Re: [Finale] Parts have different page size than score (Mac)

2012-01-22 Thread Robert Patterson
One would think so, but I've never found that option to have any effect on
this issue. Indeed, I've never seen that it does anything. But I leave it
checked anyway.

On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 11:23 PM, Darcy James Argue
djar...@earthlink.netwrote:

 I haven't actually tried this, so I don't know whether it works, but isn't
 this problem theoretically solved by selecting the Use Finale's Page
 Orientation instead of printer's Page Orientation option?

 Cheers,

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 On 21 Jan 2012, at 3:01 PM, Chuck Israels wrote:

  Hi Robert,
 
  This is an annoyance up with which we have put as long as I can
 remember, and I don't think there's a way around it.  Raymond answered a
 different question.  It's the printing that requires the change, not the
 creation of the different sizes within Finale, and I have long wondered why
 MM doesn't automate this interruption of the printing process.  Perhaps
 there are some conditions in which the Finale page size and the printer set
 up should not match, but I can't think of why that should be.
 
  Personal note:  I know you are going to be losing Susanna and Barry and
 will be likely to miss them, but I also know that the move will be good for
 them (and that they will miss their friends in Memphis).
 
  Chuck
 
 
  On Jan 21, 2012, at 8:25 AM, Robert Patterson wrote:
 
  Is there anyway to have parts and score have different pages sizes
 without
  having to go in and change the Mac printer page size to match each time
 you
  print one or the other? This is a long-standing issue for me, and I
 haven't
  figured out if it is possible.
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Re: [Finale] Parts have different page size than score (Mac)

2012-01-22 Thread James Cooper
In response to the comment Perhaps there are some conditions in which the
Finale page size and the printer set up should not match, but I can't think
of why that should be. -- I routinely do this for booklet printing.  I set
the page layout to 8.5 x 11 portrait, and the printer to 11x17 landscape
and print 2-up.  I got the procedure from Finale user manual  (
http://www.finalemusic.com/UserManuals/Finale2011Win/Finale_Left.htm?booklet%20printing#CSHID=1|StartTopic=Content%2FFinale%2FSearch.htm|SkinName=main
)

 --- James


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Composer, classical guitarist, songwriter
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On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote:

 Hi Robert,

 This is an annoyance up with which we have put as long as I can remember,
 and I don't think there's a way around it.  Raymond answered a different
 question.  It's the printing that requires the change, not the creation of
 the different sizes within Finale, and I have long wondered why MM doesn't
 automate this interruption of the printing process.  Perhaps there are some
 conditions in which the Finale page size and the printer set up should not
 match, but I can't think of why that should be.

 Personal note:  I know you are going to be losing Susanna and Barry and
 will be likely to miss them, but I also know that the move will be good for
 them (and that they will miss their friends in Memphis).

 Chuck


 On Jan 21, 2012, at 8:25 AM, Robert Patterson wrote:

  Is there anyway to have parts and score have different pages sizes
 without
  having to go in and change the Mac printer page size to match each time
 you
  print one or the other? This is a long-standing issue for me, and I
 haven't
  figured out if it is possible.
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 Portland, OR 97209-316

 land line: (971) 255-1167
 cell phone: (360) 201-3434

 www.chuckisraels.com
 www.chuckisraelsjazz.com

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Re: [Finale] Parts have different page size than score (Mac)

2012-01-22 Thread Chuck Israels
Thanks, James.  

I don't think the people at MM are thoughtless, so my first assumption is that 
there are reasons for decisions to implement things in the ways that they do 
them.  This is an example of why there are two places to control printing 
parameters.  Still, it seems that this is not the usual circumstance, so 
perhaps it would be more efficient for most users if the default didn't require 
entering the information in two places.  It's a small thing for me, but it 
might be good to have it automated that way by default and changeable in 
situations like yours.

Thanks again,

Chuck

On Jan 22, 2012, at 1:19 PM, James Cooper wrote:

 In response to the comment Perhaps there are some conditions in which the
 Finale page size and the printer set up should not match, but I can't think
 of why that should be. -- I routinely do this for booklet printing.  I set
 the page layout to 8.5 x 11 portrait, and the printer to 11x17 landscape
 and print 2-up.  I got the procedure from Finale user manual  (
 http://www.finalemusic.com/UserManuals/Finale2011Win/Finale_Left.htm?booklet%20printing#CSHID=1|StartTopic=Content%2FFinale%2FSearch.htm|SkinName=main
 )
 
 --- James
 
 
 James Cooper
 Composer, classical guitarist, songwriter
 www.ModeZ.com
 
 
 On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Hi Robert,
 
 This is an annoyance up with which we have put as long as I can remember,
 and I don't think there's a way around it.  Raymond answered a different
 question.  It's the printing that requires the change, not the creation of
 the different sizes within Finale, and I have long wondered why MM doesn't
 automate this interruption of the printing process.  Perhaps there are some
 conditions in which the Finale page size and the printer set up should not
 match, but I can't think of why that should be.
 
 Personal note:  I know you are going to be losing Susanna and Barry and
 will be likely to miss them, but I also know that the move will be good for
 them (and that they will miss their friends in Memphis).
 
 Chuck
 
 
 On Jan 21, 2012, at 8:25 AM, Robert Patterson wrote:
 
 Is there anyway to have parts and score have different pages sizes
 without
 having to go in and change the Mac printer page size to match each time
 you
 print one or the other? This is a long-standing issue for me, and I
 haven't
 figured out if it is possible.
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 Portland, OR 97209-316
 
 land line: (971) 255-1167
 cell phone: (360) 201-3434
 
 www.chuckisraels.com
 www.chuckisraelsjazz.com
 
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Re: [Finale] Parts have different page size than score (Mac)

2012-01-22 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Chuck Israels wrote:

 ...snippage... Perhaps there are some conditions in which the Finale page 
 size and the printer set up should not match, but I can't think of why that 
 should be.


Besides the reason Jim Cooper mentioned, of printing booklets, there's 
another reason. If one is wishes to print a conductor's score sized 
larger than the largest size of paper one's printer can handle, the 
score must be tiled, each page of the score divided between two or more 
sheets of paper which are assembled by analog methods after printing.

This is not as much of an issue today as it was years ago, when 11 x 17 
printers were, if not unknown, tremendously expensive.

ns
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Re: [Finale] Parts have different page size than score (Mac)

2012-01-21 Thread Raymond Horton
In FinWin 2011: Under Document / Page Format one can choose
different page formats for score and parts.  You will then have to
Manage parts / Generate Parts to see the difference.


Raymond Horton
Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra
Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC
Composer, Arranger
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On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Robert Patterson
rob...@robertgpatterson.com wrote:
 Is there anyway to have parts and score have different pages sizes without
 having to go in and change the Mac printer page size to match each time you
 print one or the other? This is a long-standing issue for me, and I haven't
 figured out if it is possible.
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Re: [Finale] Parts have different page size than score (Mac)

2012-01-21 Thread Chuck Israels
Hi Robert,

This is an annoyance up with which we have put as long as I can remember, and I 
don't think there's a way around it.  Raymond answered a different question.  
It's the printing that requires the change, not the creation of the different 
sizes within Finale, and I have long wondered why MM doesn't automate this 
interruption of the printing process.  Perhaps there are some conditions in 
which the Finale page size and the printer set up should not match, but I can't 
think of why that should be.

Personal note:  I know you are going to be losing Susanna and Barry and will be 
likely to miss them, but I also know that the move will be good for them (and 
that they will miss their friends in Memphis).

Chuck


On Jan 21, 2012, at 8:25 AM, Robert Patterson wrote:

 Is there anyway to have parts and score have different pages sizes without
 having to go in and change the Mac printer page size to match each time you
 print one or the other? This is a long-standing issue for me, and I haven't
 figured out if it is possible.
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Portland, OR 97209-316

land line: (971) 255-1167
cell phone: (360) 201-3434

www.chuckisraels.com
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Re: [Finale] Parts have different page size than score (Mac)

2012-01-21 Thread Raymond Horton
On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote:

 Hi Robert,

 This is an annoyance up with which we have put as long as I
 can remember, and I don't think there's a way around it.  Raymond answered a 
 different question.

You guys are SO picky.

If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is
because he hears a different question. Let him step to the platform
which he hears, however measured or far away.
(Henry David Thoreau, sort of)

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Re: [Finale] Parts have different page size than score (Mac)

2012-01-21 Thread Darcy James Argue
I haven't actually tried this, so I don't know whether it works, but isn't this 
problem theoretically solved by selecting the Use Finale's Page Orientation 
instead of printer's Page Orientation option?

Cheers,

- DJA
-
WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org



On 21 Jan 2012, at 3:01 PM, Chuck Israels wrote:

 Hi Robert,
 
 This is an annoyance up with which we have put as long as I can remember, and 
 I don't think there's a way around it.  Raymond answered a different 
 question.  It's the printing that requires the change, not the creation of 
 the different sizes within Finale, and I have long wondered why MM doesn't 
 automate this interruption of the printing process.  Perhaps there are some 
 conditions in which the Finale page size and the printer set up should not 
 match, but I can't think of why that should be.
 
 Personal note:  I know you are going to be losing Susanna and Barry and will 
 be likely to miss them, but I also know that the move will be good for them 
 (and that they will miss their friends in Memphis).
 
 Chuck
 
 
 On Jan 21, 2012, at 8:25 AM, Robert Patterson wrote:
 
 Is there anyway to have parts and score have different pages sizes without
 having to go in and change the Mac printer page size to match each time you
 print one or the other? This is a long-standing issue for me, and I haven't
 figured out if it is possible.
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 Portland, OR 97209-316
 
 land line: (971) 255-1167
 cell phone: (360) 201-3434
 
 www.chuckisraels.com
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