Re: [Finale] Recording problems with save to audio (was lyrics)
On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 6:30 AM, David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com wrote: On 2/5/2012 11:42 PM, Raymond Horton wrote: Finale does not save as MP3. No program does everything. [snip] Yes it does (well, not everything, but it does save as mp3) -- in Fin2012, right in the Export As Audio function where you have to tell the program where to save the audio file and what name to save it under, you get to select whether to save as Standard Audio File (wave) or Compressed mp3 file. In earlier versions I believe there was a similar choice but it was not obvious where to change the setting. Hey, I was wrong - not the first or last time. OK, smarty-pants (and I mean that in the best possible sense of the term) can you, or anyone else, help me with this one, on the same subject? I mentioned that I have often inconsistent results with the Save as Audio function. In December, for a church service, I arranged a score for an ensemble of about 10 instruments that was to accompany a singer. For another service, at which the instrumental ensemble could not be present, the same song and singer was needed, so we wanted accompaniment trax from the Finale file. The music director for that service also runs a small recording studio, and he wanted each instrumental GPO group on a separate WAV file. He was going to sync them up, balance them separately, and add live drums. It was to be about six separate wav files. The first three or four Saved to Audio just fine, but then, with no notice or anything done differently, the remaining Save to Audio WAV files where unusable - the balance would be totally off, even changing balance in the middle of the file, or other problems. So I had to record the remaining files in real time to Audacity. Ever since then Save as Audio results in unusable audio - mostly the resulting wav file is very soft, or most instruments will be soft while the percussion is very loud, etc. As I said, I haven't changed anything. I appreciate any suggestions. Raymond Horton Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC Composer, Arranger VISIT US AT rayhortonmusic.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Recording problems with save to audio (was lyrics)
On 2/6/2012 9:49 AM, Raymond Horton wrote: Hey, I was wrong - not the first or last time. OK, smarty-pants (and I mean that in the best possible sense of the term) can you, or anyone else, help me with this one, on the same subject? I'm not that much of a smarty-pants, sorry to say. (wink, wink) I have no clue why the results would be so vastly different. I assume you rebooted the computer, or at least restarted Finale, and the problem continued? In that case I might try extracting all the parts and then opening each part individually in Finale and saving it as a wave file. Perhaps that might avoid the problem. If it doesn't then I'd look to some expression or other marking that you edited from a different expression which had playback assigned that you forgot to remove. If you export the complete file with all parts as a wave file, does the problem show itself? But none of that would explain why since that time your audio has been off. Perhaps the Mixer window needs to be looked at, or the settings in the Instrument window? Why did the music director want to go to all that extra work re-combining the individual wave files when you, one would assume, had all the balance issues worked out in the Finale file itself. I'm sorry I don't have better answers to help you out. David I mentioned that I have often inconsistent results with the Save as Audio function. In December, for a church service, I arranged a score for an ensemble of about 10 instruments that was to accompany a singer. For another service, at which the instrumental ensemble could not be present, the same song and singer was needed, so we wanted accompaniment trax from the Finale file. The music director for that service also runs a small recording studio, and he wanted each instrumental GPO group on a separate WAV file. He was going to sync them up, balance them separately, and add live drums. It was to be about six separate wav files. The first three or four Saved to Audio just fine, but then, with no notice or anything done differently, the remaining Save to Audio WAV files where unusable - the balance would be totally off, even changing balance in the middle of the file, or other problems. So I had to record the remaining files in real time to Audacity. Ever since then Save as Audio results in unusable audio - mostly the resulting wav file is very soft, or most instruments will be soft while the percussion is very loud, etc. As I said, I haven't changed anything. I appreciate any suggestions. Raymond Horton Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC Composer, Arranger VISIT US AT rayhortonmusic.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Recording problems with save to audio (was lyrics)
On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 10:22 AM, David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com wrote: I have no clue why the results would be so vastly different. I assume you rebooted the computer, or at least restarted Finale, and the problem continued? Yes, I haven't reinstalled, which I am tempted to try. In that case I might try extracting all the parts and then opening each part individually in Finale and saving it as a wave file. Perhaps that might avoid the problem. Yes, that might, in that case. If it doesn't then I'd look to some expression or other marking that you edited from a different expression which had playback assigned that you forgot to remove. I did just discover or re-discover that, if, for example, the tempo marking is in the top stave and that stave is muted, it will be ignored. This might be some clue, in that particular case. If you export the complete file with all parts as a wave file, does the problem show itself? Up to that point it was OK, but I don't think I tried it again after the problem started. But none of that would explain why since that time your audio has been off. Perhaps the Mixer window needs to be looked at, or the settings in the Instrument window? I am 99% certain that none of those changed, because when I recorded directly to Audacity the playback was just what I had set. Why did the music director want to go to all that extra work re-combining the individual wave files when you, one would assume, had all the balance issues worked out in the Finale file itself. Yeah - sensible question. I had mixed it pretty well, but he had the ability to mix in ProTools and wanted to do it. He added himself playing drums instead of the weak drum part I had notated, and had planned on adding guitar until he realized it wasn't needed. The final result sounded VERY much like what I had, even with the live drums, which were light. I'm sorry I don't have better answers to help you out. David I appreciate the effort, and promote you now to Smarty-shirt (!?) I mentioned that I have often inconsistent results with the Save as Audio function. In December, for a church service, I arranged a score for an ensemble of about 10 instruments that was to accompany a singer. For another service, at which the instrumental ensemble could not be present, the same song and singer was needed, so we wanted accompaniment trax from the Finale file. The music director for that service also runs a small recording studio, and he wanted each instrumental GPO group on a separate WAV file. He was going to sync them up, balance them separately, and add live drums. It was to be about six separate wav files. The first three or four Saved to Audio just fine, but then, with no notice or anything done differently, the remaining Save to Audio WAV files where unusable - the balance would be totally off, even changing balance in the middle of the file, or other problems. So I had to record the remaining files in real time to Audacity. Ever since then Save as Audio results in unusable audio - mostly the resulting wav file is very soft, or most instruments will be soft while the percussion is very loud, etc. As I said, I haven't changed anything. I appreciate any suggestions. Raymond Horton Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC Composer, Arranger VISIT US AT rayhortonmusic.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
