[Finale] Size Matters

2007-08-22 Thread Bruce E. Clausen
Another interesting problem.  WinFin06.  I'm beggining to work with a score in 
Page View, after entering the parts in Scroll.  I'm attempting to find the best 
size for the score on the page, working with % tool.  At 100% all is well, but 
the score is too small for the page.  When I enlarge to 125% the first dozen or 
so pages are fine, but the last 20 (original) pages of the score now show up in 
one measure pages (one mm. to a page) ballooning the score to over 250 pages!  
I've removed all optimizing, page locks, etc., but the problem persists.  When 
I reset the size to 100%, the pages return to the normal number.  Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance.

Bruce E. Clausen
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RE: [Finale] Size Matters

2007-08-22 Thread Williams, Jim
I trust you updated layout?



From: Bruce E. Clausen
Sent: Wed 22-Aug-07 21:48
To: Finale
Subject: [Finale] Size Matters


Another interesting problem.  WinFin06.  I'm beggining to work with a score in 
Page View, after entering the parts in Scroll.  I'm attempting to find the best 
size for the score on the page, working with % tool.  At 100% all is well, but 
the score is too small for the page.  When I enlarge to 125% the first dozen or 
so pages are fine, but the last 20 (original) pages of the score now show up in 
one measure pages (one mm. to a page) ballooning the score to over 250 pages!  
I've removed all optimizing, page locks, etc., but the problem persists.  When 
I reset the size to 100%, the pages return to the normal number.  Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance.

Bruce E. Clausen
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Re: [Finale] Size Matters

2007-08-22 Thread Christopher Smith


On Aug 22, 2007, at 9:48 PM, Bruce E. Clausen wrote:

Another interesting problem.  WinFin06.  I'm beggining to work with  
a score in Page View, after entering the parts in Scroll.  I'm  
attempting to find the best size for the score on the page, working  
with % tool.  At 100% all is well, but the score is too small for  
the page.  When I enlarge to 125% the first dozen or so pages are  
fine, but the last 20 (original) pages of the score now show up in  
one measure pages (one mm. to a page) ballooning the score to over  
250 pages!  I've removed all optimizing, page locks, etc., but the  
problem persists.  When I reset the size to 100%, the pages return  
to the normal number.  Any thoughts?



Make sure System Locks are off (you didn't mention them), respace if  
necessary, then Update Layout, while on an earlier page (because  
Update Layout only applies to the page you are on until the end.)  
Update Layout occurs automatically by default, but sometimes you need  
to do it.


Christopher


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Re: [Finale] Size Matters

2007-08-22 Thread Carolyn Bremer
update layout?

-Carolyn

On 8/22/07, Bruce E. Clausen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Another interesting problem.  WinFin06.  I'm beggining to work with a score 
 in Page View, after entering the parts in Scroll.  I'm attempting to find the 
 best size for the score on the page, working with % tool.  At 100% all is 
 well, but the score is too small for the page.  When I enlarge to 125% the 
 first dozen or so pages are fine, but the last 20 (original) pages of the 
 score now show up in one measure pages (one mm. to a page) ballooning the 
 score to over 250 pages!  I've removed all optimizing, page locks, etc., but 
 the problem persists.  When I reset the size to 100%, the pages return to the 
 normal number.  Any thoughts?

 Thanks in advance.

 Bruce E. Clausen
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Re: [Finale] Size Matters

2007-08-22 Thread Darcy James Argue
Remove system locks, then update layout. Update layout alone won't  
fix it.


- Darcy
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On 22 Aug 2007, at 9:48 PM, Bruce E. Clausen wrote:

Another interesting problem.  WinFin06.  I'm beggining to work with  
a score in Page View, after entering the parts in Scroll.  I'm  
attempting to find the best size for the score on the page, working  
with % tool.  At 100% all is well, but the score is too small for  
the page.  When I enlarge to 125% the first dozen or so pages are  
fine, but the last 20 (original) pages of the score now show up in  
one measure pages (one mm. to a page) ballooning the score to over  
250 pages!  I've removed all optimizing, page locks, etc., but the  
problem persists.  When I reset the size to 100%, the pages return  
to the normal number.  Any thoughts?


Thanks in advance.

Bruce E. Clausen
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Re: [Finale] Size Matters

2007-08-22 Thread Bruce E. Clausen
Thanks, everyone.  I had removed system locks and updated layout (from page 
1), which I should have mentioned.  I redid both processes to confirm that I 
had done them before and the problem persists.


Signed,
Perplexed in Palm Springs (Bruce Clausen)


- Original Message - 
From: Darcy James Argue [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: finale@shsu.edu
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Finale] Size Matters


Remove system locks, then update layout. Update layout alone won't  fix 
it.


- Darcy
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Brooklyn, NY



On 22 Aug 2007, at 9:48 PM, Bruce E. Clausen wrote:

Another interesting problem.  WinFin06.  I'm beggining to work with  a 
score in Page View, after entering the parts in Scroll.  I'm  attempting 
to find the best size for the score on the page, working  with % tool. 
At 100% all is well, but the score is too small for  the page.  When I 
enlarge to 125% the first dozen or so pages are  fine, but the last 20 
(original) pages of the score now show up in  one measure pages (one mm. 
to a page) ballooning the score to over  250 pages!  I've removed all 
optimizing, page locks, etc., but the  problem persists.  When I reset 
the size to 100%, the pages return  to the normal number.  Any thoughts?


Thanks in advance.

Bruce E. Clausen
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Re: [Finale] Size Matters

2007-08-22 Thread Andrew Stiller

Bruce E. Clausen wrote:

  I'm attempting to find the best size for the score on the page, 
working with % tool.  At 100% all is well, but the score is too small 
for the page


To which I reply (not actually a quotation):

100% is much too *large* for anything except children's teaching 
materials and music for the visually impaired. I normally use 80% for 
performance materials (i.e., extracted parts) but many folks use 75%. 
For scores my default is likewise 80%, but I almost always have to 
make it smaller, sometimes down to 60%


Andrew Stiller
Kallisti Music Press
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Re: [Finale] Size Matters

2007-08-22 Thread Don Hart
Or shift/update layout (on a mac) will do it in one swoop, I believe. - Don
Hart


 Remove system locks, then update layout. Update layout alone won't
 fix it.
 
 - Darcy
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Brooklyn, NY
 
 
 
 On 22 Aug 2007, at 9:48 PM, Bruce E. Clausen wrote:
 
 Another interesting problem.  WinFin06.  I'm beggining to work with
 a score in Page View, after entering the parts in Scroll.  I'm
 attempting to find the best size for the score on the page, working
 with % tool.  At 100% all is well, but the score is too small for
 the page.  When I enlarge to 125% the first dozen or so pages are
 fine, but the last 20 (original) pages of the score now show up in
 one measure pages (one mm. to a page) ballooning the score to over
 250 pages!  I've removed all optimizing, page locks, etc., but the
 problem persists.  When I reset the size to 100%, the pages return
 to the normal number.  Any thoughts?
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 Bruce E. Clausen
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Re: [Finale] Size Matters

2007-08-22 Thread Christopher Smith
Is it possible that there is so much music in the measures that  
normal spacing fills an entire line? I know that sometimes I put the  
lyric through onto a sixteenth note and that causes the whole  
measure to expand.


If you had to, you could select a measure in Mass Edit  and hit the  
up arrow to force it onto the previous system. I often manually lay  
out pages like this.


Send me the file privately and I'll take a look, if all else fails.

Christopher


On Aug 22, 2007, at 11:30 PM, Bruce E. Clausen wrote:

Thanks, everyone.  I had removed system locks and updated layout  
(from page 1), which I should have mentioned.  I redid both  
processes to confirm that I had done them before and the problem  
persists.


Signed,
Perplexed in Palm Springs (Bruce Clausen)


- Original Message - From: Darcy James Argue  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: finale@shsu.edu
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Finale] Size Matters


Remove system locks, then update layout. Update layout alone  
won't  fix it.


- Darcy
-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Brooklyn, NY



On 22 Aug 2007, at 9:48 PM, Bruce E. Clausen wrote:

Another interesting problem.  WinFin06.  I'm beggining to work  
with  a score in Page View, after entering the parts in Scroll.   
I'm  attempting to find the best size for the score on the page,  
working  with % tool. At 100% all is well, but the score is too  
small for  the page.  When I enlarge to 125% the first dozen or  
so pages are  fine, but the last 20 (original) pages of the score  
now show up in  one measure pages (one mm. to a page) ballooning  
the score to over  250 pages!  I've removed all optimizing, page  
locks, etc., but the  problem persists.  When I reset the size to  
100%, the pages return  to the normal number.  Any thoughts?


Thanks in advance.

Bruce E. Clausen
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Re: [Finale] Size Matters

2007-08-22 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Don Hart / 2007/08/22 / 11:19 PM wrote:

Or shift/update layout (on a mac) will do it in one swoop, I believe. - Don
Hart

OK, this just got me.
Force update used to be Opt+Update long time ago, and I have been
wondering what happen to it.  It is now Shift+Update?  I don't
understand.  In Mac GUI, Opt will modify menu item by its Guideline. 
Shift key has no function for that.

I often question why Finale has to change key command on every upgrade
path.  This one is especially illogical to me.

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