Re: [Finale] Compatability with XP Service Pack 2 (SP2)?
On 23 Mar 2005 at 18:03, Richard Yates wrote: > > Finale will run just fine on SP2. However, if you have any spyware > > on your computer before you start the SP2 install the consequences > > can be disastrous. You should run Ad-Aware Personal from > > http://www.lavasoftusa.com/ to make sure your machine is clear > > before upgrading the OS to SP2. > > It can be completely disastrous if the computer is not prepared > properly. Check the newsgroup microsoft.public.update for hundreds of > horror stories. > > Prepare the computer according to the instructions at: > > http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/spackins.htm > > I have not dared to take this step yet! The instructions there may be very disorganized and quite poorly formatted, but they look like good advice to me. For those who've asked in private email about cleaning up spyware, the two industry leaders are AdAware (from LavaSoft) and SpyBot SearchAndDestroy. You can Google for them. However, a recent study found that these programs still leave some things undetected. If you really want to clean up your computer, this is what you should do: 1. back up all your data. 2. download all the service packs and patches for your operating system so you can install them on a fresh copy of Windows *before* you reconnect to the Internet. You'll probably want to save copies of all the updates and latest virus definitions for your anti-virus program, too. 3. reformat your hard drive. 4. re-install Windows. 5. apply all the service packs and patches. 6. install your anti-virus software, patch it and install the most up- to-date virus definitions (all of which you saved in step 2). 7. connect your computer to your firewall or NAT router (don't connect direct to your cable modem or dialup Internet connection). 8. run Windows update to update everything else that you haven't downloaded. 9. re-install all your programs, except those that are known spyware vectors. See http://cexx.org/adware.htm for information on this and check the list of Advertising Spyware (the most common category that is stealthily installed along with other, useful software). 10. download and install Opera or FireFox. Vow never to use Internet Explorer again. 11. Abandon Outlook Express or Outlook as your email client and get a real email client, like Pegasus Mail, Eudora or Thunderbird (part of the Mozilla suite, a sibling of FireFox). The only way to avoid spyware is to not use any programs that are susceptible to them and to never install software that you haven't checked for know spyware (Googling on "spyware" and the name of the software should do the job). I have no spyware because I'm not susceptible as I don't use vulnerable programs or install any programs that include spyware. This doesn't cramp my computing at all. -- David W. Fentonhttp://www.bway.net/~dfenton David Fenton Associateshttp://www.bway.net/~dfassoc ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] Compatability with XP Service Pack 2 (SP2)?
On 23 Mar 2005 at 16:06, Lee Actor wrote: > > [...] > > > > Why anyone would put up with pop-ups (or use a browser that requires > > add-on software to prevent pop-ups) I can't imagine, especially with > > all the publicity the alternative browsers have been getting. > > > > Since XP SP2, IE6 has been completely resistant to pop-ups. In this > respect, it is noticeably superior to Firefox, the browser I use most > often. And it's available on only one version of Windows, so it's of little help to the majority of Windows users. If it's blocking popups better than FireFox, then you must not have FireFox configured properly. I haven't seen a pop-up since I started using Mozilla in October 2001, unless I requested it. -- David W. Fentonhttp://www.bway.net/~dfenton David Fenton Associateshttp://www.bway.net/~dfassoc ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Compatability with XP Service Pack 2 (SP2)?
> Finale will run just fine on SP2. However, if you have any spyware on > your computer before you start the SP2 install the consequences can be > disastrous. You should run Ad-Aware Personal from > http://www.lavasoftusa.com/ to make sure your machine is clear before > upgrading the OS to SP2. It can be completely disastrous if the computer is not prepared properly. Check the newsgroup microsoft.public.update for hundreds of horror stories. Prepare the computer according to the instructions at: http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/spackins.htm I have not dared to take this step yet! Richard Yates ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] Compatability with XP Service Pack 2 (SP2)?
> [...] > > Why anyone would put up with pop-ups (or use a browser that requires > add-on software to prevent pop-ups) I can't imagine, especially with > all the publicity the alternative browsers have been getting. > Since XP SP2, IE6 has been completely resistant to pop-ups. In this respect, it is noticeably superior to Firefox, the browser I use most often. Lee Actor Composer-in-Residence and Assistant Conductor, Palo Alto Philharmonic http://www.leeactor.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Compatability with XP Service Pack 2 (SP2)?
On 23 Mar 2005 at 13:38, Phil Daley wrote: > My daughter brought me two computers to upgrade. > > Hers was fine, although I had never seen so many "spyware/adware" on > one system before, over 500. What does this number mean? Is this the number that programs like AdAware give for the count of registry keys, files, etc., that it finds? If so, then it's a ridiculously stupid number, as it includes things like Doubleclick cookies, including the "opt-out" cookie (which is on my PC). Every spyware-infested computer I've ever cleaned up has had 5-15 different spyware programs installed. There may very well be 100s of different bits and pieces in different places, but the actual full spyware programs is substantially smaller than that. I'm not meaning to minimize the problem -- it's a ridiculous problem, one that's caused and enabled by bad business practices throughout the industry (a situation created by MS's bad software designs). But the methods of estimating the extent of an individual PC's infestation seem grossly blown out of proportion. -- David W. Fentonhttp://www.bway.net/~dfenton David Fenton Associateshttp://www.bway.net/~dfassoc ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Compatability with XP Service Pack 2 (SP2)?
On 23 Mar 2005 at 10:26, Brad Beyenhof wrote: > I'm actually not exactly sure, but that's what Leo Laporte has always > said to callers on his technology radio show. I made sure to clean out > every trace of spyware before upgrading, so I don't know what might > have happened if I hadn't. Why would anyone *not* want to clean out spyware, whether they are installing an OS service pack or not? I still cannot fathom why anyone with any technical knowledge at all would still be using Internet Explorer for anything at all -- it's a terrible program in terms of security, compatibility with standards and usability. It has been vastly surpassed by every other browser available, none of which have even 10% of the dangerous exploits as it. Why anyone would put up with pop-ups (or use a browser that requires add-on software to prevent pop-ups) I can't imagine, especially with all the publicity the alternative browsers have been getting. I have *no* spyware on my PC because I don't use software that is vulnerable to it or that install it itself. Why is it that everyone is not wanting the same thing? -- David W. Fentonhttp://www.bway.net/~dfenton David Fenton Associateshttp://www.bway.net/~dfassoc ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Compatability with XP Service Pack 2 (SP2)?
At 3/23/2005 01:26 PM, Brad Beyenhof wrote: >> However, if you have any spyware on >> your computer before you start the SP2 install the consequences can be >> disastrous. >> What sort of "disastrous" consequences could we expect to see? Oh, I missed this on it's first appearance. My daughter brought me two computers to upgrade. Hers was fine, although I had never seen so many "spyware/adware" on one system before, over 500. Her boy friend's didn't appear to be that bad, but it had some virus that made it stop booting after I upgraded it. I spent some time booting from a floppy to try and fix it, it was hopeless. Had to reformat his hard drive. Phil Daley < AutoDesk > http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Compatability with XP Service Pack 2 (SP2)?
I'm actually not exactly sure, but that's what Leo Laporte has always said to callers on his technology radio show. I made sure to clean out every trace of spyware before upgrading, so I don't know what might have happened if I hadn't. Brad On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:00:03 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In a message dated 23/03/2005 14:57:08 GMT Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > However, if you have any spyware on > your computer before you start the SP2 install the consequences can be > disastrous. > What sort of "disastrous" consequences could we expect to see? > > All the best, > > Lawrence > > "þaes ofereode - þisses swa maeg" > > http://lawrenceyates.co.uk > > > > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > > -- Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Life would be so much easier if only (3/2)^12=(2/1)^7. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Compatability with XP Service Pack 2 (SP2)?
In a message dated 23/03/2005 14:57:08 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: However, if you have any spyware onyour computer before you start the SP2 install the consequences can bedisastrous. What sort of "disastrous" consequences could we expect to see? All the best, Lawrence "þaes ofereode - þisses swa maeg"http://lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Compatability with XP Service Pack 2 (SP2)?
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 23:00:35 +1100, Paul Copeland wrote: > > Hello. > > I have Windows XP Home Edition. > > I have Finale 2005b > > Is it safe for me to install XP Service Pack 2 (SP2)? > > Many thanks for your help. > > Please forgive me if this question has already been answered. I haven't > checked the list for some months now. Finale will run just fine on SP2. However, if you have any spyware on your computer before you start the SP2 install the consequences can be disastrous. You should run Ad-Aware Personal from http://www.lavasoftusa.com/ to make sure your machine is clear before upgrading the OS to SP2. -- Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] my blog: http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com Life would be so much easier if only (3/2)^12=(2/1)^7. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Compatability with XP Service Pack 2 (SP2)?
Paul Copeland wrote: Hello. I have Windows XP Home Edition. I have Finale 2005b Is it safe for me to install XP Service Pack 2 (SP2)? Many thanks for your help. Please forgive me if this question has already been answered. I haven't checked the list for some months now. I have WinXPpro and installed Service Pack 2 and have had no problems running Finale2005b since then. -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Compatability with XP Service Pack 2 (SP2)?
Hello. I have Windows XP Home Edition. I have Finale 2005b Is it safe for me to install XP Service Pack 2 (SP2)? Many thanks for your help. Please forgive me if this question has already been answered. I haven't checked the list for some months now. Paul Copeland ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
