Re: New Snow...Ho...Ho...Ho
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mary O. I'm jealous! We're just 3 hrs. so. of you and a mere smidgeon of snow is on the ground! Had to laugh at your Fjords roaming! Just last week, Doug had been working on the fence ( to add a board between the top and middle boards so that Major would stop rubbing his beautiful mane off) and he forgot to close the people gate. When we went out to put our 2 mares in the barn about 10, I looked out the front of our house only to see a horse wander by in the dark!! They had quickly found the nice sodded grass in our yard and were content to eat but I shudder at the thought of them out all night, had we not come out when we did! I usually don't worry when 1 gets out because they don't roam too far from the herd but when 2 are out -- they are a herd!! Susan from Minnesota where I finally broke down and got the winter coats out of the cedar closet!
Re: Palpation Mid-pregnancy
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (BRIAN C JACOBSEN) Ingrid Ivic asked: I was wondering how many breeders have their mares palpated, halfway through the mares pregnancies? We have a new vet and it's been recommended to have this done at our next Rhino vaccination visit. We've been told a few mares resorb their fetus or abort, some with no apparent signs. Is there any danger in this? It's true that occasionally a mare will either resorb or abort in early to mid-pregnancy, and when this occurs there's very little or nothing to see. When this happens to a mare, you need to do a few things differently. There's no need to continue the Rhino vaccinations. And you will need to feed your mare differently than if she were still pregnant. So two reasons to have a mare palpated at around 5 months are: 1. To avoid wasting money vaccinating her if it's not necessary, and 2. To avoid overfeeding if she's not pregnant. Every Spring and Summer we receive calls from clients saying their mares are a month overdue and can we come check them out to make sure everything is OK. Well, a mare can go a month overdue, so sometimes everything is fine and the owners just have to wait a little longer. But several times each year we will find that a mare is actually not pregnant, and hasn't been for a while! You might wonder if an owner couldn't tell the mare was not pregnant because the mare's belly was not big enough. I guarantee you though, if you have been feeding your mare as if she were pregnant for 11-12 months, she will look pregnant!! And what about those times the client saw the foal kicking inside the mare? That was gas in the intestines moving, not a foal. And finally, why do these mares look like they have bagged up? Well, they have bagged up, but it's with fat not milk. I believe it is safe to say that there will be a few Fjord owners this Spring and Summer that will be disappointed when their mare doesn't foal, because they just didn't, or didn't know to have her palpated in mid-pregnancy. So is something terrible going to happen if someone doesn't have their mare palpated? No. But just as described above, it would have been better for their pocketbook (unnecessary vaccinations and extra feed), and better for their mare's health (overweight from overfeeding) if they had known. And finally, with careful palpation, as most veterinarians practice, there is no danger to the fetus no matter when it's done during the pregnancy. Hope that helps! Brian Jacobsen, DVM Norwegian Fjordhest Ranch Salisbury, North Carolina ___ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]
Re: Palpation Mid-pregnancy
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, 18 Dec 1998, Ingrid Ivic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On a different note...I was wondering how many breeders have their mares palpated, halfway through the mares pregnancies? We have a new vet and it's been recommended to have this done at our next Rhino vaccination visit. We've been told a few mares resorb their fetus or abort, some with no apparent signs. Is there any danger in this? Thanks for any info...Ingrid Our vet recommended having the mare rechecked late fall. We decided against it, because we figured even if something happened to her pregnancy we wouldn't be re-breeding until spring. Might as well wait till spring and watch her belly grow! Barbara Lyn Lapp
Re: Wez tape
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jean gayle) there are two Jeans on the list. Could you tell me if you are referring to my taking videos or to the person who said they had videos? Jean Gayle This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Jean - this is Nancy - would love to have any tapes on Wez and would be happy to pay for the costs. Just tell me what you need. Many thanks - have a great holiday. Nancy Jean Gayle --- A Subscriber at Techline
Palpation Mid-pregnancy
This message is from: Ingrid Ivic [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all... I have enjoyed reading about all the fjord antics...from ringing the dinner bell to making alfalfa soup in their buckets. Makes me feel like I'm not the only one who has a whacky bunch of equines. ;o) On a different note...I was wondering how many breeders have their mares palpated, halfway through the mares pregnancies? We have a new vet and it's been recommended to have this done at our next Rhino vaccination visit. We've been told a few mares resorb their fetus or abort, some with no apparent signs. Is there any danger in this? Thanks for any info...Ingrid
MWFHC winter meeting
This message is from: Philis Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Fjord people, A voice in the snowy northern Minnesota wilderness (at last). Now I can take my Fjords out for a sleigh ride. We've had bare ground all of December; rare up here. I have a question about the Midwest Fjord Meeting in Galena, Illinois. Because of my job commitment, I cannot attend the meeting and learning(training) sessions that Wayne Hipsley will conduct. Would anybody video the sessions and have for sale such video? Profits possibly going to Wayne and,or MWFHC. If this is a possibility, please let me know. I have to play a concert in Duluth, MN with the DSS orchestra that week-end. My Fjords are happy for the new snow. They are rolling, digging, jumping, running and laying in the white stuff. True Norwegians of some sort!
Re: fjordhorse-digest V98 #282
This message is from: SUSAN L GIARGIARI [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Nancy! Great to hear from you! I will send you a copy of the Wez tape I have and also the EPSM info I got from Cornell University. Hello Ingvild, I went to your homepage and it was very neat to read the history of the Fjords you have written. I would tell everyone here to visit her page! Alot of great stuff. I got bounced out thru something I did but I will definitely check out the rest of it! I have a funny story to tell about Ragnar, who is owned by Catherine of Hestehaven. I worked for a woman who started a Dance Video business and a gentleman from Oslo, Norway wrote to request a catalog. It was a R year for foals names and we had this little stud colt who just had such a presence when he was born! We hadn't named him yet and the man who wanted to order some tapes was named Ragnar Spitzfadden and he was from Oslo, Norway! We decided this was a fitting name, not knowing at the time that it was also the name of the King or his son in the Vikings movie. We saw this movie for the first time when we were in the hotel room during the Libby, MT Fjord Show in 1996. Thanks to those of you who have sent me info on airfare to Norway! Is anyone on the list from the Midwest who would be interested in doing Equine Affaire in Columbus, Ohio on April 8,9,10, 11 (I think!) ? From experience on doing the Equine Affaire here in November , Dick and I would like to try to do this event. We wouldn't have to get a booth and stall in the breed pavilion as the Promotional Stalls are alot cheaper and everyone goes to them. We could have some youngsters as well as mares geldings and maybe put together a small Demo and these stalls are for each farm to promote themselves and we have the drapes to use to decorate the stalls. If we get one end stall and then how ever many stalls in the row, then a table can be put on the end with info and the end stall can be our promo booth. The Promo Stalls are $125 from 10 am April 7 until April 11, closing time. They like you to stay until closing so that the people who come to the Affaire only on the last day, get to see everything! The end stall would be $175 and all stalls include bedding (straw ) if you are a Breed Demo participant. The deadline to have your Farm Name in the Promo area in the Program is March 1, for payment stall forms. E-mail me privately for more info on this! We want to promote the foal raffle at this Affaire. None of the money from the raffle will be used for stall fees as these stalls are for you to promote your own farms as well as the breed. It is a good time to be had at these Expos and not having a booth that we need people to manage all the time will give us a lot more freedom (except for Demo times) to see all the horse stuff and get to the clinics! Only 6 more shopping days left! Happy Holidays! Sue G. who is Very :-( that we didn't win the foal in CA. Very :-) for the person who did win!
wooden Fjordings
This message is from: Cynthia_Madden/OAA/UNO/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Ingvild, for the pictures of the fjordings. These are exactly what I was talking about. For anyone else if you go to Ingvild's site, under postcards, look down under her commercial art section and the first picture there is the fjordings. http://home.sol.no/~snygaard/fjord.html I love some of the artwork you have collected for your site. You have done a very nice job. Merry Christmas and happy holidays to you also! Cynthia Madden Omaha, Nebraska USA E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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This message is from: Werner, Kristine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maureen - there is so much to write ... where to start ? Looking back on only one year of experience with my baby fjord (4 1/2 yrs.), I certainly would do alot of things differently. I think the main thing, though, is to take to slow. I thought in the beginning that everything had to go rush, rush - (I am always in a hurry) - my horse was very green and I wanted him trained and ready to go right away. That was wrong and a mistake. Training takes time, patience, energy ! Thank goodness my good-natured boy is forgiving. Also - don`t push issues. If he doesn`t like - or finds it difficult - to carry out certain chores - like longing - then leave it be for a while and try again later. If it doesn`t work, drop it. I insisted with Kai and that was just plain stupid. In other words - accentuate the positive and do alot of what he or she seems to excell at. That will be more fun for both of you and very rewarding in the end. One thing you should insist on, however, is politeness and teaching it to your horse. Be very consistent and you will save yourself alot of problems, the horse will be more content within himself and have loads more respect for you. Good luck ! Kristine in Frankfurt -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Freitag, 18. Dezember 1998 12:53 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: (no subject) This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am new to the list and to the Fjord horse. The different happenings and places things are happening, Alaska, Minnesota, etc., are wonderful to read. I was wondering though, if anyone could share advice on their first Fjord, indispensable tips, things in retrospect that would have been helpful to know, finding their Fjord, the beginning Keep writing! It is great to read. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!!! Maureen Rainy Long Island
Book from Norway
This message is from: Catherine Lassesen [EMAIL PROTECTED] The NEW BOOK from Norway is written in New Norsk and is titled: FJORDHESTEN - MENNESKEVENNEN written by Arve M. Bakken, Jon Hegdal, Helge Sunde It was just published in Norway. And is now available for purchase. There's a section as with the older book, that has fjords in other countries. Fjordhesten I Utlandet This is where, a photo of Gayle Ware Woodland's Dustin on page 168 are located. Harold Jacobsen, Nancy Clow, Anne Notes, a photo by Anne Appleby are also in this book. Again it is in New Norsk. And is available now at book stores in Norway. There's a big book store in Bergen by the ferry station, we may still have the address. But I bet if you ask, Ove natland with FHI would gather some copies and sent them. Or those going to Norway could send some home, in May. God Jul! Nu er det jul igjen! Merry Christmas! Now, it's Christmas again! Catherine L. HESTEHAVEN - The Horse Garden www.thehorsegarden.com
Fjord-success! (driving)
This message is from: Anneli Sundkvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi everybody! In the latest issue of RIDSPORT, the paper of the Swedish Equestrian Federation, I found an article about the European Championship in driving for cold-blooded horses, that has been held in Austria. The winner of the single class (or whatever it's called in English - one horse only) was a Fjord: the Swedish stallion PRIFFE 161 (by Frej 76) and he was driven on his way towards victory by his breeder and owner Karin Bondesson. I though it would be nice for all list-members to know that we now have a Fjordhorse who is European champion in driving. Apparantly, Fjords are classified as warm-blooded horses in some parts of the world, because Karin had to bring a paper, saying that Fjords are classified as cold-bloods in Sweden. CONGRATS, Karin (if you are on the list)! Well done! Regards, Anneli
Re: Wez tape
This message is from: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 03:36 PM 12/17/98 -0600, you wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] but I would like a copy of the EPSM info you have, Definelty no weight loss either! Thats what the vet always says - he's too fat! If I were you I would contact Dr. Valentine's at Cornell. She has done a lot of research on EPSM and is considered the authority on it. Send her an email with his symptoms. Just see what she thinks. She may have some ideas for you. Her email is: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Registrar Voice 716-872-4114 FAX 716-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: wooden carved fjords
This message is from: Mike May [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 11:37 PM 12/17/98 +0100, you wrote: This message is from: Ingvild [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is a reply to DeeAnna, Mike and Cynthias postings. As for the Henning carvings, I have a few pictures of them at my Fjordhorse page. Go to http://home.sol.no/~snygaard/fjord.html click postcards and other misc. stuff. Far down on the page the whole wedding prosession is pictured. There are also a picture of the wooden fjords. Yes the one Henning I have is the one just above and on the right of the wedding procession. Mine is the larger of the 2 in the picture. You have some great pictures on that page. I know I'm a bit early, but I will use this oppurtunity to wish everybody on the list a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, from Ingvild in a snowy/rainy Oslo. And to you too Ingvild from Webster, NY, USA where we finally had our first snow of the year yesterday last night. Still not much but the ground is covered anyway. Mike == Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Registrar Webster, NY, USA (Suburb of Rochester) Voice 716-872-4114 FAX 716-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am new to the list and to the Fjord horse. The different happenings and places things are happening, Alaska, Minnesota, etc., are wonderful to read. I was wondering though, if anyone could share advice on their first Fjord, indispensable tips, things in retrospect that would have been helpful to know, finding their Fjord, the beginning Keep writing! It is great to read. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!!! Maureen Rainy Long Island
Re: replies come before orig message
This message is from: Mike May [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 12:39 PM 12/17/98 -0800, you wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jean gayle) This message is from: Steve McIlree [EMAIL PROTECTED] Steve, I somehow got the message that you screen these communications. But can not quite imagine you with black fedora, dark glasses and a magnifying glass perusing our deep, anti-establishment epistles for some hidden meanings ie: she urinates every time I step out of the house at feeding time. Hm. Lets see. What possible ulterior meaning could be in that statement. Boy, I can't find it. So could this be a misconception :) Well I can tell you have never met Steve! Hm, now what does that mean??? ;-) Mike