Re: [Fink-users] ssh/ForwardX11/DISPLAY problem
On Tuesday, November 5, 2002, at 01:57 AM, Martin Costabel wrote: I have also heard from people who use /usr/sbin/sshd for X forwarding without problems, yet I never got it to work with any of our Macs. There were problems with X forwarding in the earlier 10.0 versions of MacOSX. Since a long time now I haven't had any problem with X forwarding and either fink's or Apple's ssh and sshd. Ha, you're right. I _did_ hear that it was supposed to work as of 10.0.4 or 5 or 10.1 at least (that's what I was referring to), and it did improve in so far as it would actually set DISPLAY to localhost:10.0 or something, but trying to launch any X program would always just produce this kind of error message: xload debug1: client_input_channel_open: ctype x11 rchan 3 win 4096 max 2048 debug1: client_request_x11: request from 128.192.19.18 49522 debug1: fd 7 setting O_NONBLOCK debug1: channel 1: new [x11] debug1: confirm x11 debug1: X11 connection uses different authentication protocol. debug1: X11 rejected 1 i1/o16 debug1: channel 1: read failed debug1: channel 1: input open - drain debug1: channel 1: close_read debug1: channel 1: write failed debug1: channel 1: output open - closed debug1: channel 1: close_write debug1: X11 closed 1 i2/o128 ^Cdebug1: channel 1: rcvd eof debug1: channel 1: FORCE input drain ^\Quit With both Apple's and Fink's sshd. When I finally got this sorted out, it would work with /sw/sbin/sshd on most machines, but not with /usr/sbin/sshd. After that I found out about the problem with the old .Xauthority files, removal of which fixed it on the remaining systems that did not work before, but I guess I never tried the Apple sshd after that. Turned out this one works now just as well... Morale: purge your old authentication certificates first, if you see errors like this! Thanks, Derek --- This sf.net email is sponsored by: See the NEW Palm Tungsten T handheld. Power Color in a compact size! http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?palm0001en ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] ssh/ForwardX11/DISPLAY problem
Stupid questions are often the most valuable; yes, I did check that DISPLAY was set on my home machine (I can never get client and Server straight in my head, but I think this is the server, the physical display, and DISPLAY is set to :0 [localhost:~] hodelas% echo $DISPLAY :0 [localhost:~] hodelas% ssh $cube [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password: Last login: Sun Nov 3 15:32:43 2002 from adsl-157-133-20 Welcome to Darwin! [mymachine:~] hodelas% echo $DISPLAY DISPLAY: Undefined variable. On Monday, November 4, 2002, at 12:33 AM, Martin Costabel wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [] be to blame. I can remote log in, but the DISPLAY variable is still missing. Sorry for the stupid question, but nobody asked before: Are you sure that you did set DISPLAY in the window from which you are doing your ssh? -- Martin --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: ApacheCon, November 18-21 in Las Vegas (supported by COMDEX), the only Apache event to be fully supported by the ASF. http://www.apachecon.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] ssh/ForwardX11/DISPLAY problem
[mymachine:~] hodelas% find .[a-z]* -type f -exec grep DISPLAY {} \;
-print
echo $DISPLAY
.bash_history
echo $DISPLAY
.tcsh_history
.cshrc only souces /sw/bin/init.csh, so I'm at a loss of where else to
look.
On Monday, November 4, 2002, at 01:58 AM, Hisashi T Fujinaka wrote:
And now that I think about it, doesn't ssh check your environment and
execute your shell commands? Make sure something else isn't hosing your
DISPLAY.
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[]
be to blame. I can
remote log in, but the DISPLAY variable is still missing.
Sorry for the stupid question, but nobody asked before: Are you sure
that you did set DISPLAY in the window from which you are doing your
ssh?
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Re: [Fink-users] ssh/ForwardX11/DISPLAY problem
On Sunday, November 3, 2002, at 10:11 PM, Derek Homeier wrote: Finally, I never got X11 forwarding to work with OS X's openssh daemon, so you may want to make sure that it is actually /sw/sbin/sshd that's running and nothing else. As a last diagnostic tool, you can start the daemon manually with 'sudo /sw/sbin/sshd -ddd' and watch out for debug messages on the server side. This appears to be a part of the problem: [mymachine:~] hodelas% /sw/sbin/sshd -ddd debug1: sshd version OpenSSH_3.5p1 Could not load host key: /sw/etc/ssh/ssh_host_key Could not load host key: /sw/etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key Could not load host key: /sw/etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key Disabling protocol version 1. Could not load host key Disabling protocol version 2. Could not load host key sshd: no hostkeys available -- exiting. These host key files were not installed by fink install openssh. Under 10.1 I was able to copy these files from /etc, but they don't seem to be working with 10.2 for some reason. Will do some hunting to see what;s up. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: ApacheCon, November 18-21 in Las Vegas (supported by COMDEX), the only Apache event to be fully supported by the ASF. http://www.apachecon.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] ssh/ForwardX11/DISPLAY problem
On Monday, November 4, 2002, at 11:16 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Finally, I never got X11 forwarding to work with OS X's openssh daemon, so you may want to make sure that it is actually /sw/sbin/sshd that's running and nothing else. As a last diagnostic tool, you can start the daemon manually with 'sudo /sw/sbin/sshd -ddd' and watch out for debug messages on the server side. This appears to be a part of the problem: [mymachine:~] hodelas% /sw/sbin/sshd -ddd debug1: sshd version OpenSSH_3.5p1 Could not load host key: /sw/etc/ssh/ssh_host_key Could not load host key: /sw/etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key Could not load host key: /sw/etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key Disabling protocol version 1. Could not load host key Disabling protocol version 2. Could not load host key sshd: no hostkeys available -- exiting. These host key files were not installed by fink install openssh. Under 10.1 I was able to copy these files from /etc, but they don't seem to be working with 10.2 for some reason. Will do some hunting to see what;s up. They should be created automatically the first time you launch it via the StartupItem you can install with 'daemonic enable ssh' -- you can do that manually with 'sudo /Library/StartupItems/daemonic-ssh/daemonic-ssh start' if you have not rebooted yet. Although I have had no problems using the keys copied from /etc over to /sw/etc/ssh (or maybe I copied them the other way round) with both OpenSSH 3.4 and 3.5. Saves you dealing with changed hostkeys and all the associated warnings, security alerts, alarm code red etc. but YMMV -- I have also heard from people who use /usr/sbin/sshd for X forwarding without problems, yet I never got it to work with any of our Macs. Derek --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: ApacheCon, November 18-21 in Las Vegas (supported by COMDEX), the only Apache event to be fully supported by the ASF. http://www.apachecon.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] ssh/ForwardX11/DISPLAY problem
Derek Homeier wrote: [] I have also heard from people who use /usr/sbin/sshd for X forwarding without problems, yet I never got it to work with any of our Macs. There were problems with X forwarding in the earlier 10.0 versions of MacOSX. Since a long time now I haven't had any problem with X forwarding and either fink's or Apple's ssh and sshd. -- Martin --- This sf.net email is sponsored by: See the NEW Palm Tungsten T handheld. Power Color in a compact size! http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?palm0001en ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] ssh/ForwardX11/DISPLAY problem
in /sw/etc/ssh/sshd_config and /etc/sshd_config X11Forwarding yes all other values as installed. Another possible culprit (I need to check) are the MATLAB-installed changes to X11R6 under Jaguar. I did a re-install of X11R6 while at work tonight; I'll try it out again when I get home to see if things behave. After I get some sleep, that is. Thanks, ash On Sunday, November 3, 2002, at 01:18 AM, Martin Costabel wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just upgraded my office machine to Jaguar and am no longer able to run X-apps from home due to X-forwarding problems. I've set ForwardX11 to yes in both /etc/ssh_config and (after installing openssh from fink) in /sw/etc/ssh/ssh_config. I've also tried logging And in sshd_config? -- Martin --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: ApacheCon, November 18-21 in Las Vegas (supported by COMDEX), the only Apache event to be fully supported by the ASF. http://www.apachecon.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: ApacheCon, November 18-21 in Las Vegas (supported by COMDEX), the only Apache event to be fully supported by the ASF. http://www.apachecon.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] ssh/ForwardX11/DISPLAY problem
I usually start deleting .Xauthority until things work. On Sun, 3 Nov 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: in /sw/etc/ssh/sshd_config and /etc/sshd_config X11Forwarding yes all other values as installed. Another possible culprit (I need to check) are the MATLAB-installed changes to X11R6 under Jaguar. I did a re-install of X11R6 while at work tonight; I'll try it out again when I get home to see if things behave. After I get some sleep, that is. Thanks, ash On Sunday, November 3, 2002, at 01:18 AM, Martin Costabel wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just upgraded my office machine to Jaguar and am no longer able to run X-apps from home due to X-forwarding problems. I've set ForwardX11 to yes in both /etc/ssh_config and (after installing openssh from fink) in /sw/etc/ssh/ssh_config. I've also tried logging And in sshd_config? -- Martin --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: ApacheCon, November 18-21 in Las Vegas (supported by COMDEX), the only Apache event to be fully supported by the ASF. http://www.apachecon.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: ApacheCon, November 18-21 in Las Vegas (supported by COMDEX), the only Apache event to be fully supported by the ASF. http://www.apachecon.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users -- Hisashi T Fujinaka - [EMAIL PROTECTED] BSEE (6/86) + BSChem (3/95) + BAEnglish (8/95) + $2.50 = mocha latte --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: ApacheCon, November 18-21 in Las Vegas (supported by COMDEX), the only Apache event to be fully supported by the ASF. http://www.apachecon.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] ssh/ForwardX11/DISPLAY problem
Thanks. Neither than nor my Matlab X11R6 patch idea seemed to have any effect. On Sunday, November 3, 2002, at 03:12 AM, Hisashi T Fujinaka wrote: I usually start deleting .Xauthority until things work. On Sun, 3 Nov 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: in /sw/etc/ssh/sshd_config and /etc/sshd_config X11Forwarding yes all other values as installed. Another possible culprit (I need to check) are the MATLAB-installed changes to X11R6 under Jaguar. I did a re-install of X11R6 while at work tonight; I'll try it out again when I get home to see if things behave. After I get some sleep, that is. Thanks, ash On Sunday, November 3, 2002, at 01:18 AM, Martin Costabel wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just upgraded my office machine to Jaguar and am no longer able to run X-apps from home due to X-forwarding problems. I've set ForwardX11 to yes in both /etc/ssh_config and (after installing openssh from fink) in /sw/etc/ssh/ssh_config. I've also tried logging And in sshd_config? -- Martin --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: ApacheCon, November 18-21 in Las Vegas (supported by COMDEX), the only Apache event to be fully supported by the ASF. http://www.apachecon.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: ApacheCon, November 18-21 in Las Vegas (supported by COMDEX), the only Apache event to be fully supported by the ASF. http://www.apachecon.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users -- Hisashi T Fujinaka - [EMAIL PROTECTED] BSEE (6/86) + BSChem (3/95) + BAEnglish (8/95) + $2.50 = mocha latte --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: ApacheCon, November 18-21 in Las Vegas (supported by COMDEX), the only Apache event to be fully supported by the ASF. http://www.apachecon.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: ApacheCon, November 18-21 in Las Vegas (supported by COMDEX), the only Apache event to be fully supported by the ASF. http://www.apachecon.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] ssh/ForwardX11/DISPLAY problem
Now that I read your message, I think my fix isn't valid. You also need to make sure you restart sshd after editing the file (or 'kill -HUP' it to have it re-read the config file) and then do some hunting by starting ssh with some -v's like: ssh -v -v -v [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sun, 3 Nov 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks. Neither than nor my Matlab X11R6 patch idea seemed to have any effect. On Sunday, November 3, 2002, at 03:12 AM, Hisashi T Fujinaka wrote: I usually start deleting .Xauthority until things work. On Sun, 3 Nov 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: in /sw/etc/ssh/sshd_config and /etc/sshd_config X11Forwarding yes all other values as installed. Another possible culprit (I need to check) are the MATLAB-installed changes to X11R6 under Jaguar. I did a re-install of X11R6 while at work tonight; I'll try it out again when I get home to see if things behave. After I get some sleep, that is. Thanks, ash On Sunday, November 3, 2002, at 01:18 AM, Martin Costabel wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just upgraded my office machine to Jaguar and am no longer able to run X-apps from home due to X-forwarding problems. I've set ForwardX11 to yes in both /etc/ssh_config and (after installing openssh from fink) in /sw/etc/ssh/ssh_config. I've also tried logging And in sshd_config? -- Martin --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: ApacheCon, November 18-21 in Las Vegas (supported by COMDEX), the only Apache event to be fully supported by the ASF. http://www.apachecon.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: ApacheCon, November 18-21 in Las Vegas (supported by COMDEX), the only Apache event to be fully supported by the ASF. http://www.apachecon.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users -- Hisashi T Fujinaka - [EMAIL PROTECTED] BSEE (6/86) + BSChem (3/95) + BAEnglish (8/95) + $2.50 = mocha latte --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: ApacheCon, November 18-21 in Las Vegas (supported by COMDEX), the only Apache event to be fully supported by the ASF. http://www.apachecon.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users -- Hisashi T Fujinaka - [EMAIL PROTECTED] BSEE (6/86) + BSChem (3/95) + BAEnglish (8/95) + $2.50 = mocha latte --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: ApacheCon, November 18-21 in Las Vegas (supported by COMDEX), the only Apache event to be fully supported by the ASF. http://www.apachecon.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] ssh/ForwardX11/DISPLAY problem
ssh -X -v -v -v ${mymachine} yields;
[skipped output not related to X11]
debug2: x11_get_proto /usr/X11R6/bin/xauth list :0 2/dev/null
debug1: Requesting X11 forwarding with authentication spoofing.
debug1: channel request 0: x11-req
debug1: channel request 0: shell
debug1: fd 3 setting TCP_NODELAY
debug2: callback done
debug1: channel 0: open confirm rwindow 0 rmax 32768
debug2: channel 0: rcvd adjust 131072
Last login: Sun Nov 3 15:31:35 2002 from adsl-157-133-20
Welcome to Darwin!
So it looks like it's trying to set up X11 forwarding, but the DISPLAY
variable remains unset.
I wonder if some parameter in the Jaguar network/sharing preferences may
be to blame. I can
remote log in, but the DISPLAY variable is still missing.
On Sunday, November 3, 2002, at 11:22 AM, Hisashi T Fujinaka wrote:
Now that I read your message, I think my fix isn't valid. You also need
to
make sure you restart sshd after editing the file (or 'kill -HUP' it to
have it re-read the config file) and then do some hunting by starting
ssh
with some -v's like: ssh -v -v -v [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 3 Nov 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks. Neither than nor my Matlab X11R6 patch idea seemed to have any
effect.
On Sunday, November 3, 2002, at 03:12 AM, Hisashi T Fujinaka wrote:
I usually start deleting .Xauthority until things work.
On Sun, 3 Nov 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
in /sw/etc/ssh/sshd_config and /etc/sshd_config
X11Forwarding yes
all other values as installed.
Another possible culprit (I need to check) are the MATLAB-installed
changes to X11R6 under Jaguar. I did a re-install of X11R6 while at
work tonight; I'll try it out again when I get home to see if things
behave. After I get some sleep, that is.
Thanks,
ash
On Sunday, November 3, 2002, at 01:18 AM, Martin Costabel wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I just upgraded my office machine to Jaguar and am no longer able
to
run
X-apps from home due to X-forwarding problems.
I've set ForwardX11 to yes in both /etc/ssh_config and (after
installing
openssh from fink) in /sw/etc/ssh/ssh_config. I've also tried
logging
And in sshd_config?
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Re: [Fink-users] ssh/ForwardX11/DISPLAY problem
On Sunday, November 3, 2002, at 04:38 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ssh -X -v -v -v ${mymachine} yields;
[skipped output not related to X11]
debug2: x11_get_proto /usr/X11R6/bin/xauth list :0 2/dev/null
debug1: Requesting X11 forwarding with authentication spoofing.
debug1: channel request 0: x11-req
debug1: channel request 0: shell
debug1: fd 3 setting TCP_NODELAY
debug2: callback done
debug1: channel 0: open confirm rwindow 0 rmax 32768
debug2: channel 0: rcvd adjust 131072
Last login: Sun Nov 3 15:31:35 2002 from adsl-157-133-20
Welcome to Darwin!
So it looks like it's trying to set up X11 forwarding, but the DISPLAY
variable remains unset.
I wonder if some parameter in the Jaguar network/sharing preferences
may be to blame. I can
remote log in, but the DISPLAY variable is still missing.
Looks exactly as here. Just to verify, you did delete any old .Xauth*
files on both client and server machines?
What I can think of: explicitly create a new .Xauthority on the client
machine with
'xauth generate :0', and add the following to the ~/.ssh/rc on the Mac:
if read proto cookie [ -n $DISPLAY ]; then
if [ `echo $DISPLAY | cut -c1-10` = 'localhost:' ]; then
# X11UseLocalhost=yes
/usr/X11R6/bin/xauth add unix:`echo $DISPLAY |
cut -c11-` $proto $cookie
else
# X11UseLocalhost=no
/usr/X11R6/bin/xauth add $DISPLAY $proto $cookie
fi
fi
(this helped me to get rid of authentication errors, though it's
probably just a slim hope in your case, as DISPLAY doesn't seem to be
set in the first place and there never is any authentication going on).
BTW, have you tried setting DISPLAY=localhost:10.0 manually and run an
X11 program?
Finally, I never got X11 forwarding to work with OS X's openssh daemon,
so you may want to make sure that it is actually /sw/sbin/sshd that's
running and nothing else. As a last diagnostic tool, you can start the
daemon manually with 'sudo /sw/sbin/sshd -ddd' and watch out for debug
messages on the server side.
HTH,
Derek
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Re: [Fink-users] ssh/ForwardX11/DISPLAY problem
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [] be to blame. I can remote log in, but the DISPLAY variable is still missing. Sorry for the stupid question, but nobody asked before: Are you sure that you did set DISPLAY in the window from which you are doing your ssh? -- Martin --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: ApacheCon, November 18-21 in Las Vegas (supported by COMDEX), the only Apache event to be fully supported by the ASF. http://www.apachecon.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
[Fink-users] ssh/ForwardX11/DISPLAY problem
I just upgraded my office machine to Jaguar and am no longer able to run X-apps from home due to X-forwarding problems. I've set ForwardX11 to yes in both /etc/ssh_config and (after installing openssh from fink) in /sw/etc/ssh/ssh_config. I've also tried logging in with ssh -X [EMAIL PROTECTED] However, echo $DISPLAY on my work machine gives the message: DISPLAY: undefined variable I'm stumped. And now I'm going back to the office to finish up some things. :-( --- This sf.net email is sponsored by: See the NEW Palm Tungsten T handheld. Power Color in a compact size! http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?palm0001en ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] ssh/ForwardX11/DISPLAY problem
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