Re: [Fink-devel] apache sharing

2002-03-28 Thread Max Horn

At 22:29 Uhr + 27.03.2002, Finlay Dobbie wrote:
On Wednesday, March 27, 2002, at 09:15 PM, Bill Bumgarner wrote:

The fink installed apache doesn't support OS X's out of the box 
'Web Sharing' feature.  This is problematic.

It means that if one wants to use Fink to install various apache 
related features, one loses a significant chunk of OS X related 
functionality.

Not really able to fix the start/stop button without breaking Fink's 
packaging guidelines. For the conf issues, it might be possible to 
hack up /sw/etc/httpd.conf or something.

Indeed, that is trivial. Apache has this features on all systems, 
Apple only made it use their (for a Unix, non-standard) location of 
the user/site directories.

I have patched my own httpd.conf long ago to work fine, just like the 
built-in Apache does.


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Re: [Fink-devel] fun fun fun! minicom is done!

2002-03-28 Thread Chris Zubrzycki

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 Ok, minicom is in the tracker, as well as lrzsz, which is a set of 
 x,y,and zmodem programs which minicom can use.

 I believe there is already a lrzsz-0.12.20-1.info in CVS. Did you check 
 that?
oops...  :-)

o well, it was a good learning experience. The one in unstable is 
missing a build depends (gettext), and I added more docs, but yes, they 
are the same.


 I never owned a modem during the past 9 years, so I can't tell. (if you 
 are curious, back then we started using ISDN, and nowadays it's DSL 
 with ISDN as fallback if our ISP screws up - which luckily only happens 
 once every half year or so g).

lucky you.

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Re: [Fink-devel] fun fun fun! minicom is done!

2002-03-28 Thread jan . ruzicka

:-((  where is the package ??

I don't see it.  :-(((

Buaa  ;'-   I want to play with minicom.

Jan



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 Ok, minicom is in the tracker, as well as lrzsz, which is a set of 
 x,y,and zmodem programs which minicom can use.
 they build fine on my machine. The only thing I'm not sure about is I 
 set the default port to /dev/tty.modem. I saw somewhere that said 
 /dev/cu.modem should be used. does anyone know for sure which should be 
 used for modem/serial console use?

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Re: [Fink-devel] fun fun fun! minicom is done!

2002-03-28 Thread Chris Zubrzycki

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its in the package submission tracker...go to 
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?atid=414256group_id=17203
get the minicom files, and if you want kermit support, get that file 
too. then do:
sudo mkdir -p /sw/fink/dists/local/main/finkinfo/net
(assimg u installed in /sw)
and put the 2 or 3 files in there.
On Thursday, March 28, 2002, at 08:40  AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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 :-((  where is the package ??

 I don't see it.  :-(((

 Buaa  ;'-   I want to play with minicom.

 Jan



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 Ok, minicom is in the tracker, as well as lrzsz, which is a set of 
 x,y,and zmodem programs which minicom can use.
 they build fine on my machine. The only thing I'm not sure about is I 
 set the default port to /dev/tty.modem. I saw somewhere that said 
 /dev/cu.modem should be used. does anyone know for sure which should 
 be used for modem/serial console use?

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Re: [Fink-devel] fun fun fun! minicom is done!

2002-03-28 Thread Max Horn

At 8:26 Uhr -0500 28.03.2002, Chris Zubrzycki wrote:
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On Thursday, March 28, 2002, at 06:40  AM, Max Horn wrote:

At 23:01 Uhr -0500 27.03.2002, Chris Zubrzycki wrote:
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Ok, minicom is in the tracker, as well as lrzsz, which is a set of 
x,y,and zmodem programs which minicom can use.

I believe there is already a lrzsz-0.12.20-1.info in CVS. Did you check that?
oops...  :-)

o well, it was a good learning experience. The one in unstable is 
missing a build depends (gettext),

Nope, it's not. gettext is an essential package, you just don't have 
to explicilty depend on it.


  and I added more docs, but yes, they are the same.

If you think more docs should be in, please contact the package maintainer.


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Re: [Fink-devel] fun fun fun! minicom is done!

2002-03-28 Thread jan . ruzicka


Hi all

Minicom is cool !!!
I just updated fink and installed minicom.
  Cool, it compiles and works.

I like those presents.
Fink is like christmas every day.

Jan

On Thursday, March 28, 2002, at 08:52 AM, Chris Zubrzycki wrote:

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 its in the package submission tracker...go to 
 http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?atid=414256group_id=17203
 get the minicom files, and if you want kermit support, get that file 
 too. then do:
 sudo mkdir -p /sw/fink/dists/local/main/finkinfo/net
 (assimg u installed in /sw)
 and put the 2 or 3 files in there.
 On Thursday, March 28, 2002, at 08:40  AM, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 :-((  where is the package ??

 I don't see it.  :-(((

 Buaa  ;'-   I want to play with minicom.

 Jan



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[Fink-devel] 3rd Party

2002-03-28 Thread bbum


Max,

I can understand your position and respect the desire not to dilute 
the Fink policy unless absolutely positively necessary, even if-- in this 
one case-- I disagree.

And I *fully* support your proposal regarding a third party section.  
I actually have a few Fink packages I have put together that will never be 
accepted because they completely violate policy; the most notable being 
the Jode package (as it installs a binary).

It would be nice if there was a mechanism for injecting a hunk of 
.info files into fink;  ones that are completely unsupported or totally 
local.

b.bum


On Thursday, March 28, 2002, at 03:41 PM, fink-devel-
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 Instead, ship them as a add-on module. In fact, I'd be willing to
 discuss the idea of hosting them at the Fink site, in a special
 3rd-party section. The idea being that we clearly say: these
 packages are not by the core Fink team, we don't provide support for
 them; but still they should work OK. Or alternatively, if you'd
 prefer, we could add a link from our Link section to the,.

b.bum
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Re: [Fink-devel] 3rd Party

2002-03-28 Thread bbum

contrib/ or optional/ sounds better than thirdparty/ to me.

Wouldn't the custom fink mirror only work when installing from debian 
packages (which, admittedly, I never do-- I always have fink configured to 
download-and-build; never using dselect).

b.bum


On Thursday, March 28, 2002, at 04:30 PM, Chris Zubrzycki wrote:

 What about a contrib or optional tree? when things that are binary only 
 could be packaged, and made available to the public. (I have not read the 
 entire policy yet, so this may be in there...)

 and don't forget: anyone can have a custom fink mirror and give out the 
 line for apt's sources.list



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Re: [Fink-devel] fun fun fun! minicom is done!

2002-03-28 Thread Jeremy Higgs

On 29/3/02 12:26 AM, Chris Zubrzycki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 On Thursday, March 28, 2002, at 06:40  AM, Max Horn wrote:
 
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 Ok, minicom is in the tracker, as well as lrzsz, which is a set of
 x,y,and zmodem programs which minicom can use.
 
 I believe there is already a lrzsz-0.12.20-1.info in CVS. Did you check
 that?
 oops...  :-)
 
 o well, it was a good learning experience. The one in unstable is
 missing a build depends (gettext), and I added more docs, but yes, they
 are the same.

It'd be handy in the future if you contacted the maintainer of such a
package if you find problems... In this case, me. :)

Gettext is an essential package, so every Fink installation has it, so it
isn't really needed as a BuildDepends (but I wasn't aware that it needed
gettext, so thanks!)
 


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Re: [Fink-devel] Re: 3rd Party

2002-03-28 Thread Jeremy Higgs

On 29/3/02 8:24 AM, Max Horn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 At 16:09 Uhr -0500 28.03.2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Max,
 
 I can understand your position and respect the desire not to
 dilute the Fink policy unless absolutely positively necessary, even
 if-- in this one case-- I disagree.
 
 And I *fully* support your proposal regarding a third party
 section.  I actually have a few Fink packages I have put together
 that will never be accepted because they completely violate policy;
 the most notable being the Jode package (as it installs a binary).
 
 It would be nice if there was a mechanism for injecting a
 hunk of .info files into fink;  ones that are completely unsupported
 or totally local.
 
 Prolly, yeah. One idea would be to use yet another tree for it, say
 thirdparty or so. Writing some inject scripts wouldn't be hard, and
 we could also write a tool to add this to fink.conf (if you think
 it's not enough to explain to users how to make that change).
 
 
 Max

How about 'contrib'? That's what Debian uses, although I'm not sure if it's
for the same purposes...


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[Fink-devel] Apache Continued

2002-03-28 Thread Bill Bumgarner


If you want to see something truly frightening do a 'strings' on 
/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Admin.framework/Resources/writeconfig.  
Whoah!  Therein lies dragons.

In any case, replacing the system provided apachectl with the one from 
Fink causes the start/stop button in sharing to start/stop the fink 
installed apache.  Except that the 'sharing' button NEVER comes back from 
being pressed.  Hmmm...

Now, how would I package that into a Fink package [that would, obviously, 
not be distributed with Fink because of severe policy violations]?

Also, the Fink installed apache runs as 'nobody', but the Apple installed 
apache runs as 'www'.  Is there any reason why the Fink installed apache 
should not run as 'www'?


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