Re: [firebird-support] OT: Vote for Firebird as Database of the Year 2013 at LinuxQuestions

2014-02-05 Thread Alexey Kovyazin

Hi All,

I think more than 6000 people here should be more active in terms of 
Firebird visibility support - this poll received only 29 votes for Firebird.


Also, it would be nice to have more testimonials from Firebirders:
http://www.firebirdsql.org/en/testimonials/
(submit your testimonial in the end of the page - in any language).


Regards,
Alexey Kovyazin

Vote for Firebird as Database of the Year 2013 at LinuxQuestions 
(*must be registered user with at least one Linux related post*)


http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/2013-linuxquestions-org-members-choice-awards-109/database-of-the-year-4175488206/

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Re: [firebird-support] OT: Vote for Firebird as Database of the Year 2013 at LinuxQuestions

2014-02-05 Thread Lester Caine
Alexey Kovyazin wrote:
> I think more than 6000 people here should be more active in terms of Firebird
> visibility support - this poll received only 29 votes for Firebird.
I think these particular polls are getting a bit tired. There were a lot more 
votes in general last year - I think? From my point of view it shows the split 
in MySQL  nicely and I'd lump them together, so we are 'joint third' ... even 
with just 29 votes.

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Re: [firebird-support] OT: Vote for Firebird as Database of the Year 2013 at LinuxQuestions

2014-02-05 Thread Tim Ward
Not everyone here chose Firebird for their project because they thought 
it was the world's best database.

Probably rather more people had no choice at all, being assigned to a 
project that was already using Firebird. And the same will apply to any 
user community, of course.

-- 
Tim Ward



RE: [firebird-support] OT: Vote for Firebird as Database of the Year 2013 at LinuxQuestions

2014-02-05 Thread Maya Opperman
We chose Firebird ourselves, and love Firebird.

We use Windows though, not Linux, but we do have a few sites that have chosen 
to use a Linux server. Haven't voted on the poll, as we really have no Linux 
related question  to ask, so don't qualify to vote on that poll.

Have added a testimonial to the Firebird page now though ;-)



Re: [firebird-support] OT: Vote for Firebird as Database of the Year 2013 at LinuxQuestions

2014-02-05 Thread Alexey Kovyazin

Thank you, Maya!
Your testimonial is visible now.

Regards,
Alexey Kovyazin




We chose Firebird ourselves, and love Firebird.

We use Windows though, not Linux, but we do have a few sites that have 
chosen to use a Linux server. Haven't voted on the poll, as we really 
have no Linux related question to ask, so don't qualify to vote on 
that poll.


Have added a testimonial to the Firebird page now though ;-)






Re: [firebird-support] OT: Vote for Firebird as Database of the Year 2013 at LinuxQuestions

2014-02-05 Thread Carlos H. Cantu













Re: [firebird-support] OT: Vote for Firebird as Database of the Year 2013 at LinuxQuestions

2014-02-05 Thread Alexandre Benson Smith

That site sucks.

Last Year I registered to vote, I have tried  a lot of things and find 
no way to vote, Then someone told me I need to make a post (oh ! a 
really smart way to avoid robots :) ), so I made a post, no way to vote, 
one told me I need to wait some time to "refresh" the data, other said 
that I need to log off/log on, etc, etc, etc. so I gave up.


This year I entered the site, remembered that I need to make a post to 
vote, and just press the log off button.


Am I lazy ? Perhaps... But I really dislike that site, will not vote 
there, period.


And couldn't agree more that Firebird users lost his passion... Why ? I 
don't know...



Em 5/2/2014 10:39, Carlos H. Cantu escreveu:
Re: [firebird-support] OT: Vote for Firebird as Database of the Year 
2013 at LinuxQuestions


From my own experience with the number of votes in polls at 
firebidNews.org and firebase.com.br, I think people are "lazy" about 
voting.


This LinuxQuestions poll is even "worse" in such aspect, since not 
everyone uses FB on Linux, and even when they use, most people don't 
wanna waste 5 minutes registering to a site they will not use, just to 
be able to vote por FB. I would say that in the past, Firebird users 
were more passionate about the product. Unfortunately, this seems to 
not be true anymore (and I could list some possible reasons for that).


Carlos
Firebird Performance in Detail - http://videos.firebirddevelopersday.com
www.firebirdnews.org <http://www.firebirdnews.org>- 
www.FireBase.com.br <http://www.FireBase.com.br>






Hi All,

I think more than 6000 people here should be more active in terms of 
Firebird visibility support - this poll received only 29 votes for 
Firebird.


Also, it would be nice to have more testimonials from Firebirders:
http://www.firebirdsql.org/en/testimonials/
(submit your testimonial in the end of the page - in any language).


Regards,
Alexey Kovyazin


Vote for Firebird as Database of the Year 2013 at LinuxQuestions 
(*must be registered user with at least one Linux related post*)

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/2013-linuxquestions-org-members-choice-awards-109/database-of-the-year-4175488206/
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Re: [firebird-support] OT: Vote for Firebird as Database of the Year 2013 at LinuxQuestions

2014-02-05 Thread Paul Vinkenoog
Hello Carlos,

> This LinuxQuestions poll is even "worse" in such aspect, since not everyone 
> uses FB on Linux, and even when they use, most people don't wanna waste 5 
> minutes registering to a site they will not use, just to be able to vote por 
> FB. I would say that in the past, Firebird users were more passionate about 
> the product. Unfortunately, this seems to not be true anymore (and I could 
> list some possible reasons for that).

What are they, in your opinion? Maybe we should discuss this in 
Firebird-general. I, too, have the impression that we used to have more 
momentum in the past, but maybe that's just me: back then I had much more time, 
so I contributed more to Firebird, followed all the newsgroups, etc.


Cheers,
Paul Vinkenoog


Re: [firebird-support] OT: Vote for Firebird as Database of the Year 2013 at LinuxQuestions

2014-02-05 Thread Carlos H. Cantu
Paul,

IMHO, the major reason for the "decreasing passion" is the (too) long
periods of apparent "no activity" that we have between each FB
official release. People just get "bored". A new release coming out
creates a general "hype" making people excited, feeling that the
product is alive and moving forward, and making them curious about the
news. With a new release, people have new features to use and to talk
about, and the "heat" brings together passion and more action in the
forums, lists, sites (new articles being written/posted), tools, etc.

For the view of most users, who don't follow fb-devel, or do not
care about checking the SVN commits, etc, the Project is frozen since
the release of FB 2.5 (+3 years ago, yes - I'm not counting bugfixes
releases).

In a epoch where you get browsers (Chrome, Firefox, etc) getting major
releases several times a year, Delphi getting at last one major
release by year and so on, having to wait 4 years for a new major
release probably deviates people attention (and passion) to other things.

PS: I know our core-developers never stopped working, and that the
internal FB 3 changes are heavy and complex, but "standard" users
are not aware of this.

Btw, probably this went off-topic, so feel free to move the talk to
another list or to a private chat.

[]s
Carlos
Firebird Performance in Detail - http://videos.firebirddevelopersday.com
www.firebirdnews.org - www.FireBase.com.br

PV> Hello Carlos,

>> This LinuxQuestions poll is even "worse" in such aspect, since not everyone 
>> uses FB on Linux, and even when they use, most people don't wanna waste 5 
>> minutes registering to a site they will not use, just to be able to vote por 
>> FB. I would say that in the past, Firebird users were more passionate about 
>> the product. Unfortunately, this seems to not be true anymore (and I could 
>> list some possible reasons for that).

PV> What are they, in your opinion? Maybe we should discuss this in
PV> Firebird-general. I, too, have the impression that we used to have
PV> more momentum in the past, but maybe that's just me: back then I
PV> had much more time, so I contributed more to Firebird, followed all the 
newsgroups, etc.


PV> Cheers,
PV> Paul Vinkenoog



RE: [firebird-support] OT: Vote for Firebird as Database of the Year 2013 at LinuxQuestions

2014-02-05 Thread Maya Opperman
Nowadays, I'm very particular about what I sign up for. Once in a while I go 
through my gmail account (with about 800 unread mails at the moment) and 
unsubscribe from anything I haven't managed to read in the past year, no matter 
how much I really wanted to get to doing so.

If a poll does not let me sign in with Facebook/Twitter/LinkedIn/etc. I 
generally close my browser at that point.

These guys did a very neat poll recently for programming languages: 
http://code2013.herokuapp.com/?elq=44d2e43369514fa69a86c4ffef4bd2ed&elqCampaignId=1025

You post to twitter to vote, and they count the unique hashtags so the whole 
thing is very transparent.


RE: [firebird-support] OT: Vote for Firebird as Database of the Year 2013 at LinuxQuestions

2014-02-05 Thread Helen Borrie
At 07:01 p.m. 6/02/2014, Maya Opperman wrote:
>Nowadays, I'm very particular about what I sign up for. 

OK, time to move this topic to where it should have been from the start. (The 
"OT" tag shows that the original poster knew it, too.)

Please sign up to firebird-general - that's your general "chat" forum for 
topics non-technical.  You can sign up from your Yahoo home page or use the 
automatic subscribe link at http://www.firebirdsql.org/en/mailing-lists/

^heLen^
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