Re: [Finale] Piano Duet Layout
I am waiting (with bated breath) for Tobias to get on with his update of the tools so that we can have this function in 2010. I offered to help by encouraging him with a financial incentive, but he answered that he didn't need that, and that he was working on it. That was a month or two ago. Still waiting. Chuck On Oct 11, 2009, at 12:24 PM, shirling & neueweise wrote: never done anything like this, but it seems to me linked parts would be great for this. score (2pno) and linked parts (each part). the score gives you an excellent idea of how much music can fit and work for both pages as a whole, but make sure to also check music spacing on pno1 stves and pno2 staves separately to see how the layout will look before finalizing the measures to "fit" on each system. generate parts, set page numbers manually in each part. in 2008 you can use plugins to transfer layout settings (if you know how to trick finale) so set pno2 to the pno1 layout definitions. i tihnk this PI doesn't work in 2010. or maybe i haven't triued it since realizing i didn't have the latest TGTools version... ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Chuck Israels 230 North Garden Terrace Bellingham, WA 98225-5836 phone (360) 671-3402 fax (360) 676-6055 www.chuckisraels.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Piano Duet Layout
something not entirely clear here, i meant for the horizontal fit, how many measures in each system by having both parts in one system. never done anything like this, but it seems to me linked parts would be great for this. score (2pno) and linked parts (each part). the score gives you an excellent idea of how much music can fit and work for both pages as a whole, but make sure to also check music spacing on pno1 stves and pno2 staves separately to see how the layout will look before finalizing the measures to "fit" on each system. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Piano Duet Layout
On 10/11/2009 2:28 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: On 11 Oct 2009 at 12:15, Randolph Peters wrote: One quibble: "the bother of having to go to PDFs and interlacing" pales in comparison to the hassle (among other things) of the method listed above. Just drag and drop the PDF pages into the sidebar of Preview or Acrobat and resave the result. Not everyone is on a Mac. Not everyone has Acrobat. I have the PDF995 editing tools, which are free to use if you don't mind seeing the online ads, but it's not so easy as drag-and-drop to stitch together multiple PDFs. "Easy" is always in the eye of the beholder, of course, but on Windows there's a great free command line tool called PDFTK. Given a PDF of left hand (LH) pages and one of right hand (RH) pages, you can interlace with three easy steps: pdftk lh.pdf burst output %04d_a.pdf pdftk rh.pdf burst output %04d_b.pdf pdftk 0*.pdf cat output piano-duet.pdf Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Piano Duet Layout
never done anything like this, but it seems to me linked parts would be great for this. score (2pno) and linked parts (each part). the score gives you an excellent idea of how much music can fit and work for both pages as a whole, but make sure to also check music spacing on pno1 stves and pno2 staves separately to see how the layout will look before finalizing the measures to "fit" on each system. generate parts, set page numbers manually in each part. in 2008 you can use plugins to transfer layout settings (if you know how to trick finale) so set pno2 to the pno1 layout definitions. i tihnk this PI doesn't work in 2010. or maybe i haven't triued it since realizing i didn't have the latest TGTools version... ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Piano Duet Layout
On 11 Oct 2009 at 12:15, Randolph Peters wrote: > One quibble: "the bother of having to go to PDFs and interlacing" > pales in comparison to the hassle (among other things) of the method > listed above. Just drag and drop the PDF pages into the sidebar of > Preview or Acrobat and resave the result. Not everyone is on a Mac. Not everyone has Acrobat. I have the PDF995 editing tools, which are free to use if you don't mind seeing the online ads, but it's not so easy as drag-and-drop to stitch together multiple PDFs. Granted, I'd choose that method over David's, but not everyone has even that option. -- David W. Fentonhttp://dfenton.com David Fenton Associates http://dfenton.com/DFA/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Piano Duet Layout
On 11.10.2009 Randolph Peters wrote: One quibble: "the bother of having to go to PDFs and interlacing" pales in comparison to the hassle (among other things) of the method listed above. Just drag and drop the PDF pages into the sidebar of Preview or Acrobat and resave the result. I agree, except for page numbers which have to be done manually, or within Acrobat. Johannes ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Piano Duet Layout
Michael Lawlor wrote: Does anyone have any advice on how to produce a performing score for piano duet with the secondo part on the left page facing the primo part on the right page? dhbailey replied: You've gotten good replies already -- here's my suggestion: 1) enter the music in page view only; 2) calculate just which measures you want on each set of facing pages; 3) enter the music for each page just as you wish it to appear (forget about playback of anything more than a single page of a single part); 4) create two different page headers, one for the Secondo Part and one for the Primo Part, each set to appear only on left page or right page accordingly; 5) Set the measure number regions, one for each page; This should allow you to end up with a single Finale file which will print just as you wish without the bother of having to go to PDFs and interlacing the pages to get the proper printout. If I've omitted any important step, I'm certain someone will point that out. :-) Thanks for outlining another way of doing things. When it comes to music notation, we need all the tricks we can get. One quibble: "the bother of having to go to PDFs and interlacing" pales in comparison to the hassle (among other things) of the method listed above. Just drag and drop the PDF pages into the sidebar of Preview or Acrobat and resave the result. -Randolph Peters ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Piano Duet Layout
Hi-- The last project I did, I did two separate files. It's really not all that bad to combine the PDFs if you have a tool like CombinePDF (easy and free) or the product that Adobe FrameMaker (not-so-easy and not free) became. On Oct 11, 2009, at 9:16 AM, dhbailey wrote: Michael Lawlor wrote: [Finale 2009] Does anyone have any advice on how to produce a performing score for piano duet with the secondo part on the left page facing the primo part on the right page? Regards, Michael Lawlor ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale You've gotten good replies already -- here's my suggestion: 1) enter the music in page view only; 2) calculate just which measures you want on each set of facing pages; 3) enter the music for each page just as you wish it to appear (forget about playback of anything more than a single page of a single part); 4) create two different page headers, one for the Secondo Part and one for the Primo Part, each set to appear only on left page or right page accordingly; 5) Set the measure number regions, one for each page; This should allow you to end up with a single Finale file which will print just as you wish without the bother of having to go to PDFs and interlacing the pages to get the proper printout. If I've omitted any important step, I'm certain someone will point that out. :-) -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Allen Fisher Founder and Principal Developer Fisher Art and Technology al...@fisherartandtech.com i...@fisherartandtech.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Piano Duet Layout
Michael Lawlor wrote: [Finale 2009] Does anyone have any advice on how to produce a performing score for piano duet with the secondo part on the left page facing the primo part on the right page? Regards, Michael Lawlor ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale You've gotten good replies already -- here's my suggestion: 1) enter the music in page view only; 2) calculate just which measures you want on each set of facing pages; 3) enter the music for each page just as you wish it to appear (forget about playback of anything more than a single page of a single part); 4) create two different page headers, one for the Secondo Part and one for the Primo Part, each set to appear only on left page or right page accordingly; 5) Set the measure number regions, one for each page; This should allow you to end up with a single Finale file which will print just as you wish without the bother of having to go to PDFs and interlacing the pages to get the proper printout. If I've omitted any important step, I'm certain someone will point that out. :-) -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Piano Duet Layout
My solution to this for a score needed "yesterday" was to create two separate files, making sure that each page had the same set of measures. I made PDF's and then combined them, putting the pages in proper order before saving to a single PDF. This method saved me from having to make separate measure regions on each page. Cecil Rigby rigrax at att.net - Original Message - From: Michael Lawlor To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 5:16 AM Subject: [Finale] Piano Duet Layout [Finale 2009] Does anyone have any advice on how to produce a performing score for piano duet with the secondo part on the left page facing the primo part on the right page? Regards, Michael Lawlor ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
