[Finale] transposing instrument question in Finale 2003a

2007-04-16 Thread Martin Banner
I am working on an edition of an 18th Century piece for men's choir, 
strings, oboes and horns in several movements. I am doing all four 
movements as a single file. The first two movements are in Bb major, 
with horns in Bb. Not a problem. However, the third movement is in Eb 
major, with horns in Eb. Is there a way to change the transposition for 
this third movement only, so that the horn part is written correctly 
(no sharps or flats in the key signature) and also sounds correct in 
playback? Of course, I want to be able to go back to horns in Bb for 
the final movement which is in Bb major.


Thanks,
Martin




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Re: [Finale] transposing instrument question in Finale 2003a

2007-04-16 Thread Darcy James Argue

Staff Styles.

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On 16 Apr 2007, at 11:36 AM, Martin Banner wrote:

I am working on an edition of an 18th Century piece for men's  
choir, strings, oboes and horns in several movements. I am doing  
all four movements as a single file. The first two movements are in  
Bb major, with horns in Bb. Not a problem. However, the third  
movement is in Eb major, with horns in Eb. Is there a way to change  
the transposition for this third movement only, so that the horn  
part is written correctly (no sharps or flats in the key signature)  
and also sounds correct in playback? Of course, I want to be able  
to go back to horns in Bb for the final movement which is in Bb major.


Thanks,
Martin




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Re: [Finale] transposing instrument question in Finale 2003a

2007-04-16 Thread Hans Swinnen
If Staff Styles not yet are available in Fin2k3, there's always a work 
around via Independent Key Sigs in the Staff Tool,


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On 16 apr 2007, at 17:36, Martin Banner wrote:

I am working on an edition of an 18th Century piece for men's choir, 
strings, oboes and horns in several movements. I am doing all four 
movements as a single file. The first two movements are in Bb major, 
with horns in Bb. Not a problem. However, the third movement is in Eb 
major, with horns in Eb. Is there a way to change the transposition 
for this third movement only, so that the horn part is written 
correctly (no sharps or flats in the key signature) and also sounds 
correct in playback? Of course, I want to be able to go back to horns 
in Bb for the final movement which is in Bb major.


Thanks,
Martin




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Re: [Finale] transposing instrument question in Finale 2003a

2007-04-16 Thread ThomaStudios

How about using a Staff Style.

J D  Thomas
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On Apr 16, 2007, at 8:36 AM, Martin Banner wrote:

I am working on an edition of an 18th Century piece for men's  
choir, strings, oboes and horns in several movements. I am doing  
all four movements as a single file. The first two movements are in  
Bb major, with horns in Bb. Not a problem. However, the third  
movement is in Eb major, with horns in Eb. Is there a way to change  
the transposition for this third movement only, so that the horn  
part is written correctly (no sharps or flats in the key signature)  
and also sounds correct in playback? Of course, I want to be able  
to go back to horns in Bb for the final movement which is in Bb major.


Thanks,
Martin




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Re: [Finale] transposing instrument question in Finale 2003a

2007-04-16 Thread David W. Fenton
On 16 Apr 2007 at 18:07, Hans Swinnen wrote:

 If Staff Styles not yet are available in Fin2k3

Staff Styles exist in Finale 2003.

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Re: [Finale] transposing instrument question in Finale 2003a

2007-04-16 Thread Martin Banner
Okay, I know where staff styles is located, and I've looked at it 
before, but I have no idea how to use it (specifically) to get done 
what I need to get done.


Martin



On Apr 16, 2007, at 12:17 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:


Staff Styles.

Cheers,

- Darcy
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Brooklyn, NY



On 16 Apr 2007, at 11:36 AM, Martin Banner wrote:

I am working on an edition of an 18th Century piece for men's choir, 
strings, oboes and horns in several movements. I am doing all four 
movements as a single file. The first two movements are in Bb major, 
with horns in Bb. Not a problem. However, the third movement is in Eb 
major, with horns in Eb. Is there a way to change the transposition 
for this third movement only, so that the horn part is written 
correctly (no sharps or flats in the key signature) and also sounds 
correct in playback? Of course, I want to be able to go back to horns 
in Bb for the final movement which is in Bb major.


Thanks,
Martin




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Re: [Finale] transposing instrument question in Finale 2003a

2007-04-16 Thread Martin Banner
Okay folks, now that I know I need to use staff styles, anyone wanna 
walk me through step by step so I can accomplish what I need to? I 
looked at staff styles and honestly don't know how to accomplish 
transposing my horn parts that start out as Bb horns and change to Eb 
horns from measure 86-109 (at measure 110, the horns go back to 
becoming Bb horns).


Thanks for your help.

Martin



On Apr 16, 2007, at 12:43 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:


On 16 Apr 2007 at 18:07, Hans Swinnen wrote:


If Staff Styles not yet are available in Fin2k3


Staff Styles exist in Finale 2003.

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Re: [Finale] transposing instrument question in Finale 2003a

2007-04-16 Thread Marvin Rosenthal
Martin...

What you want to do is available in 2003.r2...

Highlight the bars you want to transpose, go to staff
styles, apply staff styles and scroll down until you
see the transposition you want...  Click on it and it
should change the key...

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--- Martin Banner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Okay, I know where staff styles is located, and I've
 looked at it 
 before, but I have no idea how to use it
 (specifically) to get done 
 what I need to get done.
 
 Martin
 
 
 
 On Apr 16, 2007, at 12:17 PM, Darcy James Argue
 wrote:
 
  Staff Styles.
 
  Cheers,
 
  - Darcy
  -
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Brooklyn, NY
 
 
 
  On 16 Apr 2007, at 11:36 AM, Martin Banner wrote:
 
  I am working on an edition of an 18th Century
 piece for men's choir, 
  strings, oboes and horns in several movements. I
 am doing all four 
  movements as a single file. The first two
 movements are in Bb major, 
  with horns in Bb. Not a problem. However, the
 third movement is in Eb 
  major, with horns in Eb. Is there a way to change
 the transposition 
  for this third movement only, so that the horn
 part is written 
  correctly (no sharps or flats in the key
 signature) and also sounds 
  correct in playback? Of course, I want to be able
 to go back to horns 
  in Bb for the final movement which is in Bb
 major.
 
  Thanks,
  Martin
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Finale] transposing instrument question in Finale 2003a

2007-04-16 Thread dhbailey

Martin Banner wrote:
Okay folks, now that I know I need to use staff styles, anyone wanna 
walk me through step by step so I can accomplish what I need to? I 
looked at staff styles and honestly don't know how to accomplish 
transposing my horn parts that start out as Bb horns and change to Eb 
horns from measure 86-109 (at measure 110, the horns go back to becoming 
Bb horns).




You need to do the transposition to Eb.  Plain and simple.  Finale 
thinks of things in concert pitch and then converts from that to the 
transposition you want.


So define a new staff style and set the transposition to Eb (up a major 
6th), then once it's defined you select the measures you want that to 
apply to and then select Apply Staff Style from the Staff menu.  This 
transposition to Eb will overide your setting for the staff which 
transposes it to Bb.


The transposition will once again go back to Bb starting in the measure 
following the final measure you have assigned your new staff style to.


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