[Finale] Group names

2010-09-06 Thread Dejan Badnjar
We have a problem with group names disappearing from the page view after
deleting number of measures in the file. All groups are set properly and
they display in the scroll view. Using TGTools to rebuild the groups does
not work. It puts the same text (i.e. Vc.) in all groups in the entire file.
Any ideas?

Dan


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Re: [Finale] Group names

2010-09-06 Thread David W. Fenton
On 6 Sep 2010 at 20:29, Dejan Badnjar wrote:

 We have a problem with group names disappearing from the page view
 after deleting number of measures in the file. All groups are set
 properly and they display in the scroll view. Using TGTools to rebuild
 the groups does not work. It puts the same text (i.e. Vc.) in all
 groups in the entire file. Any ideas?

Have you checked optimization? Whenever I have this problem it's 
always due to forgetting about the interaction between group names 
and optimization.

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RE: [Finale] Group names

2010-09-06 Thread Dejan Badnjar
All group names display properly when the systems are not optimized. As soon
as you optimize or apply Allow Individual Staff Spacing on the system they
disappear. 

-Original Message-
From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of
David W. Fenton
Sent: September 6, 2010 8:46 PM
To: finale@shsu.edu
Subject: Re: [Finale] Group names

On 6 Sep 2010 at 20:29, Dejan Badnjar wrote:

 We have a problem with group names disappearing from the page view
 after deleting number of measures in the file. All groups are set
 properly and they display in the scroll view. Using TGTools to rebuild
 the groups does not work. It puts the same text (i.e. Vc.) in all
 groups in the entire file. Any ideas?

Have you checked optimization? Whenever I have this problem it's 
always due to forgetting about the interaction between group names 
and optimization.

-- 
David W. Fentonhttp://dfenton.com
David Fenton Associates   http://dfenton.com/DFA/

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Re: [Finale] Group names

2010-09-06 Thread Chuck Israels
Try removing optimization from the offending staves and re-applying it.  That 
usually solves this problem for me.

Chuck


On Sep 6, 2010, at 5:51 PM, Dejan Badnjar wrote:

 All group names display properly when the systems are not optimized. As soon
 as you optimize or apply Allow Individual Staff Spacing on the system they
 disappear. 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of
 David W. Fenton
 Sent: September 6, 2010 8:46 PM
 To: finale@shsu.edu
 Subject: Re: [Finale] Group names
 
 On 6 Sep 2010 at 20:29, Dejan Badnjar wrote:
 
 We have a problem with group names disappearing from the page view
 after deleting number of measures in the file. All groups are set
 properly and they display in the scroll view. Using TGTools to rebuild
 the groups does not work. It puts the same text (i.e. Vc.) in all
 groups in the entire file. Any ideas?
 
 Have you checked optimization? Whenever I have this problem it's 
 always due to forgetting about the interaction between group names 
 and optimization.
 
 -- 
 David W. Fentonhttp://dfenton.com
 David Fenton Associates   http://dfenton.com/DFA/
 
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[Finale] Group names

2007-01-28 Thread Rafael L. Junchaya
I'm working on a score where the piano player changes to celesta in the 
middle of the piece, and the instrument name I'm using is Piano, as it is 
the first one used. There won't be problems with the part, as the group name 
is not showing there, but in the score I need to change the group name to 
Celesta and there is no way to apply a Staff style to a group. In Finale 
2007, after applying system optimization, I can create new groups (and their 
group names) where I need them, but in Finale 2006 (and I need to send this 
file in that format) I don't see an easy way to accomplish this (unless it 
implies working with two grand staves, one for the piano and the other for 
the celesta, which will be hidden accordingly at optimization time)


Is there any other way to get this?

Thank you all

Rafael Leonardo Junchaya 


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Re: [Finale] Group names

2007-01-28 Thread Aaron Sherber

At 10:30 PM 1/28/2007, Rafael L. Junchaya wrote:
I'm working on a score where the piano player changes to celesta in the
middle of the piece, and the instrument name I'm using is Piano, as it is
the first one used. There won't be problems with the part, as the group name
is not showing there, but in the score I need to change the group name to
Celesta and there is no way to apply a Staff style to a group. In Finale
2007, after applying system optimization, I can create new groups (and their
group names) where I need them, but in Finale 2006 (and I need to send this
file in that format) I don't see an easy way to accomplish this

After you apply optimization, group names and abbreviated names can 
be changed for individual systems. Just use the staff tool in page 
view to change the group name as needed. It's still a bit of a hassle 
to have to do this for each system -- I don't think there's a way to 
do it for several systems at once -- but at least it's possible.


Aaron.

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Re: [Finale] Group names

2007-01-28 Thread Robert Patterson
There is no difference between Fin06 and Fin07 with regards to staff 
optimization. After optimization you can manually change the group name 
without changing oter systems. This has been true since the first 
version of Finale that had group names. (Perhaps since Fin97 or earlier.)


Rafael L. Junchaya wrote:

I'm working on a score where the piano player changes to celesta in the 
middle of the piece, and the instrument name I'm using is Piano, as it 
is the first one used. There won't be problems with the part, as the 
group name is not showing there, but in the score I need to change the 
group name to Celesta and there is no way to apply a Staff style to a 
group. In Finale 2007, after applying system optimization, I can create 
new groups (and their group names) where I need them, but in Finale 2006 
(and I need to send this file in that format) I don't see an easy way to 
accomplish this (unless it implies working with two grand staves, one 
for the piano and the other for the celesta, which will be hidden 
accordingly at optimization time)


Is there any other way to get this?

Thank you all

Rafael Leonardo Junchaya
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[Finale] Group names in linked parts?

2006-10-17 Thread Darcy James Argue
What do you do if you don't want the group name to show in the linked  
part -- in, for instance, a piano part or harp part -- but *do* want  
it to show in the score?


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Re: [Finale] Group names in linked parts?

2006-10-17 Thread Robert Patterson
For some reason I thought group names were permanently unlinked. If not, you 
can always do it with optimization.

 -Original Message-
 From: Darcy James Argue [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 04:46 PM
 To: finale@shsu.edu
 Subject: [Finale] Group names in linked parts?
 
 What do you do if you don't want the group name to show in the linked  
 part -- in, for instance, a piano part or harp part -- but *do* want  
 it to show in the score?
 
 Cheers,
 
 - Darcy
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