Re: [Finale] Duration of work or section
Took me a while to find it in the menus but it's good to know the hotkey again. So who at Make Music decides to keep moving these things around? I opened an older file in Fin2004 file the other day and it was only then that I realised just how much they've buggered around with all menu items. Favour sharps/flats is my personal favourite. Won't be long before you'll need to open another application to access it! Jonathan Smith There it is! I knew I had seen it! Thanks! Putting it under Check Notation is NOT intuitive! It should just be under utilities, as in the older versions. And highlighting the section and hitting 3 (not 5 as the doc says) also works. RBH ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Duration of work or section
On 20-Mar-08, at 11:46 AM, David W. Fenton wrote: On 20 Mar 2008 at 10:32, Christopher Smith wrote: If you need frame-accurate timing, there is some voodoo to be done with Human Playback to make sure it always plays back with the exact amount of rit or rubato, but I can't remember it right now. Sounds to me as if it might be better to SAVE AS a MIDI file and then open the MIDI file to see what the duration is. Of course, that only works with a full file -- I've always wished Finale offered the opportunity to save a selection as MIDI. It would make it a lot easier to create individual MIDI files from a multi- movement work that is in in a single Finale file. Actually, I think I remember the technique now (Darcy had originally clued me in). You turn off Human Playback but apply it to the sections you want or the entire piece using the Apply Human Playback plugin. It stays fixed then. You can also use this technique for sections that need different styles of playback, like jazz and latin eighth notes. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Duration of work or section
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Select Mass Edit Tool - press 5. this will give the total for the entire piece. If you select a section it will give the timing of the section. There's a mass-edit tool in Fin2008? Where? -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Duration of work or section
Ray Horton wrote: Am I nuts? In 2008a, where has the command to tell how long the piece, or section of the piece, gone? I can't find it anywhere, and the manual is no help. Raymond Horton ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale As I recall, you're on a Mac, so this may not be accurate for you, but for windows, the only way I can see to tell the length of the whole piece is to have it play, and read the time display on the Playback Controls. To avoid having the entire file play, you can change the Playback Options to begin playback either from the indicated measure or the left-most measure in window and have the last measure show. It will display the time from the beginning of the piece. Here's from the Windows documentation: * Elapsed time If you need an accurate assessment of the real-time length of a section of music, the Selection Tool can help. The time displayed is based on the current tempo settings for the piece in the Playback Controls, including any tempo changes, ritards, and so on set up as playback effects on an expression. To learn the real-time length of selected music Click the Selection Tool and select a region. See Selecting music for some region-selecting shortcuts. From the Utilities Menu, choose Check Notation, then Check Elapsed Time. Or, while pressing the 5 key, double-click the highlighted area. A dialog box appears, displaying (1) the amount of time that has passed from the beginning of the piece to the beginning of the selected region; (2) the time that has passed from the beginning of the piece to the end of the selected region; and (3) the total time of the selected region itself (all in thousandths of a second). Click OK (or press enter). * I found it by doing a search on Time and then scrolling down the huge list of every occasion of the word time, I found the term elapsed time and clicked on that to get to that information. However I do notice this discrepancy -- playing the file I opened to try to help Ray find the location of shows a time of 00:03:24 on the playback controls. When I used the selection tool to highlight the entire work and then Utilities / Check Notation / Elapsed Time, it shows me that the piece is 00:03:25.5. Now I realize that 1.5 seconds out of a 3:24 piece isn't all that significant, one would think that since the program is the same in both cases, that it could look in the same place to find the same information to display in the two different locations. Anyway, that's how to find the length of either a section or the entire file. -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Duration of work or section
In the Utitilities menu, choose Check Notation Check Elapsed Time... Michael On 20 Mar 2008, at 07:09, Ray Horton wrote: Am I nuts? In 2008a, where has the command to tell how long the piece, or section of the piece, gone? I can't find it anywhere, and the manual is no help. Raymond Horton ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Duration of work or section
In a message dated 20/03/2008 08:37:49 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There's a mass-edit tool in Fin2008? Where? Erm..sorry. Yet another case of half read a message on my way out to work syndrome. I didn't read the 2008 bit. Sorry if I raised false hopes. Lawrence lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Duration of work or section
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 20/03/2008 08:37:49 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There's a mass-edit tool in Fin2008? Where? Erm..sorry. Yet another case of half read a message on my way out to work syndrome. I didn't read the 2008 bit. Sorry if I raised false hopes. Well, the Selection Tool comes close, but I was just wondering if I had missed something. Thanks. :-) -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Duration of work or section
On Mar 20, 2008, at 9:53 AM, dhbailey wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 20/03/2008 08:37:49 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There's a mass-edit tool in Fin2008? Where? Erm..sorry. Yet another case of half read a message on my way out to work syndrome. I didn't read the 2008 bit. Sorry if I raised false hopes. Well, the Selection Tool comes close, but I was just wondering if I had missed something. Thanks. :-) With 2008 it was moved to the 3 key. The documentation is wrong (I searched the Encyclopedia under Elapsed Time), as they say the 5 key, which is not true any more. Selection Tool, click a measure (or group of measures) and hit 3. You get Time at beginning of measure, time at end of measure and Elapsed Time up to that point since the beginning of the selected section. I am a little bewildered at the long series of steps suggested in this thread so far. Make sure the tempo in the playback window is set correctly unless you have a tempo marking with playback, which overrides the playback window setting. I find the tempo markings work well, as I can have different tempos and still have an accurate timing. If you need frame-accurate timing, there is some voodoo to be done with Human Playback to make sure it always plays back with the exact amount of rit or rubato, but I can't remember it right now. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Duration of work or section
On 20 Mar 2008 at 10:32, Christopher Smith wrote: If you need frame-accurate timing, there is some voodoo to be done with Human Playback to make sure it always plays back with the exact amount of rit or rubato, but I can't remember it right now. Sounds to me as if it might be better to SAVE AS a MIDI file and then open the MIDI file to see what the duration is. Of course, that only works with a full file -- I've always wished Finale offered the opportunity to save a selection as MIDI. It would make it a lot easier to create individual MIDI files from a multi- movement work that is in in a single Finale file. -- David W. Fentonhttp://dfenton.com David Fenton Associates http://dfenton.com/DFA/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Duration of work or section
There it is! I knew I had seen it! Thanks! Putting it under Check Notation is NOT intuitive! It should just be under utilities, as in the older versions. And highlighting the section and hitting 3 (not 5 as the doc says) also works. RBH Michael Cook wrote: In the Utitilities menu, choose Check Notation Check Elapsed Time... Michael On 20 Mar 2008, at 07:09, Ray Horton wrote: Am I nuts? In 2008a, where has the command to tell how long the piece, or section of the piece, gone? I can't find it anywhere, and the manual is no help. Raymond Horton ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
