Re: New Snow...Ho...Ho...Ho

1998-12-18 Thread Heyvaert
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Mary O.

I'm jealous!  We're just 3 hrs. so. of you and a mere smidgeon of snow is on
the ground!  Had to laugh  at your Fjords roaming! Just last week, Doug had
been working on the fence ( to add a board between the top and middle boards
so that Major would stop rubbing his beautiful mane off) and he forgot to
close the people gate.  When we went out to put our 2 mares in the barn about
10, I looked out the front of our house only to see a horse wander by in the
dark!!  They had quickly found the nice sodded grass in our yard and were
content to eat but I shudder at the thought of them out all night, had we not
come out when we did!  I usually don't worry when 1 gets out because they
don't roam too far from the herd but when 2 are out -- they are a herd!!

Susan  from Minnesota where I finally broke down and got the winter coats out
of the cedar closet!



Re: Palpation Mid-pregnancy

1998-12-18 Thread BRIAN C JACOBSEN
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Ingrid Ivic asked:

I was wondering how many breeders have their mares palpated, halfway
through the mares pregnancies? We have a new vet and it's been
recommended to have this done at our next Rhino vaccination visit.
We've been told a few mares resorb their fetus or abort, some with no
apparent signs. Is there any danger in this? 


It's true that occasionally a mare will either resorb or abort in early
to mid-pregnancy, and when this occurs there's very little or nothing to
see.  When this happens to a mare, you need to do a few things
differently.  There's no need to continue the Rhino vaccinations.  And
you will need to feed your mare differently than if she were still
pregnant.  So two reasons to have a mare palpated at around 5 months are:
 1.  To avoid wasting money vaccinating her if it's not necessary, and 2.
 To avoid overfeeding if she's not pregnant.

Every Spring and Summer we receive calls from clients saying their mares
are a month overdue and can we come check them out to make sure
everything is OK.  Well, a mare can go a month overdue, so sometimes
everything is fine and the owners just have to wait a little longer.  But
several times each year we will find that a mare is actually not
pregnant, and hasn't been for a while!  You might wonder if an owner
couldn't tell the mare was not pregnant because the mare's belly was not
big enough.  I guarantee you though, if you have been feeding your mare
as if she were pregnant for 11-12 months, she will look pregnant!!  And
what about those times the client saw the foal kicking inside the mare? 
That was gas in the intestines moving, not a foal.  And finally, why do
these mares look like they have bagged up?  Well, they have bagged up,
but it's with fat not milk.   I believe it is safe to say that there will
be a few Fjord owners this Spring and Summer that will be disappointed
when their mare doesn't foal, because they just didn't, or didn't know to
have her palpated in mid-pregnancy.

So is something terrible going to happen if someone doesn't have their
mare palpated?  No.  But just as described above, it would have been
better for their pocketbook (unnecessary vaccinations and extra feed),
and better for their mare's health (overweight from overfeeding) if they
had known.

And finally, with careful palpation, as most veterinarians practice,
there is no danger to the fetus no matter when it's done during the
pregnancy.

Hope that helps!

Brian Jacobsen, DVM
Norwegian Fjordhest Ranch
Salisbury, North Carolina

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Re: Palpation Mid-pregnancy

1998-12-18 Thread nlllapp
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On Fri, 18 Dec 1998, Ingrid Ivic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On a different note...I was wondering how many breeders have their
mares palpated, halfway through the mares pregnancies? We have a new vet
and it's been recommended to have this done at our next Rhino
vaccination visit. We've been told a few mares resorb their fetus or
abort, some with no apparent signs. Is there any danger in this? Thanks
for any info...Ingrid

Our vet recommended having the mare rechecked late fall. We decided against it, 
because we figured even if something happened to her pregnancy we wouldn't be 
re-breeding until spring. Might as well wait till spring and watch her belly 
grow!

Barbara Lyn Lapp



Re: Wez tape

1998-12-18 Thread jean gayle
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there are two Jeans on the list. Could you tell me if you are referring to
my taking videos or to the person who said they had videos?  Jean Gayle

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Hi Jean - this is Nancy - would love to have any tapes on Wez and would be
happy to pay for the costs. Just tell me what you need.  Many thanks - have
a great holiday. Nancy


Jean Gayle  --- A Subscriber at Techline 



Palpation Mid-pregnancy

1998-12-18 Thread Ingrid Ivic
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Hi all...
I have enjoyed reading about all the fjord antics...from ringing
the dinner bell to making alfalfa soup in their buckets. Makes me
feel like I'm not the only one who has a whacky bunch of equines.  ;o)
On a different note...I was wondering how many breeders have their
mares palpated, halfway through the mares pregnancies? We have a new vet
and it's been recommended to have this done at our next Rhino
vaccination visit. We've been told a few mares resorb their fetus or
abort, some with no apparent signs. Is there any danger in this? Thanks
for any info...Ingrid



MWFHC winter meeting

1998-12-18 Thread Philis Anderson
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Hello Fjord people,
A voice in the snowy northern Minnesota wilderness (at last).  Now I can
take my Fjords out for a sleigh ride.  We've had bare ground all of
December;  rare up here.
I have a question about the Midwest Fjord Meeting in Galena, Illinois.
Because of my job commitment, I cannot attend the meeting and
learning(training) sessions that Wayne Hipsley will conduct.  Would anybody
video the sessions and have for sale such video?  Profits possibly going to
Wayne and,or MWFHC.  If this is a possibility, please let me know.  I have
to play a concert in Duluth, MN with the DSS orchestra  that week-end.
My Fjords are happy for the new snow.  They are rolling, digging, jumping,
running and laying in the white stuff.  True Norwegians of some sort!



Re: fjordhorse-digest V98 #282

1998-12-18 Thread SUSAN L GIARGIARI
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Hi Nancy!
Great to hear from you! I will send you a copy of the Wez tape I have and
also the EPSM info I got from Cornell University.
Hello Ingvild, I went to your homepage and it was very neat to read the
history of the Fjords you have written. I would tell everyone here to visit
her page! Alot of great stuff. I got bounced out thru something I did but I
will definitely check out the rest of it! I have a funny story to tell about
Ragnar, who is owned by Catherine of Hestehaven. I worked for a woman who
started a Dance Video business and a gentleman from Oslo, Norway wrote to
request a catalog. It was a R year for foals names and we had this little
stud colt who just had such a presence when he was born! We hadn't named him
yet and the man who wanted to order some tapes was named Ragnar Spitzfadden
and he was from Oslo, Norway! We decided this was a fitting name, not
knowing at the time that it was also the name of the King or his son in the
Vikings movie. We saw this movie for the first time when we were in the
hotel room during the Libby, MT Fjord Show in 1996.
Thanks to those of you who have sent me info on airfare to Norway!
Is anyone on the list from the Midwest who would be interested in doing
Equine Affaire in Columbus, Ohio on April 8,9,10,  11 (I think!) ? From
experience on doing the Equine Affaire here in November , Dick and I would
like to  try to do this event. We wouldn't have to get a booth and stall in
the breed pavilion as the Promotional Stalls are alot cheaper and everyone
goes to them. We could have some youngsters as well as mares  geldings and
maybe put together a small Demo and these stalls are for each farm to
promote themselves and we have the drapes  to use to decorate the stalls. If
we get one end stall and then how ever many stalls in the row, then a table
can be put on the end with info and the end stall can be our promo booth.
The Promo Stalls are $125 from 10 am April 7 until April 11, closing time.
They like you to stay until closing so that the people who come to the
Affaire only on the last day, get to see everything! The end stall would be
$175 and all stalls include bedding (straw ) if you are a Breed Demo
participant.  The deadline to have your Farm Name in the Promo area in the
Program is March 1, for payment  stall forms.
E-mail me privately for more info on this! We want to promote the foal
raffle at this Affaire. None of the money from the raffle will be used for
stall fees as these stalls are for you to promote your own farms as well as
the breed. It is a good time to be had at these Expos and not having a booth
that we need people to manage all the time will give us a lot more freedom
(except for Demo times) to see all the horse stuff and get to the clinics!

Only 6 more shopping days left!   Happy Holidays!  Sue G. who is   Very
:-(  that we didn't win the foal in CA.

Very :-)  for the person who did win!



wooden Fjordings

1998-12-18 Thread Cynthia_Madden/OAA/UNO/UNEBR
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Thanks, Ingvild, for the pictures of the fjordings. These are exactly
what I was talking about. For anyone else if you go to Ingvild's site,
under postcards, look down under her commercial art section and the first
picture there is the fjordings.

http://home.sol.no/~snygaard/fjord.html

I love some of the artwork you have collected for your site. You have done
a very nice job. Merry Christmas and happy holidays to you also!

Cynthia Madden
Omaha, Nebraska USA
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RE: (no subject)

1998-12-18 Thread Werner, Kristine
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Maureen - 

there is so much to write ... where to start ? Looking back on only one
year of experience with
my baby fjord (4 1/2 yrs.), I certainly would do alot of things
differently. I think the main thing, though,
is to take to slow. I thought in the beginning that everything had to go
rush, rush - (I am always in a hurry) - 
my horse was very green and I wanted him trained and ready to go right
away. That was
wrong and a mistake. Training takes time, patience, energy ! Thank
goodness my good-natured boy is forgiving.

Also - don`t push issues. If he doesn`t like - or finds it difficult -
to carry out certain chores - like longing - 
then leave it be for a while and try again later. If it doesn`t work,
drop it. I insisted with Kai and that was just plain stupid.
In other words - accentuate the positive and do alot of what he or she
seems to excell at. That will be more
fun for both of you and very rewarding in the end.

One thing you should insist on, however, is politeness and teaching it
to your horse. Be very consistent and
you will save yourself alot of problems, the horse will be more content
within himself and have loads more respect for you.

Good luck !

Kristine in Frankfurt

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 I am new to the list and to the Fjord horse. The different happenings
 and
 places things are happening, Alaska, Minnesota, etc., are wonderful to
 read. 

 I was wondering though, if anyone could share advice on their first
 Fjord,
 indispensable tips, things in retrospect that would have been helpful
 to know,
 finding their Fjord, the beginning

 Keep writing! It is great to read. Any advice would be greatly
 appreciated!!!

 Maureen
 Rainy Long Island



Book from Norway

1998-12-18 Thread Catherine Lassesen
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The NEW BOOK from Norway is written in New Norsk and is
titled:
FJORDHESTEN - MENNESKEVENNEN
written by Arve M. Bakken, Jon Hegdal,  Helge Sunde

It was just published in Norway.  And is now available for purchase.

There's a section as with the older book, that has fjords in other
countries.  Fjordhesten I Utlandet  This is where, a photo of Gayle Ware 
Woodland's Dustin on page 168 are located.  Harold Jacobsen, Nancy Clow,
Anne Notes, a photo by Anne Appleby are also in this book.

Again it is in New Norsk. And is available now at book stores in Norway.
There's a big book store in Bergen by the ferry station, we may still have
the address.  But I bet if you ask, Ove natland with FHI would gather some
copies and sent them.  Or those going to Norway could send some home, in
May.

God Jul!  Nu er det jul igjen!

Merry Christmas! Now, it's Christmas again!

Catherine L.
HESTEHAVEN - The Horse Garden
www.thehorsegarden.com



Fjord-success! (driving)

1998-12-18 Thread Anneli Sundkvist
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Hi everybody!

In the latest issue of RIDSPORT, the paper of the Swedish Equestrian
Federation, I found an article about the European Championship in driving
for cold-blooded horses, that has been held in Austria. The winner of the
single class (or whatever it's called in English - one horse only) was a
Fjord: the Swedish stallion PRIFFE 161 (by Frej 76) and he was driven on
his way towards victory by his breeder and owner Karin Bondesson. 

I though it would be nice for all list-members to know that we now have a
Fjordhorse who is European champion in driving.

Apparantly, Fjords are classified as warm-blooded horses in some parts of
the world, because Karin had to bring a paper, saying that Fjords are
classified as cold-bloods in Sweden. 

CONGRATS, Karin (if you are on the list)! Well done!

Regards, Anneli



Re: Wez tape

1998-12-18 Thread Mike May, Registrar NFHR
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At 03:36 PM 12/17/98 -0600, you wrote:
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 but I would like a copy of the EPSM info you have,  Definelty no weight
loss either!  Thats what the vet always says - he's too fat! 

If I were you I would contact Dr. Valentine's at Cornell.  She has done a
lot of research on EPSM and is considered the authority on it.  Send her an
email with his symptoms.  Just see what she thinks.  She may have some
ideas for you.  

Her email is: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Mike


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Mike May, Registrar
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Re: wooden carved fjords

1998-12-18 Thread Mike May
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At 11:37 PM 12/17/98 +0100, you wrote:
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This is a reply to DeeAnna, Mike and Cynthias postings.

As for the Henning carvings, I have a few pictures of them at my
Fjordhorse page. Go to http://home.sol.no/~snygaard/fjord.html click
postcards and other misc. stuff. Far down on the page the whole
wedding prosession is pictured. There are also a picture of the wooden
fjords.

Yes the one Henning I have is the one just above and on the right of the
wedding procession.  Mine is the larger of the 2 in the picture.  You have
some great pictures on that page.

I know I'm a bit early, but I will use this oppurtunity to wish
everybody on the list a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, from
Ingvild in a snowy/rainy Oslo.

And to you too Ingvild from Webster, NY, USA where we finally had our first
snow of the year yesterday  last night.  Still not much but the ground is
covered anyway.

Mike


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Webster, NY, USA (Suburb of Rochester)
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(no subject)

1998-12-18 Thread MoPeyton
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I am new to the list and to the Fjord horse. The different happenings and
places things are happening, Alaska, Minnesota, etc., are wonderful to read. 

I was wondering though, if anyone could share advice on their first Fjord,
indispensable tips, things in retrospect that would have been helpful to know,
finding their Fjord, the beginning

Keep writing! It is great to read. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!!!

Maureen
Rainy Long Island



Re: replies come before orig message

1998-12-18 Thread Mike May
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At 12:39 PM 12/17/98 -0800, you wrote:
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jean gayle)

This message is from: Steve McIlree [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Steve, I somehow got the message that you screen these communications. But
can not quite imagine you with black fedora, dark glasses and a magnifying
glass perusing our deep, anti-establishment epistles for some hidden
meanings ie: she urinates every time I step out of the house at feeding
time.  Hm.  Lets see.  What possible ulterior meaning could be in that
statement.  Boy, I can't find it.  So could this be a misconception   :)


Well I can tell you have never met Steve!  Hm, now what does that mean???

;-)

Mike