Re: [Finale] Bizarre playback
3) A tempo change (crotchet = 60 becomes crotchet = 90) only lasts about 1/2 bar before reverting to the previous tempo. When this happens to me, I use Jari Williamsson's JW Tempo plugin to force it to manually override the unpredictable vagaries. Matthew ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Bizarre playback
Il 22/12/2010 11.33, Michael Lawlor ha scritto: [Finale 2009] I am encountering a range of unexpected results from playback. I have tried VST instruments (with and without human playback) and normal MIDI, but all suffer from the same problems. 1) If I play from the beginning I hear all the parts, but if I start playback elsewhere, some parts do not sound. 2) Although dynamics are specified, some parts play more quietly than others (of the same kind: 6 oboes& 6 bassoons) and some get quieter. There has been a dim. a few bars earlier, but it should have been completed and a forte should be in effect. 3) A tempo change (crotchet = 60 becomes crotchet = 90) only lasts about 1/2 bar before reverting to the previous tempo. Any help would be appreciated. Michael Lawlor ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale As far as I know there is a corruption in MIDI data, I encountered that problem now and then in some files created with version 2006 (Windows). I had to re-create the interested measures to get rid of the problem. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] Bizarre playback
One thing you could try if you haven't already: Click on the speaker icon button on the Playback Controls toolbar, then on the Playback/Record Options button near the bottom of the panel. Check that you have Selected "Chase from First Measure" in the Dynamics and markings box. Hope it helps Peter -Original Message- > From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of > Michael Lawlor > Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 10:34 AM > To: finale@shsu.edu > Subject: [Finale] Bizarre playback > > [Finale 2009] > I am encountering a range of unexpected results from playback. I have tried > VST instruments (with and without human playback) and normal MIDI, but all > suffer from the same problems. > > 1) If I play from the beginning I hear all the parts, but if I start > playback elsewhere, some parts do not sound. > > 2) Although dynamics are specified, some parts play more quietly than others > (of the same kind: 6 oboes & 6 bassoons) and some get quieter. There has > been a dim. a few bars earlier, but it should have been completed and a forte > should be in effect. > > 3) A tempo change (crotchet = 60 becomes crotchet = 90) only lasts about 1/2 > bar before reverting to the previous tempo. > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Michael Lawlor > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Bizarre playback
It's a longstanding bug that most expressions chase from measure one, but keyswitches don't (say, arco to pizz, mutes, and for all I know maybe softer versions of some instruments.) Balance is a tricky issue, because one can't expect a p trumpet to be balanced with a p flute in its bottom octave, for example. Most issues related to balance, unless the same dynamic gives a different volume to the SAME instrument, can probably be traced to simply Finale doesn't really know what correct balance is. You have the Studio view to sort out all that. I don't know what to say about the tempo problem, except is it possible that you have an expression partway through the bar that has playback associated with tempo? Even if you didn't set it yourself? Sometimes I have taken an expression that I liked the look of, changed the text, but didn't check the playback, and then it had unexpected results. Christopher On Wed Dec 22, at WednesdayDec 22 8:52 AM, Peter Taylor wrote: > One thing you could try if you haven't already: > > Click on the speaker icon button on the Playback Controls toolbar, then on > the > Playback/Record Options button near the bottom of the panel. Check that you > have > Selected "Chase from First Measure" in the Dynamics and markings box. > > Hope it helps > Peter > > > -Original Message- >> From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf > Of >> Michael Lawlor >> Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 10:34 AM >> To: finale@shsu.edu >> Subject: [Finale] Bizarre playback >> >> [Finale 2009] >> I am encountering a range of unexpected results from playback. I have > tried >> VST instruments (with and without human playback) and normal MIDI, but all >> suffer from the same problems. >> >> 1) If I play from the beginning I hear all the parts, but if I start >> playback elsewhere, some parts do not sound. >> >> 2) Although dynamics are specified, some parts play more quietly than > others >> (of the same kind: 6 oboes & 6 bassoons) and some get quieter. There has >> been a dim. a few bars earlier, but it should have been completed and a > forte >> should be in effect. >> >> 3) A tempo change (crotchet = 60 becomes crotchet = 90) only lasts about > 1/2 >> bar before reverting to the previous tempo. >> >> Any help would be appreciated. >> >> Michael Lawlor >> ___ >> Finale mailing list >> Finale@shsu.edu >> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Bizarre playback
On Wed, December 22, 2010 9:58 am, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: > please read "Jazz" as "Romantic"; it is the "Romantic" HP style which > degrades playback; "Jazz" does not. That's my experience as well. The "Romantic" setting does some nice things with dynamic and tempo shape, but also produces some degraded results. Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
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Michael,
About your playback problem, if you have Human Playback activated, you
might try a different playback type (or none). I found out last July
that at least one of the Human Playback modes ("Jazz") has a "feature"
which degrades playback.
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Friends,
Where I wrote
I found out last July that at least one of the Human Playback modes ("Jazz") has a
"feature" which degrades playback.
please read "Jazz" as "Romantic"; it is the "Romantic" HP style which
degrades playback; "Jazz" does not.
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Re: [Finale] Bizarre playback bug
Have you shut down Finale and then restarted it to see if the same problems persist? I know it sounds crazy but sometimes that helps weird problems such as this. David H. Bailey On 10/16/2014 7:41 PM, Lee Actor wrote: > Finale 2012c on Win7, GPO4 > > On a 25-stave band score, the default for one of the percussion staves is > Basic Orchestral Percussion; there's a passage where it changes to glock, > then at a later point changes to xylophone for the rest of the piece. I > found that I needed the default percussion again for the last 4 measures, so > I deleted the instrument change to xylo, then used the Change Instrument > utility to select xylo for a range of measures that excluded the last 4 > bars. No problems with playback on that staff. > > However, the notes for one of the clarinet staves play but now do not turn > off. Even All Notes Off under MIDI/Audio doesn't turn them off. I have to > either exit Finale, or open up the Aria player and reload the bank for that > staff to halt the hideous tone cluster. I reverted to a previous version of > the file and all is fine until I delete and recreate the xylo instrument > change. The eternal clarinet notes then return under some playback > conditions I haven't completely determined yet. > > Has anyone seen something similar to this? > > > Lee Actor > Composer-in-Residence and Assistant Conductor, Palo Alto Philharmonic > http://www.leeactor.com > > > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > > -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com http://www.davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Bizarre playback bug
Yes, even tried rebooting. It's something in the file. -Lee -Original Message- From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of David H. Bailey Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 4:56 PM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Bizarre playback bug Have you shut down Finale and then restarted it to see if the same problems persist? I know it sounds crazy but sometimes that helps weird problems such as this. David H. Bailey On 10/16/2014 7:41 PM, Lee Actor wrote: > Finale 2012c on Win7, GPO4 > > On a 25-stave band score, the default for one of the percussion staves is > Basic Orchestral Percussion; there's a passage where it changes to glock, > then at a later point changes to xylophone for the rest of the piece. I > found that I needed the default percussion again for the last 4 measures, so > I deleted the instrument change to xylo, then used the Change Instrument > utility to select xylo for a range of measures that excluded the last 4 > bars. No problems with playback on that staff. > > However, the notes for one of the clarinet staves play but now do not turn > off. Even All Notes Off under MIDI/Audio doesn't turn them off. I have to > either exit Finale, or open up the Aria player and reload the bank for that > staff to halt the hideous tone cluster. I reverted to a previous version of > the file and all is fine until I delete and recreate the xylo instrument > change. The eternal clarinet notes then return under some playback > conditions I haven't completely determined yet. > > Has anyone seen something similar to this? > > > Lee Actor > Composer-in-Residence and Assistant Conductor, Palo Alto Philharmonic > http://www.leeactor.com > > > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > > -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com http://www.davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Bizarre playback bug
On 17.10.2014 10:41, Lee Actor wrote: > the notes for one of the clarinet staves play but now do not turn > off. Even All Notes Off under MIDI/Audio doesn't turn them off. > Has anyone seen something similar to this? Yes, I've seen exactly this phenomena too, except it was trombones in my case. Although I had Troms 1 and 2 on separate staves, they were set to use the same MIDI channel, and the hanging notes occurred when both parts played the same note together (in unison). I'm wondering if that might be the case with your clarinets. The answer was to give each part its own channel. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Bizarre playback bug
That occurred to me too; I should have mentioned that each staff has its own MIDI channel. The strangest part of this is that after the percussion instrument change, the clarinet notes don't turn off for the entire piece -- music which had previously played back just fine. -Lee -Original Message- From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Peter Taylor Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 4:44 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Bizarre playback bug On 17.10.2014 10:41, Lee Actor wrote: > the notes for one of the clarinet staves play but now do not turn > off. Even All Notes Off under MIDI/Audio doesn't turn them off. > Has anyone seen something similar to this? Yes, I've seen exactly this phenomena too, except it was trombones in my case. Although I had Troms 1 and 2 on separate staves, they were set to use the same MIDI channel, and the hanging notes occurred when both parts played the same note together (in unison). I'm wondering if that might be the case with your clarinets. The answer was to give each part its own channel. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
