Re: [Fink-users] Incomplete Gnome setup - something is broken and don't know how to fix

2007-01-01 Thread Jonas Steverud
17 dec 2006 kl. 10.24 skrev Jonas Steverud:

 I've installed a few parts but it hasn't helped; I think that I need
 to tell Gnome to use a specific theme but since I do not have the
 complete system this fails (e.g. I cannot run the Control Center
 since it cannot load this or that file etc. etc.).

Ok, I have partly fixed the problem but would need some assistance to  
get it completely fixed.

I have installed a number of Gnome packages, to no avial but some  
error messages gave me a few ideas and I now found the problem. For  
some reason, glines (and all other Gnome apps) cannot find and  
correctly handle SVG images. I converted /sw/share/pixmaps/glines/ 
balls.svg and /sw/share/pixmaps/glines/shapes.svg into PNGs (using  
other software, not related to Fink or Gnome) and I can now play  
glines - it will find my newly created PNGs and let me play the game  
(I used both the balls and the shapes).

As far as I can tell I have installed everything that is SVG-related  
in Fink, but obviously not enough. All dependancies are satisfied.

My question is, which library/-ies handles this? Which package should  
I install so get this right?

I've installed all packages I can think of! Any other suggestions?

~/ fink list svg
Information about 6465 packages read in 2 seconds.
[...]
i   librsvg  1.0.3-1013   SAX-based render library for SVG files
i   librsvg-shlibs   1.0.3-1013   SAX-based render library for SVG files
i   librsvg2 2.9.5-11 SAX-based render library for SVG files
i   librsvg2-bin 2.9.5-11 SAX-based render library for SVG files
i   librsvg2-gtk 2.9.5-11 Enable GTK to use SVG data
[...]
i   librsvg2-shlibs  2.9.5-11 SAX-based render library for SVG files
[...]

Any suggestions are welcome!

TIA!

/Jonas

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[Fink-users] Incomplete Gnome setup - something is broken and don't know how to fix

2006-12-17 Thread Jonas Steverud
Hello,
  after a few years it is time to come back and ask questions  
(again). :-)

Last summer I found out that my Gnome setup was broken, I could not  
play the game GLines any longer. I know that this will not make you  
pay attention, the big alarm go off and everyone run around to their  
stations while yellow and/or red lights are flashing in a daunting  
way. But it is a symptom of a deeper problem with my Gnome setup and  
I would very much like some help. Alexander Hansen has given me some  
hints but it haven't gotten me all the way, and I have a few requests  
to the Fink community related to this, thus I decided that I should  
ask here.

So, my system is a combination of binary and source packages  
installed from stable and unstable branch. If a package is available  
in binary I have preferred that since it would reduce the  
installation time, if it is too old and/or only available as source  
package I have selected the source package. If it is unstable or  
stable has not been of my concern, my experience of Fink, and Debian  
before that, is that unstable is far too stable to really be called  
unstable. That was praise if you didn't get it. :-)

When I updated my system last summer I saw (I think) a brief message  
that some images has been removed due to a copyright infringement  
issue and I could no longer play GLines since all images for the game  
where gone. I thought that I should wait a while and see if they  
reappeared but they did not and a few weeks ago I started to dig into  
the issue and sent Alexander Hansen a mail and asked for help. I'm  
grateful for the help he has supplied but since he runs a complete  
system (I will get to this shortly), he couldn't help me very much.  
I've installed quite some parts of Gnome by now and been googling for  
solutions but have found none. Zip. Nil.

The problem seems to be related to the fact that I have not installed  
the entire Gnome system, I've installed gnome-games and anything it  
depends on. This means that I e.g. did not have the Gnome panel.

I've installed a few parts but it hasn't helped; I think that I need  
to tell Gnome to use a specific theme but since I do not have the  
complete system this fails (e.g. I cannot run the Control Center  
since it cannot load this or that file etc. etc.).

I was thinking of installing bundle-gnome but the main problem with  
that is that I would then also download *and compile* firefox -  
something that I've already downloaded as an .app. I do not want to  
have two instances of the same program!

Could someone help me find which packages I need to install so I can  
run glines from the Terminal so I can waste my time, please? I don't  
want the entire Gnome package as I will only use it for playing the  
Gnome games...

If I need the whole system, I do not want to install Firefox - I  
would like to use my installed version of Omniweb instead for help  
viewing.

I had the idea to use the equivs package to make a firefox-system  
package (I really liked the idea with xyz-system packages that where  
available in the old days, has that policy been abandoned? If not,  
could someone please build a generic web browser package that uses  
the system's default  web browser?) - but l then found that the  
equivs package is not ported to Fink!? Is this a plan or just that  
someone haven't done it?

Please, I have no ideas currently how I should be able to fix my  
setup, any help is appreciated. All I want is to be able to play  
glines, I don't want the Gnome panel running or something, I use X11  
since the Gnome games uses it and not Aqua.

I'm sorry, but I don't know what I need to tell you about my system  
(e.g. versions of this or that), please tell me and I'm happy to oblige.

Thank you!

/Jonas

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[Fink-users] How to kill xscreensaver?

2006-12-17 Thread Jonas Steverud
Hello again,
  when I installed a few Gnome packages it was decided for me (grrr)  
that I should install *and use* the xscreensaver. How do I make it go  
away? If I, e.g. write an email, the screensaver will suddenly pop  
into action and blank the screen since I have not been using X11 for  
n minutes. I want to get rid of it but some packages depends on it so  
I cannot uninstall the package.

I could tell it to have a maximum timeout, but sooner or later it  
going to reach that timeframe too, so it is just a badly working kludge.

Please, in which file do I write, or delete, what to prevent it from  
starting at all!?

Thank you!

/Jonas

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[Fink-users] Re: Failed to install source dist on new Mac

2005-06-27 Thread Jonas Steverud
Martin Costabel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Jonas Steverud wrote:
[...]
 This is a typical Xcode-2.1 problem (Not A Bug).

I thought so, but I wanted to report it just in case. :-)

Considering that one can use FinkCommander and then check use
unstable packages in FC and install from source, then there isn't
very much of a point to install the source tar ball, right? Or does the
source and binary dists still contain different sets of packages (IIRC
the number of packages differed between the source and binary dist a
couple of years ago)?

Or is the stable vs. unstable the reason for the number of available
packages?

/Jonas, just curious
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[Fink-users] Failed to install source dist on new Mac

2005-06-26 Thread Jonas Steverud

Hello

Fink failed to compile (latest source dist, fink-0.8.0-full.tar.gz) on
a completely new Powerbook running Tiger, XCode 2.1 and GCC version 4.0.

I have a the complete output (all 500 Kbyte of it) in case someone
needs it.


The last error is:

gcc -I/sw/bootstrap/include -no-cpp-precomp -I/sw/bootstrap/include  -Wall  
-Wwrite-strings -Wpointer-arith -Wimplicit -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes 
-Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarations -Wbad-function-cast -Wcast-qual 
-Wcast-align -Winline -Wmissing-noreturn -Wsign-compare -DHAVE_CONFIG_H 
-D_GNU_SOURCE -DLOCALEDIR=\/sw/bootstrap/share/locale\ 
-I/sw/src/dpkg-bootstrap-1.10.21-201/dpkg-1.10.21/intl -I../intl 
-I/sw/src/dpkg-bootstrap-1.10.21-201/dpkg-1.10.21/include 
-I/sw/src/dpkg-bootstrap-1.10.21-201/dpkg-1.10.21 
-I/sw/src/dpkg-bootstrap-1.10.21-201/dpkg-1.10.21/lib -I../include -I.. -I. 
-I/sw/src/dpkg-bootstrap-1.10.21-201/dpkg-1.10.21/optlib 
-F/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreFoundation.framework  
-DCOPYINGFILE=\/sw/bootstrap/share/doc/dpkg/copyright\ -c dump.c
In file included from dump.c:37:
/sw/src/dpkg-bootstrap-1.10.21-201/dpkg-1.10.21/include/parsedump.h:33: error: 
array type has incomplete element type
dump.c: In function 'w_charfield':
dump.c:95: warning: cast discards qualifiers from pointer target type
dump.c: In function 'w_booleandefno':
dump.c:133: warning: cast discards qualifiers from pointer target type
make[2]: *** [dump.o] Error 1
make[1]: *** [all-lib] Error 2
make: *** [all-recursive] Error 2
### execution of make failed, exit code 2
compiling dpkg-bootstrap-1.10.21-201 failed



I successfully downloaded and installed the binary dist and used
FinkCommander to compile and install packages from the source dist
(e.g. 

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[Fink-users] Re: Failed to install source dist on new Mac

2005-06-26 Thread Jonas Steverud
Jonas Steverud [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

[...]
 I successfully downloaded and installed the binary dist and used
 FinkCommander to compile and install packages from the source dist
 (e.g. 

[My email program crashed in mid-loop]

(e.g. bogofilter and possibly some other package).
I hope that this is sufficient with information to continue with your
marvelous work, otherwise please do ask. :-)

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[Fink-users] Re: fink support for firefox, sunbird?

2005-02-13 Thread Jonas Steverud
Joe Corneli [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Just wondering if anyone would be interested in adding firefox or
 sunbird to the fink package repository.  I've had the darndest time
 getting them to build for use under X11.

Just out of curiousity; considering they are available as native Aqua
applications, why would you (or anyone) like to have them as X11 apps?

I'm convinced there is a perfectly sensible reason for this, I just
can see it myself. :-)

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[Fink-users] Emacs: Which site-lisp to use?

2004-11-17 Thread Jonas Steverud

Hello.

I've several site-lisp directories on my system - I don't quite know
which Emacs installation created which but these are what I've found:

/sw/etc/lisp/emacs/20.7/site-lisp
/sw/etc/lisp/emacs/21.2/site-lisp
/sw/etc/lisp/emacs/21.3.50/site-lisp
/sw/etc/lisp/emacs/21.3/site-lisp
/sw/etc/lisp/emacs/site-lisp
/sw/share/emacs/21.3.50/site-lisp
/sw/share/emacs/site-lisp
/sw/share/emacs21/site-lisp
/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp
/usr/share/emacs/21.2/site-lisp
/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp

What made me a bit confused was that not all are loaded by load-path;

load-path =
/sw/share/emacs/21.3.50/site-lisp
/sw/share/emacs/site-lisp
/sw/share/emacs21/site-lisp/
/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp

I have two questions:

1. I think I can clean out a few of the directories, but which ones
   are used by fink's Emacs? I can deduce that from the load-path but
   I'm looking for the policy here.

2. Which one should I add my own code in? I've seen some subdirs.el
   and I can't quite figure out how these are used. When are they
   loaded and by whom? I would like to add subdirectories in
   /foo/site-lisp (one of the dirs that is the answer to number 1
   above) but will they automatically be added to the load-path or do
   I have to add code in my .emacs to add them?

3. How much is the Emacs installation (i.e. where to look for files
   etc.) is modified by the fink folks and how much by Debian?


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[Fink-users] Re: Always on top

2004-10-22 Thread Jonas Steverud
Danny Lemay [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Is there a way to make xmms or orther apps always on top?

That might depend on your window manager. IIRC ctwm had that feature.

But to make them on top even when using Aqua applications, I'm quite
convinced it's not possible. (Save writing your own WM and hack X11.app.)

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[Fink-users] Re: Problems with fink selfupdate-cvs

2004-10-17 Thread Jonas Steverud
Roman Poeschl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Dear Fink Experts,

 after quite sometime I wanted to update my fink installation.

 I run fink selfupdate-cvs which died with the following message

 (Reading database ... 90160 files and directories currently installed.)
 Preparing to replace fink 0.14.0-1 (using
 .../fink_0.17.1-1_darwin-powerpc.deb) ...
 Unpacking replacement fink ...
 Setting up fink (0.17.1-1) ...
 Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) at
 /sw/lib/perl5/Fink/Config.pm line 128.
 Distribution not set in config file !

In /sw/etc/fink.conf there is a line like Distribution: 10.3, you
probably lacks it. Here is my fink.conf, how does your looks?


--
# Fink configuration, initially created by bootstrap.pl
Basepath: /sw
RootMethod: sudo
# unstable/main tillagd 2002-02-17
Trees: local/main stable/main stable/crypto local/bootstrap unstable/main
Mirror-ctan: ftp://ftp.sunsite.kth.se/pub/mirrors/ctan/
Mirror-gimp: ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/gnu/gimp/
Mirror-gnome: ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/X11/GNOME/
Mirror-gnu: ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/gnu/
MirrorContinent: eur
MirrorCountry: eur-se
ProxyPassiveFTP: true
Verbose: 3
Distribution: 10.3
SelfUpdateMethod: rsync
Mirror-cpan: ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/lang/perl/CPAN/
Mirror-debian: http://ftp.se.debian.org/debian/
Mirror-kde: ftp://ftp.se.kde.org/pub/kde/
Mirror-master: http://distfiles.master.finkmirrors.net/
Mirror-rsync: rsync://master.us.finkmirrors.net/finkinfo/
Mirror-sourceforge: http://eu.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/
MirrorOrder: MasterFirst
Mirror-apt: http://us.dl.sourceforge.net/fink/direct_download
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BTW, does my Trees line make sense? I added unstable/main to it a very
long time ago and don't know it anything has changed since then.

HTH.

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[Fink-users] Re: fink mirrors domain has expired ?

2004-10-16 Thread Jonas Steverud
Tim Wilson-Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi,

 Does anyone else get redirected to a page like:
 http://www.expireddomain.us/expire.php?domain=FINKMIRRORS.NET

 when they go to:
 http://finkmirrors.net/

Same here, without knowing I assume there is some phishing attack
going on. The finkmirrors.net domain has been kidnapped.

But I don't claim to know and when I tried to check up on
www.expireddomain.us using www.dnsstuff.com, the latter didn't work
so I don't know who www.expireddomain.us are. I don't have any goods
tools to find out who's behind a domain and those I have, I don't
know how to use. ;-)

I live in Sweden so this is not a local problem (I assume you live in
Australia or there about from the mirror you tried to access, right?).

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[Fink-users] Re: lost home directory

2004-10-13 Thread Jonas Steverud
Wayne Brehob [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Mon, 11 Oct 2004, Christian SIMON wrote:
[...]
 There is a system 'unlink' command, and I believe this can be used to
 remove directories as well as files.

There is just a slight problem to the reasoning: If unlink has been
used (I don't have the documentation for it so I can't double check)
but on Un*x systems in general, a file is not removed as long as any
program uses the file or directory. The idea behind this is that a
program can create a file in /tmp and then remove it. That way the
temporary file will be removed from the system as soon as the program
quits - even if it crashes. No more left-behind temporary files.

If you logged in I assume your home directory is marked as used by
your master process and will not be removed as long as that one is
still living. As soon as you reboot or log off, it dies.

I have no idea what the problem is, but if this is the problem, all
your files will be deleted as soon as you reboot - or more
specifically, when you log off.

You might maybe, maybe save it by simply cut the power - not
selecting power down but simple remove the cord and the
battery. When you then switches on, the system will detect a dirty
file system, i.e. one that isn't properly unmounted, and run a fsck.

I would suggest a couple of hours of searching and asking in different
Linux forums. USENET might be an option if you is familiar with it
(can be accessed via Google's Groups). I'm convinced similar problems
has been discussed before (not necessarily the problem with the home
directory but how to un-unlink).

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[Fink-users] Re: contacts1.1 build failure

2004-10-06 Thread Jonas Steverud
Viv Kendon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Just tried to install contacts1.1  and got
[...]
 Perhaps a symbolic link is missing on my system??  Can
 someone else confirm it builds OK for them? I did a find for
 MacTypes.h and found it in

It builds and runs OK out of the box for me, I just tried. I have two
MacTypes.h (found with locate MacTypes.h):

/Developer/Headers/FlatCarbon/MacTypes.h

/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CarbonCo
re.framework/Versions/A/Headers/MacTypes.h

The former is not a symlink and the two versions differ.

Do you have the latest XCode?

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[Fink-users] Cleaning up a fink installation

2004-10-05 Thread Jonas Steverud

Hello,
I've quite recently succeeded in upgrading Fink to the latest version
and started to update the packages.

During the upgrade I noticed several directory structures I was
thinking of removing but before I wreak havoc in my directory
structure, I would like to check with the list to see that I don't do
anything stupid.

/sw/fink.old - I assume I created this when updating to Fink for
10.2, but I am not sure. Is it used or can I remove it?

/sw/fink/10.2

/sw/fink/10.2-gcc3.3

/sw/fink/old - probably created by me but I don't remember, created
2:nd of January 2003.

TIA.

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Re: OO setup, was Re: [Fink-users] OpenOffice.organd fink: anygotchas?

2003-06-28 Thread Jonas Steverud
Adrian Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 For the record:

 After following the tips suggested by Alexander and Viktor and reading
 the OpenOffice docs here's what I did: For dlcompat:

This thread made me think that I should do the same (is a Fink package
that takes care of this a good idea, i.e. system-openoffice.org.deb?)
but then, how do I uninstall the dlcompat that came with OOo? Is it
as simple as just deleting the files mentioned?

# ls /usr/local/lib
BibTool  libgdraw.1.0.3.dylib  libgdraw.la  libgunicode.dylib
libdl.a  libgdraw.1.dylib  libgunicode.2.0.0.dylib  libgunicode.la
libdl.dylib  libgdraw.dyliblibgunicode.2.dylib

Anyone who knows from where the rest of the files might have come? Are
they available from Fink so I could replace them?

I prefer Fink over having /usr/local full of strange files.

TIA.

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[Fink-users] Installing Debian packages on Fink?

2003-06-28 Thread Jonas Steverud

Something that struk me yesterday was that in Debian there are a lot
of packages that doesn't contain any binaries, like the ispell
dictionaries, and it would be nice if those where available in fink
too. My question now is how much work is it to port these non-binary
packages to Fink in general?

Or can one use dpkg --root=/sw --install
package-directly-from-Debian.deb (or whatever is correct syntax) to
install e.g. a ispell dictionary that isn't already available?

Would the installation scripts in the packages work /in general/?

I am aware that the possibility that there exists packages that have
installation scripts that need some porting is strictly greater then
zero.  :-)

I have no specific package in mind, it's the principle that interests me.

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[Fink-users] Re: Apple X11 or not?

2003-03-19 Thread Jonas Steverud
Ronny Wikh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I'd very much appreciate if someone please could sum up the 
 reasons pro and con to use either Apple's X11 or the fink
 XFree86 version?

It has been asked and answered before (around the time of both beta 1
and beta 2). I'm convinced you can find the main reasons for either
choice in the archives of both the Fink lists and Apple's X11 list
(located at Apple's site). :-)

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[Fink-users] Re: new teTeX

2003-02-03 Thread Jonas Steverud
David R. Morrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Yesterday saw a major new release of teTeX,

What are the benefits of this release over Gerben Wierda's release?
(Except that this is a fink package with all those benefits.) More
updated, more often updated, works better, not so many/quite so many
more additions by the package maintainer...?

I.e. which one should I use? ;-)

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[Fink-users] Re: Easy way to cleaning out old .deb?

2003-01-12 Thread Jonas Steverud
Peter O'Gorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 There is a (not yet documented) fink cleanup command too for debs
 built locally.

 'fink cleanup'
 Will remove any debs not at the latest version from /sw/fink/dists

Oh, good. (I use the CVS version of fink, not the binary dist.)

I found that it doesn't touch /sw/fink/10.1 (/sw/fink/dists points to
10.2). Can I do rm -rf on /sw/fink/10.1 if I run Jaguar and does not
intend to downgrade?

In that case, all those dangling symlinks in /sw/fink/debs that will
occur then, is there some easy way of getting rid of them? Or do a rm
of all and then generate the proper links?

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[Fink-users] Re: X11 and multiple users

2003-01-10 Thread Jonas Steverud
William Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I think I have found out how to use X-windows with multiple users.

 The X11 session creates a file and a directory with another file in
 /tmp, i.e.,
[...]
 If you delete these manually before logging out, then X11 can be
 started with another user's account.

 I am afraid I don't know how to tell Apple OS X to do delete these
 automatically upon logging out (/etc/csh.logout was wrong).

Silly question: I assume you do not do a exec bash in your .cshrc
and you do not use any other shell then (t)csh as your login shell?
I.e. do you really modify the correct logout file? (I assume so, but
it is very easy to overlook the obvious.)

Benjamin Riefenstahl had the following to say in the Help: ISPELL and
Aqua EMACS (OSX) thread in gnu.emacs.help:

--8
The environment for the loginwindow and thus the Finder can be
statically configured in ~/.MacOSX/environment.plist, see URL:
http://developer.apple.com/techpubs/macosx/Essentials/SystemOverview/BootingLogin/Customization_Techniques.html
--8

If you select Show frames, and look at the Customize the login and
logout section, there is one solution. I really don't think this is
the Right Way, it is a bit of a kludge to solve your problem, but you
asked for any advice... ;-)

The only other way I can think of, from the top of my head, is to write
a wrapper script, which is used to start X11.app, and then waits for
it to terminate and then removes the files. How to sit and wait in a
good way, I do not know. Applescript?

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[Fink-users] Swedish characters doesn't show in Gnumeric

2002-07-27 Thread Jonas Steverud


I've downloaded the latest Gnumeric, 1.0.9-1, after doing a
selfupdate-cvs earlier today but a problem I've had since March at
least is that in the cells, all text after a swedish character, the
character included, is truncated and not shown. The text string is all
right in the editing window/line above the spread sheet. I.e. the cell
value 'Gullbär is shown in the spread sheet as Gullb but in the
editing line as 'Gullbär.

As far as my tests has shown, this has nothing to do with the specific
font used. Anyone who has any input? I have made an example at
URL:http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/~d4jonas/Temp/gnumeric-test.gnumeric
where all the red cells should show a swedish character (å,ä or ö).

I use OroborOSX 0.8preview2.

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[Fink-users] Re: anti-aliased fonts

2002-07-19 Thread Jonas Steverud

Ken Engel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Has anyone got anti-aliased or TrueType fonts working...for anything?

I'm not sure anti-aliasing is implemented in X11. Fonts are a
recurring pain for X11 and one of the reasons I bought a Mac.

It might be so that it has been fixed in later versions of XFree86 and
window managares then the one I played around with on my Debian
system. In fink, I use OroborOSX and haven't fooled around with these
issues.

But I think that you in the first place need a window manager that
supports it, i.e. use the correct API.

But don't take my word for it, it's a wild shot.

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[Fink-users] Re: I spammed?

2002-06-28 Thread Jonas Steverud

Joe Laffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Sorry to take up your time, and once again I am truly sorry if anyone
 received some HTML mail from me. I have no clue where it came from...

If it was a spam, it might be so that the spammer put you up as sender
and that is was mor or less sheer coincidence that a list member got
the spam.

It is not uncommon today that spammers put some innocent on the
From-line. Why? I don't know but maybe to get past some spam
filters or to trick the truly gullible.

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