Re: Purdy mare holes

1998-10-25 Thread BKFJORDS
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Hi Mike,
Going over my long list of 'list letters', I came across this letter and
remembered I meant to suggest you contact Nancy Lehnert for more information
on those Purdy mares.
Regards, Bernadine Karns



wood chewing...

1998-10-25 Thread Ingrid Ivic
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 But I
 see others of you already heading out the back door for the garden
 gleefully but semi-coherently, with a slightly glazed look to your eye
 and spittle coming out the corners of your mouth, snickering over and
 over so, you want to chew on wood do you?!

 Brian Jacobsen, DVM  : ^ )
 Norwegian Fjordhest Ranch
 Salisbury, North Carolina

Oh Brian...that was me!  Lovely description by the way.*BIG
GRIN*Seriously though, I was wondering when someone was going to
mention how bad it is for horses to chew wood. Since ours are turned out
nearly all the time, I haven't come across too much of a problem...just
those occaisional times they need to be kept in when they drive me
batty! I have found the Louisiana Hot Sauce works well for a short
time...then for some reason, they ignore it. Of all the breeds I've seen
so far, these little fjords are the worst for chewing wood. Could it be
they are so intelligent, they get bored much quicker? I think so...the
little darlins...Aaarrr!   Ingrid   ;o)



Re: Evaluation Score

1998-10-25 Thread Starfire Farm
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Ref. Mary Barnsness' question about score for qualification for
breeding: 

My experience with warmblood evaluations is that the evaluators will
recommend whether or not a horse should be use for breeding purposes
(which is the actual purpose of the evaluation in the first place.) 
They will also recommend, without actually naming a particular stallion,
to what type of stallion the mare should be bred.  This information is
very helpful to new mare owners who are interested in breeding and, if
it isn't already, be made a part of our fjord horse evaluations.   

Beth

Beth and Sandy of Starfire Farm
(back on the list after being 900 :-0 messages behind.



Re: Log pull

1998-10-25 Thread Starfire Farm
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Better make it a F(j)ord Truck!



Treatment For Navicular

1998-10-25 Thread Northhorse
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My farrier came here a bit late yesterday.  Seems he had spent some time with
a vet working on a navicular horse, that both the vet and the owner had wanted
to have put down.  He tried a new system of support.  Something like Digital
Equine System.  The horse went away sound.  This farrier has been around and
seen a lot, he was impressed.  I had a child with a cough to attend to in the
house, so I couldn't hang around and get the details, my husband helped him
with the horses.  But I was wondering if any of you had heard of this.  I'm
going to call him tomorrow and get more details.  He said there is a video
that explains the system.  Thank goodness, none of my horses are navicular,
but it sounds interesting for those horses who do have navicular.

Pamela



Re: fjordhorse-digest V98 #170

1998-10-25 Thread Starfire Farm
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I may be a little late on this one, but is an Electronic Lab a type of
dog for the '90's? :)  Are Electronic Fjords next?  (we already have
virtual fjords!)  Remote control required!

Beth



Re: fjordhorse-digest V98 #220

1998-10-25 Thread Mike May
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At 10:31 PM 10/24/98 -0300, you wrote:
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Arthur  Rivoire)




Hi Everybody from Carol Rivoire at Beaver Dam Farm in Nova Scotia.

A message to Mike May.  Mike, I've been repetive (to say the least.)  I
admit to nagging.  I may have annoyed some people in the process.  -
However, (squeaky wheel and all that) it did get people talking, and  good
suggestions surfaced.

Yes I will admit a lot of good discussion has come from the topics you have
brought up.  

Mike, you joked about the NFHR's taking 14 years to produce a standard.
You said Norway took 2,000 years to write theirs.  That's true!However,
they had the standard in their heads all the time.  Those men knew, when
looking at a Fjordhorse, if it was true to type or not. They'd learned at
their grandfather's knees how to judge a Fjord. A written standard was not
vital to them.  

That is why in the early days we had Jon Hegdal and his associates here
every year helping us.  Bob van Bon was also here many times teaching us.
When the Norwegian evaluations were going on it was required that a judge
from here was with them (so they could learn).  Many of the judges also
traveled to Norway for this same thing.  Wayne, Jim Havelhurst, Karen
Cabic, Mary Woolverton to name a few.  I know there were more than this
also.  The NFHR BOD decided that when our evaluation system was finally
developed that we would not use the Norwegian or Dutch systems any longer.
We need standards and that is the way they decided to have them.  One
evaluation system is enough for any one country I think.  I doubt that
Norway or the Netherlands will want to use ours either.

 We haven't had that heritage. Breeders produced, and American judges
judged all those years without benefit of a breed standard.  This wasn't
necessary.  We didn't have  to reinvent the wheel.  The NFHR could have
adopted the Dutch standards.  They existed in written form.   How simple it
would have been to hire a  translator.  ---  And if anybody says that Dutch
standards are different than  Norwegian standards, well it isn't so. Up
until recently, the Dutch went every year to Norway and bought some of
Norway's best stallions.  Stallions like Gjest and Solar.  Both of them
born and approved in Norway, and purchased by the Dutch Studbook.  

All water over the dam Carol.  The PRESENT BOD HAS adopted a Breed
Standard.  It IS approved and it is posted on the Internet for all to see.

This is all water under the bridge as we now  have a Breed Standard.  I'm
simply pointing out that if the NFHR didn't continually insist on doing
things in their own, unique way, we'd have had a standard fifteen years
ago. In the meantime, fifteen years of breed shows have come and gone.
Those shows  judged by Arab judges, Morgan judges, QH judges with no
written standard to go by.  They judged our Fjords as best they could, and
breeding decisons were made on the basis of their placings.   Think about it. 

Again more water over the dam or under the bridge.  Lets move on with it.
We can't change what has happen in the past.  Our present BOD is more than
willing to make changes and to move this organization into a real
professional Registry for the Fjord Horse in North America.

Through all my repetition and nagging, I've said the NFHR needs to get
cracking and begin to do things other registries do.---  A Rule Book, for
instance.  A Stud Bood, for another. Breed Promotion.  A  member's package.
 Proper Annual Meetings.  More communication from the board. The NFHR needs
to learn from others registries.  Not continually  reinvent the wheel.

All things that are going to be worked on.  The stud book for instance will
be produced early next year.  The new software that we are now in the
process of converting to is going to make it possible finally.

I talked to a breeder today who suggested  after each conference call, the
minutes  be mailed to members.  Great suggestion. They could also be put on
the NFHR's web page. Otherwise, we must wait to read it in the Herald, but
there's often a FOUR MONTH delay between conference calls and the
appearance of the herald.  Is this acceptable?  I'm not happy with it! 

Well, posting them on the home page is probably not a bad idea.  Storrs and
I just talked the other day about posting them here on the list.  We also
talked about putting the agenda here for discussion about a week before the
meeting.  So be looking for it soon.  As to mailing the minutes to every
member, I am sure you know how much time and effort that is since you have
purchased mailing labels from me in the past.  I just sent out the Stallion
Breeding reports to the Stallion owners last week.  It is a very time
consuming job to say the least.  It is also a fairly costly one.  With
postage at $0.32 it would cost $224.00 for the postage alone.  Add to that
the envelops, paper  labels and you are near the $$400 - 500 mark.  I
don't think it