old. He is a serious
>violinist, but is not that familiar with electronic instruments. He
>got it right as well. I was curious as to what gave it away for him
>and he said the attacks of each note, especially in the strings, was
>too uniform. He said a good phrase would have more variety and
>direction in each note.
>
>I thought that was an interesting take and not the first thing I
>would have noticed. I guess we focus on the things that we are
>trained to notice.

Right.  I noticed that the clarinet attacks sounded fake, right away.

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Re: [Finale] Smart Hyphens Bug

2007-05-10 Thread dhbailey

Johannes Gebauer wrote:

On 10.05.2007 dc wrote:
But don't forget that with smart hyphens on you have to "update" them 
(Edit menu) for them to appear (at least some of them).




Ah. That explains that. Now I see all the hyphens. They are not exactly 
smart, though, if I have to update them manually, are they?


Johannes


The other question that raises in my mind is why there isn't some 
master-switch which auto-updates *everything* in Finale which is updatable.


Why should we be able to have auto-update-layout turned on so that we 
don't have to update it, but have to remember (I didn't even know this 
was a necessity) to manually update the hyphens?  They should update 
automatically.


ctrl-u should update everything, not just the layout, especially since 
other things can affect how we feel about the layout.


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Re: [Finale] OT: Sound reinforcement (was Can you spot the fake?)

2007-05-10 Thread dhbailey

Raymond Horton wrote:
[snip]>
Once, many years ago, a rock sound guy (perhaps not the tightest cable 
tie in the bunch, if you get my drift) was setting up mics for a pops 
concert of ours.  I mentioned to him how we had a problem at the 
rehearsal getting a solo heard.  He said to me, missing the point of 
what I had just said:


"That's the great thing about a symphony job.  You just put up a bunch 
of mics, turn 'em on, and it sounds like a symphony!"


How can you argue with logic like that?



He didn't grow up to be president, did he?

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Re: [Finale] Permission to arrange

2007-05-10 Thread dhbailey
Hi, John -- that was the Sibelius list where that discussion took place, 
but that link is certainly helpful on this list as well.  Thank you.


David H. Bailey



John Howell wrote:
Is this the list on which there was a discussion on making a jazz 
arrangement of Copland's "Fanfare" led to questions about whether 
marching band arrangements are made with permission of the copyright 
owners?  If not, my apologies.  Nobody ever changes the subject lines 
even when the subject wanders far afield, and I can't fine the messages 
I thought I saved.


Anyhow, I asked our faculty composer who for many years did write the 
arrangements for our marching band, although he no longer does.  And 
yes, he applied for permission for every single arrangement over all 
those years, to protect himself and the university.  He says you 
generally get one of four responses, once the form gets to the 
publisher's permissions person.  (1) Permission with no payment 
required; (2) permission with a small administrative fee charged, maybe 
up to $50; (3) permission based on an outrageous demand for payment of 
$1000 or more, which amounts to refusal of permission in most instances; 
(4) outright refusal of permission.


The form which I mentioned having seen is here in the Music Publishers' 
Association website:


http://www.mpa.org/copyright/pta.html

(I tried to double check it, but my internet connection has been very 
flaky the last couple of days.)


John





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Re: [Finale] Smart Hyphens Bug

2007-05-10 Thread Johannes Gebauer

On 10.05.2007 dc wrote:
But don't forget that with smart hyphens on you have to "update" them 
(Edit menu) for them to appear (at least some of them).




Ah. That explains that. Now I see all the hyphens. They are not exactly 
smart, though, if I have to update them manually, are they?


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