Re: [Finale] Part prints at 1/16 size of page
On Wed, 5 Aug 2015 19:29:51, Michael Lawlormjlaw...@virginmedia.comwrote: [Finale 2009] I have just created a score and extracted the parts; they all print okay except one part, which only fills about 1/16 of the page (i.e. A8 instead of A4). I have tried printing directly from Finale and printing to PDF; I have checked page sizes for the part within Finale page layout tool, the settings for the printer and PDF generator and they all specify A4. What have I missed? [Finale 2014] I have had similar problems on my laptop with a Samsung ML 3310 ND laser printer and my wife has had them on her static PC. I haven't solved them, but they look to me like printer driver problems, since they occur with several application programs on two different computers, and have arisen only since we moved from Windows XP to 8.1. Ken Moore ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] RESIZE TIME SIGNATURES
create 1 or more dedicated staves, resize them in page view to 200% (after final layout is done, this gets undone easily) optionally only have the time sigs showing on the time sig staves in order to reduce white space at the start of the measure: - set a negative value to start of measure width to have the time sigs straddle the barline (*) - apply staff style to all instruments hide time sigs -- in SC only unfortunately there still is no way exceot a white graphic to hide the left barline of the uppoermost staff, if this is where one of your time sig staves are. *) this causes some weirdness for the precise positioning of expressions so do this at the very end; also apply music spacing to the entire document after doing so. I used to know how to create nice, big time signatures for my scores, but now can't remember how. Please help! BTW, after all these years I am still not sure: What - from your experience - is faster: a) Enter fl.1, fl.2 etc on separate staves and then implode them for the final version of the score, or b) Enter them as voice 1, voice 2, and then explode for part extraction, or c) Use some other, much better, tactical approach? -- NEW RELEASE!!! neueweise -- fonts for new music and traditional notation http://newmusicnotation.com/fonts shirling neueweise | http://newmusicnotation.com new music notation + translation + arts management [FB] http://facebook.com/neueweise | [TW] http://twitter.com/neueweise ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] RESIZE TIME SIGNATURES
I recently needed to create a score with BIG time signatures but ordinary sized time sigs on the linked parts. The key technique I used to use the font 'Time (score)' at 60pt, adjusting the 'Document optionsTime signaturesTop and bottom symbols appropriately and then using a staff style to hide the big signatures in the staves where you don't want the big sig to display. This approach works fine on WinFinale2014. It's much simpler than it sounds! If you want more information, let me know and I'll send you some more detailed notes with screengrabs. Michael -Original Message- From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of dr.a.s. weinstangel Sent: 06 August 2015 03:48 To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: [Finale] RESIZE TIME SIGNATURES I used to know how to create nice, big time signatures for my scores, but now can't remember how. Please help! BTW, after all these years I am still not sure: What - from your experience - is faster: a) Enter fl.1, fl.2 etc on separate staves and then implode them for the final version of the score, or b) Enter them as voice 1, voice 2, and then explode for part extraction, or c) Use some other, much better, tactical approach? TIA! Sasha Weinstangel Dr.A.S.Weinstangel sasha.weinstan...@utoronto.ca cel.647-292-4605 ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Part prints at 1/16 size of page
Very interesting. I had something similar happen a couple of times. I always print my Finale material to PDF using PDFCreator. I never print directly from Finale. There were a couple of times where one part out of 20 was super small in the PDF. If I would run it a second time, it always came out correctly, so I never picked up the pattern. I had always assumed it was a quirk in PDFCreator, but now it seems that it was actually a Finale bug. On a separate note, I have started compiling a list of the most annoying bugs in Finale in the hopes that maybe these will be addressed in 2014.5. At first, I was intending to offer a top-10 list for consideration, but since I have been writing these down, there are way more than 10 really annoying bugs. Yesterday I was working with lyrics which is almost completely dysfunctional in F2014. For example, if you enter I a a word in a lyrical line, the cursor jumps backwards two syllables and messes everything up. And there are several other really bad bugs in lyrics. Has anyone else compiled such a list? Maybe I will share mine once I have it organized. On 8/6/2015 12:59 PM, Williams, Jim wrote: If my memory doesn't fail, the problem is somehow connected to printing when an auto-save is occurring. If you are going to mass-print, you might consider turning off auto-save, closing/relaunching, then printing. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Bach Chaconne in Finale
Replied off list. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 6, 2015, at 3:59 PM, Robert Patterson rob...@robertgpatterson.com wrote: I find I have to enter the Bach Chaconne into Finale. It don't suppose any of you kind people has already done it and would share...? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
[Finale] Bach Chaconne in Finale
I find I have to enter the Bach Chaconne into Finale. It don't suppose any of you kind people has already done it and would share...? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] RESIZE TIME SIGNATURES
Thank you, thank you all for your kind help! What an invaluable source of information and comfort this group has become! Sasha sasha.weinstan...@utoronto.ca cel.647-292-4605 On Aug 6, 2015, at 5:59 AM, Michael Withers mich...@michaelwithers.co.uk wrote: I recently needed to create a score with BIG time signatures but ordinary sized time sigs on the linked parts. The key technique I used to use the font 'Time (score)' at 60pt, adjusting the 'Document optionsTime signaturesTop and bottom symbols appropriately and then using a staff style to hide the big signatures in the staves where you don't want the big sig to display. This approach works fine on WinFinale2014. It's much simpler than it sounds! If you want more information, let me know and I'll send you some more detailed notes with screengrabs. Michael -Original Message- From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of dr.a.s. weinstangel Sent: 06 August 2015 03:48 To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: [Finale] RESIZE TIME SIGNATURES I used to know how to create nice, big time signatures for my scores, but now can't remember how. Please help! BTW, after all these years I am still not sure: What - from your experience - is faster: a) Enter fl.1, fl.2 etc on separate staves and then implode them for the final version of the score, or b) Enter them as voice 1, voice 2, and then explode for part extraction, or c) Use some other, much better, tactical approach? TIA! Sasha Weinstangel Dr.A.S.Weinstangel sasha.weinstan...@utoronto.ca cel.647-292-4605 ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Part prints at 1/16 size of page
This bug plagued me very often when I was using FinWin 2007. I recall printing to CutePdf to get by it. It still crops up occasionally in subsequent versions including FinWin 2014. Only a select few of us have had it happen! I will remember Jim Williams's suggestion now. Before that, there was some discussion to the effect that clearing and redoing multimeasure rests helped. I have done this and it seemed to help, but if Jim is right, it could have been timing that made the difference. On Aug 6, 2015 12:59 PM, Williams, Jim jwilli...@franklincollege.edu wrote: If my memory doesn't fail, the problem is somehow connected to printing when an auto-save is occurring. If you are going to mass-print, you might consider turning off auto-save, closing/relaunching, then printing. Sent from my iPad, so pardon the typos. On Aug 6, 2015, at 12:47 PM, Kenneth Moore k...@mooremusic.org.uk wrote: On Wed, 5 Aug 2015 19:29:51, Michael Lawlormjlaw...@virginmedia.comwrote: [Finale 2009] I have just created a score and extracted the parts; they all print okay except one part, which only fills about 1/16 of the page (i.e. A8 instead of A4). I have tried printing directly from Finale and printing to PDF; I have checked page sizes for the part within Finale page layout tool, the settings for the printer and PDF generator and they all specify A4. What have I missed? [Finale 2014] I have had similar problems on my laptop with a Samsung ML 3310 ND laser printer and my wife has had them on her static PC. I haven't solved them, but they look to me like printer driver problems, since they occur with several application programs on two different computers, and have arisen only since we moved from Windows XP to 8.1. Ken Moore ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Part prints at 1/16 size of page
If my memory doesn't fail, the problem is somehow connected to printing when an auto-save is occurring. If you are going to mass-print, you might consider turning off auto-save, closing/relaunching, then printing. Sent from my iPad, so pardon the typos. On Aug 6, 2015, at 12:47 PM, Kenneth Moore k...@mooremusic.org.uk wrote: On Wed, 5 Aug 2015 19:29:51, Michael Lawlormjlaw...@virginmedia.comwrote: [Finale 2009] I have just created a score and extracted the parts; they all print okay except one part, which only fills about 1/16 of the page (i.e. A8 instead of A4). I have tried printing directly from Finale and printing to PDF; I have checked page sizes for the part within Finale page layout tool, the settings for the printer and PDF generator and they all specify A4. What have I missed? [Finale 2014] I have had similar problems on my laptop with a Samsung ML 3310 ND laser printer and my wife has had them on her static PC. I haven't solved them, but they look to me like printer driver problems, since they occur with several application programs on two different computers, and have arisen only since we moved from Windows XP to 8.1. Ken Moore ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] RESIZE TIME SIGNATURES
unfortunately there still is no way exceot a white graphic to hide the left barline of the uppoermost staff, if this is where one of your time sig staves are. Yes, there is: Don't create the dedicated time sig staff as uppermost staff, but as second staff. Then set Document Options - Time Signatures - Vertical Adjustment - Score - Top/Bottom Symbol to the appropriate value that the time signatures appear on top of the score. See attached screenshot. Jan Angermueller ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] RESIZE TIME SIGNATURES
that's true, i consciously forgot about that possibility in earlier versions after fighting with the positioning, things attached to the wrong (hidden) staff, but actually no reason not to just do it last, even back then :-) thanks! Don't create the dedicated time sig staff as uppermost staff, but as second staff. Then set Document Options - Time Signatures - Vertical Adjustment - Score - Top/Bottom Symbol to the appropriate value that the time signatures appear on top of the score. -- NEW RELEASE!!! neueweise -- fonts for new music and traditional notation http://newmusicnotation.com/fonts shirling neueweise | http://newmusicnotation.com new music notation + translation + arts management [FB] http://facebook.com/neueweise | [TW] http://twitter.com/neueweise ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] RESIZE TIME SIGNATURES
I am having an interesting time with spacing: this is in connection with a project to make a video of trombone section parts from the Wagner Ring cycle. I have created a score and all the parts for this project, but my colleagues [actually my trombone students] complain about illegible parts. Finale [WinFin2014] has packed measures very close [TOO close] and the only way I have found to clean it up has been to set Finale to Speedy Entry and go through large sections of the parts and finish by putting the cursor away from the staff. It is workable but time-consuming and kludgy. Any ideas how I can clean things up a bit more elegantly? Phil Brink College of Music Mahidol University On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 6:34 PM, dr.a.s. weinstangel dr...@hotmail.com wrote: Thank you, thank you all for your kind help! What an invaluable source of information and comfort this group has become! Sasha sasha.weinstan...@utoronto.ca cel.647-292-4605 On Aug 6, 2015, at 5:59 AM, Michael Withers mich...@michaelwithers.co.uk wrote: I recently needed to create a score with BIG time signatures but ordinary sized time sigs on the linked parts. The key technique I used to use the font 'Time (score)' at 60pt, adjusting the 'Document optionsTime signaturesTop and bottom symbols appropriately and then using a staff style to hide the big signatures in the staves where you don't want the big sig to display. This approach works fine on WinFinale2014. It's much simpler than it sounds! If you want more information, let me know and I'll send you some more detailed notes with screengrabs. Michael -Original Message- From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of dr.a.s. weinstangel Sent: 06 August 2015 03:48 To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: [Finale] RESIZE TIME SIGNATURES I used to know how to create nice, big time signatures for my scores, but now can't remember how. Please help! BTW, after all these years I am still not sure: What - from your experience - is faster: a) Enter fl.1, fl.2 etc on separate staves and then implode them for the final version of the score, or b) Enter them as voice 1, voice 2, and then explode for part extraction, or c) Use some other, much better, tactical approach? TIA! Sasha Weinstangel Dr.A.S.Weinstangel sasha.weinstan...@utoronto.ca cel.647-292-4605 ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu -- Philip Brink Instructor of Trombone College of Music, Mahidol University 25/25 Phutthamonthon Sai 4 Salaya, Nakhonpathom 73170 Thailand ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] RESIZE TIME SIGNATURES
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Re: [Finale] RESIZE TIME SIGNATURES
Also Ctrl--A Ctrl--M Remove system locks Dr.A.S.Weinstangel sasha.weinstan...@utoronto.ca cel.647-292-4605 Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2015 21:58:06 +0700 From: basst...@gmail.com To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] RESIZE TIME SIGNATURES I am having an interesting time with spacing: this is in connection with a project to make a video of trombone section parts from the Wagner Ring cycle. I have created a score and all the parts for this project, but my colleagues [actually my trombone students] complain about illegible parts. Finale [WinFin2014] has packed measures very close [TOO close] and the only way I have found to clean it up has been to set Finale to Speedy Entry and go through large sections of the parts and finish by putting the cursor away from the staff. It is workable but time-consuming and kludgy. Any ideas how I can clean things up a bit more elegantly? Phil Brink College of Music Mahidol University On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 6:34 PM, dr.a.s. weinstangel dr...@hotmail.com wrote: Thank you, thank you all for your kind help! What an invaluable source of information and comfort this group has become! Sasha sasha.weinstan...@utoronto.ca cel.647-292-4605 On Aug 6, 2015, at 5:59 AM, Michael Withers mich...@michaelwithers.co.uk wrote: I recently needed to create a score with BIG time signatures but ordinary sized time sigs on the linked parts. The key technique I used to use the font 'Time (score)' at 60pt, adjusting the 'Document optionsTime signaturesTop and bottom symbols appropriately and then using a staff style to hide the big signatures in the staves where you don't want the big sig to display. This approach works fine on WinFinale2014. It's much simpler than it sounds! If you want more information, let me know and I'll send you some more detailed notes with screengrabs. Michael -Original Message- From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of dr.a.s. weinstangel Sent: 06 August 2015 03:48 To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: [Finale] RESIZE TIME SIGNATURES I used to know how to create nice, big time signatures for my scores, but now can't remember how. Please help! BTW, after all these years I am still not sure: What - from your experience - is faster: a) Enter fl.1, fl.2 etc on separate staves and then implode them for the final version of the score, or b) Enter them as voice 1, voice 2, and then explode for part extraction, or c) Use some other, much better, tactical approach? TIA! Sasha Weinstangel Dr.A.S.Weinstangel sasha.weinstan...@utoronto.ca cel.647-292-4605 ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu -- Philip Brink Instructor of Trombone College of Music, Mahidol University 25/25 Phutthamonthon Sai 4 Salaya, Nakhonpathom 73170 Thailand ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
