Re: [Fink-users] gnome-vfs2-ssl not working with sftp
Kevin, Le 8 mars 2005, à 3:45, Kevin Horton a écrit : At 2:46 +0100 8/3/05, Michèle Garoche wrote: Le 8 mars 2005, à 2:31, Kevin Horton a écrit : I'm trying to edit remote files with bluefish. The bluefish developers say that remote files should be able to be opened using URL like sftp://[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/path/to/file. I tried such a URL, and it failed. Looking in Console, I see: Seems impossible as libsftp.la is deactivated either in gnome-vfs2 or gnome-vfs2-ssl (see the patch files). Oh well, so much for dreaming. I don't _need_ to edit those files in place, but it would have been nice. You can use ssh, it should work (hopefully). Michèle http://micmacfr.homeunix.org PGP.sig Description: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ceci_est_une_signature_=E9lectronique_PGP?=
Re: [Fink-users] Xorg full-screen problem
On Mon, 7 Mar 2005, Alexander K. Hansen wrote: On Mar 7, 2005, at 6:10 PM, Viv Kendon wrote: Has anyone else on this list running Xorg and Xorg's XDarwin full screen experienced things get all confused over whether X or Aqua should have control? The symptom is that mouse clicks start switching focus to whatever Aqua app is in that portion of the screen even when Xorg supposedly has control of the screen. The screen redrawing gets all mixed up too, with X apps updating (like xclock when the time advances) coming through on the Aqua desktop when Aqua has focus. Nothing actually crashes, there are no error messages on the console. Focus still follows mouse when X has focus, and keyboard input then goes into the selected X window, it is just the mouse clicks that go to Aqua. With a little ingenuity it is possible to quit Xorg cleanly and restart it, whereupon things return to normal. There is usually some trigger, like attaching an external hard drive over firewire, or a camera over USB, that precedes this effect, but it doesn't happen every time in a repeatable way. I have this just often enough to be annoying on both my TiBook (running an older XDarwin from XFree86 over Xorg) and my dual G4 (with matching XDarwin), both installed through fink. If this was on PC hardware I'd be thinking the system had somehow missed an interupt, but I don't know enough about Macs to know whether something equivalent could be behind this. (Interupts are how the system responds to input from devices like mouse, keyboard, modem...each one gets its own interupt number, a bit like SCSI device numbers.) This may be one of those wait and see if it goes away under Tiger problems, but if anyone has any suggestions (including try another list, file a bug), or just a me too I'd appreciate it. thanks, -- Viv Dr Viv Kendon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quantum Information tel: 0113 343 3897 Physics Astronomy University of Leeds Fullscreen or rootless? Fullscreen. So it is very obvious when things go wrong because normally only the hotkey combo will switch between X and Aqua worlds. And anyway, the screen doesn't fully redraw in either world anymore, even when switching with the hotkey or dock icon. Redrawing only happens for the bits each world thinks it needs to update (because something moved or changed). It's a bit like XDarwin tried to switch to rootless mode in mid-session, but with all the mouse clicks belonging to Aqua and 6 virtual desktops (fvwm2) still hanging around. There are some known issues with how XDarwin deals with windows that aren't under its control in rootless mode (e.g. running X11.app on DISPLAY 0 and XDarwin on DISPLAY 1. I am running Xdarwin on DISPLAY 1 though, always have done, so I can run X11 rootless on DISPLAY 0. Currently I do this to accommodate Matlab's hybrid setup, but I don't run Matlab very often, and neither Matlab nor X11 have been running any of the times I've had the problem. On the other hand, I haven't had any problem similar to yours (I'm using the XDarwin that came with Xorg)--Aqua and X11 stay in their own worlds. I'm pretty sure it is external device triggered, and the cause is therefore located somewhere in the Aqua side of things. But I'm not sure filing a bug report with Apple when I'm running Xorg is going to get any attention...so I thought I'd first try to find out if I'm alone with this problem. I don't recall ever having this happen prior to running Xorg. many thanks, -- Viv Dr Viv Kendon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quantum Information tel: 0113 343 3897 Physics Astronomy University of Leeds --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595alloc_id=14396op=click ___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
[Fink-users] Many, many BuildDepends messages
Every time I do fink update-all, I get many, many messages of the form: WARNING: The package kdegraphics3 Depends on kghostview, but kghostview only allows things to BuildDepend on it. The names of the packages change, but the messages roll out to the tune of several hundred of them. It doesn't seem to hurt anything, but I'm getting tired of it. I saw nothing in the FAQ about it. Is there any way to get rid of all of these? --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595alloc_id=14396op=click ___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] gnome-vfs2-ssl not working with sftp
At 9:57 +0100 8/3/05, you wrote: Kevin, Le 8 mars 2005, à 3:45, Kevin Horton a écrit : At 2:46 +0100 8/3/05, Michèle Garoche wrote: Le 8 mars 2005, à 2:31, Kevin Horton a écrit : I'm trying to edit remote files with bluefish. The bluefish developers say that remote files should be able to be opened using URL like sftp://[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/path/to/file. I tried such a URL, and it failed. Looking in Console, I see: Seems impossible as libsftp.la is deactivated either in gnome-vfs2 or gnome-vfs2-ssl (see the patch files). Oh well, so much for dreaming. I don't _need_ to edit those files in place, but it would have been nice. You can use ssh, it should work (hopefully). No, ssh is not working either. I used the same URL format, just replacing sftp with ssh. The very first time I tried it I got an Aqua dialog box asking for my password. I assume the password request was from SSHKeyChain, as I see in the Console logs that my id_dsa identity was added. But, bluefish simply hangs, with the OK button of the Open URL dialog pushed. Thanks for trying to help, Kevin --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_ide95alloc_id396op=click ___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] gnome-vfs2-ssl not working with sftp
On Tue, Mar 08, 2005 at 06:30:32AM -0500, Kevin Horton wrote: I'm trying to edit remote files with bluefish. The bluefish developers say that remote files should be able to be opened using URL like sftp://[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/path/to/file. I tried such a URL, and it failed. Looking in Console, I see: Seems impossible as libsftp.la is deactivated either in gnome-vfs2 or gnome-vfs2-ssl (see the patch files). You can use ssh, it should work (hopefully). No, ssh is not working either. I used the same URL format, just replacing sftp with ssh. The very first time I tried it I got an Aqua dialog box asking for my password. I assume the password request was from SSHKeyChain, as I see in the Console logs that my id_dsa identity was added. But, bluefish simply hangs, with the OK button of the Open URL dialog pushed. No, ssh does not accept (as far as I know) an url format. You have to use: 'ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]' from a shell. It will prompt you for your password, and you will then be logged in onto the distant host, where you can cd to the proper directory and edit your file. Cheers, Clemence --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595alloc_id=14396op=click ___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] Many, many BuildDepends messages
On Mar 8, 2005, at 5:15 AM, Mike O'Brien wrote: Every time I do fink update-all, I get many, many messages of the form: WARNING: The package kdegraphics3 Depends on kghostview, but kghostview only allows things to BuildDepend on it. The names of the packages change, but the messages roll out to the tune of several hundred of them. It doesn't seem to hurt anything, but I'm getting tired of it. I saw nothing in the FAQ about it. Is there any way to get rid of all of these? There's not really anything you can do other than reduce fink's verbosity--the messages are really more for the package maintainers than for users. -- Alexander Hansen Fink Documentarian [Day Job] Levitated Dipole Experiment http://www.psfc.mit.edu/LDX --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595alloc_id=14396op=click ___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] gnome-vfs2-ssl not working with sftp
Le 8 mars 2005, à 13:12, Kevin Horton a écrit : At 12:39 +0100 8/3/05, Clemence Magnien wrote: On Tue, Mar 08, 2005 at 06:30:32AM -0500, Kevin Horton wrote: I'm trying to edit remote files with bluefish. The bluefish developers say that remote files should be able to be opened using URL like sftp://[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/path/to/file. I tried such a URL, and it failed. Looking in Console, I see: Seems impossible as libsftp.la is deactivated either in gnome-vfs2 or gnome-vfs2-ssl (see the patch files). You can use ssh, it should work (hopefully). No, ssh is not working either. OK, so I ssh into my host from xterm. If I try to open bluefish while in the shell on my remote host, it is looking for a bluefish installed there, which does not exist. How do I then get bluefish on my local machine to edit a file on the remote host? I do not remember exactly, how to do it, since my g3 had been out of usage for six months. But I think you ssh -Y (it was -X formerly) on the remote machine, from then you can mount the directory as a volume, and bluefish will accept the url as it will see it as local to your machine. Michèle http://micmacfr.homeunix.org PGP.sig Description: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ceci_est_une_signature_=E9lectronique_PGP?=
[Fink-users] Problems with Docbkx412
I am trying to refresh my fink installation with the usual update-all, but it fails early on the DocBook-DTD package. Fink tries to download docbkx412.zip and cannot find it anywhere. A recent message on the fink-beginners list says: The package docbook-dtd has recently been upgraded to 4.4 version, and old versions with info file names such as docbook-dtd-4.2.0-2 have been removed from the trees, this is why youve got that strange message, so that you need to update fink via rsync to get the new version, I tried to update fink as suggested, but nothing changes. It still tries to get the old version. Any suggestions? Thanks, Stefano __ Stefano Franchi Department of Philosophy Ph: (64) 9 373-7599 x83940 University Of Auckland Fax: (64) 9 373-7408 Private Bag 92019 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Auckland New Zealand --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595alloc_id=14396op=click ___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] gnome-vfs2-ssl not working with sftp
Le 8 mars 2005, à 16:32, Kevin Horton a écrit : ssh -Y to the remote computer doesn't seem to allow bluefish to see it. ssh -Y from the remote computer to my local one results in: ssh: illegal option -- Y I've done some googling, but nothing seems to provide an understandable hint on how to mount a volume using ssh. Thanks for your help, but I've already invested more time in trying to get this working than I could ever hope to save by editing remote files. I'll stick with using scp to move the files back and forth, and editing them on my local machine. A way to do it, is to make one machine a server and the other one a client, and define share points to that precise directory, then it will be loaded automatically via Connect to server (afp), and you can play with it as a local directory. Sorry for not being very helpful here, maybe the question would be better answered on the x11-users mailing list or on any list dealing with shared machines or so within apple mailing lists, or apple forums. This one: X-Tech on sparky.listmoms.net explained in February 2004 how to use afp and shared points. Better url: http://web.brandeis.edu/pages/view/Bio/MacOSX#Initial_Setup That is from one part you mount remote volume via share points, afp, etc..., from another part you login in via ssh (I think you have to change in sshd X11Forwarding to yes and X11Trusted (don't remember exactly the name here) to yes). I'm sure it worked (not sure it works now), since I used to update with bluefish a copy of my site placed on my g3 and mounted via this technique, but unfortunately I lost the settings and cannot retrieve how I did it. Some gurus on networks could answer better, I'm particularly null at networking. Michèle http://micmacfr.homeunix.org PGP.sig Description: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ceci_est_une_signature_=E9lectronique_PGP?=
Re: [Fink-users] Problems with Docbkx412
Le 8 mars 2005, à 17:48, Stefano Franchi a écrit : I am trying to refresh my fink installation with the usual update-all, but it fails early on the DocBook-DTD package. Fink tries to download docbkx412.zip and cannot find it anywhere. A recent message on the fink-beginners list says: The package docbook-dtd has recently been upgraded to 4.4 version, and old versions with info file names such as docbook-dtd-4.2.0-2 have been removed from the trees, this is why youve got that strange message, so that you need to update fink via rsync to get the new version, I tried to update fink as suggested, but nothing changes. It still tries to get the old version. Any suggestions? It maybe that the mirrors have not yet catch the file, if you use rsync. You may try: curl -f -L -O http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.1.2/docbkx412.zip and place the zip file in /sw/src (provided that /sw is your prefix). Or try to update temporarily via cvs. The file is here, I've just fetched it and the checksum is correct. Or keep trying any mirror (avoiding master). Michèle http://micmacfr.homeunix.org PGP.sig Description: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ceci_est_une_signature_=E9lectronique_PGP?=
Re: [Fink-users] gnome-vfs2-ssl not working with sftp
Le 8 mars 2005, à 18:49, Kevin Horton a écrit : At 18:17 +0100 8/3/05, you wrote: Thanks for the links - there is a lot of good stuff at the web.brandeis.edu site. The remote computer I am trying to connect to is a Linux box at the place that hosts my web site. So afp is not an option. nfs might be possible, if they have it enabled, and if I can figure out how to make the authentication work. Or samba, though I have no idea if samba is an option on Linux. But, it is quicker to simple use scp and do local editing than it is to try to sort this stuff out. There aren't enough hours in the day already :) Sure :-) But maybe a good idea to look at it on the long term. Michèle http://micmacfr.homeunix.org PGP.sig Description: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ceci_est_une_signature_=E9lectronique_PGP?=
Re: [Fink-users] gnome-vfs2-ssl not working with sftp
At 18:57 +0100 8/3/05, Michèle Garoche wrote: Le 8 mars 2005, à 18:49, Kevin Horton a écrit : At 18:17 +0100 8/3/05, you wrote: Thanks for the links - there is a lot of good stuff at the web.brandeis.edu site. The remote computer I am trying to connect to is a Linux box at the place that hosts my web site. So afp is not an option. nfs might be possible, if they have it enabled, and if I can figure out how to make the authentication work. Or samba, though I have no idea if samba is an option on Linux. But, it is quicker to simple use scp and do local editing than it is to try to sort this stuff out. There aren't enough hours in the day already :) Sure :-) But maybe a good idea to look at it on the long term. On a whim, I moved gnome-vfs2-ssl.info and .patch to my local tree, and edited the patch to remove the part that disabled sftp. I rebuilt it, and it works fine with bluefish, as far as I can tell. I was able to open, edit and save a file on a linux-based web server. I have no idea why sftp support was removed from gnome-vfs2. It took a lot of work for someone to disable it, so there must have been a good reason. But it works for me, today, on one file, with bluefish-1.0. Life is good. :) Kevin Horton --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_ide95alloc_id396op=click ___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] Re: Office Computer Can't Compile fink-0.24.1-11
Running commands to change ownership and permissions flags on a symlink actually change those bits on the thing to which the symlink points. There is no reason to care about or to (try to) change the data on the symlink itself. dan On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 11:24:18AM -0600, Robert Wyatt wrote: Does this mean that he does not need to chown for the symlink? Daniel Macks wrote: On Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 11:54:07PM +0100, Martin Costabel wrote: Jonathan Levi, M.D. wrote: % ls -ld /tmp /tmp/ lrwxrwxr-t 1 root admin 11 Jan 1 1970 /tmp - private/tmp drwxrwxrwt 7 root wheel 238 Mar 2 06:39 /tmp/ I fixed them as well as I could, although I was not able to make the link /tmp world-writable, even after logging in as root; after logging back again as jonathan and using su, I still got: su-3.00# ls -ld /tmp /tmp/ lrwxr-xr-x 1 501 501 12 Mar 2 15:13 /tmp - /private/tmp drwxrwxrwx 6 root wheel 204 Mar 2 16:42 /tmp/ You can reset the permissions by sudo chmod 1777 /private/tmp Note that perms on a symlink itself have no meaning...all that matters is the perms on the thing to which the link points. dan --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595alloc_id=14396op=click ___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users -- Daniel Macks [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.netspace.org/~dmacks --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595alloc_id=14396op=click ___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] gnome-vfs2-ssl not working with sftp
Le 8 mars 2005, à 22:19, Kevin Horton a écrit : On a whim, I moved gnome-vfs2-ssl.info and .patch to my local tree, and edited the patch to remove the part that disabled sftp. I rebuilt it, and it works fine with bluefish, as far as I can tell. I was able to open, edit and save a file on a linux-based web server. I have no idea why sftp support was removed from gnome-vfs2. Security concern I guess, though not being able to retrieve any thread about it. Life is good. :) Always :-) Michèle http://micmacfr.homeunix.org PGP.sig Description: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ceci_est_une_signature_=E9lectronique_PGP?=
Re: [Fink-users] gnome-vfs2-ssl not working with sftp
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mar 8, 2005, at 10:52 PM, Michèle Garoche wrote: Le 8 mars 2005, à 22:19, Kevin Horton a écrit : On a whim, I moved gnome-vfs2-ssl.info and .patch to my local tree, and edited the patch to remove the part that disabled sftp. I rebuilt it, and it works fine with bluefish, as far as I can tell. I was able to open, edit and save a file on a linux-based web server. I have no idea why sftp support was removed from gnome-vfs2. Security concern I guess, though not being able to retrieve any thread about it. Life is good. :) Always :-) It's possible it's a minor oversight when working on the non-ssl version, the line that disabled it was never removed. - -chris zubrzycki - - -- PGP public key: http://homepage.mac.com/beren/publickey.txt ID: 0xA2ABC070 Fingerprint: 26B0 BA6B A409 FA83 42B3 1688 FBF9 8232 A2AB C070 A cat spends her life conflicted between a deep, passionate and profound desire for fish and an equally deep, passionate and profound desire to avoid getting wet. This is the defining metaphor of my life right now. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkIueEIACgkQ+/mCMqKrwHCxTwCgqrPlcLtTc+YFaKJdtygEnVCy Xs8AoLB6HkFaldvUShkM47Gn4Yl5Xu7r =l0j+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_ide95alloc_id396op=click ___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] Problems with Docbkx412
On Mar 8, 2005, at 9:43 AM, Michèle Garoche wrote: You may try: curl -f -L -O http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.1.2/docbkx412.zip and place the zip file in /sw/src (provided that /sw is your prefix). That did it. Thanks a lot. S. __ Stefano Franchi Department of Philosophy Ph: (64) 9 373-7599 x83940 University Of Auckland Fax: (64) 9 373-7408 Private Bag 92019 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Auckland New Zealand --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_ide95alloc_id396op=click ___ Fink-users mailing list Fink-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] gnome-vfs2-ssl not working with sftp
Le 9 mars 2005, à 5:14, Chris Zubrzycki a écrit : -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mar 8, 2005, at 10:52 PM, Michèle Garoche wrote: Le 8 mars 2005, à 22:19, Kevin Horton a écrit : On a whim, I moved gnome-vfs2-ssl.info and .patch to my local tree, and edited the patch to remove the part that disabled sftp. I rebuilt it, and it works fine with bluefish, as far as I can tell. I was able to open, edit and save a file on a linux-based web server. I have no idea why sftp support was removed from gnome-vfs2. Security concern I guess, though not being able to retrieve any thread about it. Life is good. :) Always :-) It's possible it's a minor oversight when working on the non-ssl version, the line that disabled it was never removed. Chris, the patches are exactly the same for gnome-vfs2-ssl and gnome-vfs2: 1 - gnome-vfs-cdrom is disabled 2 - libsftp is not built Do you mean, if should be activated in gnome-vf2-ssl and not in gnome-vfs2? Or disabled in all versions? What is wrong anyway is that the module (/sw/etc/gnome-vfs-2.0/modules/default-modules.conf) claims it is included though it is not. In case it could be possible to activate it, could that be done, since bluefish uses (that is it does not use it currently, since it is impossible, but may wish to use it) this functionality? Michèle http://micmacfr.homeunix.org PGP.sig Description: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ceci_est_une_signature_=E9lectronique_PGP?=
