Re: [Finale] New Finale

[Craig Parmerlee]

It would be great if you could download the free trial and tell us if 
any of those bugs have been fixed.




On 8/17/2016 9:35 PM, Allen Cohen wrote:
>
> I would so much like to be optimistic about the new version--especially that 
> the bugs from 2014 will be fixed! But all of this discussion makes me feel, 
> shall we say, somewhat skeptical...
>
>
> Just for fun, here is a list of bugs I am constantly encountering in 2014.5 
> for Mac (with El Capitan). Please feel free to correct me if I've missed a 
> fix--or double the fun, and add the bugs you've discovered to the list!
>
>
> -Harp parts with glissandi in both hands don't play back correctly in Aria.
> -Harmonics play back correctly in some staves but not in others.
> -Smart Shape metatools can't be changed.
> -Text blocks do not display properly in Page View, except in Column View. (Or 
> sometimes Book View.)
> -Sometimes Page View just refuses to change pages. Only switching to Scroll 
> View gets me to the proper place. This happens (and disappears) unpredictably.
> -Contrary to the User Guide, Command-Home and command-End do not work in Page 
> View.
> -At least when converting older versions to 2014, EPS graphics do not display 
> properly.
> -The Tempo tool no longer allows more than one tempo in a bar! (There are 
> some very kludgy workarounds.)
> -Playback controls do not work well; in particular, you have to hit either 
> Stop or the space bar many times to get playback to stop.
>
>
>
>
> Allen Cohen
> Professor of Music, Fairleigh Dickinson University
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[Finale] New Finale

[Allen Cohen]

I would so much like to be optimistic about the new version--especially that 
the bugs from 2014 will be fixed! But all of this discussion makes me feel, 
shall we say, somewhat skeptical...


Just for fun, here is a list of bugs I am constantly encountering in 2014.5 for 
Mac (with El Capitan). Please feel free to correct me if I've missed a fix--or 
double the fun, and add the bugs you've discovered to the list!


-Harp parts with glissandi in both hands don't play back correctly in Aria.
-Harmonics play back correctly in some staves but not in others.
-Smart Shape metatools can't be changed.
-Text blocks do not display properly in Page View, except in Column View. (Or 
sometimes Book View.)
-Sometimes Page View just refuses to change pages. Only switching to Scroll 
View gets me to the proper place. This happens (and disappears) unpredictably.
-Contrary to the User Guide, Command-Home and command-End do not work in Page 
View.
-At least when converting older versions to 2014, EPS graphics do not display 
properly.
-The Tempo tool no longer allows more than one tempo in a bar! (There are some 
very kludgy workarounds.)
-Playback controls do not work well; in particular, you have to hit either Stop 
or the space bar many times to get playback to stop.




Allen Cohen
Professor of Music, Fairleigh Dickinson University


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Re: [Finale] reduced notes next to full size notes.

[Christopher Smith]

I don’t understand the question. “Replicate?” And what do you mean by “next to”?

The Resize Tool (looks like a %) should do everything you want, assuming you 
click in the correct place (it behaves differently depending on how you aim it.)

Christopher


> On Wed Aug 17, at WednesdayAug 17 4:01 PM, Jim Fischer  
> wrote:
> 
> How do I replicate this?
> 
> Note size changer requires selecting an area, not notes.
> 
> thx, Jim
> 
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Re: [Finale] reduced notes next to full size notes.

[Raymond Horton]

Layers.

Raymond Horton
Composer, Arranger
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Retired Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra, 1971-2016


On Aug 17, 2016 4:01 PM, "Jim Fischer"  wrote:

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>
> Note size changer requires selecting an area, not notes.
>
> thx, Jim
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[Finale] reduced notes next to full size notes.

[Jim Fischer]

How do I replicate this?

Note size changer requires selecting an area, not notes.

thx, Jim


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[Finale] Tuplet correction plugin

[Barbara Touburg]

Hello all,

After a lengthy and confusing correspondence with the helpdesk at 
Makemusic, I found out that the engraver tuplets aren't engraver tuplets 
at all.
I thought that I messed up my tuplet settings, so I asked the helpdesk 
what the default settings are.
There are none, at least no settings that could achieve my goal, namely:

number on beamed tuplets always on the beam side
tuplets on unbeamed notes always above the notes
but in case of 2 layers:
layer 1, always over the notes, regardless of stem direction
layer 2, always under the notes, regardless of stem direction.

Would one of the plugin developers be interested to program a plugin 
that can take care of my wishes?
That would be great!

Thanks,
Barbara
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Re: [Finale] Finale 25--Plug-ins

[Robert Patterson]

Patterson Plugins for Finale 25 are now available at the website.

http://robertgpatterson.com/-fininfo/finmain.html

On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 10:33 AM, Raymond Horton 
wrote:

> Already Windows 10, so no problem there. I am convinced by this review, I
> am buying!!!
>
> Raymond Horton
> Composer, Arranger
> Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) United Methodist Church
> Retired Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra, 1971-2016
>
>
> On Aug 17, 2016 10:49 AM, "Eric Dannewitz"  wrote:
>
> > True, though you are being "high suggested" to move to Windows 10 and
> then
> > there is the whole Windows thing with dealing with viruses and security
> > issues..
> >
> > Sometimes it's better to be in a park than to look at it through a window
> >
> > Sent from my iSomething
> > --
> >
> >
> > > On Aug 17, 2016, at 7:43 AM, Raymond Horton 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks. ( I am a Windows guy, so I don't need to own any national parks
> > > before running!)
> > >
> > > Raymond Horton
> > > Composer, Arranger
> > > Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) United Methodist Church
> > > Retired Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra, 1971-2016
> > >
> > >
> > > On Aug 17, 2016 10:41 AM, "Christopher Smith" <
> > > christopher.sm...@videotron.ca> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Here’s a review. Click on Robert Puff’s link at the bottom of this
> > review,
> > >> too. One of them ran speed tests, and Finale v. 25 is almost, but not
> > >> quite, as fast as 2012 in most things, but faster than 2014.5 in
> almost
> > >> everything. But then, you need Yosemite at least to run Finale v. 25.
> > >>
> > >> Christopher
> > >>
> > >> http://www.sibeliusblog.com/news/makemusic-releases-
> > version-25-of-finale/
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> On Wed Aug 17, at WednesdayAug 17 10:29 AM, Raymond Horton <
> > >> horton.raym...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> There is a very helpful report. Would you be interested in running a
> > >> couple
> > >>> of speed tests, with a file I send you?
> > >>>
> > >>> Raymond Horton
> > >>> Composer, Arranger
> > >>> Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) United Methodist Church
> > >>> Retired Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra, 1971-2016
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Aug 17, 2016 10:24 AM, "Steve Gruver"  wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> I just upgraded to Finale 25 from v2014.5 and have it found it to be
> > very
> > >>> stable and fast (especially when doing playback of a file).  However,
> > be
> > >>> aware that TGTools, JW Tools, etc will NOT work with this new version
> > >> until
> > >>> they come out with a 64-bit version.
> > >>>
> > >>> I received an email from Tobias Giesen (TGTools) this morning stating
> > >> that
> > >>> a 64-bit version for MacOS will be out in a couple of weeks.
> > >>>
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Re: [Finale] Finale 25--Plug-ins

[Raymond Horton]

Already Windows 10, so no problem there. I am convinced by this review, I
am buying!!!

Raymond Horton
Composer, Arranger
Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) United Methodist Church
Retired Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra, 1971-2016


On Aug 17, 2016 10:49 AM, "Eric Dannewitz"  wrote:

> True, though you are being "high suggested" to move to Windows 10 and then
> there is the whole Windows thing with dealing with viruses and security
> issues..
>
> Sometimes it's better to be in a park than to look at it through a window
>
> Sent from my iSomething
> --
>
>
> > On Aug 17, 2016, at 7:43 AM, Raymond Horton 
> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks. ( I am a Windows guy, so I don't need to own any national parks
> > before running!)
> >
> > Raymond Horton
> > Composer, Arranger
> > Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) United Methodist Church
> > Retired Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra, 1971-2016
> >
> >
> > On Aug 17, 2016 10:41 AM, "Christopher Smith" <
> > christopher.sm...@videotron.ca> wrote:
> >
> >> Here’s a review. Click on Robert Puff’s link at the bottom of this
> review,
> >> too. One of them ran speed tests, and Finale v. 25 is almost, but not
> >> quite, as fast as 2012 in most things, but faster than 2014.5 in almost
> >> everything. But then, you need Yosemite at least to run Finale v. 25.
> >>
> >> Christopher
> >>
> >> http://www.sibeliusblog.com/news/makemusic-releases-
> version-25-of-finale/
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Wed Aug 17, at WednesdayAug 17 10:29 AM, Raymond Horton <
> >> horton.raym...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> There is a very helpful report. Would you be interested in running a
> >> couple
> >>> of speed tests, with a file I send you?
> >>>
> >>> Raymond Horton
> >>> Composer, Arranger
> >>> Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) United Methodist Church
> >>> Retired Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra, 1971-2016
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Aug 17, 2016 10:24 AM, "Steve Gruver"  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I just upgraded to Finale 25 from v2014.5 and have it found it to be
> very
> >>> stable and fast (especially when doing playback of a file).  However,
> be
> >>> aware that TGTools, JW Tools, etc will NOT work with this new version
> >> until
> >>> they come out with a 64-bit version.
> >>>
> >>> I received an email from Tobias Giesen (TGTools) this morning stating
> >> that
> >>> a 64-bit version for MacOS will be out in a couple of weeks.
> >>>
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Re: [Finale] Finale 25--Plug-ins

[Eric Dannewitz]

True, though you are being "high suggested" to move to Windows 10 and then 
there is the whole Windows thing with dealing with viruses and security 
issues..

Sometimes it's better to be in a park than to look at it through a window

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> On Aug 17, 2016, at 7:43 AM, Raymond Horton  wrote:
> 
> Thanks. ( I am a Windows guy, so I don't need to own any national parks
> before running!)
> 
> Raymond Horton
> Composer, Arranger
> Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) United Methodist Church
> Retired Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra, 1971-2016
> 
> 
> On Aug 17, 2016 10:41 AM, "Christopher Smith" <
> christopher.sm...@videotron.ca> wrote:
> 
>> Here’s a review. Click on Robert Puff’s link at the bottom of this review,
>> too. One of them ran speed tests, and Finale v. 25 is almost, but not
>> quite, as fast as 2012 in most things, but faster than 2014.5 in almost
>> everything. But then, you need Yosemite at least to run Finale v. 25.
>> 
>> Christopher
>> 
>> http://www.sibeliusblog.com/news/makemusic-releases-version-25-of-finale/
>> 
>> 
>>> On Wed Aug 17, at WednesdayAug 17 10:29 AM, Raymond Horton <
>> horton.raym...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> There is a very helpful report. Would you be interested in running a
>> couple
>>> of speed tests, with a file I send you?
>>> 
>>> Raymond Horton
>>> Composer, Arranger
>>> Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) United Methodist Church
>>> Retired Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra, 1971-2016
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Aug 17, 2016 10:24 AM, "Steve Gruver"  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I just upgraded to Finale 25 from v2014.5 and have it found it to be very
>>> stable and fast (especially when doing playback of a file).  However, be
>>> aware that TGTools, JW Tools, etc will NOT work with this new version
>> until
>>> they come out with a 64-bit version.
>>> 
>>> I received an email from Tobias Giesen (TGTools) this morning stating
>> that
>>> a 64-bit version for MacOS will be out in a couple of weeks.
>>> 
>>> Steve
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Re: [Finale] Finale 25--Plug-ins

[Raymond Horton]

Thanks. ( I am a Windows guy, so I don't need to own any national parks
before running!)

Raymond Horton
Composer, Arranger
Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) United Methodist Church
Retired Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra, 1971-2016


On Aug 17, 2016 10:41 AM, "Christopher Smith" <
christopher.sm...@videotron.ca> wrote:

> Here’s a review. Click on Robert Puff’s link at the bottom of this review,
> too. One of them ran speed tests, and Finale v. 25 is almost, but not
> quite, as fast as 2012 in most things, but faster than 2014.5 in almost
> everything. But then, you need Yosemite at least to run Finale v. 25.
>
> Christopher
>
> http://www.sibeliusblog.com/news/makemusic-releases-version-25-of-finale/
>
>
> > On Wed Aug 17, at WednesdayAug 17 10:29 AM, Raymond Horton <
> horton.raym...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > There is a very helpful report. Would you be interested in running a
> couple
> > of speed tests, with a file I send you?
> >
> > Raymond Horton
> > Composer, Arranger
> > Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) United Methodist Church
> > Retired Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra, 1971-2016
> >
> >
> > On Aug 17, 2016 10:24 AM, "Steve Gruver"  wrote:
> >
> > I just upgraded to Finale 25 from v2014.5 and have it found it to be very
> > stable and fast (especially when doing playback of a file).  However, be
> > aware that TGTools, JW Tools, etc will NOT work with this new version
> until
> > they come out with a 64-bit version.
> >
> > I received an email from Tobias Giesen (TGTools) this morning stating
> that
> > a 64-bit version for MacOS will be out in a couple of weeks.
> >
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Re: [Finale] Finale 25--Plug-ins

[Christopher Smith]

Here’s a review. Click on Robert Puff’s link at the bottom of this review, too. 
One of them ran speed tests, and Finale v. 25 is almost, but not quite, as fast 
as 2012 in most things, but faster than 2014.5 in almost everything. But then, 
you need Yosemite at least to run Finale v. 25.

Christopher

http://www.sibeliusblog.com/news/makemusic-releases-version-25-of-finale/


> On Wed Aug 17, at WednesdayAug 17 10:29 AM, Raymond Horton 
>  wrote:
> 
> There is a very helpful report. Would you be interested in running a couple
> of speed tests, with a file I send you?
> 
> Raymond Horton
> Composer, Arranger
> Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) United Methodist Church
> Retired Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra, 1971-2016
> 
> 
> On Aug 17, 2016 10:24 AM, "Steve Gruver"  wrote:
> 
> I just upgraded to Finale 25 from v2014.5 and have it found it to be very
> stable and fast (especially when doing playback of a file).  However, be
> aware that TGTools, JW Tools, etc will NOT work with this new version until
> they come out with a 64-bit version.
> 
> I received an email from Tobias Giesen (TGTools) this morning stating that
> a 64-bit version for MacOS will be out in a couple of weeks.
> 
> Steve
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[Finale] Finale 25 ain't true 64-bit

[Howey, Henry]

Why?

Because you cannot move around a playing score like you can in Sibelius.

There is still no lunga for early music.

And my extended set of Garritan sounds is not readily available.

I may move to Steinberg soon.

Henry Howey
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Re: [Finale] Finale 25--Plug-ins

[Raymond Horton]

There is a very helpful report. Would you be interested in running a couple
of speed tests, with a file I send you?

Raymond Horton
Composer, Arranger
Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) United Methodist Church
Retired Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra, 1971-2016


On Aug 17, 2016 10:24 AM, "Steve Gruver"  wrote:

I just upgraded to Finale 25 from v2014.5 and have it found it to be very
stable and fast (especially when doing playback of a file).  However, be
aware that TGTools, JW Tools, etc will NOT work with this new version until
they come out with a 64-bit version.

I received an email from Tobias Giesen (TGTools) this morning stating that
a 64-bit version for MacOS will be out in a couple of weeks.

Steve
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[Finale] Finale 25--Plug-ins

[Steve Gruver]

I just upgraded to Finale 25 from v2014.5 and have it found it to be very
stable and fast (especially when doing playback of a file).  However, be
aware that TGTools, JW Tools, etc will NOT work with this new version until
they come out with a 64-bit version.

I received an email from Tobias Giesen (TGTools) this morning stating that
a 64-bit version for MacOS will be out in a couple of weeks.

Steve
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Re: [Finale] Finale vNext

[Mike Greensill]

WellI don't see shelling out $149 for what seems like almost no new
features and no promises of bug fixes. When it comes down to it I'm
thrilled with the way 2012 works, it does everything I need. I had no luck
with 2014. Maybe if I got a new computer with all the latest mac operating
systems I might be tempted. But I'm leery about upgrading because it seems
that so many older programs won't work any more.

Love

Mike G.

www.mikegreensill.com

cell - 707 235 5107
home - 707 967 9491

On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 11:58 AM, j...@thomastudios.com 
wrote:

> OK.  I’ll get the ball rolling here.  Just received my notification that
> the last version of Finale is now available.  I rarely jump on things right
> away, preferring all the rest of you early-adopters to be extended beta
> testers!
>
> For $149 uprgrade fee, this version, for me, has to be much FASTER,
> especially with larger files, all or most of the old, ancient existing bugs
> expunged (or close to it), on and on.
>
> Let’s start the discussion folks!
>
>
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> J D Thomas
> ThomaStudios
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