Re: [Finale] pdf booklets

2005-05-05 Thread Andrew Stiller
On May 3, 2005, at 2:56 PM, Robert Patterson wrote:
I think Johannes Gebauer mentioned CocoaBooklet. This is a free OSX 
utility that takes page-oriented PDFs and produces booklet-oriented 
PDFs from them, which you can then print directly with the free 
version of Adobe Reader or with Preview. I use CocoaBooklet all the 
time and recommend it highly.

If you have the Finale mus files, you can also print to a 
booklet-oriented PDF directly from Finale.

That's great to know (and thanks to everyone else who responded)--but 
having solved the booklet issue, how do I then print out the booklet 
2-up?

Andrew Stiller
Kallisti Music Press
http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/
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Re: [Finale] pdf booklets

2005-05-05 Thread Robert Patterson
When I say booklet-oriented, what I mean is that it is already 2-up in the pdf 
file. So there is no need for Adobe Reader to print 2-up. You just print 
straight to your large-format paper.

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 On May 3, 2005, at 2:56 PM, Robert Patterson wrote:
 
  I think Johannes Gebauer mentioned CocoaBooklet. This is a free OSX 
  utility that takes page-oriented PDFs and produces booklet-oriented 
  PDFs from them, which you can then print directly with the free 
  version of Adobe Reader or with Preview. I use CocoaBooklet all the 
  time and recommend it highly.
 
  If you have the Finale mus files, you can also print to a 
  booklet-oriented PDF directly from Finale.
 
 
 That's great to know (and thanks to everyone else who responded)--but 
 having solved the booklet issue, how do I then print out the booklet 
 2-up?
 
 Andrew Stiller
 Kallisti Music Press
 http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/
 
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Re: [Finale] pdf booklets

2005-05-03 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Andrew Stiller wrote:
I have FinMac 2K4, and I'm working w. a composer who uses FinMac 2K5. 
We had arranged that he would make pdf files of his scores, which I 
can read and print w. Acrobat Reader 6.0.1, but now we have hit a snag.

To make a choral octavo, my usual practice is to assign  the Finale 
page size to 7 x 8.5, then print 2-up as a staple-bound booklet on 
folded legal paper. 
OK, keeping in mind that I use WINfin, and there may be reasons that may 
not work on a MAC.  why not have your composer friend use the printing 
dialogs so that the ~.pdfs you receive are the composition printed 2 up 
landscape on 8-1/2 x 14 paper.  He may need to send the pages 
separately, but you can print the pdfs out, fold, and staple as you 
normally do.

Alternatively, you can download the Ghostscript / Ghostview utility for 
MAC, and have your friend download and install the driver for a 
postscript printer (such as the HP 5000).  He uses the printer dialog to 
set the composition for booklet printing, two-up on 8-1/2 x 14 paper in 
landscape format, and print to file.  He forwards to you the printer 
file, and you use Ghostscript  / Ghostview to take the ~.ps file, and 
convert that to a ~.pdf. 

Or, of course, he can download the Ghostscript / Ghostview utility, too, 
and do the conversion himself.

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Re: [Finale] pdf booklets

2005-05-03 Thread Johannes Gebauer
There are several little shareware applications which can make booklets 
out of single page pdfs, one is called CocoaBooklet. Look for them at 
versiontracker.

Otherwise create a printer driver which prints to a PS file and use 
Finale script to make your booklet.

Johannes
Andrew Stiller schrieb:
I have FinMac 2K4, and I'm working w. a composer who uses FinMac 2K5. We 
had arranged that he would make pdf files of his scores, which I can 
read and print w. Acrobat Reader 6.0.1, but now we have hit a snag.

To make a choral octavo, my usual practice is to assign  the Finale page 
size to 7 x 8.5, then print 2-up as a staple-bound booklet on folded 
legal paper.

The options for 2-up printing and for booklet printing (the page-range 
box) are in the Finale popup menu in the Print dialog, so I cannot 
execute them in Reader. There must be a way for the composer to embed  
these instructions in his pdf files, but neither of us has any idea how. 
I think he has the full Acrobat program, but I don't know what version. 
I have only the Reader.

Any advice?
Andrew Stiller
Kallisti Music Press
http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/
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Re: [Finale] pdf booklets

2005-05-03 Thread Godofredo Romero
I do what you want all the time, except that I do it in a larger size 
but the process is the same.
Here is the procedure: prepare what you are going to print in multiples 
of four, eight, sixteens,etc. even when your documents don't have the 
exact number of pages, that is, if you have a document with, say, six or 
seven pages, prepare it as if it had eight, leaving the rest of the 
pages in blank.
In the cases where the document has eight pages , which requires that 
you print four on each piece of paper ( two on each side) your numbering 
should be 8-1 on one side and 7-2 on the other side, the second piece 
of  paper should be numbered thus: 6-3 on one side and 4-5 on the other 
side (left to right on both cases, I clarify this because I don't know 
if you are from oriental  procedence where reading as well as counting 
is done from right to left) .
If you are going to print direct from Finale all you have to do is 
instruct the program to print according to the instructions given above. 
I take it you already know how to do this.
Now, if you are going to print your booklets from a PDF that's a 
different story because you need, number one the professional version of 
acrobat and number two an imposition program which is what is going to 
instruct Acrobat and the printer on how to distribute the pages 
according to the needed layout.
You can visit Planet PDF where you'll find different imposition programs 
to suit your needs.
Should this explanation be insufficient or not clear enough I will be 
glad to extend myself in the subject.
In the meantime I remain yours, truly.
GR

Andrew Stiller wrote:
I have FinMac 2K4, and I'm working w. a composer who uses FinMac 2K5. 
We had arranged that he would make pdf files of his scores, which I 
can read and print w. Acrobat Reader 6.0.1, but now we have hit a snag.

To make a choral octavo, my usual practice is to assign  the Finale 
page size to 7 x 8.5, then print 2-up as a staple-bound booklet on 
folded legal paper.

The options for 2-up printing and for booklet printing (the page-range 
box) are in the Finale popup menu in the Print dialog, so I cannot 
execute them in Reader. There must be a way for the composer to embed  
these instructions in his pdf files, but neither of us has any idea 
how. I think he has the full Acrobat program, but I don't know what 
version. I have only the Reader.

Any advice?
Andrew Stiller
Kallisti Music Press
http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/
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Re: [Finale] pdf booklets

2005-05-03 Thread Robert Patterson
I think Johannes Gebauer mentioned CocoaBooklet. This is a free OSX utility 
that takes page-oriented PDFs and produces booklet-oriented PDFs from them, 
which you can then print directly with the free version of Adobe Reader or with 
Preview. I use CocoaBooklet all the time and recommend it highly.

If you have the Finale mus files, you can also print to a booklet-oriented PDF 
directly from Finale.





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[Finale] pdf booklets

2005-05-02 Thread Andrew Stiller
I have FinMac 2K4, and I'm working w. a composer who uses FinMac 2K5. 
We had arranged that he would make pdf files of his scores, which I can 
read and print w. Acrobat Reader 6.0.1, but now we have hit a snag.

To make a choral octavo, my usual practice is to assign  the Finale 
page size to 7 x 8.5, then print 2-up as a staple-bound booklet on 
folded legal paper.

The options for 2-up printing and for booklet printing (the page-range 
box) are in the Finale popup menu in the Print dialog, so I cannot 
execute them in Reader. There must be a way for the composer to embed  
these instructions in his pdf files, but neither of us has any idea 
how. I think he has the full Acrobat program, but I don't know what 
version. I have only the Reader.

Any advice?
Andrew Stiller
Kallisti Music Press
http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/
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Re: [Finale] pdf booklets

2005-05-02 Thread Steve Gibons
Can't he just print preview the file the way it needs to be, and save 
as a version to send to you, Or have I missed something?

steve
On May 2, 2005, at 11:52 PM, Andrew Stiller wrote:
I have FinMac 2K4, and I'm working w. a composer who uses FinMac 2K5. 
We had arranged that he would make pdf files of his scores, which I 
can read and print w. Acrobat Reader 6.0.1, but now we have hit a 
snag.

To make a choral octavo, my usual practice is to assign  the Finale 
page size to 7 x 8.5, then print 2-up as a staple-bound booklet on 
folded legal paper.

The options for 2-up printing and for booklet printing (the page-range 
box) are in the Finale popup menu in the Print dialog, so I cannot 
execute them in Reader. There must be a way for the composer to embed  
these instructions in his pdf files, but neither of us has any idea 
how. I think he has the full Acrobat program, but I don't know what 
version. I have only the Reader.

Any advice?
Andrew Stiller
Kallisti Music Press
http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/
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