Re: [Finale] Why?
Is the flash drive partitioned? I'm wondering if a hidden partition could account for part of the unused space? -Carl Dean M. Estabrook wrote: Up until lately, I've been saving files to my flash drive without any probs. The last couple of days, I've attempted to save a mere 128kb file to it, and it produces a message saying there is no space available ... however, it claims at the bottom of the window that there are about 1.4 GBs of unused space. Why? Dean Dean M. Estabrook http://deanestabrook.googlepages.com/home "When I am working on a problem, I never think about beauty. But when I have finished, if the solution is not beautiful, I know it is wrong. " R. Buckminster Fuller ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Why?
On 28 Aug 2008 at 15:50, Dean M. Estabrook wrote: > Up until lately, I've been saving files to my flash drive without any > probs. The last couple of days, I've attempted to save a mere 128kb > file to it, and it produces a message saying there is no space > available ... however, it claims at the bottom of the window that > there are about 1.4 GBs of unused space. Why? Have you removed the drive properly and rebooted your computer? Have you run a disk check on it? Is it, perhaps, one of those brands that runs proprietary software that interferes with direct access to the drive (SanDisk and it's U- whatever software is the prime offender for this)? -- David W. Fentonhttp://dfenton.com David Fenton Associates http://dfenton.com/DFA/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Why?
Up until lately, I've been saving files to my flash drive without any probs. The last couple of days, I've attempted to save a mere 128kb file to it, and it produces a message saying there is no space available ... however, it claims at the bottom of the window that there are about 1.4 GBs of unused space. Why? Dean Dean M. Estabrook http://deanestabrook.googlepages.com/home "When I am working on a problem, I never think about beauty. But when I have finished, if the solution is not beautiful, I know it is wrong. " R. Buckminster Fuller ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] Finale Documentation Review
>P.S., Mark, are you related to another MM big guy, Michael Johnson? :-) Yes. He is my boss. :-) -Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of A-NO-NE Music Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 11:53 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale Documentation Review I don't consider a manual if I can't read it in my bedtime. I usually print PDF manual out but Finale manual is too big for home printing. So, I paid for the printed manual from MM a few years ago, only to find they are printed sideway, 2 pages side by side. This won't let me read in my bed. And when I received it, the new version was already at the corner. I really miss the glorious Finale 1.0 manual set, a set of 3 books. I would like to ask for a better printed manual, and special manual for owner of the previous version which is only a new sections to the previous version. P.S., Mark, are you related to another MM big guy, Michael Johnson? :-) -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Greater Boston http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale Documentation Review
At 10:24 AM 8/28/2008, shirling & neueweise wrote: >for e.g. i get to the login page, type in >username/pass hit go and it starts to go and >hangs. a few minutes later i get a "server too >busy" message. You mean http://finalemusic.com/store/login.aspx?t=myaccount.aspx ? It worked for me both last night and right now, so I'm not sure why it's not working for you. Sorry. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] RE: OT: Kanno, Mieko. "The Role of Notation in New Music."
Oh yeah. Oops. Maybe you'll have more luck once term starts - second week of October for Durham > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of shirling & neueweise > Sent: 28 August 2008 15:01 > To: finale@shsu.edu > Subject: [Finale] RE: OT: Kanno, Mieko. "The Role of Notation > in New Music." > > > > >Maybe just try emailing her and seeing if she can help? > >http://www.dur.ac.uk/music/staff/?username=dmu0mk > > yes that's what i meant by: > > >i have tried to contact the author but haven't received a response. > > ;-) > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale Documentation Review
All is working fine for me this morning. Have you (just for kicks) tried a different browser? yes of course. mac firefox, mac safari, PC opera, PC firefox for e.g. i get to the login page, type in username/pass hit go and it starts to go and hangs. a few minutes later i get a "server too busy" message. Safari can¹t open the page ³https://www.finalemusic.com/store/login.aspx?t=download.aspx&id=404² because the server unexpectedly dropped the connection, which sometimes occurs when the server is busy. You might be able to open the page later. The connection to the server was reset while the page was loading. - The site could be temporarily unavailable or too busy. Try again in a few moments. - If you are unable to load any pages, check your computer's network connection. - If your computer or network is protected by a firewall or proxy, make sure that Firefox is permitted to access the Web. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] RE: OT: Kanno, Mieko. "The Role of Notation in New Music."
Maybe just try emailing her and seeing if she can help? http://www.dur.ac.uk/music/staff/?username=dmu0mk yes that's what i meant by: i have tried to contact the author but haven't received a response. ;-) ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] OT: Kanno, Mieko. "The Role of Notation in New Music."
Maybe just try emailing her and seeing if she can help? http://www.dur.ac.uk/music/staff/?username=dmu0mk > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of shirling & neueweise > Sent: 28 August 2008 14:22 > To: finale@shsu.edu > Subject: [Finale] OT: Kanno, Mieko. "The Role of Notation in > New Music." > > > > anyone know of a functioning address for this article? i have tried > to contact the author but haven't received a response. > > > Kanno, Mieko. "The Role of Notation in New Music." > http://www.hud.ac.uk/schools/music+humanities/music/newmusic/n otation_role.html. [Last accessed 2001. Link is no longer active.] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] OT: Kanno, Mieko. "The Role of Notation in New Music."
anyone know of a functioning address for this article? i have tried to contact the author but haven't received a response. Kanno, Mieko. "The Role of Notation in New Music." http://www.hud.ac.uk/schools/music+humanities/music/newmusic/notation_role.html. [Last accessed 2001. Link is no longer active.] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Fwd: Call for Chapter Proposal: Structuring Music through Markup Language: Designs and Architectures
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:59:40 +0200 From: Jacques Steyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CALL FOR CHAPTER PROPOSALS Proposal Submission Deadline: 30 September 2008 Structuring Music through Markup Language: Designs and Architectures A book edited by Jacques Steyn (Monash University) INTRODUCTION In a nutshell, this book is about describing music systems using markup languages, particularly XML. Questions about the nature of music have been asked from different perspectives: from the point of view of Systematic Musicology, or from the point of view of Cultural Musicology. Systematic Musicology, or Scientific Musicology, investigates music from the perspective of the physics of sound, acoustics, cognitive sciences, physiology, neurosciences, computing and technology. Systematic Musicology focuses on music in general. Cultural Musicology focuses on hermeneutic, phenomenological and mystic interpretations of music. Music Informatics and computer technology provide a different perspective on the nature of music than offered by intellectual paradigms of earlier eras. Music Informatics focuses on the information structure of music. Developing an XML-based language for music, that needs to result in practically working systems, requires both an epistemological and ontological description of music. In this context, Music Informatics brings together Systematic Musicology and Cultural Musicology, two approaches which lacked constructive discussion in the past. In the past, most approaches to music from a computing perspective have focused on using the computer as a tool for performance, archiving, and recording. The World Wide Web and particularly markup languages, such as XML, offer a whole new set of tools not only for practical implementations, but also for a new investigation into the theory of music. The rigour of an XML language serves as a conceptual tool to ask penetrating questions about the nature of music. This book investigates music from both a systematic and cultural musicological point of view, and the effect of such a view on the design of a markup language of music. A general and universal approach to music is a high level abstraction from which cultural variations derive. To make possible the universal exchange of different cultural expressions of music by means of computing technologies, this high level abstraction needs to be described along ontological lines. The outcome of such an investigation provides a framework within which to design and develop an XML-based language that makes translation possible between different cultural music systems. Such an approach should also assist in the development of a culture-neutral descriptive markup language that could be used to express symbolic music representation that is not biased toward Common Western Music Notation. Several XML-based languages for music are available. Most focus on Common Western Music Notation, which is only one particular cultural manifestation of music, and more specifically only one particular writing system of music. This book takes the physics of music and acoustics as point of departure for the development of an XML-based music markup language, rather than Common Western Music Notation, which is regarded merely as a specific writing system for a specific cultural expression of music. Yet, while developing basic music concepts on physics, the cultural aspect is factored into the design process. OBJECTIVE OF BOOK This book will be the first publication in the field of Music Informatics and will provide a framework for the design and development of an XML-based general music markup language. Designing an XML-based language depends on ontological questions, which in turn depend on the philosophical paradigm of how music is defined an epistemological question. The approach followed in this book is an attempt to combine the highly technical matter of an XML-based language for computing with philosophical musicological issues. Systematic Musicology is often positivistic, while cultural musicology is often hermeneutic, phenomenological and mystic. This book attempts to bridge the gap by using philosophical concepts for the design of a computer markup language. The themes to be addressed in this book will be of value to scholarly theory as well as music application developers. The Symbolic Music Representation (SMR) initiative provided input into an ISO/MPEG extension for MPEG4 for music representation. Although this initiative did address cross-cultural music notations, it was on a very high level, and lacks details for implementation. That initiative also only focused on written music, and did not touch on the multitude of general music concepts that are also important for the description of music to be used in computer use for music. This limited scope needs to be extended. One particular outcome of this book will be to prov
Re: [Finale] exploding bug in 2009
Unfortunately, no. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 28, 2008, at 12:02 AM, dhbailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: Christopher Smith wrote: On Aug 27, 2008, at 5:36 PM, Chuck Israels wrote: the new expression design, which I find not to be without its problems. Some things work fine, but this does not, and there are issues with linked parts and the fact that you can't assign a dynamic to a note in layer two and have it position itself in relation to that note. (Down stem bass drum notes in drum set parts, for instance.) Chuck Yes, this is a huge pain. When I assign a dynamic to a tuba part alone in Layer 1, the dynamic moves downward nicely. As soon as I have the same tuba part in Layer 2 with bass trombone in Layer 1 above it, the dynamic seems only to take the Layer 1 notes into account. Christopher Does that change if you've put the focus on layer 2 by clicking on the 2 in the lower left of the screen before assigning the dynamic? -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Context menus
Interesting. So it is not just Finale that can have this problem. That Sonar behavior is exactly what is happening to me on Finale 2009. Now that I know what is happening, it is a relatively minor nuisance. When I must use a context menu, I can drag my score over to monitor #1. Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: On Wed, August 27, 2008 8:24 pm, Craig Parmerlee wrote: Is anybody else running a two-monitor system where the desktop spans the two monitors? I'd like to know how widespread the problem is. It could be something very specific to my monitor #2, which is very large (1920x1200), or it might affect everybody using a dual-monitor system. I have Windows XP SP2, Matrox dual-head, two 1680x1050 monitors. I lost the original thread -- not sure which version of Finale, but the right-click context menus in 2007 are working fine on either monitor or both. However, in Sonar 2.2 (the last version I have), the right-click context menus do not work on the second monitor. Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] F2009 / Garritan / NI / Soundblaster incompatibility
I tried to build a new big band score last night using the JABB library. For some of the instruments I had to go with SoftSynth. It took me three tries to get the score built, without my system kept locking up. And once I did get the score built, it locked up when I tried to play the score. I had previously had some success playing smaller ensembles using these instruments, so I was surprised by this. I have plenty of memory and CPU, so that's not the issue. I was using a Soundblaster card from around 2002. I had the latest driver, but that was about 2003. The Soundblaster behaved strangely. Whenever Finale was running with the Kontakt player in use, the Soundblaster could no longer play MP3 files. I had bought this card because it has 2 hardware synthesizers on-board, which made a pretty good solution for playing 32 instruments back in the day. Nowadays, everything is done in software, so that isn't an issue. However, this Soundblaster card also gave me a MIDI port for my keyboard. As it turns out, I recalled that I had an Edirol 4x4 USB MIDI interface collecting dust on the shelf. So I removed the Soundblaster, activated the audio controller that is built into my system board, and installed the Edirol MIDI interface. Now everything works much better. I'm just passing this along in case there are other people with older Soundblaster cards, beating their heads against the wall. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale Documentation Review
At 05:53 AM 8/28/2008, shirling & neueweise wrote: >on the finalemusic.com downloads page i can't select the version >(menu is visible but not accessible) and the search for finale >updates doesn't seem to work. i also can't log in as an "existing >online customer". is their site jammed? > >just checked again, still same problems. checked on another computer >(PC) as well, can't get past the first level on their site. All is working fine for me this morning. Have you (just for kicks) tried a different browser? Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale Documentation Review
You said Finale 2008; do you have the update? That might be an issue... no, but as i said: on the finalemusic.com downloads page i can't select the version (menu is visible but not accessible) and the search for finale updates doesn't seem to work. i also can't log in as an "existing online customer". is their site jammed? just checked again, still same problems. checked on another computer (PC) as well, can't get past the first level on their site. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Unable to launch Finale
When I try to resize the tool pallete into a long, thin, one-column strip, most of the icons disappear, turning into a blank pallete window for its most part, only a few toll icons showing at the top; the resizing box no longer works, the pallete freezes; then I get the raimbow spinning ball for a few moments and Finale quits unexpectedly. Harold At 19:07 -0500 27.08.08, Allen Fisher wrote: >It's something to do with windowing. If they're set up this way already in >prefs, you'll run into it. I *think* if you put them back it may work, but >don't hold me to that. > >I hope all of you that are running into this send in a support request. The >huge advantage to the new case system is that we have a very accurate picture >of what we get contacted about. > >On Aug 27, 2008, at 3:43 PM, Chuck Israels wrote: > >>Hi Allen, >> >>Yes, I resize my main tool palette, putting it into two rows and shortening >>it so tools I rarely use are hidden. Will this behavior stop, if I put the >>palette back to its original configuration? If so, can I find this original >>configuration without starting my preferences from scratch again, or will the >>fact that I moved it around in the first place "carry" the problem and >>require a complete preference rebuild? Or do you know? >> >>Thanks, >> >>Chuck >> >> >>On Aug 27, 2008, at 12:32 PM, Allen Fisher wrote: >> >>>Are you guys resizing your palettes? There's a known issue with resizing >>>palettes vertically in Leopard. >>> >>>Make sure to file this as a support case, and attach your corrupted >>>preferences. >>> >>>On Aug 27, 2008, at 1:43 PM, Chuck Israels wrote: >>> Hi Haroldo, Darned if I know. I take no pleasure from the fact that others are having this problem, but it's nice to have some company. Chuck On Aug 27, 2008, at 11:28 AM, Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: >It just hapenned again, only a couple of days after trashing the >preferences. Is this a problem involving Finale and Leopard? > >Harold > > >At 10:08 -0700 27/8/08, Chuck Israels wrote: >>Hi Hiro, >> >>This seems to be system related, and I don't know what it is about my >>system that produces this behavior. I can predict, with some >>reliability, when it is going to happen, because there are early signs of >>the corruption. The first sign is that some instruments begin to play >>back at wrong transpositions. As this begins to occur, jumping back in >>the score to begin the playback at an earlier spot sometimes cures the >>problem for a while, but it eventually becomes incurable with that >>method. The next thing I do is close the file and reopen it - reloading >>the Garittan sounds in the process. Again, this works for a while. >>Then, suddenly, after entering a few notes, or changing pitches in one or >>two parts, the problem recurs and becomes persistent. >>At that point, I can be pretty sure that Finale will crash or not reopen >>after quitting, and the preferences will be corrupted. I only relate >>these details, in case there is anyone on the list who might have an idea >>what is going! >on that produces this annoying behavior. >> >>I am surprised to hear that others have experienced this, because MM >>seems not to know anything about it. >> >>Chuck >> >> >>On Aug 27, 2008, at 9:34 AM, A-NO-NE Music wrote: >> >>> >>>On 2008/08/25(åé), at å"5:21, Chuck Israels wrote: >>> I recommend making copies of the newly minted preference file and storing them somewhere handy in case this reoccurs. Then you can simply replace the troublesome corrupted file if this happens again. >>> >>> >>>It seems only few of us are getting this problem? >>> >>>I simply zip it, which makes a backup next to the original. >>>When this happens next time, I select the corrupted one, hit Cmd+Del, >>>then double-click the zipped file. I do this at least once a week :-( >>> >>> >>>-- >>>- Hiro >>> >>>Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Greater Boston >>>http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com >>> >>>___ >>>Finale mailing list >>>Finale@shsu.edu >>>http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >> >>Chuck Israels >>230 North Garden Terrace >>Bellingham, WA 98225-5836 >>phone (360) 671-3402 >>fax (360) 676-6055 >>www.chuckisraels.com >> >>___ >>Finale mailing list >>Finale@shsu.edu >>http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > >___ >Finale mailing list >Finale@shsu.edu >http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Chuck Israels 230 North Garden Terrace Bellingham, WA 98225-5836 phone
Re: [Finale] exploding bug in 2009
Christopher Smith wrote: On Aug 27, 2008, at 5:36 PM, Chuck Israels wrote: the new expression design, which I find not to be without its problems. Some things work fine, but this does not, and there are issues with linked parts and the fact that you can't assign a dynamic to a note in layer two and have it position itself in relation to that note. (Down stem bass drum notes in drum set parts, for instance.) Chuck Yes, this is a huge pain. When I assign a dynamic to a tuba part alone in Layer 1, the dynamic moves downward nicely. As soon as I have the same tuba part in Layer 2 with bass trombone in Layer 1 above it, the dynamic seems only to take the Layer 1 notes into account. Christopher Does that change if you've put the focus on layer 2 by clicking on the 2 in the lower left of the screen before assigning the dynamic? -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
