Re: [Finale] Fin2011: Hiding key sig change in cutaway staff

2012-06-05 Thread Steve Parker
In document preferences you can turn off courtesy key sig announcements. 
I've not found a sensible way to achieve both kinds in the same piece.
Actually opaque boxes is my preferred way of dealing with all manner of things..

Steve P. 

On 5 Jun 2012, at 16:13, Aaron Sherber aa...@sherber.com wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 I have a score with a cutaway staff. At the end of one system is a 
 cautionary key sig change. In the cutaway staff, the last couple of 
 measures are hidden with a staf style. However, the key sig change still 
 displays:
 
https://www.dropbox.com/s/kxjgcosucjzlia0/cutaway.PNG
 
 I'm guessing that the issue is that the key sig change is not actually 
 part of any measure and hence is not hidden by the staff style. I know 
 that I can hide the key sig in the cutaway staff by putting an opaque 
 expression over it, but is there a neater way that I'm missing?
 
 Thanks,
 Aaron.
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Re: [Finale] Fin2011: Hiding key sig change in cutaway staff

2012-06-05 Thread John Blane
Assuming your staff style is set to not display key sigs, apply it to the next 
measure to hide the cautionary key sig.

On Jun 5, 2012, at 10:13 AM, Aaron Sherber wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 I have a score with a cutaway staff. At the end of one system is a 
 cautionary key sig change. In the cutaway staff, the last couple of 
 measures are hidden with a staf style. However, the key sig change still 
 displays:
 
https://www.dropbox.com/s/kxjgcosucjzlia0/cutaway.PNG
 
 I'm guessing that the issue is that the key sig change is not actually 
 part of any measure and hence is not hidden by the staff style. I know 
 that I can hide the key sig in the cutaway staff by putting an opaque 
 expression over it, but is there a neater way that I'm missing?
 
 Thanks,
 Aaron.
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Re: [Finale] Fin2011: Hiding key sig change in cutaway staff

2012-06-05 Thread Aaron Sherber
On 6/5/2012 12:40 PM, Steve Parker wrote:
 In document preferences you can turn off courtesy key sig announcements.

Right, but I don't want to turn them off globally, or even for this 
measure in all staves -- just in this single stave, since at this point 
in the score it's hidden.

 Actually opaque boxes is my preferred way of dealing with all manner of 
 things..

Hah! That says some very interesting things about Finale!

Thanks,
Aaron.
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Re: [Finale] Fin2011: Hiding key sig change in cutaway staff

2012-06-05 Thread SN jef chippewa

can't tell from the image, but if the next measure of the hidden 
thingy is also hidden, set that staff to allow Independent Elements: 
Key Signatures and extend the key sig to the next measure for ONLY 
that voice.

NB this will affect any future changes of key sigs, if you only 
select one instrument and change key, all but this staff will change 
(you need to select the measure block)

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Re: [Finale] Fin2011: Hiding key sig change in cutaway staff

2012-06-05 Thread Steve Parker
I get you now.. when I saw who message was from I realised that I was telling 
you nothing new..
In this case an opaque box is probably the most elegant solution. 
In the notation app I used before Finale (and after very early Finale use..) 
you could right click on anything and hide it.
For that matter you could click on anything and move it. 
Finale is like copying with boxing gloves on in comparison!
Steve P. 

On 5 Jun 2012, at 17:53, Aaron Sherber aa...@sherber.com wrote:

 On 6/5/2012 12:40 PM, Steve Parker wrote:
 In document preferences you can turn off courtesy key sig announcements.
 
 Right, but I don't want to turn them off globally, or even for this 
 measure in all staves -- just in this single stave, since at this point 
 in the score it's hidden.
 
 Actually opaque boxes is my preferred way of dealing with all manner of 
 things..
 
 Hah! That says some very interesting things about Finale!
 
 Thanks,
 Aaron.
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Re: [Finale] Fin2011: Hiding key sig change in cutaway staff

2012-06-05 Thread Aaron Sherber
On 6/5/2012 11:39 AM, John Blane wrote:
 Assuming your staff style is set to not display key sigs, apply it to the 
 next measure to hide the cautionary key sig.

Ah, that's very interesting. The cautionary sig is at the end of a 
system, and this cutaway staff is completely hidden in the next system 
because it's empty. But if I unhide the staff and apply the staff style 
to the first measure, the cautionary sig does indeed disappear, and then 
I can rehide the (still) empty staff.

Good trick, thanks.

Aaron.
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Re: [Finale] Fin2011: Hiding key sig change in cutaway staff

2012-06-05 Thread Steve Parker
Ah just noticed who question was from..
I'm clearly telling you stuff you already know..
Steve P. 

On 5 Jun 2012, at 16:13, Aaron Sherber aa...@sherber.com wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 I have a score with a cutaway staff. At the end of one system is a 
 cautionary key sig change. In the cutaway staff, the last couple of 
 measures are hidden with a staf style. However, the key sig change still 
 displays:
 
https://www.dropbox.com/s/kxjgcosucjzlia0/cutaway.PNG
 
 I'm guessing that the issue is that the key sig change is not actually 
 part of any measure and hence is not hidden by the staff style. I know 
 that I can hide the key sig in the cutaway staff by putting an opaque 
 expression over it, but is there a neater way that I'm missing?
 
 Thanks,
 Aaron.
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