[Fink-beginners] More KDE arrrrrgggggghhhhh

[Jeff]

I'm finally getting Fink down, however now that I've downloaded all of bundle-kde-ssl, I'm surprised to see the following error:

Fetched 200MB in 1h15m52s (43.8kB/s)
dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove system-xfree86 which isn't installed.
dpkg (subprocess): failed to exec dpkg-split to see if it's part of a multiparter: No such file or directory
dpkg: error processing /sw/var/cache/apt/archives/audiofile-shlibs_0.2.3-4_darwin-powerpc.deb (--unpack):
subprocess dpkg-split returned error exit status 2
dpkg (subprocess): failed to exec dpkg-split to see if it's part of a multiparter: No such file or directory
dpkg: error processing /sw/var/cache/apt/archives/dlcompat_20030629-5_darwin-powerpc.deb (--unpack):
subprocess dpkg-split returned error exit status 2
dpkg (subprocess): failed to exec dpkg-split to see if it's part of a multiparter: No such file or directory
dpkg: error processing /sw/var/cache/apt/archives/esound-common_0.2.28-1_darwin-powerpc.deb (--unpack):
subprocess dpkg-split returned error exit status 2
dpkg (subprocess): failed to exec dpkg-split to see if it's part of a multiparter: No such file or directory
dpkg: error processing /sw/var/cache/apt/archives/esound-shlibs_0.2.28-1_darwin-powerpc.deb (--unpack):
subprocess dpkg-split returned error exit status 2
dpkg (subprocess): failed to exec dpkg-split to see if it's part of a multiparter: No such file or directory
dpkg: error processing /sw/var/cache/apt/archives/freetype2-shlibs_2.0.9-1_darwin-powerpc.deb (--unpack):
subprocess dpkg-split returned error exit status 2
dpkg (subprocess): failed to exec dpkg-split to see if it's part of a multiparter: No such file or directory
dpkg: error processing /sw/var/cache/apt/archives/dlcompat-shlibs_20030629-5_darwin-powerpc.deb (--unpack):
subprocess dpkg-split returned error exit status 2
dpkg (subprocess): failed to exec dpkg-split to see if it's part of a multiparter: No such file or directory
dpkg: error processing /sw/var/cache/apt/archives/xfree86-shlibs_4.3.0-14_darwin-powerpc.deb (--unpack):
subprocess dpkg-split returned error exit status 2
dpkg (subprocess): failed to exec dpkg-split to see if it's part of a multiparter: No such file or directory
dpkg: error processing /sw/var/cache/apt/archives/xfree86_4.3.0-14_darwin-powerpc.deb (--unpack):
subprocess dpkg-split returned error exit status 2
dpkg (subprocess): failed to exec dpkg-split to see if it's part of a multiparter: No such file or directory
dpkg: error processing /sw/var/cache/apt/archives/type1inst_0.6.1-3_darwin-powerpc.deb (--unpack):
subprocess dpkg-split returned error exit status 2
dpkg (subprocess): failed to exec dpkg-split to see if it's part of a multiparter: No such file or directory
dpkg: error processing /sw/var/cache/apt/archives/ghostscript-fonts_6.0-3_darwin-powerpc.deb (--unpack):
subprocess dpkg-split returned error exit status 2
dpkg (subprocess): failed to exec dpkg-split to see if it's part of a multiparter: No such file or directory
dpkg: error processing /sw/var/cache/apt/archives/libpng3-shlibs_1.2.5-4_darwin-powerpc.deb (--unpack):
subprocess dpkg-split returned error exit status 2
dpkg (subprocess): failed to exec dpkg-split to see if it's part of a multiparter: No such file or directory
dpkg: error processing /sw/var/cache/apt/archives/libjpeg-shlibs_6b-6_darwin-powerpc.deb (--unpack):
subprocess dpkg-split returned error exit status 2
dpkg (subprocess): failed to exec dpkg-split to see if it's part of a multiparter: No such file or directory
dpkg: error processing /sw/var/cache/apt/archives/ghostscript_8.00-3_darwin-powerpc.deb (--unpack):
subprocess dpkg-split returned error exit status 2
dpkg (subprocess): failed to exec dpkg-split to see if it's part of a multiparter: No such file or directory
dpkg: error processing /sw/var/cache/apt/archives/libjpeg-bin_6b-6_darwin-powerpc.deb (--unpack):
subprocess dpkg-split returned error exit status 2
dpkg (subprocess): failed to exec dpkg-split to see if it's part of a multiparter: No such file or directory
dpkg: error processing /sw/var/cache/apt/archives/libogg-shlibs_1.0.0-1_darwin-powerpc.deb (--unpack):
subprocess dpkg-split returned error exit status 2
dpkg (subprocess): failed to exec dpkg-split to see if it's part of a multiparter: No such file or directory
dpkg: error processing /sw/var/cache/apt/archives/libtiff-shlibs_3.5.7-7_darwin-powerpc.deb (--unpack):
subprocess dpkg-split returned error exit status 2
Errors were encountered while processing:
/sw/var/cache/apt/archives/audiofile-shlibs_0.2.3-4_darwin-powerpc.deb
/sw/var/cache/apt/archives/dlcompat_20030629-5_darwin-powerpc.deb
/sw/var/cache/apt/archives/esound-common_0.2.28-1_darwin-powerpc.deb
/sw/var/cache/apt/archives/esound-shlibs_0.2.28-1_darwin-powerpc.deb
/sw/var/cache/apt/archives/freetype2-shlibs_2.0.9-1_darwin-powerpc.deb

/sw/var/cache/apt/archives/dlcompat-shlibs_20030629-5_darwin-powerpc.deb
/sw/var/cache/apt/archives/xfree86-shlibs_4.3.0-14_darwin-powerpc.deb
/sw/var/cache

[Fink-beginners] GTK Error

[Bobby Tehranian]

Hi all,

I was wondering if someone can help me out with a little problem.  I am
running fink on 10.3 using Mac's X11 (X11user.pkg), have installed
developers.mpkg including x11sdk.pkg.  I have also used fink to install
Ethereal (from the source).  If I call ethereal from a regular user account,
I can run it fine.  However if I run it as root, I get the following error
"Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display".  I have checked PATH for both regular
user and root; they are identical.  Is there anything that I am missing??
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Re: [Fink-beginners] xfree86 needs to be reinstalled...

[Alexander Hansen]

It sounds like you're talking about two different packages:  the xfree86-base and xfree86 packages aren't the same thing.  Did you attempt to build xfree86-base?

What do you get if you run "fink list -i xfree86" ?
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On Dec 15, 2003, at 9:13 PM, Jeff wrote:

I downloaded and compiled xfree86base source files--thinking I wanted a newer version of xfree (instead of going with Panther's version of X11).  After compiling the source files, I decided not to complete the installation.  Hence an archive was created.  Now I can't download any binaries without getting the following error:

Reading Package Lists...
Building Dependency Tree...
E: The package xfree86 needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.

Any suggestions on how to get rid of the archive without messing up my X11 install?  I read somewhere where I should force remove the archive but understood it would foul up X11.

Thanks,
Jeff 

[Fink-beginners] xfree86 needs to be reinstalled...

[Jeff]

I downloaded and compiled xfree86base source files--thinking I wanted a newer version of xfree (instead of going with Panther's version of X11).  After compiling the source files, I decided not to complete the installation.  Hence an archive was created.  Now I can't download any binaries without getting the following error:

Reading Package Lists...
Building Dependency Tree...
E: The package xfree86 needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.

Any suggestions on how to get rid of the archive without messing up my X11 install?  I read somewhere where I should force remove the archive but understood it would foul up X11.

Thanks,
Jeff 

Re: [Fink-beginners] MaxOsX10.3 & X11

[Marcus De Luigi]

Then you need to upgrade... if you're getting those shell errors on 
panther then you've got a broken XFree86.
It works now. Thanks to all...

Greetings,
Marcus
On Dec 15, 2003, at 3:48 PM, Benjamin Reed wrote:

Marcus De Luigi wrote:

No, this is fink's X11. But changing the startup-skript only brought 
some now error-messages:
Then you need to upgrade... if you're getting those shell errors on 
panther then you've got a broken XFree86.

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Re: [Fink-beginners] if: Expression syntax

[Martin Costabel]

Martin Costabel wrote:

On 15 déc. 2003, at 08:07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[]
It is the first thing that greets me.  My current $PATH is:

/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/Users/mike:/usr/X11R6/bin :/usr/local/bin/
:/usr/local/bin/ :/usr/local/bin/ :/usr/local/bin/ :/usr/local/bin/
:/usr/local/bin/
.cshrc's only other command is adding /usr/local/bin to the $PATH.  
There is no
.xinitrc file.


We are slowly approaching the source of the problem now. I suppose you 
really
have these spaces in your PATH? Then this is the problem. You have 
something like

setenv PATH "$PATH :/usr/local/bin"

in your .cshrc. 
To close this topic and to keep the record straight: The error message 
in the title was indeed caused by extra spaces in the PATH variable.

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Re: [Fink-beginners] xfree86 4.4.0rc1 vs. apple's x11?

[Alexander K . Hansen]

Verify that you still have system-xfree86 (and splitoffs) by running 
"fink-virtual-pkgs".  Fink should indeed look at any X11 flavor (Apple 
X11 or XFree86) the same way, as long as you have a recent version of 
Fink.

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On Dec 15, 2003, at 4:30 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

hello,

...a few days ago, a release candidate 1 of xfree86 4.4.0 was 
released, and I was so excited I went ahead and installed it over my 
previously installed apple x11 b0.3...then I realized I didn't quite 
know how to tell fink about this!  d'oh...before I do any fink 
updating or anything, does anyone have any idea of what I may need to 
look out for?  Am I right in assuming that fink looks at any 
non-fink-installed xfree86 in the same way?

...btw, my excitement came from the fact that this 4.4.0 version is 
supposed to include apple's improvements to the 10.3-only x11, plus 
other improvements that make it less jaguar-centric...

thanx,
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[Fink-beginners] xfree86 4.4.0rc1 vs. apple's x11?

[tigital]

hello,

...a few days ago, a release candidate 1 of xfree86 4.4.0 was released, 
and I was so excited I went ahead and installed it over my previously 
installed apple x11 b0.3...then I realized I didn't quite know how to 
tell fink about this!  d'oh...before I do any fink updating or 
anything, does anyone have any idea of what I may need to look out for? 
 Am I right in assuming that fink looks at any non-fink-installed 
xfree86 in the same way?

...btw, my excitement came from the fact that this 4.4.0 version is 
supposed to include apple's improvements to the 10.3-only x11, plus 
other improvements that make it less jaguar-centric...

thanx,
jamie


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Re: [Fink-beginners] Fetching packages for older OS releases

[Martin Costabel]

Konrad Hinsen wrote:
I would like to install a couple of packages that are available only as
"unstable" and for 10.2. My machines are running 10.3, so fink says that
  the package is not available. I suspect that there is hardly any
difference, neither the source tar balls nor the package configuration
files depend explicitly on the OS release. I wouldn't mind downloading
the files manually and putting them into local/main, but how I can
convince fink to get me the files?
If you are using selfupdate-rsync, you indeed won't have the package 
descriptions from 10.2-gcc3.3 on your disk. But you can use rsync by 
hand to get anything you want from the server. man rsync explains how. 
If you omit the local directory, you get a listing of available files, 
for example

rsync
rsync://opendarwin.org/finkinfo/10.2-gcc3.3/unstable/main/finkinfo/sci/
shows the contents of the corresponding directory on the server, and

rsync -azv 
rsync://opendarwin.org/finkinfo/10.2-gcc3.3/unstable/main/finkinfo/sci/pymol.\* 
./

downloads the pymol info and patch files. You can even download the 
whole 10.2-gcc3.3 directory via

rsync -azv rsync://opendarwin.org/finkinfo/10.2-gcc3.3 /sw/fink/

Note, however, that the next selfupdate will erase this again.

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Re: [Fink-beginners] if: Expression syntax

[Manuel Bardiès]

OK, I'm not excellent in that, but I seem to recall I had that problem 
once, which was caused, as stated by the Martin and Alexander, by 
another script.
One good way to check, as stated by Martin, would be to type 'source 
/sw/bin/init.csh' in a terminal:
[9:24pm manu ~]% source /sw/bin/init.csh
[9:25pm manu ~]%
You see no 'answer' here, which is the normal behaviour.
As you can see if you look into that file, it's an init file for Fink, 
so if it's not run, you can't use it...

If we look at your PATH variable, it's obvious that /sw/bin and 
/sw/sbin aren't there, so 'something' happened.

My current $PATH is:
/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/Users/mike:/usr/X11R6/bin 
:/usr/local/bin/
:/usr/local/bin/ :/usr/local/bin/ :/usr/local/bin/ :/usr/local/bin/
:/usr/local/bin/
.cshrc's only other command is adding /usr/local/bin to the $PATH.
It does it efficiently it seems... ;-)
Are there other .something files in your home directory?
OK, I can't find what I was looking for right now.
There's something with using source then setting a path in the same 
shell.
Try remove any command AFTER the source /sw/bin/init.csh (comment it by 
a # in the first row), and see if the error persists.

Hope this helps,

Manu



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Re: [Fink-beginners] dselect vs. fink.info files

[Alexander K . Hansen]

On Dec 15, 2003, at 1:55 PM, Joe Koski wrote:

OK, on Fink, is everything compiled from the downloaded source or are 
there
also binary files available? When I use sudo dselect, not all the 
programs
shown as .info files on my hard disk appear in the dselect window.

1) Is this intentional indicating that some programs must be installed 
via
fink install?

Yes.

2) Is there a way of synchronizing the dselect choices to match the 
.info
files?

Only for those packages that you build from source yourself--these can 
be made known to the binary tools on your system if you have lines like

deb file:/sw/fink stable main crypto

in /sw/etc/apt/sources.list

3) Are programs in the "unstable" branch available for binary 
installation,
or must I install them via downloaded source? Right now I don't even 
see the
unstable branch in dselect. Should I?

Unstable packages are only available via source installation.

Thanks. These points have been confusing me for some time now. The FAQ 
on
accessing the "unstable" branch doesn't seem to address these issues. 
Sorry
if this is an FAQ, I didn't see it on my look through.

Thre's some information in the Users Guide, e.g.
http://fink.sourceforge.net/doc/users-guide/packages.php


Joe Koski



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[Fink-beginners] dselect vs. fink.info files

[Joe Koski]

OK, on Fink, is everything compiled from the downloaded source or are there
also binary files available? When I use sudo dselect, not all the programs
shown as .info files on my hard disk appear in the dselect window.

1) Is this intentional indicating that some programs must be installed via
fink install?

2) Is there a way of synchronizing the dselect choices to match the .info
files?

3) Are programs in the "unstable" branch available for binary installation,
or must I install them via downloaded source? Right now I don't even see the
unstable branch in dselect. Should I?

Thanks. These points have been confusing me for some time now. The FAQ on
accessing the "unstable" branch doesn't seem to address these issues. Sorry
if this is an FAQ, I didn't see it on my look through.

Joe Koski



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Re: [Fink-beginners] tutorial

[Gary Tate]

If you want a graphical interface that takes out some of the pain (if 
you are not a command line person) try fink commander.  It has a good 
manual to get you going.  You can also see the commands used in the 
info window so you can see what command line is used for various tasks.

gary

On Dec 15, 2003, at 9:10 AM, Alexander K.Hansen wrote:

What you actually install is a "package", which can contain multiple 
programs, libraries, headers, and documentation.

In general, you run a program by typing its name in a terminal window. 
 For example

$ fink

typed at a prompt (the $) runs the "fink" command.

If you are trying to run something that needs X11 to run, then you 
have to start X11 first.

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On Dec 15, 2003, at 11:27 AM, D. Roach wrote:

Im new to fink and wondered if there is a good
tutorial describing the basics. How do you run a
program once its been installed? Sorry, Im an absolute beginner...


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[Fink-beginners] Updating Problem

[Warren Gallin]

Hi folks,

	I am doing an update-all, have a list of about 104 packages to update 
and 7 additional ones to install.

	The first to update is:

Do you want to continue? [Y/n]
/bin/rm -rf bonobo-activation2-1.0.3-22
/bin/mkdir -p /sw/src/bonobo-activation2-1.0.3-22
bzip2 -dc /sw/src/bonobo-activation-1.0.3.tar.bz2 | /sw/bin/tar -xf -
patch -p1 

patching file configure
patching file ltmain.sh
./configure --prefix=/sw --libexecdir=/sw/lib/bonobo-activation2 
--mandir=/sw/share/man

Compiling proceeds, but at the end of the compilation the following 
error messages appear:

sw/include/glib-2.0 -I/sw/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/sw/include/orbit-2.0 
-I/sw/include/linc-1.0 -DVERSION=\"1.0.3\" -DG_DISABLE_DEPRECATED 
-no-cpp-precomp -I/sw/include -O3 -funroll-loops -fstrict-aliasing -c 
bonobo-activation-fork-server.c  -fno-common -DPIC -o 
bonobo-activation-fork-server.lo
bonobo-activation-fork-server.c: In function 
`bonobo_activation_server_by_forking':
bonobo-activation-fork-server.c:289: error: `LincWatch' undeclared 
(first use in this function)
bonobo-activation-fork-server.c:289: error: (Each undeclared identifier 
is reported only once
bonobo-activation-fork-server.c:289: error: for each function it 
appears in.)
bonobo-activation-fork-server.c:289: error: `watch' undeclared (first 
use in this function)
make[2]: *** [bonobo-activation-fork-server.lo] Error 1
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2
### execution of make failed, exit code 2
Failed: compiling bonobo-activation2-1.0.3-22 failed

ANy ideas on what to do to fix this?

Warren Gallin



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Re: [Fink-beginners] tutorial

[Alexander K . Hansen]

What you actually install is a "package", which can contain multiple 
programs, libraries, headers, and documentation.

In general, you run a program by typing its name in a terminal window.  
For example

$ fink

typed at a prompt (the $) runs the "fink" command.

If you are trying to run something that needs X11 to run, then you have 
to start X11 first.

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On Dec 15, 2003, at 11:27 AM, D. Roach wrote:

Im new to fink and wondered if there is a good
tutorial describing the basics. How do you run a
program once its been installed? Sorry, Im an absolute beginner...


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Re: [Fink-beginners] Fetching packages for older OS releases

[Alexander K . Hansen]

Not quite correct:  there are indeed OS-specific differences in some of 
the packages.  The tarballs are identical, but the stuff that goes into 
the .info and .patch files may be different.  What you can try is to 
copy the .info and .patch files from 10.2(-gcc3.3)/unstable into 
10.3/local/main, run "fink index", which should make the packages 
available, You can then try to run a build using "fink install" as 
usual.  If it succeeds, and the executables work, too, you should let 
the package maintainer know that the package builds and runs on 10.3.
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On Dec 15, 2003, at 11:47 AM, Konrad Hinsen wrote:

I would like to install a couple of packages that are available only as
"unstable" and for 10.2. My machines are running 10.3, so fink says 
that
  the package is not available. I suspect that there is hardly any
difference, neither the source tar balls nor the package configuration
files depend explicitly on the OS release. I wouldn't mind downloading
the files manually and putting them into local/main, but how I can
convince fink to get me the files?

Konrad.





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[Fink-beginners] Fetching packages for older OS releases

[Konrad Hinsen]

I would like to install a couple of packages that are available only as
"unstable" and for 10.2. My machines are running 10.3, so fink says that
  the package is not available. I suspect that there is hardly any
difference, neither the source tar balls nor the package configuration
files depend explicitly on the OS release. I wouldn't mind downloading
the files manually and putting them into local/main, but how I can
convince fink to get me the files?
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[Fink-beginners] tutorial

[D. Roach]

Im new to fink and wondered if there is a good
tutorial describing the basics. How do you run a
program once its been installed? Sorry, Im an absolute beginner...

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[Fink-beginners] Re: 10.3, X11 & grace

[Konrad Hinsen]

Gérard Degrez wrote:

I just got a new laptop running Panther. I installed Apple's X11 and I 
got to make a fresh install of Fink and my favourite packages, in 
particular grace.

2 problems occur:
1) it insists in installing xfree86 rather than system-xfree86, although 
it looks like this can be ignored.
2) grace doesn't find /sw/lib/libpdf.2.dylib (which is indeed not there).

dyld: grace can't open library: /sw/lib/libpdf.2.dylib  (No
such file or directory, errno = 2)
What should I do to get this missing library?
Just install pdflib. You can even install it after grace. Probably it is 
not properly listed in the dependencies.

As for your X11 problem, I had exactly the same. Here is what worked for me:

1) Install the X11 SDK from the Apple CD
2) Install all the prerequisites for grace with apt-get
3) Install grace from source
I can also send you my package file if you prefer.

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[Fink-beginners] XFREE86 & FINK

[Jeff]

Is there any reason to install Fink's XFREE86 over X11 that came with 
Panther?

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[Fink-beginners] Moving windows and Covered up windows in X11

[So UniQ]

Two issues that I'm having. When I run Apple's X11 with Blackbox (or any other
WM besides quartz), I can't see the "outline" of the window that I'm moving, so
I'm always BLINDLY placing them when they appear. Lastly, it seems that no
matter what placement option I choose, windows this aapear, often, covered up
by the menu bar. I looked at some notes on the new X11 and it seems like this
was fixed (Apple's X11). Is this not true??  Should I just go ahead and stick
with Fink's X11??

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Re: [Fink-beginners] MaxOsX10.3 & X11

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Marcus De Luigi wrote:

No, this is fink's X11. But changing the startup-skript only brought 
some now error-messages:
Then you need to upgrade... if you're getting those shell errors on 
panther then you've got a broken XFree86.

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Re: [Fink-beginners] xine...

[Alexander K. hansen]

xine is only "special" in that it requires threading in X11, which 
should be supported by X11 in Panther.

Since it's unmaintained, I recommend sending a message to fink-devel:  
that's the channel for existing but unmaintained packages.

As for getting current versions, the best way is to try to build the 
packages, and ask on fink-devel about any problems that show up.
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On Dec 15, 2003, at 2:16 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I realize that I am stepping into a potential minefield with these 
questions, but I promise that I really did try to find the answers to 
these questions and I am looking for constructive suggestions.

1.  I tried to build xine (xine-lib-1-rc2) and was unable too...  I 
checked with xine mailing lists and found the post: 
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=6421670 which 
says: use fink as apple does weird complier things...

2. Fink does not have current-10.3 package (of any kind) for xine and 
there is no maintainer listed [but it does have an old unstable 
package suggesting that just submitting a package request is not 
appropriate].

3. How is the best way to:
a. find out the status of these sorts of packages [in but not current 
& w/o a maintainer]?
b. I realize that xine is a "special" package 
[http://fink.sourceforge.net/doc/x11/inst-xfree86.php], are there 
basic X11 issues here?
c. help get current versions of things like xine into Fink?

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Re: [Fink-beginners] $PATH for Apple X11

[Alexander K. hansen]

Also check out  
http://fink.sourceforge.net/doc/x11/inst-xfree86.php#apple-binary
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On Dec 15, 2003, at 5:52 AM, Steffen Lund Hokland wrote:

Hi, all

Sorry if this has been up before, but I couldn't find it in the  
archives.

I can't run Fink binaries in Apples X11. Writing

kanwax:~ hokland$ echo $PATH
/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/Users/hokland:/usr/X11R6/bin
However in Terminal.app:
kanwax:~ hokland$ echo $PATH
/sw/bin:/sw/sbin:/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/ 
local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current:/usr/X11R6/bin

I created a .bashrc file in ~ containing a line

source .profile

which then added the /sw part of the path to $PATH, however this  
doesn't seem very elegant - and I don't know what effect this has on  
Terminal.app. In any case, the GW-teTeX part of the path is still  
absent.

To make a long story short:
Is there a way that I can make X11 read the same init-files as  
Terminal.app does (pointing me to a relevant link, will be fine of  
course :-) ).

Thanks in advance,
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Re: [Fink-beginners] $PATH for Apple X11

[Eric Hoch]

Hi Steffen, 
On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 11:52:56 +0100, Steffen Lund Hokland wrote:
> To make a long story short:
> Is there a way that I can make X11 read the same init-files as 
> Terminal.app does (pointing me to a relevant link, will be fine 
> of course :-) ).

Take a look here in documentation: 


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Re: [Fink-beginners] MaxOsX10.3 & X11

[Alexander K. hansen]

What version of the xfree86 package do you have installed?  If it's 
just 4.3.0-* then you need to selfupdate (as Ben said).
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On Dec 15, 2003, at 8:45 AM, Marcus De Luigi wrote:

If this is apple's X11, you'll have to edit startx and change any of 
the "XCOMM"s to "#".  If not, you need to do a "fink 
selfupdate-rsync" or "fink selfupdate-cvs" to get the latest X11 that 
fixes that bug in our X11 package(s).
No, this is fink's X11. But changing the startup-skript only brought 
some now error-messages:

8<
2003-12-15 14:42:19.308 XDarwin[386] No Info.plist file in application 
bundle or no NSPrincipalClass in the Info.plist file, exiting

giving up.
xinit:  No such file or directory (errno 2):  unable to connect to X 
server
xinit:  No such process (errno 3):  Server error.
>8

On Dec 15, 2003, at 1:39 PM, Benjamin Reed wrote:

Marcus De Luigi wrote:
Hello!
I tried to install X11 on my new laptop running Mac OS X 10.3 and 
fink 0.16.2.
But when i type "startx" i get the following error message:
8<--
$startx
/usr/X11R6/bin/startx: line 49: syntax error near unexpected token 
`'''
/usr/X11R6/bin/startx: line 49: `XCOMM '' required to prevent 
cpp from treating "/*" as a C comment.'
>8-
I found a mail in the mailing list archive, saying that the startup 
script should work in bash. But i'm running bash and it still fails.
If this is apple's X11, you'll have to edit startx and change any of 
the "XCOMM"s to "#".  If not, you need to do a "fink 
selfupdate-rsync" or "fink selfupdate-cvs" to get the latest X11 that 
fixes that bug in our X11 package(s).

I'm still not sure if it'll actually work after that, though...  
Apple really doesn't test the command-line bits of their X11 as far 
as I'm aware.

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[Fink-beginners] Removing qt (Trolltech)

[Wolfgang Burgstaller]

Hello Benjamin,

I recently have installed the qt - package from fink. Since I want to 
give my qt application to a friend who does not want to install X I've 
decided to install the current native QT from trolltech. Therefore I've 
to uninstall the qt-package because of conflicting libraries. Right?
Is it a good idea just to remove qt files and libraries as such or are 
there any dependencies?

Thank you for your support

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Re: [Fink-beginners] MaxOsX10.3 & X11

[Marcus De Luigi]

If this is apple's X11, you'll have to edit startx and change any of 
the "XCOMM"s to "#".  If not, you need to do a "fink selfupdate-rsync" 
or "fink selfupdate-cvs" to get the latest X11 that fixes that bug in 
our X11 package(s).
No, this is fink's X11. But changing the startup-skript only brought 
some now error-messages:

8<
2003-12-15 14:42:19.308 XDarwin[386] No Info.plist file in application 
bundle or no NSPrincipalClass in the Info.plist file, exiting

giving up.
xinit:  No such file or directory (errno 2):  unable to connect to X 
server
xinit:  No such process (errno 3):  Server error.
>8

On Dec 15, 2003, at 1:39 PM, Benjamin Reed wrote:

Marcus De Luigi wrote:
Hello!
I tried to install X11 on my new laptop running Mac OS X 10.3 and 
fink 0.16.2.
But when i type "startx" i get the following error message:
8<--
$startx
/usr/X11R6/bin/startx: line 49: syntax error near unexpected token 
`'''
/usr/X11R6/bin/startx: line 49: `XCOMM '' required to prevent cpp 
from treating "/*" as a C comment.'
>8-
I found a mail in the mailing list archive, saying that the startup 
script should work in bash. But i'm running bash and it still fails.
If this is apple's X11, you'll have to edit startx and change any of 
the "XCOMM"s to "#".  If not, you need to do a "fink selfupdate-rsync" 
or "fink selfupdate-cvs" to get the latest X11 that fixes that bug in 
our X11 package(s).

I'm still not sure if it'll actually work after that, though...  Apple 
really doesn't test the command-line bits of their X11 as far as I'm 
aware.

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Re: [Fink-beginners] MaxOsX10.3 & X11

[Benjamin Reed]

Marcus De Luigi wrote:
Hello!

I tried to install X11 on my new laptop running Mac OS X 10.3 and fink 
0.16.2.
But when i type "startx" i get the following error message:

8<--
$startx
/usr/X11R6/bin/startx: line 49: syntax error near unexpected token `'''
/usr/X11R6/bin/startx: line 49: `XCOMM '' required to prevent cpp 
from treating "/*" as a C comment.'
>8-

I found a mail in the mailing list archive, saying that the startup 
script should work in bash. But i'm running bash and it still fails.
If this is apple's X11, you'll have to edit startx and change any of the 
"XCOMM"s to "#".  If not, you need to do a "fink selfupdate-rsync" or 
"fink selfupdate-cvs" to get the latest X11 that fixes that bug in our 
X11 package(s).

I'm still not sure if it'll actually work after that, though...  Apple 
really doesn't test the command-line bits of their X11 as far as I'm aware.

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Re: [Fink-beginners] if: Expression syntax

[Martin Costabel]

On 15 déc. 2003, at 08:07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Still not clear: This error message, is it "the first thing that 
greets"
you, or do you type "source .cshrc" to get it? Or, do you perhaps have
"source .cshrc" in your .xinitrc or what?
It is the first thing that greets me.  My current $PATH is:

/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/Users/mike:/usr/X11R6/bin 
:/usr/local/bin/
:/usr/local/bin/ :/usr/local/bin/ :/usr/local/bin/ :/usr/local/bin/
:/usr/local/bin/

.cshrc's only other command is adding /usr/local/bin to the $PATH.  
There is no
.xinitrc file.
We are slowly approaching the source of the problem now. I suppose you 
really
have these spaces in your PATH? Then this is the problem. You have 
something like

setenv PATH "$PATH :/usr/local/bin"

in your .cshrc. This will break any number of things, not only a 
command like

if ( $?PATH ) then

in /sw/bin/init.csh
(Besides, it is not a good idea to add PATH elements in .cshrc, the 
PATH will grow
longer and longer over time. You usually do this in a .login, or you do 
it like
/sw/bin/init.csh, with the command append_path that is defined there.)

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[Fink-beginners] $PATH for Apple X11

[Steffen Lund Hokland]

Hi, all

Sorry if this has been up before, but I couldn't find it in the  
archives.

I can't run Fink binaries in Apples X11. Writing

kanwax:~ hokland$ echo $PATH
/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/Users/hokland:/usr/X11R6/bin
However in Terminal.app:
kanwax:~ hokland$ echo $PATH
/sw/bin:/sw/sbin:/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/ 
local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current:/usr/X11R6/bin

I created a .bashrc file in ~ containing a line

source .profile

which then added the /sw part of the path to $PATH, however this  
doesn't seem very elegant - and I don't know what effect this has on  
Terminal.app. In any case, the GW-teTeX part of the path is still  
absent.

To make a long story short:
Is there a way that I can make X11 read the same init-files as  
Terminal.app does (pointing me to a relevant link, will be fine of  
course :-) ).

Thanks in advance,
Steffen


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[Fink-beginners] MaxOsX10.3 & X11

[Marcus De Luigi]

Hello!

I tried to install X11 on my new laptop running Mac OS X 10.3 and fink 
0.16.2.
But when i type "startx" i get the following error message:

8<--
$startx
/usr/X11R6/bin/startx: line 49: syntax error near unexpected token `'''
/usr/X11R6/bin/startx: line 49: `XCOMM '' required to prevent cpp 
from treating "/*" as a C comment.'
>8-

I found a mail in the mailing list archive, saying that the startup 
script should work in bash. But i'm running bash and it still fails.

Greetinx,
Marcus


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Re: [Fink-beginners] 10.3, X11 & grace

[Gérard Degrez]

Yes, if you stay with fink-0.16.2, you need the DeveloperTools.pkg, 
not only the X11SDK.pkg, in order to get /usr/bin/nm. It should be 
possible to upgrade fink to 0.17.1 without dev tools: Download
http://us.dl.sf.net/fink/fink-0.17.1.tar.gz
unpack it, cd into the fink-0.17.1 directory and run sudo ./inject.pl.
Just a question of detail: what do you mean exactly by "fink-0.17.1" 
directory?
There's no such directory on my system, and no "fink-0.16.2" 
directory either. Do you just mean /sw/fink?
Please ignore this stupid question: the "fink-0.17.1" directory is of 
course created by the untar.

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Re: [Fink-beginners] 10.3, X11 & grace

[Gérard Degrez]

Well, I think this can be the origin of the 
problem. I didn't install SDK (I was misled by 
the following statement in the on-line doc:
Under fink-0.17.0 and later (currently in 
unstable), installing the X11 SDK is only 
necessary if you want to build packages from 
source. In this case, even if you don't have 
the SDK, there will be a system-xfree86virtual 
package. If you do install the SDK, there will 
also be a system-xfree86-shlibs package and 
asystem-xfree86-dev package, representing the 
libraries and headers, respectively.

I was confused between the distribution version 
and the package manager version. As mentioned 
earlier, the package manager version is 0.16.2, 
which means I need SDK.
Yes, if you stay with fink-0.16.2, you need the 
DeveloperTools.pkg, not only the X11SDK.pkg, in 
order to get /usr/bin/nm. It should be possible 
to upgrade fink to 0.17.1 without dev tools: 
Download
http://us.dl.sf.net/fink/fink-0.17.1.tar.gz
unpack it, cd into the fink-0.17.1 directory and run sudo ./inject.pl.
Just a question of detail: what do you mean exactly by "fink-0.17.1" directory?
There's no such directory on my system, and no 
"fink-0.16.2" directory either. Do you just mean 
/sw/fink?

Gérard Degrez

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Re: [Fink-beginners] 10.3, X11 & grace

[Gérard Degrez]

Gary,

Thanks for your detailed instructions. I hadn't 
installed X11SDK the first time indeed.
So, I removed completely my previous installation 
and reinstalled according to you instructions. 
But I don't get quite the right output of 
fink-virtual-pkgs:
Package: system-xfree86
Status: install ok installed
Version: 2:4.3-1
description: [placeholder for user installed x11]
provides: x11, x11-shlibs, libgl, libgl-shlibs, 
xft2, xft1-shlibs, xft2-shlibs, rman, 
fontconfig1, fontconfig1-shlibs

Package: system-xfree86
Status: install ok installed
Version: 2:4.3-1
provides: x11, x11-shlibs, libgl, libgl-shlibs, 
xft2, xft1-shlibs, xft2-shlibs, rman, 
fontconfig1, fontconfig1-shlibs, 
xfree86-base-threaded-shlibs, 
xfree86-base-threaded
description: [placeholder for user installed x11]
I'm missing xfree86-base-threaded-shlibs, 
xfree86-base-threaded which I fear will be 
important for installing grace.

Now, the only thing I didn't follow in your 
instructions is that I installed X11SDK from the 
file residing on my system 
(/Applications/Installers/Developer 
Tools/Packages/X11SDK.pkg, 5.1MB) rather than 
from the Install CDs (as I don't have the CDs 
with me at the moment).

Any idea?

Gérard Degrez

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[Fink-beginners] xine...

[matthew . kosnik]

I realize that I am stepping into a potential minefield with these 
questions, but I promise that I really did try to find the answers to 
these questions and I am looking for constructive suggestions.

1.  I tried to build xine (xine-lib-1-rc2) and was unable too...  I 
checked with xine mailing lists and found the post: 
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=6421670 which 
says: use fink as apple does weird complier things...

2. Fink does not have current-10.3 package (of any kind) for xine and 
there is no maintainer listed [but it does have an old unstable package 
suggesting that just submitting a package request is not appropriate].

3. How is the best way to:
a. find out the status of these sorts of packages [in but not current & 
w/o a maintainer]?
b. I realize that xine is a "special" package 
[http://fink.sourceforge.net/doc/x11/inst-xfree86.php], are there basic 
X11 issues here?
c. help get current versions of things like xine into Fink?

MAK



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Re: [Fink-beginners] if: Expression syntax

[mhsiegel]

> Still not clear: This error message, is it "the first thing that greets" 
> you, or do you type "source .cshrc" to get it? Or, do you perhaps have 
> "source .cshrc" in your .xinitrc or what?

It is the first thing that greets me.  My current $PATH is:

/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/Users/mike:/usr/X11R6/bin :/usr/local/bin/ 
:/usr/local/bin/ :/usr/local/bin/ :/usr/local/bin/ :/usr/local/bin/ 
:/usr/local/bin/

.cshrc's only other command is adding /usr/local/bin to the $PATH.  There is no 
.xinitrc file.

I *have* installed IRAF (astronomy data processing software) with xgterm and 
ds9.  But these are not in the /sw directory.  They are the only things I can 
think of that could cause interference.  But other astronomers do not have this 
problem.

Sorry if I'm not being clear or not providing enough details.  You'd think after 
ten years of UNIX, I'd figure out this stuff, but my problem-solving method is 
usually e-mailing the computer support guys.

Thanks for your help,

-M



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