Re: [Finale] MIDI volume send?

2009-09-05 Thread A-NO-NE Music


On 2009/09/05, at 15:51, toronado...@gmail.com wrote:

Each time I press play, before a single note has been played (even  
if no
notes are entered in the score yet) volume controller messages are  
being
sent to my MIDI keyboard for each track. This is volume, not key  
velocity.
I've tried turning off H.P., unchecking send patches before play,  
and
changing the values of the levels in the instrument list and mixer,  
all to
no avail. The volume leveles are being set to 64 even though they  
say 100
(or anything else) in the instrument list. I created this score  
using the

wizard. Anyone know what is going on?



Apology if I am not understanding this, but are you talking about  
_volume_ as in CC7?  I have a feeling you are mistaking with channel  
gain as in CC11.  If you do not wish that to happen, you should filter  
it at the destination.  If you use a MIDI interface such as MOTU MTP/ 
AV, you can filter it on the hardware.


I'd imagine you can insert CC11 at the beginning of each track in  
Finale, no?  Altho you are seeing 64 is odd.  The standard is 110.



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Re: [Finale] MIDI volume send?

2009-09-05 Thread toronado455
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 7:20 PM, A-NO-NE Music anonemu...@mac.com wrote:


 On 2009/09/05, at 15:51, toronado...@gmail.com wrote:

 Each time I press play, before a single note has been played (even if no
 notes are entered in the score yet) volume controller messages are being
 sent to my MIDI keyboard for each track. This is volume, not key velocity.
 I've tried turning off H.P., unchecking send patches before play, and
 changing the values of the levels in the instrument list and mixer, all to
 no avail. The volume leveles are being set to 64 even though they say 100
 (or anything else) in the instrument list. I created this score using the
 wizard. Anyone know what is going on?



 Apology if I am not understanding this, but are you talking about _volume_
 as in CC7?  I have a feeling you are mistaking with channel gain as in CC11.
  If you do not wish that to happen, you should filter it at the destination.
  If you use a MIDI interface such as MOTU MTP/AV, you can filter it on the
 hardware.

 I'd imagine you can insert CC11 at the beginning of each track in Finale,
 no?  Altho you are seeing 64 is odd.  The standard is 110.


The standard is 110? For which? Controller 7 or 11? I'm pretty sure I'm
talking about controller 7 because this is the basic volume level of each
MIDI channel.

If I create a new default document and in the instrument list, the level for
the default first staff is 101, and it becomes 110 on my MIDI keyboard when
I press play. So something is multiplying it by like 109% or something.

But if I create a new document without libararies I get the expected
behavior of exactly what appears in the instrument list in the vol. column
being sent to the MIDI keyboard. This is the way I normally set the
overall volume for tracks.

So there is something in my default document (and apparently also in the
documents I create with the Wizard) which differs from this.
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Re: [Finale] MIDI volume send?

2009-09-05 Thread toronado455
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 10:39 PM, toronado...@gmail.com wrote:



  On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 7:20 PM, A-NO-NE Music anonemu...@mac.com wrote:


 On 2009/09/05, at 15:51, toronado...@gmail.com wrote:

 Each time I press play, before a single note has been played (even if no
 notes are entered in the score yet) volume controller messages are being
 sent to my MIDI keyboard for each track. This is volume, not key
 velocity.
 I've tried turning off H.P., unchecking send patches before play, and
 changing the values of the levels in the instrument list and mixer, all
 to
 no avail. The volume leveles are being set to 64 even though they say 100
 (or anything else) in the instrument list. I created this score using the
 wizard. Anyone know what is going on?



 Apology if I am not understanding this, but are you talking about _volume_
 as in CC7?  I have a feeling you are mistaking with channel gain as in CC11.
  If you do not wish that to happen, you should filter it at the destination.
  If you use a MIDI interface such as MOTU MTP/AV, you can filter it on the
 hardware.

 I'd imagine you can insert CC11 at the beginning of each track in Finale,
 no?  Altho you are seeing 64 is odd.  The standard is 110.


 The standard is 110? For which? Controller 7 or 11? I'm pretty sure I'm
 talking about controller 7 because this is the basic volume level of each
 MIDI channel.

 If I create a new default document and in the instrument list, the level
 for the default first staff is 101, and it becomes 110 on my MIDI
 keyboard when I press play. So something is multiplying it by like 109% or
 something.

 But if I create a new document without libararies I get the expected
 behavior of exactly what appears in the instrument list in the vol. column
 being sent to the MIDI keyboard. This is the way I normally set the
 overall volume for tracks.

 So there is something in my default document (and apparently also in the
 documents I create with the Wizard) which differs from this.






Just wanted to clarify one thing...

In the document in question (the one I originally asked about), if I set the
vol. in the inst. list to 101, it becomes 64 on the MIDI instrument, if I
set it to 100, it becomes 63, if i set it to 50, it becomes  31, if I set it
to 90 it becomes 57, and so on. So something is multiplying it by some less
than 100% factor in this docment.

In the default document it gets mutliplied by slightly more than 100%.

If I create a document without libraries it is multiplied by excactly 100%.
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