Re: [Finale] Finale 2000c and 2004a playback mystery solved

2009-08-26 Thread Patsy Moore

Hello again,

Many thanks to the various people who responded to my problem with 
playback. It now looks as if there were two problems. If they were 
related I still don't know how. I was getting silent scrolling some of 
the time (scroll line moving and bars counting off as usual), but that 
seems to have stopped, and some files that were refusing to play back 
audibly are now OK.


From: dhbailey 

> When you say "playback ... was working ... and now isn't" do
> you mean that the playback doesn't start at all?  No pointer
> on the screen moving with the music, etc.  Or do you mean
> that it appears to be working but no sound is coming out?

I had a very frustrating time trying to sort out what was consistent in 
the problem. In the end I had normal playback for most files, and a 
small set of files all related to each other that froze the playback 
controls. The controls looked normal and behaved normally until I 
clicked "play". Then the controls were greyed out and there was no 
evidence of playback (e.g. no scrolling, no counting off of measure 
numbers).


That problem had the same simple solution for all of them: change "reset 
repeats" to "ignore repeats". My husband had come across that problem 
before, but when he first looked at one of my files he was concentrating 
on the silent scrolling, looking at a very short section in scroll view 
at the beginning of the piece where no repeats were visible. He reminds 
me that I had had that same problem once before, where a repeat had been 
wrongly set up and it stopped the playback, but it was long enough ago 
that I had forgotten.


> What playback mechanism are you using?

Midi output says: Microsoft GS wavetable SW Synt
I had checked the volume control and it wasn't muted, but I might well 
not have done, so thanks to the people who included that reminder. :)
I don't have an audio card. I'm just using the integral sound system: 
"Soundmax integrated digital audio".


> I wouldn't worry so much about the pre-scan or playback file
> stuff.  If you're following the same procedures you've
> always followed and playback has ceased to make sounds for
> you, it's something other than that.

That's a useful thought.

From: Marcello Noia 

> have you tried to check that in your audiocard the MIDI volume has
> not lowered to 0? Sometimes it happens to me without any reason (with 
> Finale 2006c for Windows) that when I open any file and start 
playback > I cannot hear anything, I go to audiocard mixer and find out 
that MIDI > fader (and that one only) is turned all way down.


Finale does seem to change things without asking first! A couple of 
times recently it's switched off "allow redo", which had me seriously 
worried.


Thanks again and best wishes,

Patsy.

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Re: [Finale] Finale 2000c and 2004a playback mystery

2009-08-25 Thread Noel Stoutenburg

Patsy Moore wrote:

Hello Listers,

Finale has obviously been evolving since I was last here several years 
ago, but I'm still using mainly 2000c with occasional forays into 
2004a which my husband has.


Playback on both versions of Finale was working fine until a couple of 
days ago and now isn't, and neither of us has been able to work out why.
It packed up on 2000c first. Playback worked at first in 2004 and then 
stopped working there too. The problem isn't a general one on the 
computer or my headphones as I can hear the BBC radio broadcasts as 
usual. I use Finale playback mainly for proof-listening, which I'm so 
much better at than visual proof-reading, so I really miss it.
Though your comment about the use of headphones implies you are playing 
back through the computer soundcard, you don't specify how you are 
playing back, through the computer sound card directly (sound through 
computer speakers), or through a MIDI device. If you have a MIDI output 
device, you might see if that is working correctly. You might also turn 
on the sound on a game, play it a bit, and see if you are hearing sound 
there. What exact values are in the MIDI menu? Save one of the files to 
MIDI format, and see if it will play back through Windows Media Player.


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Re: [Finale] Finale 2000c and 2004a playback mystery

2009-08-25 Thread dhbailey

David W. Fenton wrote:

On 25 Aug 2009 at 7:37, dhbailey wrote:

Are you using the 
SmartMusic Soundfont? 


That could be relevant only to 2004, no? 



Probably -- I couldn't recall just when they introduced that.

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Re: [Finale] Finale 2000c and 2004a playback mystery

2009-08-25 Thread David W. Fenton
On 25 Aug 2009 at 7:37, dhbailey wrote:

> Are you using the 
> SmartMusic Soundfont? 

That could be relevant only to 2004, no? 

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Re: [Finale] Finale 2000c and 2004a playback mystery

2009-08-25 Thread Marcello Noia
Maybe stupid and useless answer, have you tried to check that in your 
audiocard the MIDI volume has not lowered to 0?
Sometimes it happens to me without any reason (with Finale 2006c for 
Windows)  that when I open any file and start playback I cannot hear 
anything,
I go to audiocard mixer and find out that MIDI fader (and that one 
only)  is turned all way down.
You can hear radio broadcasts because they refer to WAV part of your 
audiocard.

My 2 cents.


Patsy Moore ha scritto:

Hello Listers,

Finale has obviously been evolving since I was last here several years 
ago, but I'm still using mainly 2000c with occasional forays into 
2004a which my husband has.


Playback on both versions of Finale was working fine until a couple of 
days ago and now isn't, and neither of us has been able to work out why.
It packed up on 2000c first. Playback worked at first in 2004 and then 
stopped working there too. The problem isn't a general one on the 
computer or my headphones as I can hear the BBC radio broadcasts as 
usual. I use Finale playback mainly for proof-listening, which I'm so 
much better at than visual proof-reading, so I really miss it.


I did find a mysterious instruction in the 2004 manual:

Playback Files: All options in the Playback Files group box are only 
used when a playback file is selected for playback. (If you're playing

the Active File, Pre-Scan Music must be selected in Playback Settings.)

I can't find anything in either version's Playback Settings that says 
"Pre-Scan Music".


All help grateful received.

Patsy.


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Re: [Finale] Finale 2000c and 2004a playback mystery

2009-08-25 Thread dhbailey

Patsy Moore wrote:

Hello Listers,

Finale has obviously been evolving since I was last here several years 
ago, but I'm still using mainly 2000c with occasional forays into 2004a 
which my husband has.


Playback on both versions of Finale was working fine until a couple of 
days ago and now isn't, and neither of us has been able to work out why.
It packed up on 2000c first. Playback worked at first in 2004 and then 
stopped working there too. The problem isn't a general one on the 
computer or my headphones as I can hear the BBC radio broadcasts as 
usual. I use Finale playback mainly for proof-listening, which I'm so 
much better at than visual proof-reading, so I really miss it.


I did find a mysterious instruction in the 2004 manual:

Playback Files: All options in the Playback Files group box are only 
used when a playback file is selected for playback. (If you're playing

the Active File, Pre-Scan Music must be selected in Playback Settings.)

I can't find anything in either version's Playback Settings that says 
"Pre-Scan Music".


All help grateful received.

Patsy.



When you say "playback ... was working ... and now isn't" do 
you mean that the playback doesn't start at all?  No pointer 
on the screen moving with the music, etc.  Or do you mean 
that it appears to be working but no sound is coming out?


What playback mechanism are you using?  Are you using the 
SmartMusic Soundfont?  Are you using your soundcard's midi 
synth?  That makes a big difference -- my first suggestion 
would be to double-click the speaker icon in the systray 
(assuming you're using Windows -- all this doesn't apply if 
you're on a Mac) and see whether your MIDI slider is pulled 
way down to the bottom.


I wouldn't worry so much about the pre-scan or playback file 
stuff.  If you're following the same procedures you've 
always followed and playback has ceased to make sounds for 
you, it's something other than that.


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dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com
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[Finale] Finale 2000c and 2004a playback mystery

2009-08-25 Thread Patsy Moore

Hello Listers,

Finale has obviously been evolving since I was last here several years 
ago, but I'm still using mainly 2000c with occasional forays into 2004a 
which my husband has.


Playback on both versions of Finale was working fine until a couple of 
days ago and now isn't, and neither of us has been able to work out why.
It packed up on 2000c first. Playback worked at first in 2004 and then 
stopped working there too. The problem isn't a general one on the 
computer or my headphones as I can hear the BBC radio broadcasts as 
usual. I use Finale playback mainly for proof-listening, which I'm so 
much better at than visual proof-reading, so I really miss it.


I did find a mysterious instruction in the 2004 manual:

Playback Files: All options in the Playback Files group box are only 
used when a playback file is selected for playback. (If you're playing

the Active File, Pre-Scan Music must be selected in Playback Settings.)

I can't find anything in either version's Playback Settings that says 
"Pre-Scan Music".


All help grateful received.

Patsy.

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pa...@mooremusic.org.uk
Conductor, arranger etc. Da Capo (Do All Come And Play Orchestra)
www.mooremusic.org.uk
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