Re: [Finale] Polychord Symbol

2018-08-11 Thread William Huber
My thanks to all who replied to my question. I now have a “fightin’ chance” of 
writing what the composer wishes!  :-)

Gratefully,

Bill Huber
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Re: [Finale] Polychord Symbol

2018-08-10 Thread j...@thomastudios.com
One possible view on this would be to attempt to provide a chord symbol that 
starts to approach a specific voicing, which a polychord attempts to achieve.  
Kind of like writing Bb/G instead of Gm7.  This tries to have a triad over an 
alternate bass note instead of some hooved-animal player mashing down a 4-part 
voicing that might not be what is intended.  It’s not a cure-all, and a tad 
anal, but it does attempt to go in a specific direction, IYKWIM.  I have done 
this on rare occasions in the past and it’s a small bit of insurance if you 
don’t know your players.

Writing Ab13(b9)/C leaves the player to muck things up dramatically since it’s 
a somewhat complicated chord symbol with lots of voicing possibilities.

Just my 2¢

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> On Aug 10, 2018, at 12:45 PM, Chris Bell  wrote:
> 
> My first thought was, why not write the chord as Ab13(b9)?
> 
> / C
> 
> On Aug 10, 2018, at 7:28 PM, William Huber wrote:
> 
>> Dear All,
>> 
>> I need to enter a polychord symbol into a score and parts. The polychord is 
>> an F over an Ab7. I want to show the polychord with the F directly over the 
>> Ab7 with a horizontal line between them. (I use a slash mark to depict 
>> chords with an alternate bass note.)
>> 
>> I am using manual input for the chord symbols, typing in the following: 
>> “F_Ab7”.  But when I move to the next chord, Finale removes the “7” so that 
>> all I get is an “F/Ab”. My hope is to have just a chord symbol rather than a 
>> chord symbol with a “7” added as either an expression or text file. I am 
>> using Finale 2014.5 for this file, running Mac OS 10.11.6. 
>> 
>> All help is gratefully accepted.
>> 
>> With Thanks in advance,
>> 
>> Bill Huber
>> Nashville, TN
>> Finale List Digest Subscriber
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Re: [Finale] Polychord Symbol

2018-08-10 Thread Chris Bell
My first thought was, why not write the chord as Ab13(b9)?

/ C

On Aug 10, 2018, at 7:28 PM, William Huber wrote:

> Dear All,
> 
> I need to enter a polychord symbol into a score and parts. The polychord is 
> an F over an Ab7. I want to show the polychord with the F directly over the 
> Ab7 with a horizontal line between them. (I use a slash mark to depict chords 
> with an alternate bass note.)
> 
> I am using manual input for the chord symbols, typing in the following: 
> “F_Ab7”.  But when I move to the next chord, Finale removes the “7” so that 
> all I get is an “F/Ab”. My hope is to have just a chord symbol rather than a 
> chord symbol with a “7” added as either an expression or text file. I am 
> using Finale 2014.5 for this file, running Mac OS 10.11.6. 
> 
> All help is gratefully accepted.
> 
> With Thanks in advance,
> 
> Bill Huber
> Nashville, TN
> Finale List Digest Subscriber
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Re: [Finale] Polychord Symbol

2018-08-10 Thread Christopher Smith
Yes, that is a bug… darn it, I mean a lack of function.

There are a number of kludges to deal with this.

My favourite is to enter F over Ab without the 7. Then enter ON THE SAME BEAT 
enter an Ab7, and at 400% zoom, carefully drag it into position over the 
existing Ab. This may seem odd, but it will perfectly match all the other poly 
chords in your piece, and will play back properly, too (I turn off chord 
playback myself, since I can’t stand the ham-fisted way Finale plays them back, 
but this is important to some people).

Some other people enter F over Ab and add the 7 as an expression. Some others 
enter F and Ab7 separately on the same beat, drag them into position and add 
the line as an expression. Others enter Ab7 and enter both the F and the line 
as expressions. Too fiddly and too much to screw up in those versions for me, 
but you might find them useful.

Christopher


> On Aug 10, 2018, at 1:28 PM, William Huber  wrote:
> 
> Dear All,
> 
> I need to enter a polychord symbol into a score and parts. The polychord is 
> an F over an Ab7. I want to show the polychord with the F directly over the 
> Ab7 with a horizontal line between them. (I use a slash mark to depict chords 
> with an alternate bass note.)
> 
> I am using manual input for the chord symbols, typing in the following: 
> “F_Ab7”.  But when I move to the next chord, Finale removes the “7” so that 
> all I get is an “F/Ab”. My hope is to have just a chord symbol rather than a 
> chord symbol with a “7” added as either an expression or text file. I am 
> using Finale 2014.5 for this file, running Mac OS 10.11.6. 
> 
> All help is gratefully accepted.
> 
> With Thanks in advance,
> 
> Bill Huber
> Nashville, TN
> Finale List Digest Subscriber
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Re: [Finale] Polychord Symbol

2018-08-10 Thread j...@thomastudios.com
The selections you’re looking for is in the Chord Definition dialog.  Select 
Alternate Bass in the middle of the dialog and underneath that a popup menu 
will then be available.  Select Under Root.  Don’t worry that Finale calls it 
an alternate bass; it’s semantics.


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> On Aug 10, 2018, at 10:28 AM, William Huber  wrote:
> 
> Dear All,
> 
> I need to enter a polychord symbol into a score and parts. The polychord is 
> an F over an Ab7. I want to show the polychord with the F directly over the 
> Ab7 with a horizontal line between them. (I use a slash mark to depict chords 
> with an alternate bass note.)
> 
> I am using manual input for the chord symbols, typing in the following: 
> “F_Ab7”.  But when I move to the next chord, Finale removes the “7” so that 
> all I get is an “F/Ab”. My hope is to have just a chord symbol rather than a 
> chord symbol with a “7” added as either an expression or text file. I am 
> using Finale 2014.5 for this file, running Mac OS 10.11.6. 
> 
> All help is gratefully accepted.
> 
> With Thanks in advance,
> 
> Bill Huber
> Nashville, TN
> Finale List Digest Subscriber
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[Finale] Polychord Symbol

2018-08-10 Thread William Huber
Dear All,

I need to enter a polychord symbol into a score and parts. The polychord is an 
F over an Ab7. I want to show the polychord with the F directly over the Ab7 
with a horizontal line between them. (I use a slash mark to depict chords with 
an alternate bass note.)

 I am using manual input for the chord symbols, typing in the following: 
“F_Ab7”.  But when I move to the next chord, Finale removes the “7” so that all 
I get is an “F/Ab”. My hope is to have just a chord symbol rather than a chord 
symbol with a “7” added as either an expression or text file. I am using Finale 
2014.5 for this file, running Mac OS 10.11.6. 

All help is gratefully accepted.

With Thanks in advance,

Bill Huber
Nashville, TN
Finale List Digest Subscriber
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