Bright Yellow Fabric
This message is from: Cathy Koshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, this is from Cathy at Misty Meadows BB and Fjords in Victoria, BC Pamela wanted a bright, yellow fabric for visibility during hunting season. We have started making more and more of our horse blankets etc. as we can do a custom fit for fjords. - Look for a tent and awning store, they have every kind and color of nylon, cordura and reflective fabric etc. You'll be able to easily get yellow fabric for a vest etc. We've had to ride some on roads in near dark conditions in winter and now have everyone positively glowing with safety reflective bands. My latest project involves making fly masks that will actually stay on those wide muzzles and that will not be the usual toys that the babies love to pull off the mares. It was a real revelation to me that I could buy nylon mesh for 12 masks for the same price as one commercial flymask. Happy sewing!!
x-rated replies
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (BRIAN C JACOBSEN) Wouldn't it be great if everyone made their replies X-RATED? As Bill Coli suggested yesterday, when we are replying to a previous message, please include only a BARE minimum of the previous message. For me, it's HOT in my computer room, and I get STEAMY when I have to re-read all those messages. Even when I have something cold and WET to drink, I still get kind of WILD when I have to wade through all of yesterday's messages all over again. It's enough to drive a person CRAZY! : ) Seriously though, to allow a friend to keep reading the digest, I am having to break each day's messages into two parts and re-send them to her. The digest has become so large lately that she would have to save and view each day's worth as a text file in a word processing program just to read it. Of course I realize we are discussing alot at the moment. But it would help TREMENDOUSLY if, when we replied, we only included what was essential for others to know what we are replying to - a sentence or two, or a small paragraph at most, usually suffices. Remember that we just read the message you are replying to either that same day or just the day before, and we probably remember most of it. I am not suggesting that anyone limit what they write; Write to your heart's content. Just please limit what you copy from the message you are replying to. I do realize that the friend could receive the Fjord List in the regular form rather than the digest, but she has a reason for not wanting to. Thanks for your help! Brian Jacobsen Norwegian Fjordhest Ranch Salisbury, North Carolina ___ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]
smiling horses
This message is from: Mark and Ann Restad [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, Saskia In response to your question about smiling, I have to relate my favorite story of my nephew Tobin. When he was 2 1/2, I was excited to introduce him to our new gelding. Later I asked him, Did you like Dro/y? He said yes. I said, well, he liked you too Tobin said I know. He smiled at me! So it must be true! Ann in Alaska
Mike's comments, NFHR approved judges
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Information Architecture) Mike, thanks for responding to my note. I know that the geographical distribution of Fjords here is erratic right now, but think it's important that a structure be defined and regions set up so that, as the breed grows, it will have a clear way to grow and a structure within which to do so. All regions don't necessarily have to have shows right now, and, unfortunately, for the time being Brian Jacobsen will probably have to trailer a distance if he wants to compete against anyone but himself. But if there's a region set up in the Southeast, then when there are enough Fjords there, another non-affilliated group won't end up getting started with no structure, no BOD, etc. and the group will have a clear outlet for publicizing its existence in the newsletter, and it will have insurance when it wants to do a show. It's not the idea of the NFHR provided financial support for ribbons or anything, it's the structure and the professionalism that would be of use. And those are easier to put in place earlier than later. Second, concerning Evaluation Rules, I am well aware of those rules. I think that there are a good deal of problems and inconsistencies with them and have sent the Evaluations Committee a 3 page letter concerning that. I know that a snaffle bit on an older Western horse is clearly illegal per the rules, because Western uses AHSA rules and it's not legal there. And that's regardless of whether or not it's a green horse. However, lots else wasn't covered by those rules. Was the Baucher snaffle legal? People were complaining about it, but it is a dressage-legal bit. So is a French (3-piece) snaffle? Yet the Baucher is not excluded or included in Evaluation rules, the French snaffle is excluded because it says a 2-piece snaffle. The Western goes by AHSA rules, the English makes up its own rules and doesn't cover a lot of situations. Likewise the kicking strap on the driving horse. It got removed because someone complained but there is nothing wrong with it and, per my ADS technical rep. here, it would be allowed in ANY ADS competition. Furthermore, it is not mentioned at all in the Evaluation rules, one way or the other. That's why I think we need a rulebook, so we don't have the kind of bickering and complaining that we did at the Oregon Evaluation. Finally, someone asked about NHFR approved judges. First of all, what exactly is the point of having NFHR approved judges if we don't have NHFR approved shows? You don't have to be an NFHR approved judge to judge at Libby, Turlock, or anywhere else so why have them? Second, I am of the impression, per conversations with NFHR BOD members, that you don't really have to know much (anything) about our breed to be an NFHR approved judge. I believe the qualifications at the moment are 1) that you be a carded judge in at least one other breed (is that only AHSA approved breeds? I don't think so...), 2) that you have judged a major breed show (in another breed) in the last year or so, and 3) that you attend educational judging seminars at least once a year (I may have the frequency wrong). I showed a couple of years ago under a very good AHSA judge who was carded in our breed, but they had never judged Fjords before and I'm not certain that they had ever even SEEN one before. I know that the BOD is working on a judges handbook, but we don't even have a final breed standard yet, so how exactly can we have APPROVED judges? Thanks for listening. Becky Vorpagel Jont Creek Acres
Re: Mike May's comments, NFHR approved judges
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Information Architecture) Mike, Concerning your response to my comments re: regions, rulebooks, etc. I would just note, about Brian Jacobsen getting lonely, that I think the regions need to be set up now or soon, even though the geographical disribution of Fjords might now be uneven. There doesn't need to be a show in a particular region if it can't be financially justified, and there realistically couldn't be because there wouldn't be anyone to put it on (or Brian could put it on, enter it, and win everything--- hah!). But if the structure is set up ahead of time, then it is in place and there's somewhere to go when there are enough horses to justify a show. Otherwise, we'll end up with a lot of groups like the PNWFPG, Fjordings West, etc. that have a vague region they're covering and very different ideas of what they're doing. The reasons I see for NFHR control of shows is not financial in terms of helping the show, other than offering a blanket insurance policy, but more professionalism and consistency. Second, I am aware of the NFHR rules for the evaluations. Those rules clearly disallow a snaffle bit on an older horse shown Western, whether in a GREEN class or not. But, to my mind, those rules have a lot of holes and problems and I've written a 3-page letter to the Evaluation Committee concerning them -- for example, was the Baucher snaffle on one horse legal or not? why does Western use AHSA rules and English use no standard rules at all? was the kicking strap illegal -- I know you had to make a judgement call, and don't disagree with it, but my ADS technical rep out here says there's absolutely no problem with a kicking strap in any ADS competition and I didn't see a problem with one there. Nor was it specifically included or excluded or mentioned in the rules. Someone complained...I think if we had a rulebook, or had officially adopted a set of rules, we wouldn't have had that problem. Finally, someone asked about how we get NFHR approved judges. First of all, what exactly is the point of having NFHR approved judges if we don't have NFHR approved shows? There doesn't have to be an NFHR approved judge at a Fjord show. Second, it is my understanding that, at the moment, that approval doesn't mean much. It just means that they have been asked by the Registry if they wanted a Fjord judging card, that they have to be card by another breed, that they have to have judged a major breed show (not Fjord) recently, and that they have to attend equine/judging educational clinics in the last year or so. I know that the Board is working on a judging rulebook, but there isn't yet even an official, final breed standard and I am under the opinion that the judges don't need to know anything about our breed. I know that 2 years ago I showed under an NFHR approved judge who was a very good judge as AHSA type judges go, but had never judged Fjords before, nor am I positive that she had seen one in person before. Please correct me if I'm wrong here, but that's my understanding per a couple of BOD members. Thanks for listening. Becky Vorpagel Jont Creek Acres
Re: jValiant efforts
This message is from: john bolinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike May wrote: Sounds like a good idea. Who else wants to be on this committee? By the way, on the next Board meeting (The first one of the new NFHR year) the directors will be voting for officers and all of the present committee's will be reformed. If anyone wants to volunteer to be on any of them now is the time to raise your hands. I am especially interested in end-user incentive programs. Mike mentioned the Versatility Award and the Award of Excellence. I reviewed several past issues of the Herald and can't find mention of them. There needs to be better promotion of these programs and perhaps they need some expansion, review and updating. I really like some of Marsha Jo's ideas. Yeah I think we could use some more of them. Probably something for Non Show type of promotion. People getting out and having their horses in parades and different expo's should count for something to I think. The board would be wise to hurry up and put some of these people on committees who have volunteered or been rather vociferous during these discussions. How can they turn you down? Mike == Mike, I would certainly be happy to help out on whatever committees I could, but with limited Fjord experience I would need a lot of help to know how to help. If there is something I can do from home and get a Fjord education at the same time, I would be happy to try. Is there any kind of listing of skills/needs for whatever committees need help? Is there a list of committees that need help? Martie
Re: jValiant efforts
This message is from: Mike May [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 11:09 AM 9/26/98 -0700, you wrote: This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Could the NFHR publicize the fact that this list exists? More and more people have computers and internet access, but may not know about mail lists, and particularly not this one. They would have to know that there is a digest form so they wouldn't be overwhelmed, and the list might even have to be split somehow if the number of posts got out of hand. Just a thought. I believe it was in the last Herald.
Re: jValiant efforts
This message is from: Mike May [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 09:10 AM 9/26/98 -0500, you wrote: This message is from: Cynthia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Mike and Julie for your efforts as NFHR representatives to address all the concerns recently expressed on this list. Julie, your list of deeds by the board was the kind of update we all needed. Mike you have been holding the fort with all the great detail you have provided. No problem Cynthia One thought I would like to add is that though this list provides a great forum for discussion, we must remember that a great many members are not on this list and have not had the opportunity to participate. How do we involve them? A quarterly magazine may not be the best or most timely vehicle. I think we should have some sort of newsletter that provides a vehicle to discuss these issues more frequently with the membership. Hopefully, their involvement in this discussion would increase their participation. Many people through their discussion of these issues have volunteered time. I, for one, would be willing to serve on an education committee and promotion committee. Sounds like a good idea. Who else wants to be on this committee? By the way, on the next Board meeting (The first one of the new NFHR year) the directors will be voting for officers and all of the present committee's will be reformed. If anyone wants to volunteer to be on any of them now is the time to raise your hands. I am especially interested in end-user incentive programs. Mike mentioned the Versatility Award and the Award of Excellence. I reviewed several past issues of the Herald and can't find mention of them. There needs to be better promotion of these programs and perhaps they need some expansion, review and updating. I really like some of Marsha Jo's ideas. Yeah I think we could use some more of them. Probably something for Non Show type of promotion. People getting out and having their horses in parades and different expo's should count for something to I think. The board would be wise to hurry up and put some of these people on committees who have volunteered or been rather vociferous during these discussions. How can they turn you down? I couldn't agree more. Mike == Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Registrar Webster, NY, USA (Suburb of Rochester) Voice 716-872-4114 FAX 716-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ido :o)
This message is from: john bolinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alison Barr wrote: just a thought on that behaviour. I belong to pony club, and according to the manual, when they lean on you by putting their head down is called pig rooting. What a perfect name. Wach that habit. My old pony did that, but he could do it at the gallop. I t also involves rounding and stiffening of the back, and makes it VERY hard to ride. It (and bucking or grazing) can be solved by a rope tied to the bit, through the brow band, and tied to the saddle. it works sort of like a kind overcheck, but it is left in a loose position, just tight enough to keep the horse from getting his head downto buck or root. Often referred to as grazing reins. Alison, I drive with a side check to keep his head up and make the chance of his bucking a little less. He gets just a bit frisky when the weather is cooler or if he is in a foul mood. Not enough to be scary, but enough to need a loud hollar and a stiff pull. So far he has never 'bucked' (more like you said about rounding his back) more than a single time during an outing. Except for maybe the first 2 or 3 times I drove him to the cart with my instructor along. He had only done draft work before and I guess the lightweight cart made him think he was just out to play. His manners are getting better all the time but He grazes WITHOUT putting any weight on the reins! He just mows with maybe a slight hint of being behind the bit. When I drive, I can't really see his mouth. When I ride he has never tried to put his head down for food. It is too novel maybe for him to relax that much or get bored. He had not been ridden for 6 years before I purchased him and even now (since I bought the cart and harness), I only ride him when my quarter horse is not available (EPM). Because he has been a little bucky in harness, my cousin Vickie will not ride him unless he has a check rein/rope, but I haven't found it necessary so far. Martie and Kilar
Re: jValiant efforts
This message is from: Julia Will [EMAIL PROTECTED] Could the NFHR publicize the fact that this list exists? Page 32, Issue #47, Summer 1998 Herald, article by Steve and Cynthia with instructions on how to join.
Archives
This message is from: Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't think there is an archive of this list. If there was we would a lot more careful with our subject headings. Meredith Sessoms Soddy-Daisy, Tennessee, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Dorina ~ NFR Aagot .~:~. Fjords ~ Caper ~ Carly ~ Crickett .~:~. Labradors
Re: Trail Muzzle
This message is from: Marsha Jo Hannah [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where do O get one of these Trail Muzzles? Or did you make it yourself? It's something I put together, following instructions from an acquaintance on rec.eq. Let me dig around thru my old e-mail, and I'll send you a copy in a day or so. Marsha Jo HannahMurphy must have been a horseman-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] anything that can go wrong, will! 30 mi SSE of San Francisco, Calif. (Where it's raining today. Winter, already?!?) ---
Re: jValiant efforts
This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Could the NFHR publicize the fact that this list exists? More and more people have computers and internet access, but may not know about mail lists, and particularly not this one. They would have to know that there is a digest form so they wouldn't be overwhelmed, and the list might even have to be split somehow if the number of posts got out of hand. Just a thought. Gail At 09:10 AM 9/26/98 -0500, you wrote: This message is from: Cynthia [EMAIL PROTECTED] One thought I would like to add is that though this list provides a great forum for discussion, we must remember that a great many members are not on this list and have not had the opportunity to participate. Gail Russell Forestville CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Paula's fat Fjord
This message is from: Julia Will [EMAIL PROTECTED] You might have his thyroid function checked several times. Low thyroid levels can cause problems with fat. Check with your vet. In the archives of this list you will find further discussion of the thyroid question. Julie @ Old Hickory Farm
National Promotion
This message is from: Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Mike and whomever else can help: Horse and Rider have been including a Breed Spotlight in their monthly publications. NFHR could request/suggest they spotlight the Fjord Horse. We would need a write-up done by, hopefully, an approved evaluator and someone to volunteer their prize winning Fjord for the included photo. Check out the MFT in the October 1998 issue for the format. The Associate Publisher is David Ray @ 303-445-4709. Josie
Good article
This message is from: Evers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hope everyone gets to see the Article Amy Evers has written about the Evalueation at Eugene ,in the Small Farmers Journal , the fall issue. Some good pictures also.Dun Looking Fjords Tillie Amy Evers Worf ( The Velociweasel! ) Phebe ( Blossom Butt ) **Still missing our sweet Katie.** Here's Dookin' at You Kit! I Know you, so lets behave poorly together. LRM http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ridge/8589/ ***
[Addition to Common problem?]
I should add - he doesn't show any crestiness that might indicate a thyroid problem. He has been checked by the vet who expressed concern about getting some of the weight off. I have a question for the whole list. I would really appreciate the input here, because I am at a loss as to what to do next... I have a draft type Fjord, six years old and just a hair under 14h. His problem: he is FAT. I just don't know how else to adjust his more than a handful of Strategy -just to make him think he is not being left out when the others are fed their grain - and 2 flakes of hay a.m. and p.m. He is turned out all afternoon. I suggested putting him on the dry lot pasture because of his tendency to pork up. He is worked twice a day - I am a dressage enthusiast. He is worked once by the trainer in the morning and by myself at night, each time for about an hour...He has been on this program for months and hasn't lost an ounce! I worry about founder, of course. What else can I do to get the weight off of him...?
jValiant efforts
This message is from: Cynthia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Mike and Julie for your efforts as NFHR representatives to address all the concerns recently expressed on this list. Julie, your list of deeds by the board was the kind of update we all needed. Mike you have been holding the fort with all the great detail you have provided. I think all the thoughts and ideas that members of this list have provided are excellent. (More of mine were ready to go yesterday but I forgot to mail them and they will stay in the computer till I get to work on Monday when I delete them since they are now outdated). One thought I would like to add is that though this list provides a great forum for discussion, we must remember that a great many members are not on this list and have not had the opportunity to participate. How do we involve them? A quarterly magazine may not be the best or most timely vehicle. I think we should have some sort of newsletter that provides a vehicle to discuss these issues more frequently with the membership. Hopefully, their involvement in this discussion would increase their participation. Many people through their discussion of these issues have volunteered time. I, for one, would be willing to serve on an education committee and promotion committee. I am especially interested in end-user incentive programs. Mike mentioned the Versatility Award and the Award of Excellence. I reviewed several past issues of the Herald and can't find mention of them. There needs to be better promotion of these programs and perhaps they need some expansion, review and updating. I really like some of Marsha Jo's ideas. The board would be wise to hurry up and put some of these people on committees who have volunteered or been rather vociferous during these discussions. How can they turn you down? Cynthia Madden mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Omaha, Nebraska USA
Re: Program Suggestions
This message is from: Mike May [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 01:25 PM 9/25/98 +, you wrote: This message is from: Marsha Jo Hannah [EMAIL PROTECTED] The American Donkey and Mule Society has a variety of award programs. Don't laugh---there are a lot of similarities! Donkey owners tend to be first-time equine owners, and their animals are mostly pasture pets. ADMS is trying to encourage folks to take their animals out of the pasture, train them, then go DO things with them, as well as promoting the breed. (BTW, donkey owners also hear a lot of Aw, how cute---what is it good for? ;-) ) We already have the Award of Excellance and the Versatility Award programs. Neither of which seem to get a lot of people (or horses) joining them. The Excellance Award is acheived by collecting show points from the breed shows or other recognized shows. I think you need 100 points to win it. The Versatility Award is for showing in Riding, Driving draft classes and getting I think it is either a first or at least a second place in the class. I am just writting this from memory so I may not be exactly correct on the qualification but they programs are in place.They have been advertised in the Herald many times. There is a small fee to join them (it doesn't cover the cost of the award). If anyone wants more infor on these programs let me know I will put you in contact with the people that are running them. Mike == Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Registrar Webster, NY, USA (Suburb of Rochester) Voice 716-872-4114 FAX 716-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Board, evaluations, education
This message is from: Mike May [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 11:42 PM 9/25/98 -0400, you wrote: This message is from: Julia Will [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello all; This is Julie Will, the NFHR Board Vice President. First let me say that I am delighted to hear so much commentary on this mailing list...so many interested Fjord owners! We need interested, active owners to be involved in the growth of this breed! I have just been elected for my second term on the Board (thank you!) and can attest to the following: I have received direct input from members on issues the Board was dealing with perhaps twice in three years. However, since being on this mailing list, I have printed and forwarded to the appropriate persons all relevant comments on issues that the NFHR needs to consider. In the time I have been on the Board, we have: Great message Julie. Thanks for that rundown. It sounds like a lot of work when it is all put together like that. And IT WAS! Joel ~ yes, your situation was discussed by the Board. I am familier with it. Perhaps the Board member who had not heard about it was not on the Board at the time it was discussed. I decided to just ignore him this time. ;-) Thanks Mike
Re: shows
This message is from: Mike May [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 09:51 AM 9/25/98 -0500, you wrote: This message is from: Steve McIlree [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dave-- Friday, 25 September 1998, you wrote: This message is from: Dave McWethy [EMAIL PROTECTED] One question though. What criteria must a judge meet to become an approved Fjord judge? Are they provided with any standard for judging in-hand classes? Do they have a single set of rules for judging performance classes? If so may we all be privy to these rules, if not that is the one area of showing in which the registry should be concentrating some effort. I just sent a request for you to add Roger Cabic to the list. He is the Chairman of the Judges Committee. Please ask this question again after you add him. He will be glad to answer it. Mike == Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Registrar Webster, NY, USA (Suburb of Rochester) Voice 716-872-4114 FAX 716-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fjordhorse-digest V98 #186
This message is from: Mike May [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 09:23 AM 9/25/98 -0300, you wrote: This message is from: Arthur and Carol Rivoire [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Fjord Owners - From Carol Rivoire at Beaver Dam Farm in Nova Scotia. SERVICES THE NFHR COULD OFFER MEMBERS: 1. Membership incentive packages (including member decals) Roger Cabic I discussed this last year. We thought maybe a window decal instead of the membership cards would be nice. No one but the member ever sees the card. A decal on the side window of the car or truck might be a better way to go. SERVICES THE NFHR COULD OFFER NEW OWNERS/MEMBERS 1. A mentor program (not sure what Wayne had in mind -- perhaps its something done in other registries. Sounds like one of the Corporate Program of the Month programs. 2. A welcome to the Breed info package I think this is probably a good idea to develop. 3. Recognition in the Fjord Herald A nice touch too. 4. Introductory copy of the Herald A lot of people already get this. People that inquire about them get a copy. A lot of them end up joining EDUCATION PROGRAMS THE NFHR WOULD OFFER ALL PERSONS 1. Clinics and Seminars on Conformation Breed Type 2. Clinics on the preparation of the horse for in-hand breed classes. (I would suggest well-done videos on these topics) I would think the first 2 could be combined into one. 3. Clinics on initial handling safety, trailer loading, transporting. I don't see why this is any different for Fjords than any other breed. There are lots of videos on this already. Why reinvent the wheel? 4. Seminars on nutrition, feeding and feeds for the Fjord. (Again, well made videos would be more efficient at getting the informatiion out to people in all parts of the country.) Somehow a video of feeding doesn't sound all that thrilling to me. Perhaps a video on the Care, feeding, grooming of the Fjord. OTHER ACTIVITIES AND PROGRAMS THE NFHR COULD OFFER: 1. Sponsorship of regional promotion at horse fairs, field days, etc. This is already done on a request basis. It is a tough one to monitor though. Who do we give the money to? A breeder or a promotional group? If the group then they may not spend it in the area of the country you happen to live in. If the breeder then he/she most likely doesn't and they tend to promote themselves rather that the Registry or the breed. Mike == Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Registrar Webster, NY, USA (Suburb of Rochester) Voice 716-872-4114 FAX 716-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Promotion, tack
This message is from: Mike May [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 12:34 PM 9/24/98 -0600, you wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Information Architecture) I think that the idea of a video is excellent. I would love to see a PROFESSIONAL video showing off the Fjord Horse and its ability. Show Gayle Ware, Anne Appleby, Kit Davis or the Boes and their draft horses, Vivian Creigh and her advanced driving pair, the Jensens, there are a lot of people with extremely well trained horses out there. We have a lot of horses that are well trained and that can DO things -- show them. Show our good stallions. Show some scenes from the shows and evaluations, but don't let that drag on. The name of a company has been sent to me. I will contact them and see what kind of money we are talking about. This company specializes in Equine type videos. As some of you might know, I have a couple of Icelandic horses as well as the Fjords. The breeds are similarly (and often inaccurately) marketed and many buyers I've spoken with have looked at both breeds. But the marketing and promotional position of the Icelandics is SO MUCH BETTER than the Fjords. There are 6 or 7 videos out -- IN ENGLISH, PROFESSIONAL, 1 hour plus! There is a series of 5 books on the horses and breeders in Iceland, Becky, If you know can you tell me hom many Icelandic horses are registered? How many members do they have? Are their membership fees registration fees comparable to ours? How long have they been around? Don't get me wrong here I think the more promo stuff we have the better but I am just trying to get a feel for the size comparision. It seems like they have done a lot for sure. Did a lot of this stuff come from the US registry or from other sources? Mike == Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Registrar Webster, NY, USA (Suburb of Rochester) Voice 716-872-4114 FAX 716-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fjordhorse-digest V98 #185
This message is from: Mike May [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 01:09 PM 9/24/98 -0300, you wrote: This message is from: Arthur and Carol Rivoire [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi! This message is from Carol at Beaver Dam Farm, Nova Scotia. I have a couple of points to make regarding the discussion about the NFHR doing more to aid breeders and owners, ie - PROMOTION EDUCATION. I'd also like to add another goal to that list - PROTECTION of the breed. I guess your going to have to explain this a bit more Carol. I believe that right now PROTECTION of the breed IS already one of our Prime Directives so to speak. That is why we are the only Registry in North America that requires DNA typing of all horses except geldings now. A Parentage Verification is required before we will register a horse. Our new Breed Standard that took so long to write was due to the seemingly impossible task of writing it and not excluding any of they current types of Fjords we have. There are still a lot of people that are interested in the drafty type. There are also a lot interested in the finer riding type. We are determined to keep ALL of the kinds we have today. We don't want to be to overly influnced by what other countries are producing these days. Is there any good reason why forty or fifty thousand dollars should be sitting in the NFHR's bank account not doing anything for the horses, breeders, and owners? I wish somebody would answer that. That's all I'm going to say for now on that subject. Roger Cabic our Treasurer is going to be joining the list. He said he would be glad to address that issue Mike == Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Registrar Webster, NY, USA (Suburb of Rochester) Voice 716-872-4114 FAX 716-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Carol's Comments
This message is from: Mike May [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 03:07 PM 9/24/98 -0500, you wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sharon L. Falck) When we discussed new brochures for the NFHR there was always the concern about the cost. I gave them the name of our member who had printed ours and told them to contact him. To my knowledge the contact was never made. The only reason the contact has not been made is that we had so many printed that we still have some left. We are going to need to make a new one (or more than one) soon. I for sure will be contacting him soon. I didn't forget. Mike == Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Registrar Webster, NY, USA (Suburb of Rochester) Voice 716-872-4114 FAX 716-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Common problem?
This message is from: Paula Steinmetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have a question for the whole list. I would really appreciate the input here, because I am at a loss as to what to do next... I have a draft type Fjord, six years old and just a hair under 14h. His problem: he is FAT. I just don't know how else to adjust his diet...We are in a boarding situation. He gets a handful and it is no more than a handful of Strategy -just to make him think he is not being left out when the others are fed their grain - and 2 flakes of hay a.m. and p.m. He is turned out all afternoon. I suggested putting him on the dry lot pasture because of his tendency to pork up. He is worked twice a day - I am a dressage enthusiast. He is worked once by the trainer in the morning and by myself at night, each time for about an hour...He has been on this program for months and hasn't lost an ounce! I worry about founder, of course. What else can I do to get the weight off of him...?