Re: [Finale] Fin2005a question

2004-11-17 Thread Jari Williamsson
Aaron Sherber wrote:
Thanks for checking. Jari seems to have the impression that this is not 
fixed as well as it might be. With these conflicting reports, it looks 
like I will be passing on 2005 after all.
Do you still have the rest/bracket/triplet problem screenshot available, 
that illustrated the problem you produced in the initial Fin2005Demo 
release?

Best regards,
Jari Williamsson
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Re: [Finale] Fin2005a question

2004-11-17 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 09:58 AM 11/17/2004, Jari Williamsson wrote:
Do you still have the rest/bracket/triplet problem screenshot available,
that illustrated the problem you produced in the initial Fin2005Demo
release?
No, it looks like I've cleaned it off my website. But looking at the email 
I sent, if you create a triplet consisting of eighth rest/eighth 
note/eighth note and make the two notes an octave apart, the number would 
be completely outside the bracket (again, in the initial demo). Moving the 
notes closer together gradually brought the number in line with the bracket.

Aaron.
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Re: [Finale] Fin2005a question

2004-11-17 Thread Christopher Smith
On Wednesday, November 17, 2004, at 10:19  AM, Aaron Sherber wrote:
At 09:58 AM 11/17/2004, Jari Williamsson wrote:
Do you still have the rest/bracket/triplet problem screenshot 
available,
that illustrated the problem you produced in the initial Fin2005Demo
release?

No, it looks like I've cleaned it off my website. But looking at the 
email I sent, if you create a triplet consisting of eighth rest/eighth 
note/eighth note and make the two notes an octave apart, the number 
would be completely outside the bracket (again, in the initial demo). 
Moving the notes closer together gradually brought the number in line 
with the bracket.

Aaron.

Ah. When I tried your example (and a few of my own) in FinMac2005a, the 
number was indeed displaced higher if the first two notes (or rest and 
note) were high and the third an octave lower, and lower if the first 
two  notes were low. I don't have the original release of 2005 anymore 
on any of my computers, so I can't compare it with the original,  but 
this is indeed an instance of wacky number movement.

Sorry for the bad news.
Christopher
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Re: [Finale] Fin2005a question

2004-11-16 Thread Christopher Smith
On Monday, November 15, 2004, at 06:49  PM, Christopher Smith wrote:
On Monday, November 15, 2004, at 06:23  PM, Aaron Sherber wrote:
Hi,
Can anyone with the 2005a update confirm that Engraver Tuplet bugs 
are fixed as listed in the Readme -- in particular, that tuplet 
numbers no longer avoid expressions with undesirable results and 
that the vertical position of the number no longer varies greatly 
depending on the context?

I don't know when the demo will be updated to 2005a, and I'd like to 
order Fin2005 if these bugs have actually been quashed.

Thanks,
Aaron.
I'll check it when I get home, but are you on Mac or PC? I'm on mac.
Christopher

I tried it in Mac, and I can't get the number to behave badly under any 
circumstances in the way that it did before. If there is a specific 
test you would like me to try, I will, just explain it to me. This 
particular bug seems to be squashed, in my tests, anyway.

As for avoiding expressions, the tuplet doesn't seem to do that at all, 
but I don't remember it ever doing that. The number stays where it 
should in all cases that I tried, and I actually like the default 
angles of the brackets in most cases. With articulations or slurs, or 
both, is another story, though, as I need to adjust all of this by 
hand. The number looks good all the time, though.

Christopher
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Re: [Finale] Fin2005a question

2004-11-15 Thread Jari Williamsson
Aaron Sherber wrote:
Can anyone with the 2005a update confirm that Engraver Tuplet bugs are 
fixed as listed in the Readme -- in particular, that tuplet numbers no 
longer avoid expressions with undesirable results and that the 
vertical position of the number no longer varies greatly depending on 
the context?
The bugs regarding tuplets being affected by expressions and 
articulations are fixed. However, I would say that the bracket/number 
bug is still there, although it's not as huge as in the initial version 
of Fin2005. (The sequences of the tuplet marketing material on MMs site 
are still not what you get in Fin2005a.)

Best regards,
Jari Williamsson
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Re: [Finale] Fin2005a question

2004-11-15 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 06:49 PM 11/15/2004, Christopher Smith wrote:
I'll check it when I get home, but are you on Mac or PC? I'm on mac.
I'm on PC, but it shouldn't matter. This was not a platform-specific bug, 
so hopefully the fix isn't, either.

Thanks,
Aaron.
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Re: [Finale] Fin2005a question

2004-11-15 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 07:34 PM 11/15/2004, Jari Williamsson wrote:
The bugs regarding tuplets being affected by expressions and
articulations are fixed. However, I would say that the bracket/number
bug is still there, although it's not as huge as in the initial version
of Fin2005. (The sequences of the tuplet marketing material on MMs site
are still not what you get in Fin2005a.)
Damn. So I guess the key words in the Readme are no longer varies 
*greatly* -- now it just varies somewhat? I was hoping for doesn't vary 
at all.

Thanks,
Aaron.
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