Re: [Fish-users] moving forward, what needs to be done (was: Axel (Was: Fish Shell adoption)

[Robert Shinka]

https://gitorious.org/fish-shell indicates that the website for fish is
fishshell.org, which should be changed to fishshell.com for the time being.

If development for fish is going to remain on gitorious, I'll update the
freshmeat project page to include that as well. 

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Re: [Fish-users] new logo prototypes try #2

[Patrick Mc(avery]

I like it.

What about adding a black stroke to the orange portion? Could this 
maintain the #! part a little more?
-Patrick



On 11-07-09 06:07 PM, Stestagg wrote:
> Random idea I had, needs to be done properly, but I wanted to share the idea
>
> On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 7:36 PM, Patrick Mc(avery
>   wrote:
>> How about this one?
>>
>> The coloured text hints at the syntax hightlighting and the cursor hints at
>> the tab completion
>>
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Re: [Fish-users] new logo prototypes try #2

[Stestagg]

Random idea I had, needs to be done properly, but I wanted to share the idea

On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 7:36 PM, Patrick Mc(avery
 wrote:
> How about this one?
>
> The coloured text hints at the syntax hightlighting and the cursor hints at
> the tab completion
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Re: [Fish-users] new logo prototypes try #2

[Patrick Mc(avery]

How about this one?

The coloured text hints at the syntax hightlighting and the cursor hints 
at the tab completion


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Re: [Fish-users] moving forward, what needs to be done

[SanskritFritz]

On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 10:11 AM, i...@whywouldwe.com wrote:

> An ascii art prompt would be very cool
>
> user@host:/dir/dir2 ><(*>
> user@host:/dir/dir2 ><~*>
> user@host:/dir/dir2 ><@*>
>

Cool it may be, just please don't make it default... ;-)
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Re: [Fish-users] new logo prototypes

[Patrick Mc(avery]

I completely agree about the diagonal lines. I just took a regular # and 
bent the horizontal lines. I could try to make the vertical ones 
straight but then I wonder if people will recognize it as a # sign 
altered. I'll try to think of something else.

This is the beauty of working with a group, many eyes looking for 
danger. In my industry there is a company called Analtech, they were 
trying to form this from Analytical tech but I guess there were not 
enough eyes watching that day :)

-Patrick

On 11-07-09 04:14 AM, i...@whywouldwe.com wrote:
> The diagonal lines make this logo look
> like something's crossed out and has a
> negative feel to me.
>
> I'm sure there are plenty of logo design
> offers on fiverr.com (I don't mind paying).
>
>
> On 09/07/2011 04:39, Patrick Mc(avery
> wrote:
>> I was thinking it might be neat to
>> cross a fish with the ~>  fish prompt
>> for a logo  but ~>  looks more like
>> something that might impregnate
>> someone so I thought about a cross
>> between (#! as in #!/usr/bin) and a
>> fish, not quite as relevant but
>> hopefully okay.
>>
>> I have attached a rough attempt.
>> Please don't hesitate to criticize it,
>> I am not a graphics designer by any
>> stretch of the imagination.
>>
>> -Patrick
>>
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Re: [Fish-users] moving forward, what needs to be done

[i...@whywouldwe.com]

An ascii art prompt would be very cool

user@host:/dir/dir2 ><(*>
user@host:/dir/dir2 ><~*>
user@host:/dir/dir2 ><@*>



On 09/07/2011 06:56, Philip Ganchev wrote:
> I am not opposed to a new logo, though I don't consider it important.
> There is no problem with someone having the trademark to the project's
> logo. If you do design a new logo, it might be cool to incorporate the
> Fish prompt, "~>", into it. Or you can use other ASCII art:
>
> <*)><
>
> <@><
>
> <*~><
>
> Cheers,
> Philip
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Patrick Mc(avery
>   wrote:
>> Hi Terin, hi List
>>
>> I am afraid I don't know enough ruby to help.
>>
>> If Axel is done with us should we create another fish logo? I doubt he
>> trademarked  fishshell but the fish shell logo is trademarked by default. I
>> can create one and mail thumbnail photos to the list? It might take some
>> time though. We should probably purge the project of liabilities, if not for
>> anything else, then for Terin's sake as he is hosting it.
>>
>> -Patrick
>>
>>
>> On 11-07-08 12:59 PM, Terin Stock wrote:
>>
>> It's a standard Linux stack. Right now the main site is static content. I'm
>> currently working on migrating to Redmine
>>
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>>
>> On Friday, July 8, 2011 at 7:43 AM, Patrick Mc(avery wrote:
>>
>> So I don't actually know who is in control of the mailing list? Is it
>> Terin? He is in control of fishshell.com right? What is fishshell.com
>> running on in terms of a framework or is it all static content? Is there
>> anyway to help Terin with the site? once we have a wiki again I would
>> like to contribute but setting up the wiki may or may not be that simple.
>>
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Re: [Fish-users] moving forward, what needs to be done

[i...@whywouldwe.com]

Moving to github is the obvious thing to 
do in order to attract new developers. 
If this is the chosen path the account 
username should be something like 
'fish-shell' and not contain any other 
projects so that it can easily be passed 
on to another person (at a later stage 
if necessary).


On 08/07/2011 21:49, Christopher Nilsson 
wrote:
> Heya Patrick,
>
> Nice to see the jolt of energy. :)  I 
> keep wanting to help with this project 
> as well (fish is cool), but time seems 
> to fight me.
>
> As well as the work on github, there's 
> also the codebase over at gitorious 
> (https://gitorious.org/fish-shell).  
> It has seen a bit of bugfix and 
> feature action from several people, so 
> it'd be a shame to lose that work.
>
> An "official" shift to github may be 
> beneficial, if it hasn't already 
> happened, since in my mind gitorious' 
> lack of an issue tracker is a 
> problem.  There's the bug tracker on 
> the sourceforge account, that also 
> hosts this mailing list.  But we don't 
> have the keys to that.  People can -- 
> and did -- lodge new bugs, but no-one 
> (I think) is able to 
> update/assign/close those bugs.  It 
> would probably help focus feature 
> requests as well...
>
> For the mailing list, we do have the 
> keys to that at least.  Over the 
> history of expiring domains, 
> spontaneously imploding websites, and 
> vanishing people, the mailing list has 
> been the constant. Kudos to 
> sourceforge and mailman for keeping 
> that ticking over...  Doesn't add to 
> this discussion, but I thought I'd put 
> that out there on the archive. :)
>
> tl;dr:
>
> * several folk on this list have the 
> keys to gitorious.org/fish-shell 
> , and 
> this mailing list, so access can be 
> arranged for those.
> * need a bug/issue tracker that we can 
> actually use.
>
> - Chris.
>
>
> On 8 July 2011 23:43, Patrick Mc(avery 
>  > 
> wrote:
>
> "" lets hack!"
>
> Indeed!
>
> So again I am the newbie and might
> not have things straight
>
> 1)fishshell.org
>  is expiring
> in September and presumably Axel
> won't renew
> but Terin Stock has volunteered to
> shoulder this
>
> 2)fishshell.com
>  is the
> interim site and has code mirrored
> from
> fishshell.org
>  before it
> reverted to "it works"
>
> 3)The wiki was partly lost in the
> transfer but Martin Bähr has a copy
> from August 2010
>
> 4)There is some development being
> done on github but the site does not
> currently point there
> Please correct false statements...
>
>
>
> So I don't actually know who is in
> control of the mailing list? Is it
> Terin? He is in control of
> fishshell.com
>  right? What
> is fishshell.com
> 
> running on in terms of a framework
> or is it all static content? Is there
> anyway to help Terin with the
> site? once we have a wiki again I
> would
> like to contribute but setting up
> the wiki may or may not be that
> simple.
>
> Attachments are usually frowned
> upon on mailing lists but this is a
> small one. What if I started a
> block level SVG diagram of code
> base and
> mailed it to the list? If people
> can install Inkscape then they could
> mail corrections back to the list.
> Eventually we could form a working
> diagram of the code base, would
> this not make it easier to get new
> developers?
>
> If the wiki is going to take
> sometime, could I start a Google
> doc and
> invite everyone to edit it and we
> could build up the knowledge base
> again? If I could get the old wiki
> from Aug/2010 then that would be good.
>
> Any other suggestions?
>
>
> P.S
> "and list want needs to be done"
> I meant "list what needs to be
> done" in my last post. As a native
> English speaker I have no defence
> for my poor spelling. It is the
> motivation behind my domain
> SpellingBeeWinnars.org, sorry
> about that
>
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Re: [Fish-users] new logo prototypes

[i...@whywouldwe.com]

The diagonal lines make this logo look 
like something's crossed out and has a 
negative feel to me.

I'm sure there are plenty of logo design 
offers on fiverr.com (I don't mind paying).


On 09/07/2011 04:39, Patrick Mc(avery 
wrote:
> I was thinking it might be neat to 
> cross a fish with the ~> fish prompt 
> for a logo  but ~> looks more like 
> something that might impregnate 
> someone so I thought about a cross 
> between (#! as in #!/usr/bin) and a 
> fish, not quite as relevant but 
> hopefully okay.
>
> I have attached a rough attempt. 
> Please don't hesitate to criticize it, 
> I am not a graphics designer by any 
> stretch of the imagination.
>
> -Patrick
>
>
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Re: [Fish-users] Axel on Github (Was: Fish Shell adoption / random comments)

[Martin Bähr]

On Fri, Jul 08, 2011 at 08:48:48AM -0400, Patrick Mc(avery wrote:
> Indeed genius does not always equal kind.

for the record, i do remember axel always being very kind and friendly
in his interactions. i'd rather attribute his silence to him maybe being
unsure what to say, or how to say goodbye, especially after being away
for so long. 
  
he didn't leave suddenly either. there were periods where he really was
busy with other things. and then he came back for a while. so when he
left again for a long time there was hope that he'd come back again.

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Re: [Fish-users] moving forward, what needs to be done

[David Frascone]

I think we should push a release.  And, possibly, bump the version to a
milestone of some kind to indicate the new "ownership"

There have been several minor nits fixed.  I need to document and/or fix a
few more that I've noticed, where fish gets confused and spews text at me
instead of completing properly :)

-Dave


On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Terin Stock  wrote:

>  Yeah, I'm probably fine being a mirror (fair use), but once we start to
> go forward, could be interesting.
>
> A new logo would be nice, signify a new future for the project. I would
> also, personally, like to see a new release from the "Fish Shell
> Maintainers" or something, to show that we're not a dead fish.
>
> Do we have any bug fixes we could put together for a minor release?
>
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> Undergraduate, Computer Science (CISE), University of Florida
>
> On Friday, July 8, 2011 at 1:33 PM, Patrick Mc(avery wrote:
>
>  Hi Terin, hi List
>
> I am afraid I don't know enough ruby to help.
>
> If Axel is done with us should we create another fish logo? I doubt he
> trademarked  fishshell but the fish shell logo is trademarked by default. I
> can create one and mail thumbnail photos to the list? It might take some
> time though. We should probably purge the project of liabilities, if not for
> anything else, then for Terin's sake as he is hosting it.
>
> -Patrick
>
>
> On 11-07-08 12:59 PM, Terin Stock wrote:
>
>  It's a standard Linux stack. Right now the main site is static content.
> I'm currently working on migrating to Redmine
>
> --
> #Terin Stock
> Undergraduate, Computer Science (CISE), University of Florida
>
>  On Friday, July 8, 2011 at 7:43 AM, Patrick Mc(avery wrote:
>
> So I don't actually know who is in control of the mailing list? Is it
> Terin? He is in control of fishshell.com right? What is fishshell.com
> running on in terms of a framework or is it all static content? Is there
> anyway to help Terin with the site? once we have a wiki again I would
> like to contribute but setting up the wiki may or may not be that simple.
>
>
>
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