Re: [Finale] Change instruments in percussion

[Rafael Leonardo Junchaya]

Robert, you're right. I did not notice that (although I remembered the
option when you mentioned it). Curiously, If the change is made in the
middle of the piece, that is the only option that shows up, but if the
change is made from the beginning both are possible. I didn't see the
Marimba [treble clef] option because the Marimba option came up first.
Thanks for clearing it up

Rafael J

On 29 June 2017 at 19:48, Robert Patterson <rob...@robertgpatterson.com>
wrote:

> I believe there is a single-staff marimba option in Change Instrument.
>
> On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 11:46 AM, Rafael Leonardo Junchaya <
> rjunch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi. I'm facing an unespected situation with the orchestral piece I'm
> > working on. I have two percussion parts. One is playing basically
> > accesories but needs to change to marimba in some point. I wanted Finale
> to
> > handle the change to make playback easier so I used the Change instrument
> > tool and Finale replaced my percussion staff (on line) with a grand
> staff.
> > The marimba played back ok, and I thought I could just delete the extra
> > staff but the problem is that Finalle does not allow me to change back to
> > orchestral percussion. It seems that once I selected Marimba as the
> changed
> > instrument it only allows for pitched percussion instruments and not
> > accessories or drums. That is quite annoying, don't know if anyone else
> has
> > experienced this situation. I will have to do the change to marimba in
> the
> > old way.
> >
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[Finale] Change instruments in percussion

[Rafael Leonardo Junchaya]

Hi. I'm facing an unespected situation with the orchestral piece I'm
working on. I have two percussion parts. One is playing basically
accesories but needs to change to marimba in some point. I wanted Finale to
handle the change to make playback easier so I used the Change instrument
tool and Finale replaced my percussion staff (on line) with a grand staff.
The marimba played back ok, and I thought I could just delete the extra
staff but the problem is that Finalle does not allow me to change back to
orchestral percussion. It seems that once I selected Marimba as the changed
instrument it only allows for pitched percussion instruments and not
accessories or drums. That is quite annoying, don't know if anyone else has
experienced this situation. I will have to do the change to marimba in the
old way.

Rafael J
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Re: [Finale] TGTools in Finale 25

[Rafael Leonardo Junchaya]

Nice. I guess that Windows 10 is somewhat responsible here

On 21 June 2017 at 19:12, Eric Dannewitz <ericd...@jazz-sax.com> wrote:

> Again, works fine on a Mac with TGTools 3 and Finale 25
>
>
> > On Jun 21, 2017, at 9:11 AM, Rafael Leonardo Junchaya <
> rjunch...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > It seems that this situation is linked to the use of two monitors. The
> > TGTools function windows show up off the screens, off both of them.
> Tobias
> > showed me how to move them back to the screen but the issue is there
> > everytime. Has anyone else using two monitors experienced something
> similar
> > with this tool or any other?
> >
> > R.
> >
> > On 19 June 2017 at 18:00, Rafael Leonardo Junchaya <rjunch...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> No other version than 3 works with Finale 25. I have stated I have
> >> v.3.00rc2, which I bought some months ago.
> >>
> >> R.
> >>
> >> On 18 June 2017 at 20:35, Steve Gruver <gruve...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> You must purchase v 3.0, which is almost out of Beta.  Earlier
> versions of
> >>> TGtools are not compatible.
> >>>
> >>> http://www.tgtools.com/downdocs.htm
> >>>
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Re: [Finale] TGTools in Finale 25

[Rafael Leonardo Junchaya]

It seems that this situation is linked to the use of two monitors. The
TGTools function windows show up off the screens, off both of them. Tobias
showed me how to move them back to the screen but the issue is there
everytime. Has anyone else using two monitors experienced something similar
with this tool or any other?

R.

On 19 June 2017 at 18:00, Rafael Leonardo Junchaya <rjunch...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> No other version than 3 works with Finale 25. I have stated I have
> v.3.00rc2, which I bought some months ago.
>
> R.
>
> On 18 June 2017 at 20:35, Steve Gruver <gruve...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> You must purchase v 3.0, which is almost out of Beta.  Earlier versions of
>> TGtools are not compatible.
>>
>> http://www.tgtools.com/downdocs.htm
>>
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Re: [Finale] TGTools in Finale 25

[Rafael Leonardo Junchaya]

No other version than 3 works with Finale 25. I have stated I have
v.3.00rc2, which I bought some months ago.

R.

On 18 June 2017 at 20:35, Steve Gruver  wrote:

> You must purchase v 3.0, which is almost out of Beta.  Earlier versions of
> TGtools are not compatible.
>
> http://www.tgtools.com/downdocs.htm
>
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Re: [Finale] TGTools in Finale 25

[Rafael Leonardo Junchaya]

I have already asked Tobias, waiting for his reply. Was wondering if
anybody else has experienced the situation. So far I have discovered that
if I keep one the action windows open, like for instance, Find (which
works) then I can open the other action windows without a problem.
Exception is the Options window, that is not showing at all.

It's annoying and weird. Have already reinstalled Finale, and the problem
seems to be there still.

R.

On 17 June 2017 at 20:27, Robert Patterson <rob...@robertgpatterson.com>
wrote:

> You could try reporting the problem to Tobias.
>
> On Sat, Jun 17, 2017 at 12:24 PM, Rafael Leonardo Junchaya <
> rjunch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I'm sorry, just recorded the video with Game DVR and it seems that the
> > dropdown menus are not shown, but I selected the following tools:
> > Align/Move, Tremolos (this one opened), Harmonics and Options.
> >
> > R.
> >
> > On 17 June 2017 at 20:21, Rafael Leonardo Junchaya <rjunch...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > This is what happens when I try to work with TGTools:
> https://youtu.be/
> > > YZfP4ceexug
> > >
> > > R
> > >
> > > On 17 June 2017 at 20:04, Rafael Leonardo Junchaya <
> rjunch...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Of course, otherwise the plug-in manu wouldn't show up. In the info it
> > >> reads v.3rc2. It actually seem to make some action, like if a window
> > >> would.ve been oponed somewhere in the third dimension (lost of focus
> > >> from the main Finale windows) but nothing is there...
> > >>
> > >> R.
> > >>
> > >> On 16 June 2017 at 21:40, Ryan <ry.squa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> I've had no problems with it. Are you certain the new 64bit plug-ins
> > have
> > >>> been installed in the correct folder for Finale 25, and not Finale
> > >>> 2014.5's
> > >>> folder?
> > >>>
> > >>> On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 10:15 AM, Eric Dannewitz <
> > ericd...@jazz-sax.com>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> > Works fine on the Mac version of Finale 25
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > > On Jun 16, 2017, at 10:14 AM, Rafael Leonardo Junchaya <
> > >>> > rjunch...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > Hi, has anyone experienced issues with TGTools v.3rc2 or beta in
> > >>> Finale
> > >>> > > 25(.1 or .3)? Mine is not reacting apparently (or maybe it reacts
> > but
> > >>> > > nothing visible is happening) and I cannot use the tools I've
> been
> > >>> used
> > >>> > to
> > >>> > > for decades. It was ok until Fin 2014.5 but the new 64bit version
> > is
> > >>> not
> > >>> > > working for me. I am aware there were issues with the shortkeys
> but
> > >>> > > apparently that has been corrected. This is somewhat more serios
> as
> > >>> > almost
> > >>> > > no option from the menu seems to be working.
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > I have asked Tobias but while I'm awaiting for an answer I'd like
> > to
> > >>> know
> > >>> > > if anyone has experienced anything similar. I have Finale 25,3
> in a
> > >>> HP
> > >>> > with
> > >>> > > Intel i5and Windows 10, of course 64bit.
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > Thanks
> > >>> > >
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Re: [Finale] TGTools in Finale 25

[Rafael Leonardo Junchaya]

I'm sorry, just recorded the video with Game DVR and it seems that the
dropdown menus are not shown, but I selected the following tools:
Align/Move, Tremolos (this one opened), Harmonics and Options.

R.

On 17 June 2017 at 20:21, Rafael Leonardo Junchaya <rjunch...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> This is what happens when I try to work with TGTools: https://youtu.be/
> YZfP4ceexug
>
> R
>
> On 17 June 2017 at 20:04, Rafael Leonardo Junchaya <rjunch...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Of course, otherwise the plug-in manu wouldn't show up. In the info it
>> reads v.3rc2. It actually seem to make some action, like if a window
>> would.ve been oponed somewhere in the third dimension (lost of focus
>> from the main Finale windows) but nothing is there...
>>
>> R.
>>
>> On 16 June 2017 at 21:40, Ryan <ry.squa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I've had no problems with it. Are you certain the new 64bit plug-ins have
>>> been installed in the correct folder for Finale 25, and not Finale
>>> 2014.5's
>>> folder?
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 10:15 AM, Eric Dannewitz <ericd...@jazz-sax.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Works fine on the Mac version of Finale 25
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > > On Jun 16, 2017, at 10:14 AM, Rafael Leonardo Junchaya <
>>> > rjunch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > Hi, has anyone experienced issues with TGTools v.3rc2 or beta in
>>> Finale
>>> > > 25(.1 or .3)? Mine is not reacting apparently (or maybe it reacts but
>>> > > nothing visible is happening) and I cannot use the tools I've been
>>> used
>>> > to
>>> > > for decades. It was ok until Fin 2014.5 but the new 64bit version is
>>> not
>>> > > working for me. I am aware there were issues with the shortkeys but
>>> > > apparently that has been corrected. This is somewhat more serios as
>>> > almost
>>> > > no option from the menu seems to be working.
>>> > >
>>> > > I have asked Tobias but while I'm awaiting for an answer I'd like to
>>> know
>>> > > if anyone has experienced anything similar. I have Finale 25,3 in a
>>> HP
>>> > with
>>> > > Intel i5and Windows 10, of course 64bit.
>>> > >
>>> > > Thanks
>>> > >
>>> > > Rafael J
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Re: [Finale] TGTools in Finale 25

[Rafael Leonardo Junchaya]

This is what happens when I try to work with TGTools:
https://youtu.be/YZfP4ceexug

R

On 17 June 2017 at 20:04, Rafael Leonardo Junchaya <rjunch...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Of course, otherwise the plug-in manu wouldn't show up. In the info it
> reads v.3rc2. It actually seem to make some action, like if a window
> would.ve been oponed somewhere in the third dimension (lost of focus from
> the main Finale windows) but nothing is there...
>
> R.
>
> On 16 June 2017 at 21:40, Ryan <ry.squa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I've had no problems with it. Are you certain the new 64bit plug-ins have
>> been installed in the correct folder for Finale 25, and not Finale
>> 2014.5's
>> folder?
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 10:15 AM, Eric Dannewitz <ericd...@jazz-sax.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Works fine on the Mac version of Finale 25
>> >
>> >
>> > > On Jun 16, 2017, at 10:14 AM, Rafael Leonardo Junchaya <
>> > rjunch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Hi, has anyone experienced issues with TGTools v.3rc2 or beta in
>> Finale
>> > > 25(.1 or .3)? Mine is not reacting apparently (or maybe it reacts but
>> > > nothing visible is happening) and I cannot use the tools I've been
>> used
>> > to
>> > > for decades. It was ok until Fin 2014.5 but the new 64bit version is
>> not
>> > > working for me. I am aware there were issues with the shortkeys but
>> > > apparently that has been corrected. This is somewhat more serios as
>> > almost
>> > > no option from the menu seems to be working.
>> > >
>> > > I have asked Tobias but while I'm awaiting for an answer I'd like to
>> know
>> > > if anyone has experienced anything similar. I have Finale 25,3 in a HP
>> > with
>> > > Intel i5and Windows 10, of course 64bit.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks
>> > >
>> > > Rafael J
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Re: [Finale] TGTools in Finale 25

[Rafael Leonardo Junchaya]

Of course, otherwise the plug-in manu wouldn't show up. In the info it
reads v.3rc2. It actually seem to make some action, like if a window
would.ve been oponed somewhere in the third dimension (lost of focus from
the main Finale windows) but nothing is there...

R.

On 16 June 2017 at 21:40, Ryan <ry.squa...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I've had no problems with it. Are you certain the new 64bit plug-ins have
> been installed in the correct folder for Finale 25, and not Finale 2014.5's
> folder?
>
> On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 10:15 AM, Eric Dannewitz <ericd...@jazz-sax.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Works fine on the Mac version of Finale 25
> >
> >
> > > On Jun 16, 2017, at 10:14 AM, Rafael Leonardo Junchaya <
> > rjunch...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi, has anyone experienced issues with TGTools v.3rc2 or beta in Finale
> > > 25(.1 or .3)? Mine is not reacting apparently (or maybe it reacts but
> > > nothing visible is happening) and I cannot use the tools I've been used
> > to
> > > for decades. It was ok until Fin 2014.5 but the new 64bit version is
> not
> > > working for me. I am aware there were issues with the shortkeys but
> > > apparently that has been corrected. This is somewhat more serios as
> > almost
> > > no option from the menu seems to be working.
> > >
> > > I have asked Tobias but while I'm awaiting for an answer I'd like to
> know
> > > if anyone has experienced anything similar. I have Finale 25,3 in a HP
> > with
> > > Intel i5and Windows 10, of course 64bit.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Rafael J
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[Finale] TGTools in Finale 25

[Rafael Leonardo Junchaya]

Hi, has anyone experienced issues with TGTools v.3rc2 or beta in Finale
25(.1 or .3)? Mine is not reacting apparently (or maybe it reacts but
nothing visible is happening) and I cannot use the tools I've been used to
for decades. It was ok until Fin 2014.5 but the new 64bit version is not
working for me. I am aware there were issues with the shortkeys but
apparently that has been corrected. This is somewhat more serios as almost
no option from the menu seems to be working.

I have asked Tobias but while I'm awaiting for an answer I'd like to know
if anyone has experienced anything similar. I have Finale 25,3 in a HP with
Intel i5and Windows 10, of course 64bit.

Thanks

Rafael J
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Re: [Finale] What is happening?

[Rafael Leonardo Junchaya]

Mine is too :(

Rafael J

On 19 April 2017 at 01:23, Jón Kristinn Cortez  wrote:

> What is happening on this list, why is my mail held?
>
> Cortez
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[Finale] Defined measure numbers and barlines

[Rafael Leonardo Junchaya]

Hi, can anyone confirm that this bug is still present in Finale 25,3 for
Windows? When I have "Display measure numbers" active but have some
measures not included in measure numbering, Finale seems to behave quite
strangely: if I change a barline style, for instance, clicking on the
barline box and selecting a different one, Finale applies the changes
somewhere else (it seems it counts the bars ignoring the not included bars)
although I have clicked in a specific barline. This behaviour is not
present if I select "Display actual measure numbers". AFAIR, I noticed this
bug in Fin2011, maybe earlier versions already have it, and it seems it has
not been addressed yet (and I guess it should not be very difficult to
solve). I remember that there were also other problems linked to this
issue, but cannot remember any just now.

Yes, it's annoying

Rafael Junchaya
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Re: [Finale] Instruments.txt?

[Rafael Leonardo Junchaya]

AFAIK, Instruments.txt does not longer exist. Instrument definitions are
hardwired and compiled and determined by the programmers, we no longer have
an option to define instruments.

R.

On 12 December 2016 at 22:39, Michael Dutka  wrote:

> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2016 02:01:51 +0100
> From: SN jef chippewa 
> Subject: Re: [Finale] Instruments.txt?
> To: 
> Message-ID: <768478932.76549.1481331712...@email.1und1.de>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> check that your finale Preferences/Folders/Configuration Files (on
> F2014.5,
> names are different on F2010) are set to look up the file in the right
> place.
>
> Thanks for your reply. Checked all the files and can't find a file anywhere
> that looks like instruments.txt. Probably upgrading soon, just have a few
> files to go before that and have all the instruments I need in existing
> templates, so not crucial, but if there is a way to get that
> instruments.txt file from 2010, be great to know.
>
> Thanks again and best,
>  Mike
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Re: [Finale] Key signature

[Rafael Leonardo Junchaya]

By outgoing, do you mean the naturals that are cancelled? If that's the
case, use the normal new key signature (with the cancelling naturals
shown), hide the barline, add some extra space between the cancelled key
and the new one and add a smart shape line as barline.

R.

On 18 October 2016 at 17:52, j...@thomastudios.com 
wrote:

> Being that this is a completely redundant notational request, my thinking
> is the best and fastest way around it would be to create an expression for
> the 2nd time signature, using the default font so it matches.
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> > On Oct 18, 2016, at 7:43 AM, Barbara Touburg  wrote:
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> > I'm copying a piece that has the outgoing key signature *before* the
> > barline and the new key signature *after* the barline.
> > Is there a way in Finale to accomplish this?
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Re: [Finale] Contrabass flute, instrument levels.

[Rafael Leonardo Junchaya]

There seems to be a bug, also found in Fin25. The clef assignment can be
changed (to treble clef) but playback is wrong anyway. You'll have to do it
in the old way, with Staff Styles (and tell Makemusic too)

Rafael J

On 3 September 2016 at 22:56, SN jef chippewa  wrote:

>
> score in C maybe?  should be correct in the part.
>
> >When I choose "contrabass flute" in a mid-score instrument change,
> >it renders it in bass clef. Contrabass flute reads treble clef.
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Re: [Finale] toll icons

[Rafael Leonardo Junchaya]

Wasn't it that this option of changing the palettes was disabled in 2012 or
was it in 2014?

Rafael J

On 19 July 2016 at 09:34, Haroldo Mauro  wrote:

> Preferences -> Palettes and Background
>
>
> On 18/07/2016, at 22:18, Linda Worsley wrote:
>
> > Finale 2012 mac:
> > Is it possible to revert the icons of the tool display to the "classic"
> xib
> > artkw?  I did this in a previous release, but in 2012 I can't find it in
> > the menus or "preferences or "view" items.
> >
> > As usual, thanks in advance!.
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Re: [Finale] mid-measure generated courtesy clef

[Rafael Leonardo Junchaya]

I have tried to recreate thw situation and I get no phantom clefs. But now
I remember I had a similar problem, do not remember exactly how it was, but
I had problems to get the mid measure clefs in the right position, and I
assumed it was a bug. All I remember was that measure numbering was the
issue, do not remember if it was because I had a pickup measure (it was not
my file, someone else had made it and I was just formatting), or there were
hidden measures (vertically) or the measure numbers was not continous
(there were some measures not counted). Or maybe it was just that there
were measure number regions. Maybe that is a possibility. Other option
might be the use of voices, but it does not look like that in the fig. I
suggest you delete the measure, reeenter the music all in in G clef, select
the last notes only when in clef tool and press 4 to change the clef, do
not use the right click window select.

Rafael J

On 14 July 2016 at 22:45, Nick Raspa  wrote:

> Yes, that is correct.  I tried to respond to the previous message and
> added a screen shot, but the email is being held up awaiting approval since
> the pdf makes the email larger than allowed.  Here is a link to a public
> file on my one drive where I placed the screen shot.
> https://1drv.ms/f/s!ArMFZ3mtyZaVcfWIeo8HUd4Dnjs <
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>
> Nick Raspa
>
> > On Jul 14, 2016, at 3:33 PM, David H. Bailey 
> wrote:
> >
> > I think that Nick is saying that the phantom treble clef is showing at
> > the beginning of the measure where the bass clef is placed in the middle
> > -- in other words it's showing up unnecessarily because the music is
> > already in treble clef before the bass clef.  He's not asking about a
> > treble clef showing up following the mid-measure bass clef.
> >
> > I just tried an experiment and placed a mid-measure change to bass clef
> > and no phantom treble clef appeared at the start of that measure.
> >
> > David H. Bailey
> >
> >
> >
> > On 7/14/2016 3:14 PM, j...@thomastudios.com wrote:
> >> You said you wanted a mid-measure bass clef for one measure, right?
> >> Then Finale restating the treble clef at the next measure is as
> >> designed.  Am I missing something?  If you get rid of it, the next
> >> measure continues in bass clef.  Isn’t that what you wanted?
> >>
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> >>> On Jul 14, 2016, at 12:00 PM, Nick Raspa  wrote:
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> >>> Hello,
> >>>
> >>> I am working on a piano/voice score.  I am in the treble clef and I
> >>> want a mid-measure clef change to the bass clef for just one
> >>> measure.  I create the mid-measure bass clef and that clef appears
> >>> to work just as it should.  However, a phantom treble clef appears
> >>> at the beginning of that measure and I can’t figure out 1) why it
> >>> is being created and 2) how to get rid of it.  It is the same size
> >>> as the mid-measure clef and doesn’t have a handle to grab.  I’ve
> >>> tried changing the measure attributes to hide cautionary clefs, but
> >>> that doesn’t work.  I am working in FinMac 2014.5 (same thing was
> >>> happening in 2014 before I upgraded).
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Re: [Finale] Moving Overlapping Rests in Opposing Direction

[Rafael Leonardo Junchaya]

I think you'll have to tweak it manually in these cases, and I'd trust that
better.

R.

On 8 June 2016 at 11:35, Giovanni Andreani  wrote:

> I'm back after a long-term forced separation with this list, and do really
> need someone's advice about an unusual graphic layout problem I incurred in
> and for which I havn't found any convenient solution.
> Here's the issue: I have different duration rests in layers one and two
> overlapping; I haven't checked out the 'Adjust Floating Rests' for these
> two layers in Document Options because I need to have them floating at
> different steps from case to case, obviously within the same piece. Up to
> now, I have accomplished this effectively by using staff styles but,
> unfortunately, the Staff Setup window don't distinguish smaller rests than
> the half rest,only  allowing to separate at various different distances,
> any combination between rests equal o bigger than the half rest while
> grouping all other small rests in one category named 'Other Rests'. I found
> myself stuck when in the need to separate two differen rests smaller than
> the half rest, like a quarter rest and an eight rest; the staff style will
> move the two in the same direction while, in other cases, I was able to
> overlap two different staff styles placing the rests in opposite directions.
>
> Any hint?
> Giovanni
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Re: [Finale] Win2014.5 locked up

[Rafael Leonardo Junchaya]

Try loading as Administrator. If it does not work, try loading in in
compatibility mode, let it check the compatibility and save the results. It
might work sometimes then, but maybe you'll have to do the procedure every
now and then. I tried it in Windows 10, btw.

Rafael J

On 6 June 2016 at 04:43, Raymond Horton  wrote:

> Thanks
>
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> former Bass trombonist, Louisville Orchestra
>
> On Jun 5, 2016 8:40 PM, "Jon Block"  wrote:
>
> > Best advice is to contact MakeMusic through the website.
> > If you do it tonight you may get a message back tomorrow.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 6:03 PM, Raymond Horton  >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Finale Windows 2014 .5 locks up when I try to load it. I reinstalled
> and
> > > rebooted, no difference. Thanks for any advice
> > >
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Re: [Finale] Finale 2014.5 Windows?

[Rafael Leonardo Junchaya]

I've got a lot of compatibility issues in Windows 10. I have to make sure
everytime that it's run in Administrator mode. Besides that, it seems to
work quite ok, have not experienced anything really strange yet.

Rafael J

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> I've done a little bit of work and so far have had no problems.
>
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> On 7 Dec 2015 13:40, "Allen Fisher"  wrote:
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> > I’m still having problems with lyric baselines in converted files… I may
> > have to submit a support request.
> >
> > > On 6 Dec, 2015, at 1:50 PM, Daniel Wolf  wrote:
> > >
> > > Anyone have experience with 2014.5 on Windows?  Features? Problems? Is
> it
> > > worth the upgrade or a if-it-ain't-broke-don't-fix-it situation?
> > >
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Re: [Finale] New Bugs 2014.5

[Rafael Leonardo Junchaya]

Wonder why they have released a version that is so buggy. I came back to
2014d because 2014.5 makes a lot of problems...

Rafael Junchaya

On 22 November 2015 at 14:14, David H. Bailey 
wrote:

> On 11/22/2015 6:38 AM, Graeme Gerrard wrote:
> > I don’t get it.  I am sure the new owners and engineers have been
> working hard and long on 2014.5.  But again, a release has emerged that
> can’t have been thoroughly tested or it wouldn’t have seen the light of day!
> >
> > The problem must be in the testing cycle.  Users, actual users, not
> novice or pretend users, seem to only take a few hours or days to turn up
> problems, problems that should have been detected in alpha tests and never
> made it to beta.
> > The need to “get something out the door” seems to over-ride pride in
> producing something good.  I am aware it is a massively complex product, or
> set of products.
> > ..and when there’s no real competition….
> > Actually Musescore isn’t anywhere near Finale yet, but there is a drive
> there to make a better product that is clearly missing among “professional”
> producers.
> > Graeme
> >
>
>
> Actually, with version 2 I think Musescore got a lot closer to Finale
> than many think, and for many people who use notation software,
> Musescore is all they will ever need.  Not professional engravers, but
> hobbyist musicians, students, and composers who need good notation but
> not all the intricacies of Finale or Sibelius (or the expense).
>
> While I do some professional engraving projects when the opportunity
> arises using either Finale or Sibelius if the customer specifies, I find
> that when left to my own choices and for all the new projects of my own
> I use Sibelius and get wonderful results without many of the
> frustrations that recent versions of Finale have introduced.  These are
> the kinds of projects which for years I used Finale for.  So I'm not
> quite sure why you're saying that there is "no real competition" for
> Finale.  Certainly there is with Sibelius, except that its corporate
> ownership doesn't seem to be any better than Finale's corporate
> ownership.  And some new notation software users are going with Notion,
> although it's got a ways to go before it will catch up with Sibelius or
> Finale for more complex notation needs.  But at least Notion has a
> usable tablet version using the same file format which allows users to
> do a lot while away from their primary computers without the somewhat
> lossy migration using MusicXML (but at least that's a huge improvement
> over MIDI migration).  That's something that both Sibelius and Finale
> would do well to emulate!
>
> Steinberg's notation product is still far from the marketplace so we
> have no clue whether it will be significant competition or not --
> certainly they are pouring lots of development dollars into it with no
> publicly visible corporate pressure to rush an incomplete product to
> market.  And their development team is headed by a person with a proven
> track record of leading solid development of notation software.
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Re: [Finale] New Bugs 2014.5

[Rafael Leonardo Junchaya]

I am experiencing several compatibility issues with Windows 10. Need always
to make sure I run as administrator (which should be by default) and check
compatibility issues every now and then.

And wasn't it that they were to rebundle the option of changing palettes?

Rafael J

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jari.williams...@mailbox.swipnet.se> wrote:

> On 2015-11-22 20:05, Craig Parmerlee wrote:
> >My gut feel is that 2015.5 is a little better than 2014 on
> > balance,
>
> My gut feel is that you are using a product that isn't available.
>
>
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Re: [Finale] TRIPLETS

[Rafael Leonardo Junchaya]

HP recognizes the triplets as Robert describes them, but yes, it's a
problem to try to copy them with Finale alone.

Rafael J

On 2 November 2015 at 16:40, Robert Patterson 
wrote:

> You can achieve that result with some effort. Basically you apply a triplet
> of 3 eighths in the time of 2 to a dotted quarter. You add the slash as an
> articulation. I believe (but am not 100% certain) that Human Playback will
> even play this back correctly if you use one of the slash symbols it
> recognizes.
>
> The main challenge is that if you use Finale to copy this, it may remove
> the triplets (and convert the dotted quarters to quarters) in a misguided
> attempt to be helpful. My Mass Copy plugin can help with this as well.
>
> R
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 8:31 AM, David H. Bailey 
> wrote:
>
> > On 11/2/2015 9:04 AM, Robert Patterson wrote:
> > > You absolutely can beam over a grace note, but it takes some fiddling
> > with
> > > the \ key in Speedy on both the grace note and the non-grace note. Or
> you
> > > can use my "Beam Selection" plugin that makes it easy.
> > >
> > > I don't understand the question about the triplets-as-dotted quarters
> > > exactly. Do you mean 3 dotted quarters in the time of 2? This can be
> done
> > > easily using the triplet dialog.
> > >
> >
> > What she means is that instead of writing triplet 8ths on the same
> > pitch, using the old-fashioned shorthand of writing a dotted quarter and
> > putting a slash through the stem to indicate the playing of an
> > equivalent number of 8th notes.
> >
> > I don't know how to do it to achieve accurate playback, but I know what
> > she wants.
> >
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Re: [Finale] breaking secondary beams (TGTools or...)

[Rafael Leonardo Junchaya]

Tobias Giesen's set off tools has a very good option for secondary beam
breaking.

Rafael J


On pe, heinä 10, 2015 at 13:43 , shirl...@newmusicnotation.com 
shirl...@newmusicnotation.com wrote:

is there any other tool for breaking secondary beams?  the options in the
mac
version are considerably less than in this screenshot (i have the latest
v2.71
installed):
http://www.tgtools.de/secbeam.htm

i want to make only the 32nd beam break on each group of four 32nds, all of
the
settings i try break also the 16th.

JW Change doesn't have an option for this in the beams section.


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Re: [Finale] Line

[Rafael Leonardo Junchaya]

I agree that the line over the notes is an out-of-tempo sign. But I find
the transcription overhelmingly pedantic and unnecessary difficult. It
distorts the idea of a score as a guide for making music, provided there's
also the recording. And it makes me wonder why the use of apoggiaturas,
they must've been transcribed also into regular rhhythm notation to keep
the idea.

IMHO

Rafael J

On 3 July 2015 at 14:25, Michael launay-c...@gmx.net wrote:

 That is a very strange way to transcribe the rhythm. I can’t see any
 logical reason for the brackets you mention: I’d just ignore them.

 I’d be very interested to see your final version of this. How are you
 going to approach the notation of the rhythms? Put it all in 4/4 and give
 detailed rubato indications?

 Greetings,
 Michael

  On 2 Jul 2015, at 22:34, Barbara Touburg btoub...@online.nl wrote:
 
  On 2-7-2015 22:26, Chuck Israels wrote:
  Hi Barbara,
 
  Can you send me a photo of the score - something that might show the
 surrounding context?  Then I might be able to figure out what the bracket
 indicates.
 
  Chuck
 
 
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4vumyjk0X8
 
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Re: [Finale] Force Full Staff/Group Names

[Rafael Leonardo Junchaya]

Hi. It's in Measure Attributes, check Show full staff and group names.
I've also noticed it recently, been using the Staff Styles method (it can
be painful)

Rafael Junchaya

On 30 June 2015 at 19:54, Ryan ry.squa...@gmail.com wrote:

 Finale 2014d, Mac OS.

 I seem to recall a version or two ago that it was possible to force a score
 system to display the full staff or group names, rather than the
 abbreviated name (in the case of a new movement starting in the same
 document). Is this possible and how is it done?

 I know you can define a group to apply only to a certain number of
 measures. Then you can redefine another group for the rest of the document.
 That would be too time consuming in my case. This is a method book and each
 new exercise is essentially a new movement. I'm hoping for a one-click
 solution (Plug-In?).

 Thanks

 Ryan
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[Finale] Transferring page layout

[Rafael Leonardo Junchaya]

Hi. I have just realised that I've been working on an old version file of a
large orchestra project, where I have already set the whole staff layout
for each page. I'd like to know if there is a chance to transfer the whole
layout to another file, provided the number of measures per system and the
number of systems per page are equally set.

JW Copy part layout does not work on scores, and TG Tools Modify- Transfer
seems not to do anything

Thanks a lot for your ideas

Rafael J
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[Finale] Maestro Wide and Windows 8.1

[Rafael Leonardo Junchaya]

Hello

I have just run into a problem with Finale 2014 on Windows 8.1. I cannot
select Maestro Wide in any instance, it always reverts to Maestro regular.
I am aware there was an issue in FinWin10 and Windows 7 that was supposedly
corrected with an update (I skipped Windows 2010 altogether) and had not
noticed any problem in FinWin11 under Vista or Windows 7, but now that I'm
using the latest versions of Finale and Windows I have found this issue.
Can anyone replicate the problem or is it just related to my own
installation?

Thanks

Rafael Junchaya
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Re: [Finale] Maestro Wide and Windows 8.1

[Rafael Leonardo Junchaya]

Found a workaround that applied to earlier versions, but seems to work here
too: instead of selection Maestro and Wide from the font and type list
boxes, type directly Maestro Wide and Wide respectively and click OK. It
seems to work. I guess it's more like a Wondows issue in the handling of
fonts but it's quite annoying

Rafael J

On 16 May 2015 at 12:30, David H. Bailey dhbaile...@comcast.net wrote:

 On 5/16/2015 4:39 AM, Rafael Leonardo Junchaya wrote:
  Hello
 
  I have just run into a problem with Finale 2014 on Windows 8.1. I cannot
  select Maestro Wide in any instance, it always reverts to Maestro
 regular.
  I am aware there was an issue in FinWin10 and Windows 7 that was
 supposedly
  corrected with an update (I skipped Windows 2010 altogether) and had not
  noticed any problem in FinWin11 under Vista or Windows 7, but now that
 I'm
  using the latest versions of Finale and Windows I have found this issue.
  Can anyone replicate the problem or is it just related to my own
  installation?

 Very curious -- on my computer, FinWin2014 and Win8.1 I can't select the
 Wide option either.  It always reverts back to Regular.

 So it's not just your installation -- it's mine, too.


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Re: [Finale] Maestro Wide and Windows 8.1

[Rafael Leonardo Junchaya]

Thanks, Jan. That's funny, I have my Windows in English, with local
configuration in Finnish but keyboard in Spanish with Finnish layout. I
guess that confuses Finale :D

Rafael J

On 16 May 2015 at 12:50, Jan Angermüller j...@angermueller.com wrote:

 I had the same issue a few weeks ago in Finale 2014/Windows 7.
 MM support recommended just what you said: type directly Maestro Wide.
 It works fine.
 They said it was an issue that only appears in non-english versions of
 Windows - in my case German - which they don't officially support.

 Jan

 Am 16.05.2015 um 11:39 schrieb Rafael Leonardo Junchaya:
  Found a workaround that applied to earlier versions, but seems to work
 here
  too: instead of selection Maestro and Wide from the font and type list
  boxes, type directly Maestro Wide and Wide respectively and click OK. It
  seems to work. I guess it's more like a Wondows issue in the handling of
  fonts but it's quite annoying
 
  Rafael J
 
  On 16 May 2015 at 12:30, David H. Bailey dhbaile...@comcast.net wrote:
 
  On 5/16/2015 4:39 AM, Rafael Leonardo Junchaya wrote:
  Hello
 
  I have just run into a problem with Finale 2014 on Windows 8.1. I
 cannot
  select Maestro Wide in any instance, it always reverts to Maestro
  regular.
  I am aware there was an issue in FinWin10 and Windows 7 that was
  supposedly
  corrected with an update (I skipped Windows 2010 altogether) and had
 not
  noticed any problem in FinWin11 under Vista or Windows 7, but now that
  I'm
  using the latest versions of Finale and Windows I have found this
 issue.
  Can anyone replicate the problem or is it just related to my own
  installation?
  Very curious -- on my computer, FinWin2014 and Win8.1 I can't select the
  Wide option either.  It always reverts back to Regular.
 
  So it's not just your installation -- it's mine, too.
 
 
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  dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com
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Re: [Finale] 8vab

[Rafael Leonardo Junchaya]

Hi. You need to deselect the sign clicking somewhere else and select it
again. Strange behaviour, but it's the same with slurs.

R.

On 6 May 2015 at 14:30, Barbara Touburg btoub...@online.nl wrote:

 On 6-5-2015 7:36, Darcy James Argue wrote:
  Scroll view.

 Hello Darcy,

 That's where I went in the first place, because that's how it used to
 work in earlier versions of Finale.
 The snap points just won't move in FinWin2014.

 Thanks,
 Barbara
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Re: [Finale] tuplets: global changes, copying definitions

[Rafael Leonardo Junchaya]

Don, I'd also suggest that you try Jari Williamson's JWChange plugin. It
does some tricks with the tuplets (I also used it in an old file to correct
the tuplet positions)

Rafael J

On 27 January 2015 at 13:45, Robert Patterson rob...@robertgpatterson.com
wrote:

 Don,

 It may just be that after several updates and upgrades, at least once a
 year, there was about a three-year hiatus between 2.6.3 and the next
 version which I believe was called 3.0. So we got to know 2.6.3 really
 well. I'm pretty sure I did all my work for graduate school on it. And it
 *was* stable. Much more stable than 3.0.

 I don't recall when note-attached slurs came in. It may not have been until
 Fin97. Otherwise it was probably in an iteration of v3.

 BTW: If you want to use my plugins with Fin11, you need to continue to use
 v3. Later versions do not run in any version before Fin12.

 Robert






 On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Don Hart donhartmu...@gmail.com wrote:

  Thanks Robert,
 
  That was the method I used to change the tuplet settings.  I noticed that
  reset button but thought it would just zero-out the dialog settings.
 That
  will help.
 
  It's time for me to upgrade to or buy your latest plugins--will check
 that
  out.
 
  Were smart shapes introduced in v.2?  The slurs in this score didn't
 attach
  to notes--early behavior.  Though I can't remember all the reasons why, I
  have a fondness for 2.6.3.  I think a large part of it was stability.  I
  distinctly remember losing a day's work after Finale crashed, even
 though I
  had been meticulously saving my work all day long.  I believe 2.6.3 fixed
  that behavior, but my habit of saving alternately to two external disks
  lingered on for a while.
 
  Thanks again,
 
  Don
 
  On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 8:50 AM, Robert Patterson 
  rob...@robertgpatterson.com wrote:
 
   Don,
  
   You should be able to return your tuplets to default settings en-masse
 by
   selecting a range then using Utilities-Change-Tuplets. If you hit the
   Reset button at the bottom, it will fill in the default tuplet
 settings.
  
   For some reason every version of Finale since the beginning has has
  forced
   Tuplets to be tied to Notes in the Edit filter. This arbitrary
  restriction
   was the original reason I created the first version of my Mass Copy
  plugin
   (then called Tuplet Copy or some such). You can use Mass Copy to copy
   tuplets and tuplet settings without copying the notes.
  
   I tried opening one of my files from the 90-91 era, and it does not
  report
   the version. The suggests to me that it might be from before v2.
 Ideally
   your file would have been upgraded to 2.6.3 before being brought into
 the
   modern world,
  
   Robert
  
  
   On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 8:18 AM, Don Hart donhartmu...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  
Hi Everyone,
   
Temporarily back in 2011, still on a mac.  I'm resurrecting a very
 old
Finale file, c. '90 or '91.  All is going fairly smoothly, but I
 can't
   seem
to find a global way to clear the old positioning on the tuplets I've
edited.  So far, the only way to finalize the changes I've made
 (i.e.,
   see
the new positioning) seems to be to click the first note of each
  tuplet,
click on its handle and hit clear.  Anyone have a more efficient way
 to
   do
this?
   
And while we're on the subject, Tuplet Definitions is always grayed
 in
   the
Edit Filter and can't be checked independently (a check mark appears
  when
Notes and Rests is selected, but it's still grayed).  Can those
  settings
only be copied when attached to the notes they define?
   
BTW, does anyone recall the current Finale version in late '90 or
 early
'91, or know where I can find a version history to help me determine
   what I
would have been using at that time?
   
Thanks much,
   
Don Hart
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