[Finale] OT: works in octaves, unison etc.
Dear listers, A quick q to the wisdom of this list. I am looking for any works or movts. of works for more than one instrument that are constructed entirely in unisons or octaves. Obviously there is the Qt. for the End of Time mvt., and less obviously I've done one myself (fun to write if you've not tried it!). Can anyone suggest others? TIA Matthew ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: works in octaves, unison etc.
At 11:49 AM 5/15/2007 +1000, Matthew Hindson fastmail acct wrote: >A quick q to the wisdom of this list. I am looking for any works or >movts. of works for more than one instrument that are constructed >entirely in unisons or octaves. Obviously there is the Qt. for the End >of Time mvt., and less obviously I've done one myself (fun to write if >you've not tried it!). Can anyone suggest others? If memory serves (don't count on it!) one or more of Carter's Eight Etudes are in unisons and octaves. And the last movement of my Eventide (piccolo, Eb clarinet,contrabassoon) is in octaves. Then, of course, canons are in octaves or unisons -- just shifted in time. :) Dennis . ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: works in octaves, unison etc.
Pretty much any bebop head, but that's probably not what you had in mind. Cheers, - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 14 May 2007, at 9:49 PM, Matthew Hindson fastmail acct wrote: Dear listers, A quick q to the wisdom of this list. I am looking for any works or movts. of works for more than one instrument that are constructed entirely in unisons or octaves. Obviously there is the Qt. for the End of Time mvt., and less obviously I've done one myself (fun to write if you've not tried it!). Can anyone suggest others? TIA Matthew ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: works in octaves, unison etc.
On May 14, 2007, at 6:49 PM, Matthew Hindson fastmail acct wrote: A quick q to the wisdom of this list. I am looking for any works or movts. of works for more than one instrument that are constructed entirely in unisons or octaves. Obviously there is the Qt. for the End of Time mvt., and less obviously I've done one myself (fun to write if you've not tried it!). Can anyone suggest others? I'm not sure that I'm understanding your question, but if I am, two examples from the vocal repertoire would be the duet of the two men in armor from Mozart's Zauberflöte and the Agnus Dei from Verdi's requiem. (Though I've heard performances of the latter that made me wonder if Verdi was anticipating Stravinsky's use of parallel major sevenths) mdl ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: works in octaves, unison etc.
One of the basso arias in Handel's Messiah, something about "the valley of death..." Aaron J. Rabushka [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://users.waymark.net/arabushk - Original Message - From: "Matthew Hindson fastmail acct" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 9:49 PM Subject: [Finale] OT: works in octaves, unison etc. > Dear listers, > > A quick q to the wisdom of this list. I am looking for any works or > movts. of works for more than one instrument that are constructed > entirely in unisons or octaves. Obviously there is the Qt. for the End > of Time mvt., and less obviously I've done one myself (fun to write if > you've not tried it!). Can anyone suggest others? > > TIA > > Matthew > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: works in octaves, unison etc.
Is that really *entirely* in octaves or unisons? The orchestra is only playing octaves/unisons? David H. Bailey Aaron Rabushka wrote: One of the basso arias in Handel's Messiah, something about "the valley of death..." Aaron J. Rabushka [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://users.waymark.net/arabushk - Original Message - From: "Matthew Hindson fastmail acct" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 9:49 PM Subject: [Finale] OT: works in octaves, unison etc. Dear listers, A quick q to the wisdom of this list. I am looking for any works or movts. of works for more than one instrument that are constructed entirely in unisons or octaves. Obviously there is the Qt. for the End of Time mvt., and less obviously I've done one myself (fun to write if you've not tried it!). Can anyone suggest others? TIA Matthew ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: works in octaves, unison etc.
I know there is Enescu's Preludio à lunison for Orchestra, but confess to never hearing it. Dr.A.S.Weinstangel [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Matthew Hindson fastmail acct" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 9:49 PM Subject: [Finale] OT: works in octaves, unison etc. > Dear listers, > > A quick q to the wisdom of this list. I am looking for any works or > movts. of works for more than one instrument that are constructed > entirely in unisons or octaves. Obviously there is the Qt. for the End > of Time mvt., and less obviously I've done one myself (fun to write if > you've not tried it!). Can anyone suggest others? > > TIA > > Matthew > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale _ See Fireworks On Live Image Search http://search.live.com/images/results.aspx?q=Fireworks&mkt=en-ca&FORM=SERNEP ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: works in octaves, unison etc.
I don't know if this is what you are looking for, however, I wrote a work back in 1989 based on the model of the DNA molecule as it is spinning. The work, entitled "3.4/20/34 Angstrom", is 6 1/2 minutes long, for string quartet work and is atonal. There are two movements (one for each half of the molecule). The parallel movements between the instruments move from clashing intervals such as major 7ths to octaves and back. Let me know if you would like to take a look at the score. Nick Raspa -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Mon, 14 May 2007 8:49 PM Subject: [Finale] OT: works in octaves, unison etc. Dear listers, A quick q to the wisdom of this list. I am looking for any works or movts. of works for more than one instrument that are constructed entirely in unisons or octaves. Obviously there is the Qt. for the End of Time mvt., and less obviously I've done one myself (fun to write if you've not tried it!). Can anyone suggest others? TIA Matthew ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. =0 ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: works in octaves, unison etc.
depending on how restricted your approach to unison is: - scelsi's quattro pezzi, 4 movements each on a single note; - i wrote a piece for fl-ob-cl, wind trio on E, using only E6 mostly fff... with ornamental "accidents" that break off from it whenever the players need to breathe. -- shirling & neueweise ... new music publishers mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :.../ http://newmusicnotation.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: works in octaves, unison etc.
The Aria is "The People the Walked in Darkness," in part one of _Messiah_. It is mostly octaves, with harmony at the cadences and some contrasting phrases. Much use of only octaves, which is quite unusual and effective for the text. (I confess to having sung this at solo contest in high school. It's much less effective with only piano). Raymond Horton Bass Trombonist Louisville Orchestra dhbailey wrote: Is that really *entirely* in octaves or unisons? The orchestra is only playing octaves/unisons? David H. Bailey Aaron Rabushka wrote: One of the basso arias in Handel's Messiah, something about "the valley of death..." Aaron J. Rabushka [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://users.waymark.net/arabushk - Original Message - From: "Matthew Hindson fastmail acct" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 9:49 PM Subject: [Finale] OT: works in octaves, unison etc. Dear listers, A quick q to the wisdom of this list. I am looking for any works or movts. of works for more than one instrument that are constructed entirely in unisons or octaves. Obviously there is the Qt. for the End of Time mvt., and less obviously I've done one myself (fun to write if you've not tried it!). Can anyone suggest others? TIA Matthew ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: works in octaves, unison etc.
Wouldn't many Baroque bass arias more or less be in unison or octaves with the b.c.? Raymond Horton wrote: The Aria is "The People the Walked in Darkness," in part one of _Messiah_. It is mostly octaves, with harmony at the cadences and some contrasting phrases. Much use of only octaves, which is quite unusual and effective for the text. (I confess to having sung this at solo contest in high school. It's much less effective with only piano). Raymond Horton Bass Trombonist Louisville Orchestra ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: works in octaves, unison etc.
Barbara Touburg wrote: Wouldn't many Baroque bass arias more or less be in unison or octaves with the b.c.? ... Hmm, not really my area of expertise - and I didn't bring this one up (I was adding the correct title and what I know about it), but: I don't recall hearing any others as sparse as this one - I would imagine most have some other texture going on, even if the voice is doubling the bass. Just my 1 cent worth. RBH Raymond Horton wrote: The Aria is "The People the Walked in Darkness," in part one of _Messiah_. It is mostly octaves, with harmony at the cadences and some contrasting phrases. Much use of only octaves, which is quite unusual and effective for the text. (I confess to having sung this at solo contest in high school. It's much less effective with only piano). Raymond Horton Bass Trombonist Louisville Orchestra ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: works in octaves, unison etc.
On 15 May 2007 at 20:53, Barbara Touburg wrote: > Wouldn't many Baroque bass arias more or less be in unison or octaves > with the b.c.? Eh? No, of course not. The bass has a melody line, and it's accompanied by a bass line that is played and harmonized by the continuo group. The thing that is out of the ordinary about "The people that walked in darkness" is that bass line is the in unison or octave with the violin line and the melody line sung by the bass. This is not the most unusual texture in baroque music, but it's not nearly as ubiquitous as your question would suggest. -- David W. Fentonhttp://dfenton.com David Fenton Associates http://dfenton.com/DFA/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: works in octaves, unison etc.
For what it's worth, Manfred Bukofzer mentions _arie all'unisono_ as somewhat common during some parts of the baroque era. I don't know any off hand except for the Handel that I mentoined earlier. Aaron J. Rabushka [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://users.waymark.net/arabushk ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: works in octaves, unison etc.
There is an orchestral work, _Le Méditation de Purun Baghat_, by Koechlin that I have not heard but that has been described as "a strict monody," which I assume means unison throughout. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://www.kallistimusic.com/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
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Koechlin's "Le Méditation de Purun Baghat" begins with a unison statement of a very rambling tune over pedal points but then throws a subtle interweaving of countermelodies/parallel intervals into the mix fairly soon.Returns to (accompanied) monody by the end. Cool work; I've always found Koechlin's music to be pretty much an acquired taste, but well worth the effort. Someone earlier in this thread (apologies for forgetting who) mentioned a composer I respect greatly and work of his I hold in high esteem: Enesco's Premiere Suite Pour Orchestre (op. 9) begins with a Prélude à l'unisson.And I remember from my very first listening my astonishment at how far and long he pushes the envelope in presenting an unaccompanied tune, non-repetitive, in unison.and manages great tension in so doing. And that sense of wonder still holds when I listen to the piece to this day. Really intriguing work. And yes: simply a string unison for the entire movement - with NOTHING other than a pedal timp roll rooting the work near the end of the 8 - 10 minute movement. Absolutely fascinating. The rest of the suite actually seems a little anticlimactic after this spellbinding, audacious first movement.He was only 21 when he composed the piece in 1903, which probably explains a lot. Best, Les Les Marsden Founding Music Director and Conductor, The Mariposa Symphony Orchestra Music and Mariposa? Ah, Paradise!!! http://arts-mariposa.org/symphony.html http://www.geocities.com/~jbenz/lesbio.html - Original Message - From: Andrew Stiller To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 9:39 AM Subject: Re: [Finale] OT: works in octaves, unison etc. There is an orchestral work, _Le Méditation de Purun Baghat_, by Koechlin that I have not heard but that has been described as "a strict monody," which I assume means unison throughout. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://www.kallistimusic.com/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale