[Fink-users] Apple's X11 or what have I screwed up
I followed the instructions on installing Apples X11 as best I could give my circumstances. This is on my powerbook (no mouse hooked up at the moment) December 2002 tools, recent failed attempts to update everything, and following the instructions to install as spelled out on the fink web sited. (dpkg to force remove my xfree86, install the SDK and X11 user, fink selfupdate-cvs, etc.) I had been using the threaded versions of xfree86, so I'm sure I have some application issues. I also seem to be in the middle of an unsuccessful attempt to update KDE and I'm not even sure if that is relevant anymore. I need a little help to answer the following questions: 1. How to I remove/replace any apps that depended on threaded with ones that don't? What window manager options do I have? I was using KDE before. As my KDE set up seems slightly screwed anyhow and I have a dependency problem that is preventing me from updating. But if I can't use it with Apples X11 then I want to remove it - rather than fix it. Unpacking replacement kdelibs3-ssl-dev ... dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of kdelibs3-ssl-dev: kdelibs3-ssl-dev depends on kdelibs3-ssl (= 3.1-1); however: Version of kdelibs3-ssl on system is 3.0.7-4. dpkg: error processing kdelibs3-ssl-dev (--install): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Errors were encountered while processing: [blah blah blah] 2. Can I use the KDE setup? Not required for what I want. How do I start the quartz-wm. Without an .xinitrc I just get TWM and nothing shows up as a running app in the top window bar. When I run startx and exit out of the console window in TWM everything closes anyhow. 3. How can I get an X app icon back in Applications and in the Dock. I don't think I should have to run startx from the terminal. Here is what happens with startx. [broomstick:~] josh% startx XFree86 Version 4.2.1 / X Window System (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6600) Release Date: 3 September 2002 If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your hardware is newer than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting problems. (See http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ) Operating System: Darwin OSVendor Using keymapping provided in /System/Library/Keyboards/USA.keymapping. _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root PseudoramiX screen 0 added: 1024x768 @ (0,0). PseudoramiX screen 0 placed at X11 coordinate (0,0). [DRI] screen 0 installation complete Screen 0 added: 1024x768 @ (0,0) cat: /Users/josh/.Xauthority: No such file or directory The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports: Error:Can't find file unknown for geometry include Exiting Abandoning geometry file (null) Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports: Error:Can't find file unknown for geometry include Exiting Abandoning geometry file (null) Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports: Error:Can't find file unknown for geometry include Exiting Abandoning geometry file (null) Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server waiting for X server to shut down X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown). Quitting XDarwin... -- Josh Kuperman [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] Apple's X11 or what have I screwed up
On Wed, 2003-01-08 at 11:29, Josh Kuperman wrote: I followed the instructions on installing Apples X11 as best I could give my circumstances. This is on my powerbook (no mouse hooked up at the moment) December 2002 tools, recent failed attempts to update everything, and following the instructions to install as spelled out on the fink web sited. (dpkg to force remove my xfree86, install the SDK and X11 user, fink selfupdate-cvs, etc.) I had been using the threaded versions of xfree86, so I'm sure I have some application issues. I also seem to be in the middle of an unsuccessful attempt to update KDE and I'm not even sure if that is relevant anymore. I need a little help to answer the following questions: 1. How to I remove/replace any apps that depended on threaded with ones that don't? What window manager options do I have? I was using KDE before. As my KDE set up seems slightly screwed anyhow and I have a dependency problem that is preventing me from updating. But if I can't use it with Apples X11 then I want to remove it - rather than fix it. KDE works OK--I built some components against the Apple X and it looks fine. Unpacking replacement kdelibs3-ssl-dev ... dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of kdelibs3-ssl-dev: kdelibs3-ssl-dev depends on kdelibs3-ssl (= 3.1-1); however: Version of kdelibs3-ssl on system is 3.0.7-4. dpkg: error processing kdelibs3-ssl-dev (--install): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Errors were encountered while processing: This happened to me several times, too. I just kept doing update-alls until all the packages got installed. [blah blah blah] 2. Can I use the KDE setup? Not required for what I want. How do I start the quartz-wm. Without an .xinitrc I just get TWM and nothing shows up as a running app in the top window bar. When I run startx and exit out of the console window in TWM everything closes anyhow. What do you mean by use the KDE setup? In your .xinitrc you should call quartz-wm instead of twm, if you want to run Apple X. One thing to note is that there's no fullscreen mode--rootless only. 3. How can I get an X app icon back in Applications and in the Dock. I don't think I should have to run startx from the terminal. There's an app called X11, which is what you get instead of XDarwin. Here is what happens with startx. [broomstick:~] josh% startx XFree86 Version 4.2.1 / X Window System (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6600) Release Date: 3 September 2002 If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your hardware is newer than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting problems. (See http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ) Operating System: Darwin OSVendor Using keymapping provided in /System/Library/Keyboards/USA.keymapping. _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root PseudoramiX screen 0 added: 1024x768 @ (0,0). PseudoramiX screen 0 placed at X11 coordinate (0,0). [DRI] screen 0 installation complete Screen 0 added: 1024x768 @ (0,0) cat: /Users/josh/.Xauthority: No such file or directory Try 'touch /Users/josh/.Xauthority' to create this file. The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports: Error:Can't find file unknown for geometry include Exiting Abandoning geometry file (null) Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports: Error:Can't find file unknown for geometry include Exiting Abandoning geometry file (null) Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports: Error:Can't find file unknown for geometry include Exiting Abandoning geometry file (null) Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server waiting for X server to shut down X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown). Quitting XDarwin... -- Josh Kuperman [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users -- Alexander K. Hansen Associate Research Scientist, Columbia University visiting MIT Plasma Science and Fusion Center Levitated Dipole Experiment 175 Albany Street, NW17-219 Cambridge, MA 02139-4213 --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Fink-users] Apple's X11 or what have I screwed up
On Wed, Jan 08, 2003 at 12:33:18PM -0500, Alexander Hansen wrote: On Wed, 2003-01-08 at 11:29, Josh Kuperman wrote: [snip] KDE works OK--I built some components against the Apple X and it looks fine. Well then wouldn't I have to remove what I have and reinstall in order for it to use the Apple stuff with the system-xfree86 placeholder. [blah blah blah] What do you mean by use the KDE setup? I meant have kde be the window manager. Though now that I found the X11 app and got it to start up I think I stick with the quartz-wm for a while. In your .xinitrc you should call quartz-wm instead of twm, if you want to run Apple X. I had been taking advantage of some of kde's features and games and its bar and multiple workspaces. I don't know whats available but if X11 apps are using the Aqua interface as they seem to I might be all set.. My current .xinitrc seems to consist of this (with all comment lines removed) #!/bin/sh source /sw/bin/init.sh exec quartz-wm Try 'touch /Users/josh/.Xauthority' to create this file. Remarkably, with this file added and starting from the x11 app, now in the doc it seems to work. I will test further. But it's neat - I'm impressed. -- Josh Kuperman [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] Apple's X11 or what have I screwed up
On Wed, 2003-01-08 at 15:10, Josh Kuperman wrote: snip I meant have kde be the window manager. Though now that I found the X11 app and got it to start up I think I stick with the quartz-wm for a while. You can indeed use KDE, too. -- Alexander K. Hansen Associate Research Scientist, Columbia University visiting MIT Plasma Science and Fusion Center Levitated Dipole Experiment 175 Albany Street, NW17-219 Cambridge, MA 02139-4213 --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] Apple's X11 or what have I screwed up
On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 12:10 PM, Josh Kuperman wrote: I had been taking advantage of some of kde's features and games and its bar and multiple workspaces. I don't know whats available but if X11 apps are using the Aqua interface as they seem to I might be all set.. My current .xinitrc seems to consist of this (with all comment lines removed) #!/bin/sh source /sw/bin/init.sh exec quartz-wm I tried to exec startkde instead of exec quartz-wm. This went half way thru (I saw KDE desktop), but died out eventually. Kow --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
