Re: [Finale] Temporarily Hide Group Bracket

[Giovanni Andreani]

Sorry for posting twice, I just reaized there was a server delay that was 
keeping my first message hanging in the air somewhere.

Giovanni




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>I need to temporarily hide a group's bracket at the beginning of a
>system while showing on the others.
>Is there any way to do so?
>
>Giovanni
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Re: [Finale] Exported Audio too loud

[Giovanni Andreani]

I had a similar problem when exporting in Fin 2012 with a slight variation 
though: after setting individual volumes for all instrument they would be all 
leveled at a default rate wich I didn't ask for. Never got to it working right: 
I had to export a midi file, import it in Logic and bump from there. I also was 
using Garritan sounds in Finale.




Giovanni Andreani

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>Hello,
>Finale 2012c.
>Exported an AIFF file. Used Garritan sounds.
>It sounds great in Finale's playback, but the audio file it exported clips
>the sound; the sound is distorted.
>I've lowered all the levels in the mixer to be at 64, thinking that might
>solve the problem. It didn't. I lowered the master volume three different
>times and that didn't work.
>The style of Human Playback doesn't seem to affect it, either.
>All the instruments are one separate staves, and they're each assigned
>their own Garritan sound; Orch Trumpet Player 1, Orch Trumpet Player 2, etc.
>Has anyone else experienced this?
>What else should I adjust?
>Thanks
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Re: [Finale] Repeats on D.C.

[Craig Parmerlee]

I see,  Then I think Price Taylor's suggestion should work.  I haven't 
actually done that, but Price's instructions match what I see in the 
documentation.  Have you tried that yet?

On 2/23/2014 8:59 PM, Ryan Beard wrote:
> There is no coda. Just a DC al fine, with both sections having 1st and 2nd 
> endings. I want the repeats in the first section to be taken in the DC.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Feb 23, 2014, at 3:43 PM, Craig Parmerlee  wrote:
>>
>> Maybe I don't understand the problem. I think the issue is that you need
>> to set the correct number in the "To Coda" marker for "Jump on pass #".
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 2/23/2014 6:15 PM, Ryan Beard wrote:
>>> Yeah of course an instruction should be there in the print. But, I'm just 
>>> concerned with getting the playback to behave how I want it.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
 On Feb 21, 2014, at 9:37 PM, Craig Parmerlee  wrote:

 That sounds confusing.  If I were reading that score I'd play all 4
 times before proceeding to the next section.

 As far as making the playback work right, that is simply a matter of
 putting in the right number for "jump on pass" at the "to coda" mark.

 The way I normally see this indicated to the musician is to add a
 parenthetical comment under the D.C. or D.S. mark saying "(Repeats good
 on DC)".  If you do it that way, there can be no confusion




> On 2/21/2014 7:20 PM, Peter Taylor wrote:
> - Original Message -
> From: "Ryan" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 11:52 PM
> Subject: [Finale] Repeats on D.C.
>
>
>> Can't figure out how to make Finale take the repeats on the D.C.
>> Yes, I understand that repeats aren't usually taken on the D.C., but I
>> want
>> it to this time.
> Sorry, that should be 1,3 in the first and 2,4 in the second.  Doh!
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Re: [Finale] Repeats on D.C.

[Ryan Beard]

There is no coda. Just a DC al fine, with both sections having 1st and 2nd 
endings. I want the repeats in the first section to be taken in the DC. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 23, 2014, at 3:43 PM, Craig Parmerlee  wrote:
> 
> Maybe I don't understand the problem. I think the issue is that you need 
> to set the correct number in the "To Coda" marker for "Jump on pass #".
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 2/23/2014 6:15 PM, Ryan Beard wrote:
>> Yeah of course an instruction should be there in the print. But, I'm just 
>> concerned with getting the playback to behave how I want it.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Feb 21, 2014, at 9:37 PM, Craig Parmerlee  wrote:
>>> 
>>> That sounds confusing.  If I were reading that score I'd play all 4
>>> times before proceeding to the next section.
>>> 
>>> As far as making the playback work right, that is simply a matter of
>>> putting in the right number for "jump on pass" at the "to coda" mark.
>>> 
>>> The way I normally see this indicated to the musician is to add a
>>> parenthetical comment under the D.C. or D.S. mark saying "(Repeats good
>>> on DC)".  If you do it that way, there can be no confusion
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 2/21/2014 7:20 PM, Peter Taylor wrote:
 - Original Message -
 From: "Ryan" 
 To: 
 Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 11:52 PM
 Subject: [Finale] Repeats on D.C.
 
 
> Can't figure out how to make Finale take the repeats on the D.C.
> Yes, I understand that repeats aren't usually taken on the D.C., but I
> want
> it to this time.
 Sorry, that should be 1,3 in the first and 2,4 in the second.  Doh!
 
 
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Re: [Finale] Beating my head against the wall on repeats

[dershem]

On 2/23/2014 5:44 PM, Craig Parmerlee wrote:
> Well, there are trade-offs, of course. For jazz band charts, I like to
> keep the parts to 2 pages for horns and drums, 3 for bass, and no more
> than 4 for piano.  But I never  do a DS or DC that will go back more
> than one page.
>
> If there are good opportunities for page turns, I don't mind going to 4
> pages (both sides of an 11x17 sheet).
>
> Of course there are extended works that would never fit in that space,
> but for your normal 3-5 minute charts, I think those are reasonable
> limits.  I do agree with you that the road map can be the source of
> train wrecks for a band playing a lot of charts they aren't really
> familiar with, so I will thru-compose as long as I can live within the
> above limits.
>
> But DS and DC need not be fatal problems.  I always try to have any
> signs begin on a new staff, such that I can hang the segno mark out into
> the margin a little for quick visual reference.  And codas are ALWAYS on
> a new line, always indented.  And if page layout permits, I add a little
> vertical space above the coda.  if you do those things, the performance
> usually goes smoothly.

Agreed.  And there are places where you want repeats  (in Big Band and 
jazz stuff, at least), open solo sections being the most obvious.

If you do your page layouts carefully, roadmapping is not only easier, 
but can almost be obvious.  Of course, if the composer is sloppy or 
bizarre, this can be very difficult, but most of the time, it's not all 
that difficult.

[That said, the one I'm doing right now came with the originals marked 
"D.S. al Coda", and there was no coda.  Some composers should get 
smacked upside the head.]

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Re: [Finale] Beating my head against the wall on repeats

[Craig Parmerlee]

Well, there are trade-offs, of course. For jazz band charts, I like to 
keep the parts to 2 pages for horns and drums, 3 for bass, and no more 
than 4 for piano.  But I never  do a DS or DC that will go back more 
than one page.

If there are good opportunities for page turns, I don't mind going to 4 
pages (both sides of an 11x17 sheet).

Of course there are extended works that would never fit in that space, 
but for your normal 3-5 minute charts, I think those are reasonable 
limits.  I do agree with you that the road map can be the source of 
train wrecks for a band playing a lot of charts they aren't really 
familiar with, so I will thru-compose as long as I can live within the 
above limits.

But DS and DC need not be fatal problems.  I always try to have any 
signs begin on a new staff, such that I can hang the segno mark out into 
the margin a little for quick visual reference.  And codas are ALWAYS on 
a new line, always indented.  And if page layout permits, I add a little 
vertical space above the coda.  if you do those things, the performance 
usually goes smoothly.



On 2/23/2014 8:15 PM, Patrick Sheehan wrote:
> ...and that's why we should always avoid repeats.  Roadmaps suck.  Written
> out beginning to end poses no problems (!)
>
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Re: [Finale] Beating my head against the wall on repeats

[Patrick Sheehan]

...and that's why we should always avoid repeats.  Roadmaps suck.  Written
out beginning to end poses no problems (!)


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Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 10:57 PM
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Subject: [Finale] Beating my head against the wall on repeats

I have a problem I just can't figure out.  I am using F2014, but it 
might be the same in earlier releases.

My problem is my score has Sign ... To Coda ... D.S. al coda ... Coda.

As far as I can tell, all 4 of those marks have exactly the same 
settings (Show on top staff only).  The only difference I can see is 
that the Sign and the Coda symbols are just markers whereas the other 
two are jumps.  The playback works perfectly.

My problem is that when I lay out parts, I need to move those items 
around a little in the individual parts.  I can move three of them 
freely on every single part.  But I cannot move the "To Coda" at all on 
most of the parts.  I can select it and the item changes color, but I 
just can't move it -- and I really must move it because it is landing 
right on top of a MM rest in most parts.

The pattern is that I can move "To Coda" ONLY on the parts that are the 
first in a staff group.  If a part is not in a staff group or is the top 
staff in a group, then I can move "To Coda".  But I can move the other 
three in all parts.

I have tried unlinking the symbols.  No difference.  I have tried "Allow 
individual edits per staff" which really seemed like it should work.  No 
good.   I can't think of anything else to try.

Anybody have ideas?  Has anybody else experienced this problem?





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Re: [Finale] Delivery delayed

[Craig Parmerlee]

Something seems to be messed up.  I have received that several times in 
the past 36 hours.  The messages eventually went through, after about 24 
hours.


On 2/23/2014 2:21 PM, Ryan wrote:
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Re: [Finale] Repeats on D.C.

[Craig Parmerlee]

Maybe I don't understand the problem. I think the issue is that you need 
to set the correct number in the "To Coda" marker for "Jump on pass #".




On 2/23/2014 6:15 PM, Ryan Beard wrote:
> Yeah of course an instruction should be there in the print. But, I'm just 
> concerned with getting the playback to behave how I want it.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Feb 21, 2014, at 9:37 PM, Craig Parmerlee  wrote:
>>
>> That sounds confusing.  If I were reading that score I'd play all 4
>> times before proceeding to the next section.
>>
>> As far as making the playback work right, that is simply a matter of
>> putting in the right number for "jump on pass" at the "to coda" mark.
>>
>> The way I normally see this indicated to the musician is to add a
>> parenthetical comment under the D.C. or D.S. mark saying "(Repeats good
>> on DC)".  If you do it that way, there can be no confusion
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 2/21/2014 7:20 PM, Peter Taylor wrote:
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Ryan" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 11:52 PM
>>> Subject: [Finale] Repeats on D.C.
>>>
>>>
 Can't figure out how to make Finale take the repeats on the D.C.
 Yes, I understand that repeats aren't usually taken on the D.C., but I
 want
 it to this time.
>>> Sorry, that should be 1,3 in the first and 2,4 in the second.  Doh!
>>>
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Re: [Finale] Repeats on D.C.

[Ryan Beard]

Yeah of course an instruction should be there in the print. But, I'm just 
concerned with getting the playback to behave how I want it. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 21, 2014, at 9:37 PM, Craig Parmerlee  wrote:
> 
> That sounds confusing.  If I were reading that score I'd play all 4 
> times before proceeding to the next section.
> 
> As far as making the playback work right, that is simply a matter of 
> putting in the right number for "jump on pass" at the "to coda" mark.
> 
> The way I normally see this indicated to the musician is to add a 
> parenthetical comment under the D.C. or D.S. mark saying "(Repeats good 
> on DC)".  If you do it that way, there can be no confusion
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 2/21/2014 7:20 PM, Peter Taylor wrote:
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Ryan" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 11:52 PM
>> Subject: [Finale] Repeats on D.C.
>> 
>> 
>>> Can't figure out how to make Finale take the repeats on the D.C.
>>> Yes, I understand that repeats aren't usually taken on the D.C., but I
>>> want
>>> it to this time.
>> Sorry, that should be 1,3 in the first and 2,4 in the second.  Doh!
>> 
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Re: [Finale] Repeats on D.C.

[Ryan Beard]

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 21, 2014, at 9:37 PM, Craig Parmerlee  wrote:
> 
> That sounds confusing.  If I were reading that score I'd play all 4 
> times before proceeding to the next section.
> 
> As far as making the playback work right, that is simply a matter of 
> putting in the right number for "jump on pass" at the "to coda" mark.
> 
> The way I normally see this indicated to the musician is to add a 
> parenthetical comment under the D.C. or D.S. mark saying "(Repeats good 
> on DC)".  If you do it that way, there can be no confusion
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 2/21/2014 7:20 PM, Peter Taylor wrote:
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Ryan" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 11:52 PM
>> Subject: [Finale] Repeats on D.C.
>> 
>> 
>>> Can't figure out how to make Finale take the repeats on the D.C.
>>> Yes, I understand that repeats aren't usually taken on the D.C., but I
>>> want
>>> it to this time.
>> Sorry, that should be 1,3 in the first and 2,4 in the second.  Doh!
>> 
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[Finale] Temporarily Hide Group Bracket

[Giovanni Andreani]

I need to temporarily hide a group's bracket at the beginning of a system while 
showing on the others.
Is there any way to do so?

Giovanni




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[Finale] Fwd: Delivery delayed:Exported Audio too loud

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[Finale] JW Change, version 1.00

[Jari Williamsson]

Hello!

JW Change, version 1.00 is now available for download. Thanks to all who 
have given me feedback during the beta phase!

Windows download link:
http://finaletips.nu/index.php/download/category/9-plug-ins-for-windows

Mac download link:
http://finaletips.nu/index.php/download/category/10-plug-ins-for-mac


Here's the YouTube introduction of the basic feature set, in case you 
missed it earlier this week:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fhzcqvr_INE&hd=1


Best regards,

Jari Williamsson


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[Finale] Temporarily Hide Group Bracket

[Giovanni Andreani]

I need to temporarily hide a group's bracket at the beginning of a system while 
showing on the others.
Is there any way to do so?

Giovanni




Giovanni Andreani

www.giovanniandreani.eu




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[Finale] Fwd: [TGTools] TGTools 2.71 for Finale 2010-2014 available (Windows and Macintosh)

[Howey, Henry]

Henry Howey

Sent from my iWhatever

Begin forwarded message:

From: mailto:tobias_subscri...@tgtools.com>>
Date: February 23, 2014 at 10:05:58 CST
To: mailto:tgto...@yahoogroups.com>>
Subject: [TGTools] TGTools 2.71 for Finale 2010-2014 available (Windows and 
Macintosh)




Hello,

this is just a quick note that finally, TGTools have been updated to work with 
the latest Finale versions. You will find version 2.71 on our web site, as a 
free update if you have an older v2 license. The TGTools features should 
basically all work, although some may no longer apply to recent Finale versions.

I am also planning a more dedicated upgrade to use the latest data structures 
and add some features. This will be TGTools 3.0 and it is planned as a payed 
upgrade.

Kind Regards,
Tobias Giesen

Super Flexible Software Ltd. & Co. KG
Buddenstr. 29-31
48143 Münster, Germany
www.superflexible.com
www.tgtools.com

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Re: [Finale] Repeats on D.C.

[Craig Parmerlee]

That sounds confusing.  If I were reading that score I'd play all 4 
times before proceeding to the next section.

As far as making the playback work right, that is simply a matter of 
putting in the right number for "jump on pass" at the "to coda" mark.

The way I normally see this indicated to the musician is to add a 
parenthetical comment under the D.C. or D.S. mark saying "(Repeats good 
on DC)".  If you do it that way, there can be no confusion




On 2/21/2014 7:20 PM, Peter Taylor wrote:
> - Original Message -
> From: "Ryan" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 11:52 PM
> Subject: [Finale] Repeats on D.C.
>
>
>> Can't figure out how to make Finale take the repeats on the D.C.
>> Yes, I understand that repeats aren't usually taken on the D.C., but I
>> want
>> it to this time.
> Sorry, that should be 1,3 in the first and 2,4 in the second.  Doh!
>
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[Finale] Exported Audio too loud

[Ryan]

Hello,
Finale 2012c.
Exported an AIFF file. Used Garritan sounds.
It sounds great in Finale's playback, but the audio file it exported clips
the sound; the sound is distorted.
I've lowered all the levels in the mixer to be at 64, thinking that might
solve the problem. It didn't. I lowered the master volume three different
times and that didn't work.
The style of Human Playback doesn't seem to affect it, either.
All the instruments are one separate staves, and they're each assigned
their own Garritan sound; Orch Trumpet Player 1, Orch Trumpet Player 2, etc.
Has anyone else experienced this?
What else should I adjust?
Thanks
Ryan
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[Finale] DS al Fin

[John Witmer]

How do you make a Finale playback actually stop at the Fine in a DS al Fin with 
an embedded repeat?
Finale wants to keep right on playing after the going back to the signe and 
getting to the Fine.
John Witmer
Clemson Downs Retirement Center
Clemson, SC
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Re: [Finale] Repeats on D.C.

[Craig Parmerlee]

That sounds confusing.  If I were reading that score I'd play all 4 
times before proceeding to the next section.

As far as making the playback work right, that is simply a matter of 
putting in the right number for "jump on pass" at the "to coda" mark.

The way I normally see this indicated to the musician is to add a 
parenthetical comment under the D.C. or D.S. mark saying "(Repeats good 
on DC)".  If you do it that way, there can be no confusion.


On 2/21/2014 7:17 PM, Peter Taylor wrote:
> - Original Message -
> From: "Ryan" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 11:52 PM
> Subject: [Finale] Repeats on D.C.
>
>
>> Can't figure out how to make Finale take the repeats on the D.C.
>> Yes, I understand that repeats aren't usually taken on the D.C., but I
>> want
>> it to this time.
> Type "1,2" in the Alternate Text box for the first bracket and "2,4" for the
> second
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Re: [Finale] Exported Audio too loud

[Ryan]

I think I've figured it out. I had a reverb setting active. I turned it off
and the exported file is no longer distorted.
But, I'd still be interested in hearing your solutions in case there's a
better solution!


On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 10:30 PM, Ryan  wrote:

> Hello,
> Finale 2012c.
> Exported an AIFF file. Used Garritan sounds.
> It sounds great in Finale's playback, but the audio file it exported clips
> the sound; the sound is distorted.
> I've lowered all the levels in the mixer to be at 64, thinking that might
> solve the problem. It didn't. I lowered the master volume three different
> times and that didn't work.
> The style of Human Playback doesn't seem to affect it, either.
> All the instruments are one separate staves, and they're each assigned
> their own Garritan sound; Orch Trumpet Player 1, Orch Trumpet Player 2, etc.
> Has anyone else experienced this?
> What else should I adjust?
> Thanks
> Ryan
>
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