Re: [Fink-devel] Gimp upate
On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 7:09 AM, Hanspeter Niederstrasser f...@snaggledworks.com wrote: On 9/2/2012 12:23 AM, Bill Waggoner wrote: On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 12:04 AM, fink-devel-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2012 01:03:52 -0300 From: Gustavo Benedito Reis Costa gusbened...@gmail.com Subject: [Fink-devel] Please, add GoldenDict and update Gimp 2.6 to 2.8.1 to Fink To: fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Hello developers, Good evening! I'm new to Fink forum. I noticed Gimp 2.6 is outdated and GoldenDict isn't included in Fink list. I would like you add GoldenDict app and update Gimp for Fink, but I prefer you add GoldenDict, because it's one of most important applications of Linux. You can see the discussions that I had with GoldenDict developers: https://github.com/goldendict/goldendict/issues/124 Thank you for your attention, understanding, help and patience! Gustavo Reis Gimp 2.8.2 is now native OSX. If someone would guide me through putting together a Fink package I'd like to work to get that done. I have many, many years of systems experience but I've not put together a Fink package. Sounds like it might be a challenge ... Unfortunately, Fink's gimp2 is not upgradeable to the latest 2.8.2 because of missing dependencies. A quick check through the configure script shows that it needs babl-0.1.10 (Fink has 0.1.4) and gegl-0.2 (Fink has 0.1.6). Those are probably easily updateable. However, it also has a requirment for glib-2.30.2 and Fink's glib2 is stuck at 2.22 because newer glib2 is broken on OS X in the latest versions. There might be more missing dependencies, but I stopped at glib2 since it's fatal. So until glib2 is correctly buildable under OS X, gimp2 is stuck at 2.6. Hanspeter babl/gegl maintainer cc'd Would it be productive for me to take a look into glib2? Bill W -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Fink-devel mailing list Fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net List archive: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.os.apple.fink.devel Subscription management: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Gimp upate
On 9/2/12 4:01 PM, Bill Waggoner wrote: On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 7:09 AM, Hanspeter Niederstrasser f...@snaggledworks.com wrote: On 9/2/2012 12:23 AM, Bill Waggoner wrote: On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 12:04 AM, fink-devel-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2012 01:03:52 -0300 From: Gustavo Benedito Reis Costa gusbened...@gmail.com Subject: [Fink-devel] Please, add GoldenDict and update Gimp 2.6 to 2.8.1 to Fink To: fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Hello developers, Good evening! I'm new to Fink forum. I noticed Gimp 2.6 is outdated and GoldenDict isn't included in Fink list. I would like you add GoldenDict app and update Gimp for Fink, but I prefer you add GoldenDict, because it's one of most important applications of Linux. You can see the discussions that I had with GoldenDict developers: https://github.com/goldendict/goldendict/issues/124 Thank you for your attention, understanding, help and patience! Gustavo Reis Gimp 2.8.2 is now native OSX. If someone would guide me through putting together a Fink package I'd like to work to get that done. I have many, many years of systems experience but I've not put together a Fink package. Sounds like it might be a challenge ... Unfortunately, Fink's gimp2 is not upgradeable to the latest 2.8.2 because of missing dependencies. A quick check through the configure script shows that it needs babl-0.1.10 (Fink has 0.1.4) and gegl-0.2 (Fink has 0.1.6). Those are probably easily updateable. However, it also has a requirment for glib-2.30.2 and Fink's glib2 is stuck at 2.22 because newer glib2 is broken on OS X in the latest versions. There might be more missing dependencies, but I stopped at glib2 since it's fatal. So until glib2 is correctly buildable under OS X, gimp2 is stuck at 2.6. Hanspeter babl/gegl maintainer cc'd Would it be productive for me to take a look into glib2? Bill W My understanding of the situation with glib2 is that: 1) Upstream has made changes in the code that break some, but not all, functionality on OS X. (I don't have a good bug tracker reference, and I don't recall exactly what is currently broken in their nominally stable release, but maybe someone else can pass that along). 2) They don't care about OS X (based on responses to bug reports filed by the maintainer). With those caveats being given, sure, take a look. :-) -- Alexander Hansen, Ph.D. Fink User Liaison My package updates: http://finkakh.wordpress.com/ -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Fink-devel mailing list Fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net List archive: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.os.apple.fink.devel Subscription management: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Gimp upate
On 9/2/12 7:25 PM, Bill Waggoner wrote: On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 9:01 PM, Hanspeter Niederstrasser f...@snaggledworks.com wrote: On 9/2/2012 8:47 PM, Alexander Hansen wrote: On 9/2/12 4:01 PM, Bill Waggoner wrote: On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 7:09 AM, Hanspeter Niederstrasser f...@snaggledworks.com wrote: On 9/2/2012 12:23 AM, Bill Waggoner wrote: On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 12:04 AM, fink-devel-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2012 01:03:52 -0300 From: Gustavo Benedito Reis Costa gusbened...@gmail.com Subject: [Fink-devel] Please, add GoldenDict and update Gimp 2.6 to 2.8.1 to Fink To: fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Hello developers, Good evening! I'm new to Fink forum. I noticed Gimp 2.6 is outdated and GoldenDict isn't included in Fink list. I would like you add GoldenDict app and update Gimp for Fink, but I prefer you add GoldenDict, because it's one of most important applications of Linux. You can see the discussions that I had with GoldenDict developers: https://github.com/goldendict/goldendict/issues/124 Thank you for your attention, understanding, help and patience! Gustavo Reis Gimp 2.8.2 is now native OSX. If someone would guide me through putting together a Fink package I'd like to work to get that done. I have many, many years of systems experience but I've not put together a Fink package. Sounds like it might be a challenge ... Unfortunately, Fink's gimp2 is not upgradeable to the latest 2.8.2 because of missing dependencies. A quick check through the configure script shows that it needs babl-0.1.10 (Fink has 0.1.4) and gegl-0.2 (Fink has 0.1.6). Those are probably easily updateable. However, it also has a requirment for glib-2.30.2 and Fink's glib2 is stuck at 2.22 because newer glib2 is broken on OS X in the latest versions. There might be more missing dependencies, but I stopped at glib2 since it's fatal. So until glib2 is correctly buildable under OS X, gimp2 is stuck at 2.6. Hanspeter babl/gegl maintainer cc'd Would it be productive for me to take a look into glib2? Bill W My understanding of the situation with glib2 is that: 1) Upstream has made changes in the code that break some, but not all, functionality on OS X. (I don't have a good bug tracker reference, and I don't recall exactly what is currently broken in their nominally stable release, but maybe someone else can pass that along). 2) They don't care about OS X (based on responses to bug reports filed by the maintainer). With those caveats being given, sure, take a look. :-) If you want to take a look at the latest (not really working) package description for glib2, download it from here: http://fink.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/fink/experimental/dmacks/finkinfo/gnome/ and save it to /sw/fink/dists/local/main/finkinfo The glib2.info file lists the upstream filed bugs. Hanspeter Interesting. And I will dig deeper. But can you explain why Gimp 2.8.2 runs native on OSX but appears to depend on an incompatible library? I don't understand how that can be. I am, obviously, confused. Bill W It probably doesn't need the full functionality. Fink's glib2 has to work for _all_ existing packages that use it, but an isolated app bundle build of Gimp may need less. -- Alexander Hansen, Ph.D. Fink User Liaison My package updates: http://finkakh.wordpress.com/ -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Fink-devel mailing list Fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net List archive: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.os.apple.fink.devel Subscription management: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Gimp upate
On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 10:38 PM, Alexander Hansen alexanderk.han...@gmail.com wrote: On 9/2/12 7:25 PM, Bill Waggoner wrote: On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 9:01 PM, Hanspeter Niederstrasser f...@snaggledworks.com wrote: On 9/2/2012 8:47 PM, Alexander Hansen wrote: On 9/2/12 4:01 PM, Bill Waggoner wrote: On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 7:09 AM, Hanspeter Niederstrasser f...@snaggledworks.com wrote: On 9/2/2012 12:23 AM, Bill Waggoner wrote: On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 12:04 AM, fink-devel-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2012 01:03:52 -0300 From: Gustavo Benedito Reis Costa gusbened...@gmail.com Subject: [Fink-devel] Please, add GoldenDict and update Gimp 2.6 to 2.8.1 to Fink To: fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Hello developers, Good evening! I'm new to Fink forum. I noticed Gimp 2.6 is outdated and GoldenDict isn't included in Fink list. I would like you add GoldenDict app and update Gimp for Fink, but I prefer you add GoldenDict, because it's one of most important applications of Linux. You can see the discussions that I had with GoldenDict developers: https://github.com/goldendict/goldendict/issues/124 Thank you for your attention, understanding, help and patience! Gustavo Reis Gimp 2.8.2 is now native OSX. If someone would guide me through putting together a Fink package I'd like to work to get that done. I have many, many years of systems experience but I've not put together a Fink package. Sounds like it might be a challenge ... Unfortunately, Fink's gimp2 is not upgradeable to the latest 2.8.2 because of missing dependencies. A quick check through the configure script shows that it needs babl-0.1.10 (Fink has 0.1.4) and gegl-0.2 (Fink has 0.1.6). Those are probably easily updateable. However, it also has a requirment for glib-2.30.2 and Fink's glib2 is stuck at 2.22 because newer glib2 is broken on OS X in the latest versions. There might be more missing dependencies, but I stopped at glib2 since it's fatal. So until glib2 is correctly buildable under OS X, gimp2 is stuck at 2.6. Hanspeter babl/gegl maintainer cc'd Would it be productive for me to take a look into glib2? Bill W My understanding of the situation with glib2 is that: 1) Upstream has made changes in the code that break some, but not all, functionality on OS X. (I don't have a good bug tracker reference, and I don't recall exactly what is currently broken in their nominally stable release, but maybe someone else can pass that along). 2) They don't care about OS X (based on responses to bug reports filed by the maintainer). With those caveats being given, sure, take a look. :-) If you want to take a look at the latest (not really working) package description for glib2, download it from here: http://fink.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/fink/experimental/dmacks/finkinfo/gnome/ and save it to /sw/fink/dists/local/main/finkinfo The glib2.info file lists the upstream filed bugs. Hanspeter Interesting. And I will dig deeper. But can you explain why Gimp 2.8.2 runs native on OSX but appears to depend on an incompatible library? I don't understand how that can be. I am, obviously, confused. Bill W It probably doesn't need the full functionality. Fink's glib2 has to work for _all_ existing packages that use it, but an isolated app bundle build of Gimp may need less. -- Alexander Hansen, Ph.D. Fink User Liaison My package updates: http://finkakh.wordpress.com/ Got it. I'm going to dig into it and if I get anything useful I'll let you know. I think it would be good to have an OSX-native gimp in fink. No promises. Bill W -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Fink-devel mailing list Fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net List archive: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.os.apple.fink.devel Subscription management: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
Re: [Fink-devel] Gimp upate
On 9/2/12 7:47 PM, Bill Waggoner wrote: On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 10:38 PM, Alexander Hansen alexanderk.han...@gmail.com wrote: On 9/2/12 7:25 PM, Bill Waggoner wrote: On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 9:01 PM, Hanspeter Niederstrasser f...@snaggledworks.com wrote: On 9/2/2012 8:47 PM, Alexander Hansen wrote: On 9/2/12 4:01 PM, Bill Waggoner wrote: On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 7:09 AM, Hanspeter Niederstrasser f...@snaggledworks.com wrote: On 9/2/2012 12:23 AM, Bill Waggoner wrote: On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 12:04 AM, fink-devel-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2012 01:03:52 -0300 From: Gustavo Benedito Reis Costa gusbened...@gmail.com Subject: [Fink-devel] Please, add GoldenDict and update Gimp 2.6 to 2.8.1 to Fink To: fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Hello developers, Good evening! I'm new to Fink forum. I noticed Gimp 2.6 is outdated and GoldenDict isn't included in Fink list. I would like you add GoldenDict app and update Gimp for Fink, but I prefer you add GoldenDict, because it's one of most important applications of Linux. You can see the discussions that I had with GoldenDict developers: https://github.com/goldendict/goldendict/issues/124 Thank you for your attention, understanding, help and patience! Gustavo Reis Gimp 2.8.2 is now native OSX. If someone would guide me through putting together a Fink package I'd like to work to get that done. I have many, many years of systems experience but I've not put together a Fink package. Sounds like it might be a challenge ... Unfortunately, Fink's gimp2 is not upgradeable to the latest 2.8.2 because of missing dependencies. A quick check through the configure script shows that it needs babl-0.1.10 (Fink has 0.1.4) and gegl-0.2 (Fink has 0.1.6). Those are probably easily updateable. However, it also has a requirment for glib-2.30.2 and Fink's glib2 is stuck at 2.22 because newer glib2 is broken on OS X in the latest versions. There might be more missing dependencies, but I stopped at glib2 since it's fatal. So until glib2 is correctly buildable under OS X, gimp2 is stuck at 2.6. Hanspeter babl/gegl maintainer cc'd Would it be productive for me to take a look into glib2? Bill W My understanding of the situation with glib2 is that: 1) Upstream has made changes in the code that break some, but not all, functionality on OS X. (I don't have a good bug tracker reference, and I don't recall exactly what is currently broken in their nominally stable release, but maybe someone else can pass that along). 2) They don't care about OS X (based on responses to bug reports filed by the maintainer). With those caveats being given, sure, take a look. :-) If you want to take a look at the latest (not really working) package description for glib2, download it from here: http://fink.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/fink/experimental/dmacks/finkinfo/gnome/ and save it to /sw/fink/dists/local/main/finkinfo The glib2.info file lists the upstream filed bugs. Hanspeter Interesting. And I will dig deeper. But can you explain why Gimp 2.8.2 runs native on OSX but appears to depend on an incompatible library? I don't understand how that can be. I am, obviously, confused. Bill W It probably doesn't need the full functionality. Fink's glib2 has to work for _all_ existing packages that use it, but an isolated app bundle build of Gimp may need less. -- Alexander Hansen, Ph.D. Fink User Liaison My package updates: http://finkakh.wordpress.com/ Got it. I'm going to dig into it and if I get anything useful I'll let you know. I think it would be good to have an OSX-native gimp in fink. No promises. Bill W That would also require an Aqua-based rather than X11-based GTK. I'm not sure what the current status of that is. People looked at it for Fink a while ago and my recollection was that it didn't coexist nicely with the X11 GTK. -- Alexander Hansen, Ph.D. Fink User Liaison My package updates: http://finkakh.wordpress.com/ -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Fink-devel mailing list Fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net List archive: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.os.apple.fink.devel Subscription management: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
