[Fink-devel] m17n-{db,lib}? (really, emacs arabic)

2015-02-15 Thread Greg Minshall 
hi.  i'm trying to get emacs to display contextual forms of Arabic
letters correctly [1].  out of the box, the fink emacs didn't do the
right thing for me with any of the fonts i tried.

problems of this sort are known [2].  one suggestion on the net is to
make sure that libotf is installed (it is, by Fink, in my case), and
that m17n-{db,lib} are installed.  i can't find those last two, though
they appear to have been, at one time, part of the fink distribution.
(and, i notice that emacs24 in fink is configured with
--without-m17n-flt.)

after, or during, a fair amount of flailing, i eventually downloaded
24.4.4 from gnu and built it with Fink's libotf and with m17n-{db,lib} i
had downloaded and built from the m17n site.

two'ish questions:

1.  is anyone *not* having my problem?  i.e., is there anyone using
Fink's emacs and has contextual forms in Arabic working?  if so, how did
you build your Fink/emacs to get that nice state?

2.  (in case it may be important) where have the m17n-{db,lib} gone?

cheers, Greg Minshall


[1] letters in the Arabic alphabet, like those in the Hebrew and some
(unknown, to me) number of other alphabets, vary in shape depending on
whether they are printed separate of any word, or at the beginning, at
the middle, or at the end of a word (where, for ease of explanation, the
word word is here used slightly incorrectly).  see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_script_in_Unicode#Contextual_forms
if you would like more information.


[2] http://stackoverflow.com/questions/23924306/arabic-glyphs-in-emacs
is a discussion on stackoverflow.  to really understand (and reproduce)
the problem, you might look at

http://www.persoarabic.org/content/generated/doc.free/mohsen/PLPC/120036/current/accessPage

and search for Hala,.  type that in to M-x set-input-method
farsi-transliterate-banan (as it were); if the right-most 4 letters
look as they do in that document, you are working.  if, instead, they
look *something* like IJIz -- i.e., each letter separated from the
others by a space -- then you've the same problem i have.

one complicating feature of this problem is that it can be caused by the
font itself (fonts are apparently not such passive creatures as i
would have thought).  even after getting things working with emacs, only
the open type fonts did the right thing (not the fonts which were
only true type; this was the cause of a substantial amount of my
flailing).

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Re: [Fink-devel] m17n-{db,lib}? (really, emacs arabic)

2015-02-15 Thread Alexander Hansen 

 On Feb 15, 2015, at 4:01 AM, Greg Minshall minsh...@acm.org wrote:
 
 hi.  i'm trying to get emacs to display contextual forms of Arabic
 letters correctly [1].  out of the box, the fink emacs didn't do the
 right thing for me with any of the fonts i tried.
 
 problems of this sort are known [2].  one suggestion on the net is to
 make sure that libotf is installed (it is, by Fink, in my case), and
 that m17n-{db,lib} are installed.  i can't find those last two, though
 they appear to have been, at one time, part of the fink distribution.
 (and, i notice that emacs24 in fink is configured with
 --without-m17n-flt.)
 
 after, or during, a fair amount of flailing, i eventually downloaded
 24.4.4 from gnu and built it with Fink's libotf and with m17n-{db,lib} i
 had downloaded and built from the m17n site.
 
 two'ish questions:
 
 1.  is anyone *not* having my problem?  i.e., is there anyone using
 Fink's emacs and has contextual forms in Arabic working?  if so, how did
 you build your Fink/emacs to get that nice state?
 
 2.  (in case it may be important) where have the m17n-{db,lib} gone?
 
 cheers, Greg Minshall
 
 
 [1] letters in the Arabic alphabet, like those in the Hebrew and some
 (unknown, to me) number of other alphabets, vary in shape depending on
 whether they are printed separate of any word, or at the beginning, at
 the middle, or at the end of a word (where, for ease of explanation, the
 word word is here used slightly incorrectly).  see
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_script_in_Unicode#Contextual_forms
 if you would like more information.
 
 
 [2] http://stackoverflow.com/questions/23924306/arabic-glyphs-in-emacs
 is a discussion on stackoverflow.  to really understand (and reproduce)
 the problem, you might look at
 
 http://www.persoarabic.org/content/generated/doc.free/mohsen/PLPC/120036/current/accessPage
 
 and search for Hala,.  type that in to M-x set-input-method
 farsi-transliterate-banan (as it were); if the right-most 4 letters
 look as they do in that document, you are working.  if, instead, they
 look *something* like IJIz -- i.e., each letter separated from the
 others by a space -- then you've the same problem i have.
 
 one complicating feature of this problem is that it can be caused by the
 font itself (fonts are apparently not such passive creatures as i
 would have thought).  even after getting things working with emacs, only
 the open type fonts did the right thing (not the fonts which were
 only true type; this was the cause of a substantial amount of my
 flailing).
 

The answer for (2) is that they weren’t carried over in the 10.6/10.7 
transition:

http://pdb.finkproject.org/pdb/package.php/m17n-db 
http://pdb.finkproject.org/pdb/package.php/m17n-db

We didn’t automatically move packages over, instead relying on maintainers to 
move the packages or user requests to remind us about them. :-)

I just added the m17n* packages to 10.7-10.10, at the same version as above but 
with some dependency modernization in the -libs.  

I’ll look at adding m17n support to our emacs24.  Do you happen to know if this 
would apply to the non-X11 (-nox) variant as well?
- 
Alexander Hansen, Ph.D.
Fink User Liaison

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Re: [Fink-devel] m17n-{db,lib}? (really, emacs arabic)

2015-02-15 Thread Greg Minshall 
Alexander, thanks for the reply and action.  i'm afraid, though, that i
don't know if this would apply to the non-x version of emacs.  cheers,
Greg

 The answer for (2) is that they weren’t carried over in the 10.6/10.7
 transition:
 
 http://pdb.finkproject.org/pdb/package.php/m17n-db
 http://pdb.finkproject.org/pdb/package.php/m17n-db
 
 We didn’t automatically move packages over, instead relying on
 maintainers to move the packages or user requests to remind us about
 them. :-)
 
 I just added the m17n* packages to 10.7-10.10, at the same version as
 above but with some dependency modernization in the -libs.
 
 I’ll look at adding m17n support to our emacs24.  Do you happen to
 know if this would apply to the non-X11 (-nox) variant as well?
 - 
 Alexander Hansen, Ph.D.
 Fink User Liaison

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Re: [Fink-devel] m17n-{db,lib}? (really, emacs arabic)

2015-02-15 Thread Hanspeter Niederstrasser 
I've attached updated files for m17n-*.  Then modify emacs24.info as 
necessary to activate m17n*. This file updates m17n-lib to the latest 
upstream, as well as adding some missing dependencies.  You can put them 
in to /sw/fink/dists/local/main/finkinfo and Fink will see them.


I've CC'd the Todai team since they're the named maintainers for the 
m17n packages if they'd like to weigh in.


Hanspeter

Package: m17n-db
Version: 1.7.0
Revision: 1
Source: http://download.savannah.gnu.org/releases/m17n/m17n-db-%v.tar.gz
Source-MD5: 0a320d3cf955abba459e51161fc91236
Source2: mirror:gnu:glibc/glibc-2.9.tar.bz2
Source2-MD5: fc62e989cf31d015f31628609fc3757a
ConfigureParams: --with-charmaps=../glibc-2.9/localedata/charmaps
InstallScript: 
  make install DESTDIR=%d

DocFiles: AUTHORS COPYING NEWS README 
Description: Database for the m17n library
DescPackaging: 
  Originally packaged by Etsushi Kato ek...@ees.hokudai.ac.jp

License: LGPL
Maintainer: Todai Fink Team f...@sodan.ecc.u-tokyo.ac.jp
Package: m17n-lib
Version: 1.7.0
Revision: 1
BuildDepends: 
  anthy-dev,
  fink-package-precedence,
  fontconfig2-dev,
  freetype219 (= 2.5.5-1),
  fribidi-dev (= 0.19.2-2),
  gd3,
  ispell,
  libiconv-dev,
  libiconv-bin,
  libgettext8-dev,
  libjpeg9,
  libotf,
  libpng16,
  libthai-dev,
  libxml2,
  pkgconfig,
  x11-dev,
  xft2-dev (= 2.2.0-4)

Depends: %N-shlibs
BuildDependsOnly: true
Source: http://download.savannah.gnu.org/releases/m17n/m17n-lib-%v.tar.gz
Source-MD5: 9769e12770483c203c6b304ce406495e
#PatchFile: %n.patch
#PatchFile-MD5: 87be57e59517b5893977cc8d93cbdae1
#PatchScript: sed 's|@PREFIX@|%p|'  %{PatchFile} | patch -p1
UseMaxBuildJobs: false
ConfigureParams: --enable-dependency-tracking
CompileScript: 
  %{default_script}
  fink-package-precedence .
  iconv -f euc-jp -t utf-8 example/M17NEdit.ja | sed 1s/euc-jp/utf-8/  
example/M17NEdit.ja.utf8

InstallScript: 
  make install DESTDIR=%d
  mkdir -p %i/share/%n/examples
  install -m 644 example/HELLO* %i/share/%N/examples
  mkdir -p %i/etc/app-defaults/ja_JP.eucJP %i/etc/app-defaults/ja_JP.UTF-8
  install -m 644 example/M17NEdit.ja %i/etc/app-defaults/ja_JP.eucJP/M17NEdit
  install -m 644 example/M17NEdit.ja.utf8 
%i/etc/app-defaults/ja_JP.UTF-8/M17NEdit
  # Before the anthy and wordcut packages are completed, don't include mimx
  rm -f %i/lib/m17n/1.0/libmimx*

SplitOff: 
  Package: %N-shlibs
  Depends: 
libiconv,
libthai-shlibs,
libxml2-shlibs,
m17n-db
  
  Files: lib/libm17n-core.*.dylib lib/libm17n.*.dylib lib/libm17n-flt.*.dylib
  Shlibs: 
%p/lib/libm17n-core.0.dylib 5.0.0 %n (= 1.6.2-1)
%p/lib/libm17n.0.dylib 5.0.0 %n (= 1.6.2-1)
%p/lib/libm17n-flt.0.dylib 5.0.0 %n (= 1.6.2-1)
  
  DocFiles: AUTHORS COPYING NEWS README 

SplitOff2: 
  Package: %N-gui
  Depends: %N-gui-shlibs
  BuildDependsOnly: true
  Files: lib/libm17n-gui.{dylib,a,la} lib/m17n/1.0/libm17n-{gd,X}.{a,la} 
lib/pkgconfig/m17n-gui.pc include/m17n-{gui,X}.h
  DocFiles: AUTHORS COPYING NEWS README 

SplitOff3: 
  Package: %N-gui-shlibs
  Depends: 
%N-shlibs,
fontconfig2-shlibs,
freetype219-shlibs (= 2.5.5-1),
fribidi-shlibs (= 0.19.2-2),
gd3-shlibs,
libotf-shlibs, gd2-shlibs,
xft2-shlibs (= 2.2.0-4),
x11-shlibs
  
  Files: lib/libm17n-gui.*.dylib lib/m17n/1.0/libm17n-*.so
  Shlibs: 
%p/lib/libm17n-gui.0.dylib 5.0.0 %n (= 1.6.2-1)
  
  DocFiles: AUTHORS COPYING NEWS README 

SplitOff4: 
  Package: %N-examples
  Depends: 
%N-gui-shlibs,
app-defaults,
fontconfig2-shlibs,
freetype219-shlibs (= 2.5.5-1),
fribidi-shlibs (= 0.19.2-2),
gd3-shlibs,
libiconv,
libotf-shlibs,
libthai-shlibs,
libxml2-shlibs,
m17n-lib-gui-shlibs,
x11-shlibs
  
  Files: bin/m17n-conv bin/m17n-date bin/m17n-dump bin/m17n-edit bin/m17n-view 
share/%N etc
  # add lib/libmimx* to Files later
  DocFiles: AUTHORS COPYING NEWS README 

DocFiles: AUTHORS COPYING NEWS README 
Description: Multilingual text processing library for C
DescPackaging: 
  TODO: anthy and wordcut support for -examples

  Originally packaged by Etsushi Kato ek...@ees.hokudai.ac.jp

License: LGPL
Maintainer: Todai Fink Team f...@sodan.ecc.u-tokyo.ac.jp
Homepage: http://www.nongnu.org/m17n/
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