Re: [Finale] Finale 2012 - space hog
On 2011-10-15 01:24, Darcy James Argue wrote: That's not actually correct. In recent versions of Finale, the Aria player also plays back the SmartMusic SoftSynth sounds. It's the Garritan sounds that occupy the majority of the HD space. Aria is nothing in comparison. Best regards, Jari Williamsson ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale 2012 - space hog
On 10/14/2011 7:24 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: That's not actually correct. In recent versions of Finale, the Aria player also plays back the SmartMusic SoftSynth sounds. Thanks for that knowledge -- I was wrong. Interesting, since I thought the Smartmusic SoftSynth was a soundfont. Guess I'm remembering earlier versions. Thanks for correcting my error! -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale 2012 - space hog
Hi David, Actually, on investigation I think I was wrong -- it looks like you can still use the SmartMusic SoftSynth instruments both inside and outside of the Aria Player. It's just that Finale now defaults to using it with Aria. Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On 15 Oct 2011, at 6:29 AM, David H. Bailey wrote: On 10/14/2011 7:24 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: That's not actually correct. In recent versions of Finale, the Aria player also plays back the SmartMusic SoftSynth sounds. Thanks for that knowledge -- I was wrong. Interesting, since I thought the Smartmusic SoftSynth was a soundfont. Guess I'm remembering earlier versions. Thanks for correcting my error! -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale 2012 - space hog
On Sat Oct 15, at SaturdayOct 15 6:29 AM, David H. Bailey wrote: On 10/14/2011 7:24 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: That's not actually correct. In recent versions of Finale, the Aria player also plays back the SmartMusic SoftSynth sounds. Thanks for that knowledge -- I was wrong. Interesting, since I thought the Smartmusic SoftSynth was a soundfont. Guess I'm remembering earlier versions. Thanks for correcting my error! -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com Yes, that was news to me, too! Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale 2012 - space hog
There's a MIDI version and a VST version. I'm not sure how the implementation works. Sent from my iPhone, so please pardon all the typos. On Oct 15, 2011, at 8:58 AM, Darcy James Argue djar...@earthlink.net wrote: Hi David, Actually, on investigation I think I was wrong -- it looks like you can still use the SmartMusic SoftSynth instruments both inside and outside of the Aria Player. It's just that Finale now defaults to using it with Aria. Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On 15 Oct 2011, at 6:29 AM, David H. Bailey wrote: On 10/14/2011 7:24 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: That's not actually correct. In recent versions of Finale, the Aria player also plays back the SmartMusic SoftSynth sounds. Thanks for that knowledge -- I was wrong. Interesting, since I thought the Smartmusic SoftSynth was a soundfont. Guess I'm remembering earlier versions. Thanks for correcting my error! -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale 2012 - space hog
Download the demo of Mackeeper and 'find duplicates'. I'm pretty organised and efficient on my mac but still regained about 10 gigs. You need to manually search and delete the duplicates - unless you pay. FWIW it is pretty easy and cheap to replace the internal drive on a mac laptop - I put a 500gig in mine. Steve P. On 14 Oct 2011, at 17:17, christopher.sm...@videotron.ca christopher.sm...@videotron.ca wrote: I hear you, I have a 6 year old laptop that I am trying to make survive for another year. No use replacing the HD in such an old machine, an external drive defeats the convenience of portability, and space is at a premium. Drop the Garritan and Aria Player. The Garritan sounds are heavy and will free up plenty of room, especially if all you need is another year and can deal with General MIDI playback. I got rid of all my unused printer definitions too and saved a bunch of space on my laptop, but discovered that I lost the ability to plug into a guest printer, so I reinstalled them. (I am on a Mac.) Christopher - Original Message - From: Giz Bowe girard.b...@verizon.net Date: Friday, October 14, 2011 11:49 am Subject: [Finale] Finale 2012 - space hog To: finale@shsu.edu I'm trying to make room on my hard drive until such time as I can upgrade my computer - probably next year. I was curious what Finale things I can delete and still be able to hear some sort of playback. I don't configure any of my music for realistic playback - I use playback mainly as an aural spellcheck. So what can safely go?: Garritan instruments? Aria player? Thanks for any help - bear in mind I am pretty ignorant concerning MIDI sound issues, if you hadn't already figured that out! Giz Bowe Richmond VA ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale 2012 - space hog
Seriously? One can go buy a 2 terrabyte hard drive for well under $100 (around $60). Why not treat yourself to a new HD in addition to the new software? Sent from my iSomething -- Eric Dannewitz Musician/Polymath/Evil Genius http://www.ericdannewitz.com/ iMessage ericdannew...@me.com On Oct 14, 2011, at 8:49 AM, Giz Bowe girard.b...@verizon.net wrote: I'm trying to make room on my hard drive until such time as I can upgrade my computer - probably next year. I was curious what Finale things I can delete and still be able to hear some sort of playback. I don't configure any of my music for realistic playback - I use playback mainly as an aural spellcheck. So what can safely go?: Garritan instruments? Aria player? Thanks for any help - bear in mind I am pretty ignorant concerning MIDI sound issues, if you hadn't already figured that out! Giz Bowe Richmond VA ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale 2012 - space hog
That's exactly what I've just done! On 14 October 2011 16:52, Eric Dannewitz ericd...@jazz-sax.com wrote: Seriously? One can go buy a 2 terrabyte hard drive for well under $100 (around $60). -- Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale 2012 - space hog
On Fri, October 14, 2011 12:15 pm, Lawrence Yates wrote: That's exactly what I've just done! On 14 October 2011 16:52, Eric Dannewitz ericd...@jazz-sax.com wrote: Seriously? One can go buy a 2 terrabyte hard drive for well under $100 (around $60). Buy TWO -- one for backup of the first one and of your internal drive (and software to do it). When the floods came at the end of August, we grabbed all those drives and headed out (with two cats and an emergency kit). Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale 2012 - space hog
I don't know about v2012, but when I used v2010 on my prior computer I omitted all the Garritan stuff and it worked just fine. Like you, I use playback as a proofreading tool and not much more. mdl -Original Message- From: Giz Bowe girard.b...@verizon.net Sent: Oct 14, 2011 7:46 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: [Finale] Finale 2012 - space hog I'm trying to make room on my hard drive until such time as I can upgrade my computer - probably next year. I was curious what Finale things I can delete and still be able to hear some sort of playback. I don't configure any of my music for realistic playback - I use playback mainly as an aural spellcheck. So what can safely go?: Garritan instruments? Aria player? Thanks for any help - bear in mind I am pretty ignorant concerning MIDI sound issues, if you hadn't already figured that out! Giz Bowe Richmond VA ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale 2012 - space hog
I hear you, I have a 6 year old laptop that I am trying to make survive for another year. No use replacing the HD in such an old machine, an external drive defeats the convenience of portability, and space is at a premium. Drop the Garritan and Aria Player. The Garritan sounds are heavy and will free up plenty of room, especially if all you need is another year and can deal with General MIDI playback. I got rid of all my unused printer definitions too and saved a bunch of space on my laptop, but discovered that I lost the ability to plug into a guest printer, so I reinstalled them. (I am on a Mac.) Christopher - Original Message - From: Giz Bowe girard.b...@verizon.net Date: Friday, October 14, 2011 11:49 am Subject: [Finale] Finale 2012 - space hog To: finale@shsu.edu I'm trying to make room on my hard drive until such time as I can upgrade my computer - probably next year. I was curious what Finale things I can delete and still be able to hear some sort of playback. I don't configure any of my music for realistic playback - I use playback mainly as an aural spellcheck. So what can safely go?: Garritan instruments? Aria player? Thanks for any help - bear in mind I am pretty ignorant concerning MIDI sound issues, if you hadn't already figured that out! Giz Bowe Richmond VA ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale 2012 - space hog
Giz: While my first inclination would be to echo the suggestion of those suggesting addition of a hard drive, it doesn't answer your question. As far as I can tell (and I'll admit here that I've not yet upgraded to 2012), you can probably safely decline to install Garritan instruments and the Aria player without losing any Finale functionality, although of the two, the largest is probably the Garritan instruments library. I'd guess the Aria player is small enough to not make much difference. The other things that one might choose not to install are, again, small enough not to make much difference in the final analysis. Just to be safe, you might want to pose the question to MakeMusic technical support, though. ns ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale 2012 - space hog
On 10/14/2011 12:49 PM, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: Giz: While my first inclination would be to echo the suggestion of those suggesting addition of a hard drive, it doesn't answer your question. As far as I can tell (and I'll admit here that I've not yet upgraded to 2012), you can probably safely decline to install Garritan instruments and the Aria player without losing any Finale functionality, although of the two, the largest is probably the Garritan instruments library. I'd guess the Aria player is small enough to not make much difference. The other things that one might choose not to install are, again, small enough not to make much difference in the final analysis. But without the Garritan sounds installed there's no need to install the Aria player, since it's only there to play the Garritan sounds through. -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale 2012 - space hog
Hi Chris, I don't believe you can drop the Aria player from Finale 2012 if you still want playback. And Giz could easily get a portable bus-powered HD. Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On 14 Oct 2011, at 12:17 PM, christopher.sm...@videotron.ca christopher.sm...@videotron.ca wrote: I hear you, I have a 6 year old laptop that I am trying to make survive for another year. No use replacing the HD in such an old machine, an external drive defeats the convenience of portability, and space is at a premium. Drop the Garritan and Aria Player. The Garritan sounds are heavy and will free up plenty of room, especially if all you need is another year and can deal with General MIDI playback. I got rid of all my unused printer definitions too and saved a bunch of space on my laptop, but discovered that I lost the ability to plug into a guest printer, so I reinstalled them. (I am on a Mac.) Christopher - Original Message - From: Giz Bowe girard.b...@verizon.net Date: Friday, October 14, 2011 11:49 am Subject: [Finale] Finale 2012 - space hog To: finale@shsu.edu I'm trying to make room on my hard drive until such time as I can upgrade my computer - probably next year. I was curious what Finale things I can delete and still be able to hear some sort of playback. I don't configure any of my music for realistic playback - I use playback mainly as an aural spellcheck. So what can safely go?: Garritan instruments? Aria player? Thanks for any help - bear in mind I am pretty ignorant concerning MIDI sound issues, if you hadn't already figured that out! Giz Bowe Richmond VA ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale 2012 - space hog
That's not actually correct. In recent versions of Finale, the Aria player also plays back the SmartMusic SoftSynth sounds. Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On 14 Oct 2011, at 3:47 PM, David H. Bailey wrote: On 10/14/2011 12:49 PM, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: Giz: While my first inclination would be to echo the suggestion of those suggesting addition of a hard drive, it doesn't answer your question. As far as I can tell (and I'll admit here that I've not yet upgraded to 2012), you can probably safely decline to install Garritan instruments and the Aria player without losing any Finale functionality, although of the two, the largest is probably the Garritan instruments library. I'd guess the Aria player is small enough to not make much difference. The other things that one might choose not to install are, again, small enough not to make much difference in the final analysis. But without the Garritan sounds installed there's no need to install the Aria player, since it's only there to play the Garritan sounds through. -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale 2012 - space hog
Or is it possible to install Finale on my portable HD, or does it need to exist on an OS of some sort? Thanks to all who've responded so far. Giz At 10:46 AM 10/14/2011, you wrote: I'm trying to make room on my hard drive until such time as I can upgrade my computer - probably next year. I was curious what Finale things I can delete and still be able to hear some sort of playback. I don't configure any of my music for realistic playback - I use playback mainly as an aural spellcheck. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale 2012 - space hog
No, it should be fine on another drive I would think. Sent from my iSomething -- Eric Dannewitz Musician/Polymath/Evil Genius http://www.ericdannewitz.com/ iMessage ericdannew...@me.com On Oct 14, 2011, at 9:23 PM, Giz Bowe girard.b...@verizon.net wrote: Or is it possible to install Finale on my portable HD, or does it need to exist on an OS of some sort? Thanks to all who've responded so far. Giz At 10:46 AM 10/14/2011, you wrote: I'm trying to make room on my hard drive until such time as I can upgrade my computer - probably next year. I was curious what Finale things I can delete and still be able to hear some sort of playback. I don't configure any of my music for realistic playback - I use playback mainly as an aural spellcheck. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
