Re: [Firebird-devel] 68K port

2011-10-24 Thread Damyan Ivanov
-=| Alex Peshkoff, 20.10.2011 16:40:04 +0400 |=-
  Hi, Dam!
 
 Can you comment something about this issue:
 http://tracker.firebirdsql.org/browse/CORE-3637
 
 Telling true I'm surprised. Why is that port needed at all?

No idea. People need different things :)

 May be there is a real park of old 68k machines? Wikipedia mentions 
 that 68k-based architecture based CPUs are used in embedded systems, 
 but apache+php+firebird - is not it too much for embedded device?

The server probably is too much, although you never know what people 
would want to do. Having the client seems like a plausible goal, 
though.

 We had that port in FB1, but later cleaned it up. And I see no 
 reasons to return to it.

I'd suggest to not put too much effort into that or any other port. 
Let people interested in the port submit patches. I hope at least 
there is an implementation ID that is available for use?

 Did not drop as Won't fix only because it came from Debian :)

Very generous from you. Thanks!

As I understand it, the request is from a Debian/m68k porter, who aims 
at reaching high availability ratio for the port in order to make it 
active again (m68k was officially deprecate when the security 
support for Debian 3.1 (the last release with m68k) was stopped in 
March 2008).

Since so many core packages need Firebird to build (php5, qt, mono), 
they are trying to make Firebird available in order to not stop port 
progress to greater archive coverage. The other possible approach is 
to stop the depending core packages build their Firebird functionality 
and move on, but this is somewhat last resort.

I hope this brings some background and makes intentions clearer.

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Re: [Firebird-devel] 68K port

2011-10-20 Thread marius adrian popa
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Alex Peshkoff peshk...@mail.ru wrote:
  Hi, Dam!

 Can you comment something about this issue:
 http://tracker.firebirdsql.org/browse/CORE-3637

 Telling true I'm surprised. Why is that port needed at all?
 May be there is a real park of old 68k machines? Wikipedia mentions that
 68k-based architecture based CPUs are used in embedded systems, but
 apache+php+firebird - is not it too much for embedded device? We had
 that port in FB1, but later cleaned it up. And I see no reasons to
 return to it. Did not drop as Won't fix only because it came from
 Debian :)
I follow the bugs and fixes for debian and seems that port got in a
compilable/bootable state at last :)
http://lists.debian.org/debian-68k/2011/10/msg2.html

I saw that ColdFire is still produced so this is what is the target
for the real world (debian embeded)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freescale_ColdFire

I will try to start the emulator and see how firebird  works on it

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