Re: [Finale] Always skip first ending

[Peter Taylor]

I'm not up with recent versions, but in Fin 2005 and 2007 there is indeed an 
option in the endings dialog of "Go to measure #".  Do you not have it?  But 
anyway, it's very easy to create it if MakeMusic don't include it in the 
modern default files.

Peter


- Original Message - 
From: "David H. Bailey" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 12:13 AM
Subject: Re: [Finale] Always skip first ending


>
> Thank you, Lawrence and Gerald.  I had fun trying to figure out how to
> solve the problem.
>
> But even though my workaround is easy enough to accomplish, it certainly
> begs the question of why MakeMusic haven't built into the endings
> dialogs the option "Ignore this ending - jump to measure #[target 
> measure]."
>
> I hope the MakeMusic people who monitor this list take this under
> advisement.
>
> The problem of using the "ignore repeats" in the Playback is that
> sometimes, as in this situation of Robert's, perhaps there is one first
> ending that should be ignored on playback but others that need to be 
> taken.
>
> My solution solves that problem but it's a bother and should be an
> option in the repeat dialog.
>
> Thanks,
> David H. Bailey
>
>
>
> > On 1/12/2016 6:49 PM, Lawrence Yates wrote:
>> Excellent - thank you!
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Lawrence
>>
>> On 12 January 2016 at 23:35, GERALD BERG  wrote:
>>
>>> Brilliant David! GJB
>>>
>>>
>>>From: David H. Bailey 
>>>   To: finale@shsu.edu
>>>   Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 6:05 PM
>>>   Subject: Re: [Finale] Always skip first ending
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1/12/2016 1:05 PM, Robert Patterson wrote:
 Is there away to set an ending always to be skipped? I have an optional
>>> 1st
 ending that I never want to hear in playback, regardless of "Ignore
 Repeats" settings. The option to skip the ending is not jumping out at
>>> me.
>>>
>>> I don't see any easy way, but the workaround I've found isn't too 
>>> onerous:
>>> 1) in the repeat tool duplicate the D.S. al Fine instruction and edit
>>> the font to be hidden.
>>> 2) select this new hidden D.S. al Fine in the repeat tool and set the
>>> target measure number to be the start of the 2nd ending.
>>>
>>> This worked in my short 3 measure example so I see no reason why it
>>> shouldn't work for you in a more major piece.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
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Re: [Finale] Weird Playback issue in Fin14

[Christopher Smith]

Could it be that the violin patch on that staff is not the KS type (keyswitch) 
which responds to HP commands like “pizz”? Check it in the Score Manager, and 
load the correct one if necessary.

I have heard (though not experienced) that sometimes the pizz marking does not 
register because it was accidentally attached to the wrong staff, or that it is 
attached AFTER the first note, or too close to it. This last one was resolved 
by putting the pizz mark on beat 1, while the first pizz note was beat 2. I 
don’t know why that would be an issue, but I am just reporting what I heard.

Christopher


> On Wed Jan 13, at WednesdayJan 13 11:40 PM, Robert Patterson 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have a file in which the violins refuse to play pizz (in Human Playback)
> but the other strings do play pizz using the same expression. Anyone seen
> this before?
> 
> Other files do not have this problem.
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[Finale] My lone appearances on "Music Makes a City - Now"

[Raymond Horton]

This will be my only appearances on this series. (I am on medical leave
this year, and will retire at the end of the season.) There are shots of me
in the trombone section throughout, one shot of just me at about two
minutes in.  For some reason we are constantly identified as the whole
orchestra, even though it's obviously only the brass and percussion
section. Maestro Abrams' new piece is interesting, makes much use of 11/16
time.

http://www.pbs.org/video/2365639123/

Raymond Horton
Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra
Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC
Composer, Arranger
VISIT US AT rayhortonmusic.com
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[Finale] Weird Playback issue in Fin14

[Robert Patterson]

I have a file in which the violins refuse to play pizz (in Human Playback)
but the other strings do play pizz using the same expression. Anyone seen
this before?

Other files do not have this problem.
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Re: [Finale] Always skip first ending

[David H. Bailey]

In the current versions of Finale, that "Go To Measure#" is only
effective once the first ending is played -- it does not prevent the
first ending from being played as Robert asked for help with in the
original message.

As I recall that has always worked that way -- it's for defining which
measure the repeat should go back to or jump forward to, but only after
the first ending has been played.

David H. Bailey

On 1/13/2016 8:13 AM, Peter Taylor wrote:
> I'm not up with recent versions, but in Fin 2005 and 2007 there is indeed an
> option in the endings dialog of "Go to measure #".  Do you not have it?  But
> anyway, it's very easy to create it if MakeMusic don't include it in the
> modern default files.
>
> Peter
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "David H. Bailey" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 12:13 AM
> Subject: Re: [Finale] Always skip first ending
>
>
>>
>> Thank you, Lawrence and Gerald.  I had fun trying to figure out how to
>> solve the problem.
>>
>> But even though my workaround is easy enough to accomplish, it certainly
>> begs the question of why MakeMusic haven't built into the endings
>> dialogs the option "Ignore this ending - jump to measure #[target
>> measure]."
>>
>> I hope the MakeMusic people who monitor this list take this under
>> advisement.
>>
>> The problem of using the "ignore repeats" in the Playback is that
>> sometimes, as in this situation of Robert's, perhaps there is one first
>> ending that should be ignored on playback but others that need to be
>> taken.
>>
>> My solution solves that problem but it's a bother and should be an
>> option in the repeat dialog.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> David H. Bailey
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 1/12/2016 6:49 PM, Lawrence Yates wrote:
>>> Excellent - thank you!
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Lawrence
>>>
>>> On 12 January 2016 at 23:35, GERALD BERG  wrote:
>>>
 Brilliant David! GJB


 From: David H. Bailey 
To: finale@shsu.edu
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 6:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Finale] Always skip first ending


 On 1/12/2016 1:05 PM, Robert Patterson wrote:
> Is there away to set an ending always to be skipped? I have an optional
 1st
> ending that I never want to hear in playback, regardless of "Ignore
> Repeats" settings. The option to skip the ending is not jumping out at
 me.

 I don't see any easy way, but the workaround I've found isn't too
 onerous:
 1) in the repeat tool duplicate the D.S. al Fine instruction and edit
 the font to be hidden.
 2) select this new hidden D.S. al Fine in the repeat tool and set the
 target measure number to be the start of the 2nd ending.

 This worked in my short 3 measure example so I see no reason why it
 shouldn't work for you in a more major piece.


 --
 David H. Bailey
 dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com
 http://www.davidbaileymusicstudio.com




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Re: [Finale] Always skip first ending

[Robert Patterson]

David,

At your quite helpful suggestion, I went back and looked at the text
repeats. Go Measure # works for me, so long as it is in the bar preceding
the first ending.

R


On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 9:58 AM, David H. Bailey 
wrote:

>
> In the current versions of Finale, that "Go To Measure#" is only
> effective once the first ending is played -- it does not prevent the
> first ending from being played as Robert asked for help with in the
> original message.
>
> As I recall that has always worked that way -- it's for defining which
> measure the repeat should go back to or jump forward to, but only after
> the first ending has been played.
>
> David H. Bailey
>
> On 1/13/2016 8:13 AM, Peter Taylor wrote:
> > I'm not up with recent versions, but in Fin 2005 and 2007 there is
> indeed an
> > option in the endings dialog of "Go to measure #".  Do you not have it?
> But
> > anyway, it's very easy to create it if MakeMusic don't include it in the
> > modern default files.
> >
> > Peter
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "David H. Bailey" 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 12:13 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Finale] Always skip first ending
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Thank you, Lawrence and Gerald.  I had fun trying to figure out how to
> >> solve the problem.
> >>
> >> But even though my workaround is easy enough to accomplish, it certainly
> >> begs the question of why MakeMusic haven't built into the endings
> >> dialogs the option "Ignore this ending - jump to measure #[target
> >> measure]."
> >>
> >> I hope the MakeMusic people who monitor this list take this under
> >> advisement.
> >>
> >> The problem of using the "ignore repeats" in the Playback is that
> >> sometimes, as in this situation of Robert's, perhaps there is one first
> >> ending that should be ignored on playback but others that need to be
> >> taken.
> >>
> >> My solution solves that problem but it's a bother and should be an
> >> option in the repeat dialog.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> David H. Bailey
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 1/12/2016 6:49 PM, Lawrence Yates wrote:
> >>> Excellent - thank you!
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>>
> >>> Lawrence
> >>>
> >>> On 12 January 2016 at 23:35, GERALD BERG  wrote:
> >>>
>  Brilliant David! GJB
> 
> 
>  From: David H. Bailey 
> To: finale@shsu.edu
> Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 6:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [Finale] Always skip first ending
> 
> 
>  On 1/12/2016 1:05 PM, Robert Patterson wrote:
> > Is there away to set an ending always to be skipped? I have an
> optional
>  1st
> > ending that I never want to hear in playback, regardless of "Ignore
> > Repeats" settings. The option to skip the ending is not jumping out
> at
>  me.
> 
>  I don't see any easy way, but the workaround I've found isn't too
>  onerous:
>  1) in the repeat tool duplicate the D.S. al Fine instruction and edit
>  the font to be hidden.
>  2) select this new hidden D.S. al Fine in the repeat tool and set the
>  target measure number to be the start of the 2nd ending.
> 
>  This worked in my short 3 measure example so I see no reason why it
>  shouldn't work for you in a more major piece.
> 
> 
>  --
>  David H. Bailey
>  dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com
>  http://www.davidbaileymusicstudio.com
> 
> 
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Re: [Finale] Always skip first ending

[David H. Bailey]

On 1/13/2016 11:09 AM, Robert Patterson wrote:
> David,
>
> At your quite helpful suggestion, I went back and looked at the text
> repeats. Go Measure # works for me, so long as it is in the bar
> preceding the first ending.
>

Ahh -- that's the one Peter was talking about.  I was referring to the
"Go To Measure #" which is part of the dialog when assigning a repeat or
an ending to a measure.

I had missed that one, too.  Silly us.  ;-)


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