Fjordhesten
This message is from: Mark and Ann Restad [EMAIL PROTECTED] thank you Catherine, I have been looking for this book! Now I can request it by author, so I think they will be able to find it. Tusen takk! Ann Restad
Re: Bounced Mail Palpating
This message is from: SUSAN L GIARGIARI [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello List!It's snowing!! Will turn to rain for awhile and then back to snow for the night! Sorry, Steve, I think I know what might have happened, when I type for some reason my computer will sign off the E-mail and then I'm not on line. I loose what ever I am typing and then can find it only in the Out box. I then somehow get it so I can type again, finish it and erase the Digest. I think maybe it is when it is saved to my Out box that it is saved in the HTLM format. I will check it out. Let me know if this letter comes through OK.(I had to leave this to finish later and finally figured out how to get to it so I can type more and delete what I have to! This should be ok!) We usually have our mares palpated at 3 months and then at 6 to 7 month to make sure we're not giving any grain to those that don't need it. The horses have a good quality hay, mineral blocks, and fresh water at all times and when we are not using them, this is all they get. I don't start graining the bred mares until they are 3 1/2 months away from delivery date. ( earliest date is included) So far we have had 2 mares that were diagnosed not bred by palpation and they were bred. Our mare Sunday is having her 6th foal and she never looks to the eye to be bred. They are the more middle to drafty Fjords and with there fuzzy coats it sure can fool you. She doesn't bag up until one month before dropping , where some of them start filling up the front belly part of their udder. I does take a good eye to see a foal move and then unless I have my hand on them , I don't always know if it was a foal. Now, Saskia, the 26 year old was palpated not to be bred. Of course, age and low slung uterus from age and carry foals, did not help during this palation. When I had the vet check her in the early spring to see where she was in her ovulation, he said oops! I've got my hand in somebodys mouth! I told him I hadn't rebred her and to add to the confusion , we had also done a iodine ? infusion to make her uterous more condusive to a pregnancy, and I never did breed her as Hilmar went to live at Ceacy's for training! The vet said Oh! Those stallions can be pretty trickey! But I reminded him that if Hilmar had gotten out of his paddock area, bred her , I doubted that he would have put himself back in the paddock!! I know these ponies are smart but..!! So, when he infused her she was 3 months bred, as we figured out which breeding she took on by her foaling date. I worried that it would have damaged the fetus or we might have a red stained baby! It didn't hurt anything and thus..Tobyn (which means-God is good!) was born 6 weeks later. Now , Saskia , because of her age was being feed a complete feed, Selenium E, oil, and unlimited hay water. I just adjusted her feed to include a marefoal pellet and things went along very nicely! I don't weigh grain until I've sold a horse and the person wants to know what and how much to feed. I've always just fed by eye and a constant feel of the backbones and ribs, in the fuzzy coat stage, looks can be deceiving! I also worm every 2 months and everyone gets taped and this is written on a card for the file. This really does help, even though the tapes aren't accurate, if you do it constantly, you have a starting point for catching weight loss or gain. Catherine, I'll call you today (Sunday) only 5 cents/minute !! Would love to be your roommate and I think Ceacy could be persuaded to go to so that will make the room cheaper , still! Bye for know! Sue G Where it is still snowing and I'm going to play with the new digital camera Dick and I got last night!! Combo X-mas, Birthday , Anniversary, other birthday and we're done for the year in 2 months time!
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, 18 Dec 1998, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering though, if anyone could share advice on their first Fjord, indispensable tips, things in retrospect that would have been helpful to know, finding their Fjord, the beginning What suprised me about our first Fjord, Viola, was her ability to look perfectly calm while acting pushy at the same time. I was so impressed by her big, gentle eyes, ears pricked forward, that I almost let her walk over me. She has learned beautifully in the eight months since her arrival. Getting to understand her and using some firmness was what it took. About finding the Fjord, we were just awfully lucky, I guess. My sister Hannah found Julia Will in the breeders directory provided by NFHR, and Julia walked us through all the rest of the learning we needed as new horse owners. A reputable breeder to work with is very important for newcomers to the breed, I think. You won't feel like a newcomer for very long. For me--eight months, two mares and two fillies later--uncertainty has disappeared. Though I still feel eager for new info on the breed, anytime. That won't go away. You're on the right track, starting with your quest for information. Best of luck. Barbara Lyn Lapp New York
Re: Palpation Mid-pregnancy
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sat, 19 Dec 1998, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (BRIAN C JACOBSEN) wrote: you will need to feed your mare differently than if she were still pregnant. So two reasons to have a mare palpated at around 5 months are: 1. To avoid wasting money vaccinating her if it's not necessary, and 2. To avoid overfeeding if she's not pregnant. Good to have your word on this, Doc. Barbara Lyn Lapp
Thanks Dr. Brian...
This message is from: Ingrid Ivic [EMAIL PROTECTED] So is something terrible going to happen if someone doesn't have their mare palpated? No. But just as described above, it would have been better for their pocketbook (unnecessary vaccinations and extra feed), and better for their mare's health (overweight from overfeeding) if they had known. And finally, with careful palpation, as most veterinarians practice, there is no danger to the fetus no matter when it's done during the pregnancy. Hope that helps! Brian Jacobsen, DVM Norwegian Fjordhest Ranch Salisbury, North Carolina Hello Dr. J. Thanks for being there to answer my questions...I appreciate the help. I like this new vet we have and trust his opinion. It's good to have his suggestions to me reinforced by what you said. He has a very good touch and attitude with the horses. He has yet to sedate the animals for any procedure...floating teeth, cleaning sheaths on the geldings, palpating the mares...etc. They've let him do anything so far, with not much grumbling. Unfortunately, our first vet (while a very nice person to take your dog or cat to) reached for the syringe automatically, to sedate for everything that needed to be done. Poor man was very uncomfortable with these large beasties! I do sympathize, but wish he would have just come right out and say he didn't like taking care of the horses, a bit earlier. The doggies and kitties still go to see him...he is good with them. It is interesting to see the differences in the way our 2 mares are carrying their foals. Both mares are quite the opposite of each other, as far as the physical look of them goes. One is taller, elegant, young and expecting her first baby. She hardly looks pregnant...just starting to have a healthy roundness about her, but not fat. The other is fairly short, older, strong and has had foals before. Now her, I worry about! She really looks pregnant. Being dominant over the young one, she goes after any food she can get. A challenge to keep her separate or give her less food. We've been successful so far, to not over do it with her food amounts. Let's just say we are maintaining her weight at this point. I have noticed both mares seemed to gain quickly for a period, then stayed the same for awhile...now we are picking up size again slowly. 4+ months to go! What a learning experience it's been, but a wonderful thing. Again, thanks for your help Dr.J...best regards, Ingrid In beautiful, snowy Ohio :o)
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Mike for helping me through it Merry Christmas from all of us... Vivian
