Re: [Finale] Parts have different page size than score (Mac)

2012-01-22 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Chuck Israels wrote:

> .. Perhaps there are some conditions in which the Finale page 
> size and the printer set up should not match, but I can't think of why that 
> should be.


Besides the reason Jim Cooper mentioned, of printing booklets, there's 
another reason. If one is wishes to print a conductor's score sized 
larger than the largest size of paper one's printer can handle, the 
score must be tiled, each page of the score divided between two or more 
sheets of paper which are assembled by "analog" methods after printing.

This is not as much of an issue today as it was years ago, when 11 x 17 
printers were, if not unknown, tremendously expensive.

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Re: [Finale] Parts have different page size than score (Mac)

2012-01-22 Thread Chuck Israels
Thanks, James.  

I don't think the people at MM are thoughtless, so my first assumption is that 
there are reasons for decisions to implement things in the ways that they do 
them.  This is an example of why there are two places to control printing 
parameters.  Still, it seems that this is not the usual circumstance, so 
perhaps it would be more efficient for most users if the default didn't require 
entering the information in two places.  It's a small thing for me, but it 
might be good to have it automated that way by default and changeable in 
situations like yours.

Thanks again,

Chuck

On Jan 22, 2012, at 1:19 PM, James Cooper wrote:

> In response to the comment "Perhaps there are some conditions in which the
> Finale page size and the printer set up should not match, but I can't think
> of why that should be." -- I routinely do this for booklet printing.  I set
> the page layout to 8.5 x 11 portrait, and the printer to 11x17 landscape
> and print 2-up.  I got the procedure from Finale user manual  (
> http://www.finalemusic.com/UserManuals/Finale2011Win/Finale_Left.htm?booklet%20printing#CSHID=1|StartTopic=Content%2FFinale%2FSearch.htm|SkinName=main
> )
> 
> --- James
> 
> 
> James Cooper
> Composer, classical guitarist, songwriter
> www.ModeZ.com
> 
> 
> On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Chuck Israels  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Robert,
>> 
>> This is an annoyance up with which we have put as long as I can remember,
>> and I don't think there's a way around it.  Raymond answered a different
>> question.  It's the printing that requires the change, not the creation of
>> the different sizes within Finale, and I have long wondered why MM doesn't
>> automate this interruption of the printing process.  Perhaps there are some
>> conditions in which the Finale page size and the printer set up should not
>> match, but I can't think of why that should be.
>> 
>> Personal note:  I know you are going to be losing Susanna and Barry and
>> will be likely to miss them, but I also know that the move will be good for
>> them (and that they will miss their friends in Memphis).
>> 
>> Chuck
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 21, 2012, at 8:25 AM, Robert Patterson wrote:
>> 
>>> Is there anyway to have parts and score have different pages sizes
>> without
>>> having to go in and change the Mac printer page size to match each time
>> you
>>> print one or the other? This is a long-standing issue for me, and I
>> haven't
>>> figured out if it is possible.
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>> Portland, OR 97209-316
>> 
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Re: [Finale] Parts have different page size than score (Mac)

2012-01-22 Thread James Cooper
In response to the comment "Perhaps there are some conditions in which the
Finale page size and the printer set up should not match, but I can't think
of why that should be." -- I routinely do this for booklet printing.  I set
the page layout to 8.5 x 11 portrait, and the printer to 11x17 landscape
and print 2-up.  I got the procedure from Finale user manual  (
http://www.finalemusic.com/UserManuals/Finale2011Win/Finale_Left.htm?booklet%20printing#CSHID=1|StartTopic=Content%2FFinale%2FSearch.htm|SkinName=main
)

 --- James


James Cooper
Composer, classical guitarist, songwriter
www.ModeZ.com


On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Chuck Israels  wrote:

> Hi Robert,
>
> This is an annoyance up with which we have put as long as I can remember,
> and I don't think there's a way around it.  Raymond answered a different
> question.  It's the printing that requires the change, not the creation of
> the different sizes within Finale, and I have long wondered why MM doesn't
> automate this interruption of the printing process.  Perhaps there are some
> conditions in which the Finale page size and the printer set up should not
> match, but I can't think of why that should be.
>
> Personal note:  I know you are going to be losing Susanna and Barry and
> will be likely to miss them, but I also know that the move will be good for
> them (and that they will miss their friends in Memphis).
>
> Chuck
>
>
> On Jan 21, 2012, at 8:25 AM, Robert Patterson wrote:
>
> > Is there anyway to have parts and score have different pages sizes
> without
> > having to go in and change the Mac printer page size to match each time
> you
> > print one or the other? This is a long-standing issue for me, and I
> haven't
> > figured out if it is possible.
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> > Finale@shsu.edu
> > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
>
> Chuck Israels
> 1310 NW Naito Parkway #807
> Portland, OR 97209-316
>
> land line: (971) 255-1167
> cell phone: (360) 201-3434
>
> 
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-- 

James Cooper
Composer, classical guitarist, songwriter
www.ModeZ.com

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Re: [Finale] Parts have different page size than score (Mac)

2012-01-22 Thread Robert Patterson
One would think so, but I've never found that option to have any effect on
this issue. Indeed, I've never seen that it does anything. But I leave it
checked anyway.

On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 11:23 PM, Darcy James Argue
wrote:

> I haven't actually tried this, so I don't know whether it works, but isn't
> this problem theoretically solved by selecting the "Use Finale's Page
> Orientation instead of printer's Page Orientation" option?
>
> Cheers,
>
> - DJA
> -
> WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org
>
>
>
> On 21 Jan 2012, at 3:01 PM, Chuck Israels wrote:
>
> > Hi Robert,
> >
> > This is an annoyance up with which we have put as long as I can
> remember, and I don't think there's a way around it.  Raymond answered a
> different question.  It's the printing that requires the change, not the
> creation of the different sizes within Finale, and I have long wondered why
> MM doesn't automate this interruption of the printing process.  Perhaps
> there are some conditions in which the Finale page size and the printer set
> up should not match, but I can't think of why that should be.
> >
> > Personal note:  I know you are going to be losing Susanna and Barry and
> will be likely to miss them, but I also know that the move will be good for
> them (and that they will miss their friends in Memphis).
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> >
> > On Jan 21, 2012, at 8:25 AM, Robert Patterson wrote:
> >
> >> Is there anyway to have parts and score have different pages sizes
> without
> >> having to go in and change the Mac printer page size to match each time
> you
> >> print one or the other? This is a long-standing issue for me, and I
> haven't
> >> figured out if it is possible.
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> >
> > Chuck Israels
> > 1310 NW Naito Parkway #807
> > Portland, OR 97209-316
> >
> > land line: (971) 255-1167
> > cell phone: (360) 201-3434
> >
> > 
> > 
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