Re: [Finale] Deauthorize via Customer Support

2011-08-10 Thread Brian Williams
No joke. I was only surmising that they may have had serial number security
issues with some users that prompted their new policy.


On 8/10/11 10:00 AM, finale-requ...@shsu.edu wrote:

 I think it was a joke, Darcy.
 
 Hi Brian,
 MM has a database with the name and contact information of each registered
 owner and their associated serial.
 Cheers, DJA
 
 On 9 Aug 2011, at 7:13 PM, Brian Williams wrote:
 
 Maybe MM is just trying to make sure that unscrupulous people who have
 surreptitiously obtained serial numbers aren't trying to
 illegitimately deauthorize them.


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Re: [Finale] Deauthorize via Customer Support

2011-08-10 Thread David H. Bailey
I didn't think it was a joke -- your suggestion made good sense to me. 
It certainly sounded to me as if MakeMusic is taking extra steps to 
ensure something stops happening.

David H. Bailey

On 8/10/2011 1:38 PM, Brian Williams wrote:
 No joke. I was only surmising that they may have had serial number security
 issues with some users that prompted their new policy.


 On 8/10/11 10:00 AM, finale-requ...@shsu.edu wrote:

 I think it was a joke, Darcy.

 Hi Brian,
 MM has a database with the name and contact information of each registered
 owner and their associated serial.
 Cheers, DJA

 On 9 Aug 2011, at 7:13 PM, Brian Williams wrote:

 Maybe MM is just trying to make sure that unscrupulous people who have
 surreptitiously obtained serial numbers aren't trying to
 illegitimately deauthorize them.


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Re: [Finale] Deauthorize via Customer Support

2011-08-09 Thread Michael L Meyer
On Aug 9, 2011, at 11:51 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 I thought that some might be interested to have a heads-up that apparently 
 MakeMusic customer support have been instructed to be more... inquisitive, 
 I'll say... when you call up and ask to deauthorize all versions of Finale 
 associated with your serial number.
 

Jeez, Darcy, and you've even done work for them before!  Imagine if any of us 
more common-folk end up having an issue ...



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Re: [Finale] Deauthorize via Customer Support

2011-08-09 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hi Michael,

To be fair, it did not get to the point where I felt I needed to mention that. 
But it's obviously frustrating when you have defend yourself to customer 
support as legitimate user who just wants access to your own software.

Cheers,

- DJA
-
WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org



On 9 Aug 2011, at 12:02 PM, Michael L Meyer wrote:

 On Aug 9, 2011, at 11:51 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I thought that some might be interested to have a heads-up that apparently 
 MakeMusic customer support have been instructed to be more... inquisitive, 
 I'll say... when you call up and ask to deauthorize all versions of Finale 
 associated with your serial number.
 
 
 Jeez, Darcy, and you've even done work for them before!  Imagine if any of us 
 more common-folk end up having an issue ...
 
 
 
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Re: [Finale] Deauthorize via Customer Support

2011-08-09 Thread Aaron Sherber
On 8/9/2011 12:11 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
 But it's obviously frustrating when you have defend yourself to
 customer support as legitimate user who just wants access to your own
 software.

Agreed. If you can sufficiently identify yourself to them, their job 
should be just to do as you ask with your authorizations. I had a 
similar experience recently -- laptop died, had to install and authorize 
on a new laptop. I wouldn't say I was hassled about it, but the rep did 
ask some questions about why I hadn't deauthorized on the old computer. 
I feel like it's not really their business; maybe I just don't feel like 
deauthorizing myself, but I should be able to call up and do it via phone.

Aaron.
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Re: [Finale] Deauthorize via Customer Support

2011-08-09 Thread David W. Fenton
On 9 Aug 2011 at 12:11, Darcy James Argue wrote:

 But it's obviously frustrating when you have defend yourself to
 customer support as legitimate user who just wants access to your own
 software.

Darcy, you've surely read the EULAs for all commercial software -- 
you don't own any of it. You've only got a license to use it.

Now, arguably, the whole point is that this kind of thing interferes 
with your rights under the EULA's license to use it appropriately, so 
this is just a quibble about semantics.

But it's an important one -- with most software, you don't OWN it at 
all.

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Re: [Finale] Deauthorize via Customer Support

2011-08-09 Thread Brian Williams
Maybe MM is just trying to make sure that unscrupulous people who have
surreptitiously obtained serial numbers aren't trying to illegitimately
deauthorize them.


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Re: [Finale] Deauthorize via Customer Support

2011-08-09 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hi David,

Yes, of course we don't really own software, but it's tiresome to have to 
deploy the phrase own a license to use -- I take it as a given that everyone 
knows when I talk about owning software, I'm talking about owning a user 
license.

Cheers,

- DJA
-
WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org



On 9 Aug 2011, at 7:02 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:

 On 9 Aug 2011 at 12:11, Darcy James Argue wrote:
 
 But it's obviously frustrating when you have defend yourself to
 customer support as legitimate user who just wants access to your own
 software.
 
 Darcy, you've surely read the EULAs for all commercial software -- 
 you don't own any of it. You've only got a license to use it.
 
 Now, arguably, the whole point is that this kind of thing interferes 
 with your rights under the EULA's license to use it appropriately, so 
 this is just a quibble about semantics.
 
 But it's an important one -- with most software, you don't OWN it at 
 all.
 
 -- 
 David W. Fentonhttp://dfenton.com
 David Fenton Associates   http://dfenton.com/DFA/
 
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Re: [Finale] Deauthorize via Customer Support

2011-08-09 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hi Brian,

MM has a database with the name and contact information of each registered 
owner and their associated serial.

Cheers,

- DJA
-
WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org



On 9 Aug 2011, at 7:13 PM, Brian Williams wrote:

 Maybe MM is just trying to make sure that unscrupulous people who have
 surreptitiously obtained serial numbers aren't trying to illegitimately
 deauthorize them.
 
 
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Re: [Finale] Deauthorize via Customer Support

2011-08-09 Thread Richard Yates
I think it was a joke, Darcy.

 Hi Brian,
 MM has a database with the name and contact information of each registered
 owner and their associated serial. 
 Cheers, DJA

 On 9 Aug 2011, at 7:13 PM, Brian Williams wrote:
 
  Maybe MM is just trying to make sure that unscrupulous people who have
  surreptitiously obtained serial numbers aren't trying to
  illegitimately deauthorize them.


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