Re: [Finale] Expression Tool question

[Carl Dershem]

Dean M. Estabrook wrote:
When I want to assign an expression, say, a rit. to all staves, I 
properly get handles on them all. Now, if I want to adjust one or two

of those expressions, is there any way  to move them one at a time
rather than when one is selected, all are selected and ergo, all are
adjusted simultaneously.  This happens to be a large Band Score, and,
naturally, some of the expressions are in the way of, say, a Picc.
part. There must be a way, but I've not found it yet.

Thanks in advance,

Dean


In "expression assignment" (I think) there's a check box for "individual 
positioning."  I rough out the placement, then go back, check individual 
positioning, then fine tune.


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[Finale] Expression Tool question

[Dean M. Estabrook]

When I want to assign an expression, say, a rit. to all staves, I  
properly get handles on them all. Now, if I want to adjust one or two  
of those expressions, is there any way  to move them one at a time  
rather than when one is selected, all are selected and ergo, all are  
adjusted simultaneously.  This happens to be a large Band Score, and,  
naturally, some of the expressions are in the way of, say, a Picc.  
part. There must be a way, but I've not found it yet.


Thanks in advance,

Dean


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"When I am working on a problem, I never think about beauty. But  
when I have finished, if the solution is not beautiful, I know  
it is wrong. "


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Re: [Finale] Fin2009 Setup Wizard

[Darcy James Argue]

Hi Allen,

No, I am. I was deleting them from the Maestro Font Default, not  
Engraved Style (maestro font).


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On Oct 18, 2008, at 8:34 PM, Allen Fisher wrote:


Hey Darcy--

If I delete the text inserts from Engraved Style (maestro font) in  
the doc styles folder I don't get the arranger or subtitle field in  
new documents created with that style.


Am I missing something?


On Oct 17, 2008, at 3:30 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:


Hi all,

Unlike previous versions, the Finale 2009 Setup Wizard appears to  
automatically create "Subtitle" and "Arranger" fields even when (A)  
they don't exist in your Maestro Font Default (or whatever you are  
using for your Document Style) and (B) you don't specify them in  
the Setup Wizard.


Is there a way to prevent this?

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Re: [Finale] Fin2009 Setup Wizard

[Allen Fisher]

Hey Darcy--

If I delete the text inserts from Engraved Style (maestro font) in the  
doc styles folder I don't get the arranger or subtitle field in new  
documents created with that style.


Am I missing something?


On Oct 17, 2008, at 3:30 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:


Hi all,

Unlike previous versions, the Finale 2009 Setup Wizard appears to  
automatically create "Subtitle" and "Arranger" fields even when (A)  
they don't exist in your Maestro Font Default (or whatever you are  
using for your Document Style) and (B) you don't specify them in the  
Setup Wizard.


Is there a way to prevent this?

Cheers,

- Darcy
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Re(2): [Finale] Quarter-tone music

[Leigh Daniels]

Cool piece, Andrew!

**Leigh

On Sat, Oct 18, 2008, Andrew Stiller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>http://www.kallistimusic.com/APSblurbs.html


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RE: [Finale] Quarter-tone music

[arabushk]

His (Haba's) opera "Mother" is also very good. If you can get ahold of
Ives' quarter-tone piano pieces I'd say give them a go. Unfortunately I
don't have a workable recording of mhy own trombone sonata.

ajr

>
> Listen to the compositions (especially the string quartets) of Alois Haba.
> There is one in 1/3 tones, which I found to be extremely interesting (and
> surprisingly mellow sounding).
>
> Dr.A.S.Weinstangel
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>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> To: finale@shsu.edu
>> Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 11:59:47 -0400
>> Subject: [Finale] Quarter-tone music
>>
>>
>> timothy price
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Dennis,
>>
>>  Was wondering if you had a site where I could stream or download
>> (listen to) anything using quarter-tones?  Have never heard any music,
>> to my knowledge, composed as such.
>> What is the basic tonality? I mean, does it mater, whether it is just,
>> tempered, etc. tuning?
>> Any info would be appreciated.
>>  Any lack of sufficient anxiety now that the dam is gone? ;-)  We all
>> need motivation, you know.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> tim
>>
>> PS.  any other type of music which you have taken a liking to?
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Re: [Finale] Quarter-tone music

[Andrew Stiller]

On Oct 18, 2008, at 11:59 AM, timothy price wrote:


	Was wondering if you had a site where I could stream or download 
(listen to) anything using quarter-tones?  Have never heard any music, 
to my knowledge, composed as such.
What is the basic tonality? I mean, does it mater, whether it is just, 
tempered, etc. tuning?

Any info would be appreciated.


The tonality  is a matter of the composer's philosophy. Most of Haba's 
music is atonal. The just-intonation crew (Partch and his followers, 
such  as Johnston) usually fall on the tonal side, but though they use 
many microtones, these are derived from the harmonic series and do not, 
strictly speaking, include quarter-tones.


Some well-known, commercially recorded quarter-tone works Include Ives' 
Fourth  Symphony, his Two Quartertone Piano Pieces, and Copland's 
Vitebsk.


Me, I use equal-tempered quartertones in all kinds of ways, including 
quarter-tone "key signatures" that shift all notes up or down a quarter 
step until the signature is cancelled. In such  passages,  it  is the  
"normal" notes that sound out of tune! If you're curious to hear this, 
check out the audio excerpt of my *Chamber Symphony* sax quartet at 
http://www.kallistimusic.com/APSblurbs.html A few other audio clips on 
this same page also use quartertones, but this one is the most dramatic 
and obvious in that  way.


Andrew Stiller
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Re: [Finale] weird margin problem

[Robert Patterson]

That option makes no difference.

Ryan Beard wrote:


Robert,
Have you unchecked "Use Finale's Page Orientation Instead of the Printer's Page 
Orientation" in the "Program Options - Save and Print" dialogue? Unchecking that has 
solved a lot of printing problems for me.
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[Finale] weird margin problem

[Ryan Beard]

Robert,
Have you unchecked "Use Finale's Page Orientation Instead of the Printer's Page 
Orientation" in the "Program Options - Save and Print" dialogue? Unchecking 
that has solved a lot of printing problems for me.
Ryan
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Re: [Finale] Weird margin problem

[Robert Patterson]

Printing to PDF is how I first encountered the problem. FWIW: it appears 
to be an incompatibility between MacFin and the Xante Accel-a-Writer-4G 
driver. I set up a Generic Postscript printer and it prints correctly.


This is not a general problem with the Xante driver, since other 
programs (including, thankfully, Preview) print with no problem. This is 
a problem specific to Finale and the Xante driver.


Darcy James Argue wrote:


What happens if you print to PDF?


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Re: [Finale] Weird margin problem

[Darcy James Argue]

What happens if you print to PDF?

Cheers,

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On Oct 18, 2008, at 3:52 PM, Robert Patterson wrote:

I figured out that the problem occurs when I set the Page Setup page  
size to be 11x17 or greater. It seems to have nothing to do with how  
old the file was, nor with the contents.

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Re: [Finale] Weird margin problem

[Robert Patterson]

I figured out that the problem occurs when I set the Page Setup page 
size to be 11x17 or greater. It seems to have nothing to do with how old 
the file was, nor with the contents.


Barbara Touburg wrote:

I think I know what it was. There were multimeasure rests. I removed 
them (created fake ones) and the file printed normally.


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Re: [Finale] Weird margin problem

[Barbara Touburg]

I think I know what it was. There were multimeasure rests. I removed 
them (created fake ones) and the file printed normally.


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Re: [Finale] Weird margin problem

[Barbara Touburg]

Robert Patterson wrote:
I am trying to reprint pages from an old file originally created in 
Fin03 and later upgraded to Fin05. The pages are 11x17, but when I print 
to PDF in Finale they come out blank. If I specify "Fit to Page", the 
music appears in a tiny square in the lower right corner, so for some 
reason Finale or Leopard thinks there are huge margins on the top and 
left. (In reality, of course, there are not.)


Has anyone seen anything like this before? I only see it on these old 
files, not on newer files. I'm using Mac Leopard w/ Fin 08. (I've also 
tried Fin07 and Fin05, which have the same problem.)




Yes, I've encountered the same problem, as have others. I eventually 
found the solution and posted it here, but since then I've lost all of 
my e-mail so I can't help you now. The answer must be somewhere in the 
archive. Or maybe someone else kept the solution.


Barbara

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[Finale] Weird margin problem

[Robert Patterson]

I am trying to reprint pages from an old file originally created in 
Fin03 and later upgraded to Fin05. The pages are 11x17, but when I print 
to PDF in Finale they come out blank. If I specify "Fit to Page", the 
music appears in a tiny square in the lower right corner, so for some 
reason Finale or Leopard thinks there are huge margins on the top and 
left. (In reality, of course, there are not.)


Has anyone seen anything like this before? I only see it on these old 
files, not on newer files. I'm using Mac Leopard w/ Fin 08. (I've also 
tried Fin07 and Fin05, which have the same problem.)


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Re: [Finale] Selecting Partial Measures (Stupid Question)

[Aaron Sherber]

At 01:12 PM 10/18/2008, Neal Gittleman wrote:
>In the "old days" I was accustomed to selecting partial measures just
>by clicking and dragging the mouse.  Now the click highlights the
>entire bar

Start your click-drag outside the staff, slightly above or below it. 
The entire measure will only be selected if you click inside the bar.


>When copying music via shift-option-click, how do you get to the "old"
>dialogue that asks how many times you want to copy?

In Windows, it's Alt-Ctrl-click. Take a look in the help file under 
Copying Music in the Encyclopedia.


Aaron.

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[Finale] Selecting Partial Measures (Stupid Question)

[Neal Gittleman]

Sorry to waste your time, but I'm wasting mine

2k8 on Mac...

In the "old days" I was accustomed to selecting partial measures just  
by clicking and dragging the mouse.  Now the click highlights the  
entire bar and I can only select partial measures via the "Select  
Region..." menu, which works, but is definitely slower.  I'm sure  
there's a way to do the click-and-drag, but can't figure it out.  Any  
hints?


When copying music via shift-option-click, how do you get to the "old"  
dialogue that asks how many times you want to copy?


I guess that's 2 stupid questions

Thanks!

Neal G
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[Finale] Re: Quarter-tone music

[David Froom]

For a higher quality music listening experience than YouTube, there is  
a fabulous website with lots of American music, usually commercial- 
quality recordings.  Ives's piece for two pianos tuned in quarter  
tones is there.  The site is:


http://www.artofthestates.org

Check it out.

David Froom
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[Finale] Re: quarter-tone

[Dennis Bathory-Kitsz]

It's an interesting topic, so I've copied part of my answer to Tim here:

On Sat, October 18, 2008 12:02 pm, timothy price wrote:
> Accidently sent this to the Finale list.  :-(

You'll get answers. :)  Should I copy my answer to the list?

> Was wondering if you had a site where I could stream or download (listen
to) anything using quarter-tones?

There's always my own "Thiele", composed for & performed by Larry Read
back in the 1990s.

Download (3 mvts.):



Score:


For more famous people, there are Charles Ives's three quarter-tone piano
pieces. Here are two pretty good performances on YouTube:

1. 
2. 
3. 

> What is the basic tonality? I mean, does it mater, whether it is just,
tempered, etc. tuning?

Usually quarter-tone music is played tempered. It spans the whole range
that 12TET music does, from modernist to romantic (as you can hear in the
Ives, especially the Largo and Chorale).

[remainder personal]

Dennis


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Re: [Finale] Quarter-tone music

[Bob Morabito]

Charles Ives: 3 Quarter-Tone Pieces - I. Largo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXJPnUZhETg

There's more on that page--

Bob Morabito
On Oct 18, 2008, at 11:59 AM, timothy price wrote:



timothy price
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Hi Dennis,

	Was wondering if you had a site where I could stream or download  
(listen to) anything using quarter-tones?  Have never heard any  
music, to my knowledge, composed as such.
What is the basic tonality? I mean, does it mater, whether it is  
just, tempered, etc. tuning?

Any info would be appreciated.
	Any lack of sufficient anxiety now that the dam is gone? ;-)  We  
all need motivation, you know.


Best,

tim

PS.  any other type of music which you have taken a liking to?
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RE: [Finale] Quarter-tone music

[dr.a.s. weinstangel]

Listen to the compositions (especially the string quartets) of Alois Haba. 
There is one in 1/3 tones, which I found to be extremely interesting (and 
surprisingly mellow sounding).

Dr.A.S.Weinstangel

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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: finale@shsu.edu
> Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 11:59:47 -0400
> Subject: [Finale] Quarter-tone music
> 
> 
> timothy price
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Dennis,
>   
>   Was wondering if you had a site where I could stream or download  
> (listen to) anything using quarter-tones?  Have never heard any music,  
> to my knowledge, composed as such.
> What is the basic tonality? I mean, does it mater, whether it is just,  
> tempered, etc. tuning?
> Any info would be appreciated.
>   Any lack of sufficient anxiety now that the dam is gone? ;-)  We all  
> need motivation, you know.
> 
> Best,
> 
> tim
> 
> PS.  any other type of music which you have taken a liking to?
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[Finale] Quarter-tone music

[timothy price]

timothy price
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Hi Dennis,

	Was wondering if you had a site where I could stream or download  
(listen to) anything using quarter-tones?  Have never heard any music,  
to my knowledge, composed as such.
What is the basic tonality? I mean, does it mater, whether it is just,  
tempered, etc. tuning?

Any info would be appreciated.
	Any lack of sufficient anxiety now that the dam is gone? ;-)  We all  
need motivation, you know.


Best,

tim

PS.  any other type of music which you have taken a liking to?
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