[Finale] OT: works in octaves, unison etc.

2007-05-14 Thread Matthew Hindson fastmail acct

Dear listers,

A quick q to the wisdom of this list.  I am looking for any works or 
movts. of works for more than one instrument that are constructed 
entirely in unisons or octaves.  Obviously there is the Qt. for the End 
of Time mvt., and less obviously I've done one myself (fun to write if 
you've not tried it!). Can anyone suggest others?


TIA

Matthew
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Re: [Finale] OT: works in octaves, unison etc.

2007-05-14 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 11:49 AM 5/15/2007 +1000, Matthew Hindson fastmail acct wrote:
>A quick q to the wisdom of this list.  I am looking for any works or 
>movts. of works for more than one instrument that are constructed 
>entirely in unisons or octaves.  Obviously there is the Qt. for the End 
>of Time mvt., and less obviously I've done one myself (fun to write if 
>you've not tried it!). Can anyone suggest others?

If memory serves (don't count on it!) one or more of Carter's Eight Etudes
are in unisons and octaves. And the last movement of my Eventide (piccolo,
Eb clarinet,contrabassoon) is in octaves.

Then, of course, canons are in octaves or unisons -- just shifted in time. :)

Dennis


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Re: [Finale] OT: works in octaves, unison etc.

2007-05-14 Thread Darcy James Argue
Pretty much any bebop head, but that's probably not what you had in  
mind.


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On 14 May 2007, at 9:49 PM, Matthew Hindson fastmail acct wrote:


Dear listers,

A quick q to the wisdom of this list.  I am looking for any works  
or movts. of works for more than one instrument that are  
constructed entirely in unisons or octaves.  Obviously there is the  
Qt. for the End of Time mvt., and less obviously I've done one  
myself (fun to write if you've not tried it!). Can anyone suggest  
others?


TIA

Matthew
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Re: [Finale] OT: works in octaves, unison etc.

2007-05-15 Thread Mark D Lew


On May 14, 2007, at 6:49 PM, Matthew Hindson fastmail acct wrote:

A quick q to the wisdom of this list.  I am looking for any works  
or movts. of works for more than one instrument that are  
constructed entirely in unisons or octaves.  Obviously there is the  
Qt. for the End of Time mvt., and less obviously I've done one  
myself (fun to write if you've not tried it!). Can anyone suggest  
others?


I'm not sure that I'm understanding your question, but if I am, two  
examples from the vocal repertoire would be the duet of the two men  
in armor from Mozart's Zauberflöte and the Agnus Dei from Verdi's  
requiem.  (Though I've heard performances of the latter that made me  
wonder if Verdi was anticipating Stravinsky's use of parallel major  
sevenths)


mdl
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Re: [Finale] OT: works in octaves, unison etc.

2007-05-15 Thread Aaron Rabushka
One of the basso arias in Handel's Messiah, something about "the valley of
death..."

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Subject: [Finale] OT: works in octaves, unison etc.


> Dear listers,
>
> A quick q to the wisdom of this list.  I am looking for any works or
> movts. of works for more than one instrument that are constructed
> entirely in unisons or octaves.  Obviously there is the Qt. for the End
> of Time mvt., and less obviously I've done one myself (fun to write if
> you've not tried it!). Can anyone suggest others?
>
> TIA
>
> Matthew
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Re: [Finale] OT: works in octaves, unison etc.

2007-05-15 Thread dhbailey
Is that really *entirely* in octaves or unisons?  The orchestra is only 
playing octaves/unisons?


David H. Bailey


Aaron Rabushka wrote:

One of the basso arias in Handel's Messiah, something about "the valley of
death..."

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Dear listers,

A quick q to the wisdom of this list.  I am looking for any works or
movts. of works for more than one instrument that are constructed
entirely in unisons or octaves.  Obviously there is the Qt. for the End
of Time mvt., and less obviously I've done one myself (fun to write if
you've not tried it!). Can anyone suggest others?

TIA

Matthew
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Re: [Finale] OT: works in octaves, unison etc.

2007-05-15 Thread dr.a.s. weinstangel


I know there is Enescu's Preludio à l’unison for Orchestra, but confess to 
never hearing it.


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Subject: [Finale] OT: works in octaves, unison etc.


> Dear listers,
>
> A quick q to the wisdom of this list.  I am looking for any works or
> movts. of works for more than one instrument that are constructed
> entirely in unisons or octaves.  Obviously there is the Qt. for the End
> of Time mvt., and less obviously I've done one myself (fun to write if
> you've not tried it!). Can anyone suggest others?
>
> TIA
>
> Matthew
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Re: [Finale] OT: works in octaves, unison etc.

2007-05-15 Thread nraspa
I don't know if this is what you are looking for, however, I wrote a 
work back in 1989 based on the model of the DNA molecule as it is 
spinning.  The work, entitled "3.4/20/34 Angstrom", is 6 1/2 minutes 
long, for string quartet work and is atonal.  There are two movements 
(one for each half of the molecule).  The parallel movements between 
the instruments move from clashing intervals such as major 7ths to 
octaves and back.  Let me know if you would like to take a look at the 
score.


Nick Raspa

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  Dear listers, 
 
 A quick q to the wisdom of this list. I am looking for any works or 
movts. of works for more than one instrument that are constructed 
entirely in unisons or octaves. Obviously there is the Qt. for the End 
of Time mvt., and less obviously I've done one myself (fun to write if 
you've not tried it!). Can anyone suggest others? 

 
TIA 
 
Matthew 
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Re: [Finale] OT: works in octaves, unison etc.

2007-05-15 Thread shirling & neueweise


depending on how restricted your approach to unison is:

- scelsi's quattro pezzi, 4 movements each on a single note;
- i wrote a piece for fl-ob-cl, wind trio on E, using only E6 mostly 
fff... with ornamental "accidents" that break off from it whenever 
the players need to breathe.


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Re: [Finale] OT: works in octaves, unison etc.

2007-05-15 Thread Raymond Horton
The Aria is "The People the Walked in Darkness," in part one of  
_Messiah_.  It is mostly octaves, with harmony at the cadences and some 
contrasting phrases.  Much use of only octaves, which is quite unusual 
and effective for the text. 

(I confess to having sung this at solo contest in high school.  It's 
much less effective with only piano). 


Raymond Horton
Bass Trombonist
Louisville Orchestra


dhbailey wrote:
Is that really *entirely* in octaves or unisons?  The orchestra is 
only playing octaves/unisons?


David H. Bailey


Aaron Rabushka wrote:
One of the basso arias in Handel's Messiah, something about "the 
valley of

death..."

Aaron J. Rabushka
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Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 9:49 PM
Subject: [Finale] OT: works in octaves, unison etc.



Dear listers,

A quick q to the wisdom of this list.  I am looking for any works or
movts. of works for more than one instrument that are constructed
entirely in unisons or octaves.  Obviously there is the Qt. for the End
of Time mvt., and less obviously I've done one myself (fun to write if
you've not tried it!). Can anyone suggest others?

TIA

Matthew
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Re: [Finale] OT: works in octaves, unison etc.

2007-05-15 Thread Barbara Touburg
Wouldn't many Baroque bass arias more or less be in unison or octaves 
with the b.c.?


Raymond Horton wrote:
The Aria is "The People the Walked in Darkness," in part one of  
_Messiah_.  It is mostly octaves, with harmony at the cadences and some 
contrasting phrases.  Much use of only octaves, which is quite unusual 
and effective for the text.
(I confess to having sung this at solo contest in high school.  It's 
much less effective with only piano).

Raymond Horton
Bass Trombonist
Louisville Orchestra



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Re: [Finale] OT: works in octaves, unison etc.

2007-05-15 Thread Raymond Horton

Barbara Touburg wrote:

Wouldn't many Baroque bass arias more or less be in unison or octaves 
with the b.c.?


...

Hmm, not really my area of expertise - and I didn't bring this one up (I 
was adding the correct title and what I know about it), but:



I don't recall hearing any others as sparse as this one - I would 
imagine most have some other texture going on, even if the voice is 
doubling the bass.



Just my 1 cent worth.


RBH




Raymond Horton wrote:
The Aria is "The People the Walked in Darkness," in part one of  
_Messiah_.  It is mostly octaves, with harmony at the cadences and 
some contrasting phrases.  Much use of only octaves, which is quite 
unusual and effective for the text.
(I confess to having sung this at solo contest in high school.  It's 
much less effective with only piano).

Raymond Horton
Bass Trombonist
Louisville Orchestra



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Re: [Finale] OT: works in octaves, unison etc.

2007-05-15 Thread David W. Fenton
On 15 May 2007 at 20:53, Barbara Touburg wrote:

> Wouldn't many Baroque bass arias more or less be in unison or octaves
> with the b.c.?

Eh? No, of course not. The bass has a melody line, and it's 
accompanied by a bass line that is played and harmonized by the 
continuo group. The thing that is out of the ordinary about "The 
people that walked in darkness" is that bass line is the in unison or 
octave with the  violin line and the melody line sung by the bass. 
This is not the most unusual texture in baroque music, but it's not 
nearly as ubiquitous as your question would suggest.

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Re: [Finale] OT: works in octaves, unison etc.

2007-05-15 Thread Aaron Rabushka
For what it's worth, Manfred Bukofzer mentions _arie all'unisono_ as
somewhat common during some parts of the baroque era. I don't know any off
hand except for the Handel that I mentoined earlier.

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Re: [Finale] OT: works in octaves, unison etc.

2007-05-16 Thread Andrew Stiller


There is an orchestral work, _Le Méditation de Purun Baghat_, by 
Koechlin that I have not heard but that has been described as "a strict 
monody," which I assume means unison throughout.


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Re: [Finale] OT: works in octaves, unison etc.

2007-05-16 Thread Mariposa Symphony Orchestra
Koechlin's "Le Méditation de Purun Baghat" begins with a unison statement of a 
very rambling tune over pedal points but then throws a subtle interweaving of 
countermelodies/parallel intervals into the mix fairly soon.Returns to 
(accompanied) monody by the end. Cool work; I've always found Koechlin's 
music to be pretty much an acquired taste, but well worth the effort.

Someone earlier in this thread (apologies for forgetting who) mentioned a 
composer I respect greatly and work of his I hold in high esteem: Enesco's 
Premiere Suite Pour Orchestre (op. 9) begins with a Prélude à l'unisson.And 
I remember from my very first listening my astonishment at how far and long he 
pushes the envelope in presenting an unaccompanied tune, non-repetitive, in 
unison.and manages great tension in so doing. And that sense of wonder 
still holds when I listen to the piece to this day. Really intriguing work. 
   And yes: simply a string unison for the entire movement - with NOTHING other 
than a pedal timp roll rooting the work near the end of the 8 - 10 minute 
movement.   Absolutely fascinating.   The rest of the suite actually seems 
a little anticlimactic after this spellbinding, audacious first movement.He 
was only 21 when he composed the piece in 1903, which probably explains a 
lot.

Best,

Les

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  There is an orchestral work, _Le Méditation de Purun Baghat_, by 
  Koechlin that I have not heard but that has been described as "a strict 
  monody," which I assume means unison throughout.

  Andrew Stiller
  Kallisti Music Press
  http://www.kallistimusic.com/


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