Re: [Fink-beginners] "offline-update" with PB G3 and eMac G4

2004-07-27 Thread Alexander K. Hansen
On Jul 27, 2004, at 9:48 AM, Markus Kamp wrote:
Hi, List!
Here's my question:
I own both a PowerBook G3 (Pismo) and an eMac (1st Rev., G4-700)
My only access to the internet is a WLAN Hotspot on the campus, where 
I log in with the Pismo.
I am using Fink on both Machines, the fink installation on the eMac 
was not updated since i moved.

For the future, I am planning to use the same fink packages on Pismo 
and eMac by simply rsyncing the /sw Folders from  Pismo to eMac.
Does this work or should I take another approach?
Since I am using some source packages I am wondering if the packages 
are compiled specifically for G3 or G4, depending on which Processor 
fink is run.

 Thanks, Markus

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Markus Kamp mail:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hahnerberger Str. 111
42349 Wuppertal

This should be fine--Fink is set up such that packages you build will 
work on any Mac (except for packages that specifically won't work on a 
G3).

--
Alexander Hansen
Fink Documentarian
[Day Job] Levitated Dipole Experiment
http://www.psfc.mit.edu/LDX

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Re: [Fink-beginners] "offline-update" with PB G3 and eMac G4

2004-07-27 Thread lj Palmer
On Jul 27, 2004, at 07:59, Alexander K. Hansen wrote:
On Jul 27, 2004, at 9:48 AM, Markus Kamp wrote:
Hi, List!
Here's my question:
I own both a PowerBook G3 (Pismo) and an eMac (1st Rev., G4-700)
My only access to the internet is a WLAN Hotspot on the campus, where 
I log in with the Pismo.
I am using Fink on both Machines, the fink installation on the eMac 
was not updated since i moved.

For the future, I am planning to use the same fink packages on Pismo 
and eMac by simply rsyncing the /sw Folders from  Pismo to eMac.
Does this work or should I take another approach?
Since I am using some source packages I am wondering if the packages 
are compiled specifically for G3 or G4, depending on which Processor 
fink is run.

 Thanks, Markus

--
Markus Kamp mail:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hahnerberger Str. 111
42349 Wuppertal

This should be fine--Fink is set up such that packages you build will 
work on any Mac (except for packages that specifically won't work on a 
G3).
One issue. Some packages have an affect on the system so this method is 
NOT 100%.  I have not found a list of these packages, but it seems to 
be relatively short. The one I know for sure is "passwd".
But this can be easily dealt with by doing a reinstall. { Example: fink 
reinstall passwd}

..lj

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Re: [Fink-beginners] "offline-update" with PB G3 and eMac G4

2004-07-27 Thread Alexander K. Hansen
On Jul 27, 2004, at 12:09 PM, lj Palmer wrote:
On Jul 27, 2004, at 07:59, Alexander K. Hansen wrote:
On Jul 27, 2004, at 9:48 AM, Markus Kamp wrote:
Hi, List!
Here's my question:
I own both a PowerBook G3 (Pismo) and an eMac (1st Rev., G4-700)
My only access to the internet is a WLAN Hotspot on the campus, 
where I log in with the Pismo.
I am using Fink on both Machines, the fink installation on the eMac 
was not updated since i moved.

For the future, I am planning to use the same fink packages on Pismo 
and eMac by simply rsyncing the /sw Folders from  Pismo to eMac.
Does this work or should I take another approach?
Since I am using some source packages I am wondering if the packages 
are compiled specifically for G3 or G4, depending on which Processor 
fink is run.

 Thanks, Markus

--
Markus Kamp mail:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hahnerberger Str. 111
42349 Wuppertal

This should be fine--Fink is set up such that packages you build will 
work on any Mac (except for packages that specifically won't work on 
a G3).
One issue. Some packages have an affect on the system so this method 
is NOT 100%.  I have not found a list of these packages, but it seems 
to be relatively short. The one I know for sure is "passwd".
But this can be easily dealt with by doing a reinstall. { Example: 
fink reinstall passwd}

..lj

passwd and daemonic both do things outside the Fink tree, as well as 
xfree86.

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Alexander Hansen
Fink Documentarian
[Day Job] Levitated Dipole Experiment
http://www.psfc.mit.edu/LDX

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Re: [Fink-beginners] "offline-update" with PB G3 and eMac G4

2004-07-27 Thread Kevin Horton
At 15:48 +0200 27/7/04, Markus Kamp wrote:
Hi, List!
Here's my question:
I own both a PowerBook G3 (Pismo) and an eMac (1st Rev., G4-700)
My only access to the internet is a WLAN Hotspot on the campus, 
where I log in with the Pismo.
I am using Fink on both Machines, the fink installation on the eMac 
was not updated since i moved.

For the future, I am planning to use the same fink packages on Pismo 
and eMac by simply rsyncing the /sw Folders from  Pismo to eMac.
Does this work or should I take another approach?
Since I am using some source packages I am wondering if the packages 
are compiled specifically for G3 or G4, depending on which Processor 
fink is run.

 Thanks, Markus
I've had good success using a technique explained by Benjamin Reed on his blog:
http://ranger.befunk.com/blog/archives/000258.html
Text of the blog entry:
Sharing the Fink
I was recently asked how to share software between more than one fink 
installation. This is usually because the person has 2 (or more) 
machines, only one of which is fast. =) It's pretty easy to share 
binaries you've built on one system with another. Here's how (keep in 
mind these instructions will generally only work if each system is 
running the same major version of Mac OS X):

 Install Fink on the "master" (build) system.
 (If the clients already have fink installed, you can skip this 
step.) Copy /sw to the "client" systems. First you must enable 
"Remote Login" on the "master" box. Then, run the following on each 
of the "client" machines:

sudo rsync -avzr -e ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/sw/ /sw/
Just replace [EMAIL PROTECTED] above with the username and hostname of 
the system to copy from.

This will make a clone of the fink installation on your "master" box 
on each of the clients.

 On the "master" box, build something, and then run 
"fink scanpackages". This will make fink generate apt indexes for all 
of your enabled trees.

 On the "master" box, enable "Personal Web Sharing" in the Sharing 
section of System Preferences, and then set up httpd to expose your 
/sw/fink directory externally. I do so by making an 
/etc/httpd/users/fink.conf file that contains:

Alias /fink /sw/fink

  Options Indexes FollowSymLinks

...and then run "sudo /usr/sbin/apachectl graceful" to (re)start.
 On the "client" box(es), edit /sw/etc/apt/sources.list, and add the 
lines representing your fink trees. For example, if my IP address of 
my build box at home is 192.168.42.7, the client would add:

deb http://192.168.42.7/fink stable main crypto
deb http://192.168.42.7/fink unstable main crypto
deb http://192.168.42.7/fink local main
 On the "client" box(es), run "sudo apt-get update". If all goes 
well, you should see something like:

Hit http://192.168.42.7 stable/main Packages
Hit http://192.168.42.7 stable/main Release
Hit http://192.168.42.7 stable/crypto Packages ...and so on
You should then be able to do "sudo apt-get install " for 
anything that's been built on the "master" box. Any time you build 
more stuff there, you will need to re-run "fink scanpackages" on the 
master, and "sudo apt-get update" on the client(s).

===
I use this technique to build unstable packages on my G4 Dual, and 
then update two laptops from the G4.

Kevin Horton

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