Re: [Finale] Transparent boxes

2005-07-08 Thread David W. Fenton
On 8 Jul 2005 at 6:19, Owain Sutton wrote:

 David W. Fenton wrote:
 
  Seems to me the problem is not docking your toolbars, not the lack
  of transparency. Why not dock the palettes at the edge of the
  screen, as in my Finale in this screenshot?
  
http://dfenton.com/Toolbars.gif
 
 I only set up that layout to show the transparency option at work -
 normally I have all my toolbars floating on a second monitor

I understood you to say that transparency somehow ameliorated 
problems associated with wandering toolbars. I'm just pointing out 
that there is no problem involved, as toolbars don't have to wander.

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Re: [Finale] Transparent boxes

2005-07-08 Thread Owain Sutton



David W. Fenton wrote:

On 8 Jul 2005 at 6:19, Owain Sutton wrote:



David W. Fenton wrote:



Seems to me the problem is not docking your toolbars, not the lack
of transparency. Why not dock the palettes at the edge of the
screen, as in my Finale in this screenshot?

 http://dfenton.com/Toolbars.gif


I only set up that layout to show the transparency option at work -
normally I have all my toolbars floating on a second monitor



I understood you to say that transparency somehow ameliorated 
problems associated with wandering toolbars. I'm just pointing out 
that there is no problem involved, as toolbars don't have to wander.




OK, I put that screenshot together ad hoc, to save giving you a 300kb 
one - here's my usual working layout: 
http://www.owainsutton.co.uk/images/trans1.jpg


This means my main (better-quality) monitor is dominated by the main 
Finale working area, while the toolbars are on the second monitor.  With 
this arrangement, having the toolbars translucent (once you know your 
way around them!) makes it easy to have other applications running 
maximised on that monitor - here it's Thunderbird, but often it'll be 
IRC, or Acrobat, or Pagemaker, or whatever.  If those toolbars were 
opaque, it'd make it more difficult to see the display of those 
applications without switching focus.


Obviously, not everyone wants or needs this function - but I find it 
very useful!

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[Finale] Transparent boxes

2005-07-07 Thread Richard Yates
 I thought Windows wasn't getting the useless transparent dialogs
 until Avalon, with the release of Longhorn.



No, on XP.  I mentioned it earlier, but it's so useful I'll do so again:
Power Menuy, http://www.veridicus.com/tummy/programming/powermenu/, puts
transparency options into the context menus of (almost) any window.

Example: http://www.owainsutton.co.uk/images/translucent.jpg

Well, I downloaded it, tried it, and looked at your example. I don't get it,
though. If there is stuff under the semitransparent box you can't read
either. It there is nothing under it, then it does not need to be
semitransparent. In your erxample one box covers only a bit of the title -
which you know anyway. The other one is hardly readable and it is over a
blank spot on a staff.

The 'always on top' feature could save a lot of time in resizing and
positioning windows though.

Richard Yates


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Re: [Finale] Transparent boxes

2005-07-07 Thread Owain Sutton



Richard Yates wrote:


Well, I downloaded it, tried it, and looked at your example. I don't get it,
though. If there is stuff under the semitransparent box you can't read
either. It there is nothing under it, then it does not need to be
semitransparent. In your erxample one box covers only a bit of the title -
which you know anyway. The other one is hardly readable and it is over a
blank spot on a staff.



Sure, it's not perfect - and a static screenshot isn't the best 
demonstration.  I find it very useful for general visualisation when 
moving acrpss parts in page view at 200%-plus zoom, compared to having 
opaque toolbars all over the place.




The 'always on top' feature could save a lot of time in resizing and
positioning windows though.



It certainly does!
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Re: [Finale] Transparent boxes

2005-07-07 Thread David W. Fenton
On 8 Jul 2005 at 1:21, Owain Sutton wrote:

 Richard Yates wrote:
 
  Well, I downloaded it, tried it, and looked at your example. I don't
  get it, though. If there is stuff under the semitransparent box you
  can't read either. It there is nothing under it, then it does not
  need to be semitransparent. In your erxample one box covers only a
  bit of the title - which you know anyway. The other one is hardly
  readable and it is over a blank spot on a staff.
 
 Sure, it's not perfect - and a static screenshot isn't the best 
 demonstration.  I find it very useful for general visualisation when
 moving acrpss parts in page view at 200%-plus zoom, compared to having
 opaque toolbars all over the place.

Seems to me the problem is not docking your toolbars, not the lack of 
transparency. Why not dock the palettes at the edge of the screen, as 
in my Finale in this screenshot?

  http://dfenton.com/Toolbars.gif

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David Fenton Associateshttp://www.bway.net/~dfassoc

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Re: [Finale] Transparent boxes

2005-07-07 Thread Owain Sutton



David W. Fenton wrote:



Seems to me the problem is not docking your toolbars, not the lack of 
transparency. Why not dock the palettes at the edge of the screen, as 
in my Finale in this screenshot?


  http://dfenton.com/Toolbars.gif



I only set up that layout to show the transparency option at work - 
normally I have all my toolbars floating on a second monitor

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