Feeding
This message is from: Wild Flower Fjord Farm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dear Fjord List, I would like some advise from all the horse owners around the world. This subject is not fjord related but horse related. I was wondering if I could get advice to feed a thoroughbred mare who has a hard time putting weight on. She is on vitamins and supplements and gets dewormed on a regular basis but the weight never sticks to her. I was wondering if anyone had any horses that they had to deal with like her. She is currently on Beat Pulp and grain and she eats almost a whole entire bale of hay per day. Is there anything else I could do to make her look more fat? Any advise would be greatly appreciated! Thank you Renée Lafleur
Re: Pinto Fjords
This message is from: Jen Timm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Anneli Sundkvist wrote: > > This message is from: Anneli Sundkvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hi Jen! > > What other odd variations/colours are you intrested in? I used to work on a > summer camp with +80 fjords 1984-90, so I have many photos. We had fjords > of all colours, some of them with undesirable white markings. No > 'skjevets', but I remember one mare (by the name of Ophelia) that had the > white ticking and small white spots you mentioned as a possible indicator > for the skjevet gene. > > My own fjord gelding Cider is a red dun. His maternal grandfather Gudbrand > was disqualified from breeding (by his owner, not the Fjord registry) > because he sired to many horses with white markings (several stars and one > horse with a blaze! Ofelia is by Gudbrand too). Cider's mother Mackie is a > red dun with a pretty larg (for a fjord that is) star. Cider have no white > marking, but nice stripes on his legs and also a stripe over the withers, > which is seldom seen on red duns. The stripe is very light, but clearly > visible when Cider's in his summer coat and now, since he had a full > body-clip a month ago. > > Let me know what colours you're intrested in and I'll check my photos! Anything you have would be most helpful to me! Even if you have photos of brown duns or good photos of the striping on the legs. Every time I paint the fjords, I try to get the color as close to life as possible. Actually, am looking for pics of gray and red duns - facial detail is helpful, as well as any distinguishing characteristics of the colors. I would also like to know how the gray, red, and pale duns vary in color. I've seen very light and very dark examples of the brown dun, but not the others... Thanks! Jen > Jennifer E. Timm < [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.wpi.edu/~jetimm [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.wpi.edu/~was [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwp.mirabilis.com/7813856 http://www.geocities.com/ResearchTriangle/Lab/3773/ BASF Bioresearch Corp, Worcester Biotech Park http://www.basf.com/about/subsidiaries/bio_research.html "That is the exploration that awaits you! Not mapping stars and studying nebula, but charting the unknown possibilities of existence." --Q to Picard in ST:TNG's "All Good Things"
Re: pinto Fjords
This message is from: Jen Timm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I do have to agree about keeping out fjord crossbred horses. I have seen photos of fjords crossed with quarter horses - and they weren't pretty! The color skjevet was bred out of the breed many many years ago, as far as I know. Don't know the chances of it resurfacing in the future, however. It has a distinctive pattern, so most likely if I saw a pinto "fjord" I could tell right away whether it was purebred/skjevet or not. I only have an interest in the color and other odd variations for artistic reasons. On model horses, it's always nice to be creative and create pieces that stand out in the crowd. For a model fjord I painted skjevet, I would only show it if I had proof the color existed (yes, we have shows for them!). Reference photos are always helpful for this, and to give me painting ideas. Customizing model fjords is my specialty! Fjords weren't always dun either, so fjords in the model show ring aren't aways dun like the modern ones...heck we even have quaggas (extinct zebra), extinct equus predicessors, etc. We even can make wild crosses! I've even created a Ze-fjord! They probably would never be bred in the real fjord world, but with models, anything goes! If any of you are interested further, please email me directly. I'd be happy to discuss this further! For models I have done, you can see my gallery - and the pony section is composed of (you guessed it) fjords! http://www.geocities.com/ResearchTriangle/Lab/3773/gallery.html TTYL, and for anyone with reference photos of unique colors and markings, please do send!! Would like to find nice color photos (detailed) of gray duns with close-ups of the dark mask on the face for a custom model fjord I am working on now... Thanks! Jen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Be forewarned that if anyone sees a "pinto Fjord" in this country (US) or > Canada, it is most likely not the "skevjet" (spelling?) that has been > discussed. There is a person in Alaska somewhere that is breeding with a > Fjord X Paint stallion (the result of breeding a Fjord Horse with a Paint > (Pinto)). He breeds to pony mares. He says he does not try to tell > anyone they are purebred, though some of them come out looking like they > could be. > Some of you are thinking "Big deal. Why get all excited about it?" > Here's the danger. Some breeds of horses and some individual horses of > whatever breed already look similar enough to a Fjord that most people > could not pick out a crossbred if it were to occur. One of the > crossbreds I saw was Fjord X Belgian, and believe me, many Fjord owners, > if they had been told it was just a big Fjord, would not have been able > to tell the difference. What was the give-away? The horse had a faint > blaze. I suppose the real danger is that horse being presented to > someone who had never seen a Fjord before. How could they know? Then > they start breeding that horse to purebred Fjords, and before long not > even the most astute Fjord judge could tell any other breed had been > mixed in there. But the damage would have been done. Other breeds don't > have as good feet and legs, as strong a constitution, as nice a > disposition, etc etc. Why would someone want to cross in the first > place? Probably for size more than anything. > > Or under a different scenario, if Fjord crossbreds started becoming > widespread, even without any attempt to claim they were purebred, many > people who might have purchased a real Fjord will be content to purchase > a crossbred for half the price. The value of the breed would be > irreparably damaged. > > So anyway, please never consider crossbreeding. > > Thanks for listening, > > Brian Jacobsen > > ___ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- > Jennifer E. Timm < [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.wpi.edu/~jetimm [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.wpi.edu/~was [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwp.mirabilis.com/7813856 http://www.geocities.com/ResearchTriangle/Lab/3773/ BASF Bioresearch Corp, Worcester Biotech Park http://www.basf.com/about/subsidiaries/bio_research.html "That is the exploration that awaits you! Not mapping stars and studying nebula, but charting the unknown possibilities of existence." --Q to Picard in ST:TNG's "All Good Things"
Hello all!
This message is from: "Laurie Pittman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello everyone, I'm new to the mailing list and just want to say hello. I agree with not crossbreeding the Fjord. I saw a picture of one in the Driving Digest a while back that was a fjord/hackney(and maybe welsh) cross. Think fjord body on hackney legs! Soundness problems just begging to happen. And I'm amazed at the attitude of that vet. I have a 4 1/2 year old Fjord gelding, Paradise's Tor, who has been quite a challenge. Someone forgot to tell him what fjords are supposed to be like, hehe. I'll have to tell some "Tor" stories for you sometime. I also have a 15 1/2 year old Quarter Horse, Copper, that I've owned since he was born. I drive both of my horses now. Mostly pleasure driving, but I have competed in one combined driving event with Copper, and I hope to with Tor this year or next, depending on how he's doing. If anyone is interested, I've been building a web site for my photos of Fjords, mine and lots of others from various competitions. Oh yeah, I think Copper got in there too. Please let me know what you think. If you like it, feel free to add a link to it from your own site, and let me know if you would like me to add a link to yours. The address is www.angelfire.com/wa/torshome Thanks, I hope you all enjoy the photos. I'm looking forward to hearing from fjord people. I'm glad I finally found this mailing list. Laurie Pittman
Re: pinto Fjords
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 08:44 PM 2/6/99 -0500, you wrote: >This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Be forewarned that if anyone sees a "pinto Fjord" in this country (US) or >Canada, it is most likely not the "skevjet" (spelling?) that has been >discussed. There is a person in Alaska somewhere that is breeding with a >Fjord X Paint stallion (the result of breeding a Fjord Horse with a Paint >(Pinto)). He breeds to pony mares. I know of this guy, runs a pony ride deal at the fairs (assuming he's the same one) Ponies are tied to a big "wheel", like a Merry-go-roound. A lot of pintos. He tried to get a Fjord mare from Jerry Friz, and also tried to get a breeding to Jerry's stallion when Jerry lived in the Palmer,Ak area. Jerry refused. (The guy reacted rather obnoxiously) A lot of people wanted to breed their "non fjord" mares to George Weaver's Stallion, Anvil's Rickolv, when George brought him up here and just can't seem to understand the concept of keeping the breed pure. Even my vet here can't understand why we want to keep the breed pure, says it's "egotistical" or something like that for the Registry to ban crossbreeding. He thinks we're trying to be an exclusive club, or something. He really likes the Fjords but doesn't want to pay the price for a purebred mare. He wanted to breed his percheron mare to the Brunner's stallion and got real irritated when Walt refused. >Some of you are thinking "Big deal. Why get all excited about it?" >Here's the danger. Some breeds of horses and some individual horses of >whatever breed already look similar enough to a Fjord that most people >could not pick out a crossbred if it were to occur. And then there is the lady of Norwegian descent who got a Fjord/quarterhorse cross out of Whitehorse, CA called a "Cherry Fjord" because of the reddish coat color. She claimed that it was good to cross the Fjord with a lighter breed because the purebreds were "too drafty" for riding sports like Dressage, jumping, etc., but then she let her horse get hugely obese. She was too stingy to pay the price of a purebred. She also wanted to breed her 1/2 Fjord to Walt Brunners Stallion. He again refused. she then crossed the "Cherry Fjord" with a dun Quarterhorse stallion, and now the owner of that horse INSISTS on calling the resulting 3/4 Quarterhorse-1/4 Fjord mare a "FJORD", while I always point out the maybe she should call it a QUARTERHORSE. But the Quarterhorse organization won't recognize a 3/4 quarterhorse so she insists on calling it a Fjord... >Or under a different scenario, if Fjord crossbreds started becoming >widespread, even without any attempt to claim they were purebred, many >people who might have purchased a real Fjord will be content to purchase >a crossbred for half the price. The value of the breed would be >irreparably damaged. > >So anyway, please never consider crossbreeding. I wholeheartedyly agree, even tho I have fantasized what something like a Freisian/Fjord cross would look like! Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, up to -25 degress today and the horses have been playing all day! >Thanks for listening, > >Brian Jacobsen > >___ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html >or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > > Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Height/weight/Age
This message is from: "Mark and Lisa K. McGinley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Our April 98 filly Asa is going through one of those gangly stages right now where her proportions seem all out of whack. I was wondering where the rest of the 1998 foals were at in regards to height and weight at what age. She has just shed quite a bit of the foal coat and looks rather sleek at 13 / 1 hands and 670 pounds (according to a tape) she is 10 months old. Mark McGinley Marioposa Washburn, WI
Re: Dutch Mares
This message is from: Lori Albrough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Lindsay&Jim Sweeney wrote: > ... I also > noticed in the latest issue of the Dutch Registry magazine there were some > incredible movers in the top rated group of mares and to my delight these > mares were uncomparably typey!! Large chests and bone and hooves and > hindends that don't quit and not too tall or too leggy or too long and thin > in the neck, no siree! these mares are the ultimate, any way can we get > some of those pictures scanned onto this list or the NFHR web site or do > they post them on the Dutch Web site? Hey Lindsay, if you're talking about the "Winternummer 1998" issue of "het fjordenpaard" -- I noticed those pics too, what do you think of that Toddy daughter Juultje? Wow, gorgeous trot or what? I will volunteer to scan and post photos - as long as we're not breaking any copyright laws. Lori Bluebird Lane Fjords Moorefield, Ontario, Canada
pinto Fjords
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Be forewarned that if anyone sees a "pinto Fjord" in this country (US) or Canada, it is most likely not the "skevjet" (spelling?) that has been discussed. There is a person in Alaska somewhere that is breeding with a Fjord X Paint stallion (the result of breeding a Fjord Horse with a Paint (Pinto)). He breeds to pony mares. He says he does not try to tell anyone they are purebred, though some of them come out looking like they could be. The man stopped to see me one day on a driving vacation from Alaska to Florida. He wanted to see what purebred Fjords looked like. He was looking to buy a purebred stallion. I wouldn't sell him one, and I hope no other Fjord owners will! Please lets keep this breed what it is - possibly the purest of any breed alive. There is no other horse breed quite so unique and special as Fjords with so rich a history. Sure, many of us have wondered in our daydreaming time what a Fjord crossed with some other breed would look like. I'll dispel the mystery for some of you since I have seen a few crossbreds over the years; They look mostly like Fjords but the size and coloring is not quite right. Lets take a lesson from the Norwegians who, in the past, added blood from a few other horse breeds (like the Dolehest). Look at what they still have today. Fjords. The other breeds were not an improvement. Some of you are thinking "Big deal. Why get all excited about it?" Here's the danger. Some breeds of horses and some individual horses of whatever breed already look similar enough to a Fjord that most people could not pick out a crossbred if it were to occur. One of the crossbreds I saw was Fjord X Belgian, and believe me, many Fjord owners, if they had been told it was just a big Fjord, would not have been able to tell the difference. What was the give-away? The horse had a faint blaze. I suppose the real danger is that horse being presented to someone who had never seen a Fjord before. How could they know? Then they start breeding that horse to purebred Fjords, and before long not even the most astute Fjord judge could tell any other breed had been mixed in there. But the damage would have been done. Other breeds don't have as good feet and legs, as strong a constitution, as nice a disposition, etc etc. Why would someone want to cross in the first place? Probably for size more than anything. Or under a different scenario, if Fjord crossbreds started becoming widespread, even without any attempt to claim they were purebred, many people who might have purchased a real Fjord will be content to purchase a crossbred for half the price. The value of the breed would be irreparably damaged. So anyway, please never consider crossbreeding. Thanks for listening, Brian Jacobsen ___ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]
Re: Captain Janeway
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ingrid, I would certainly send him pictures and articles about the fjord plus where and how much. Can not hurt. I have always found movie stars to live on attention but mostly on their timing. Have fun but do put the info in his mail box. Jean Gayle WWW.techline.com/~jgayle -Original Message- From: Ingrid Ivic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Fjordhorse List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Friday, February 05, 1999 3:51 PM Subject: Captain Janeway >This message is from: Ingrid Ivic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> BTW my mother is living in Garfield Hts. She has seen fjords in her travels >> and always reports to me how beautiful they are. Wonder if they're yours. >> >> Pamela >> > Hi Pamela...mine? A, how sweet of you to say! :o) >I DO have them out in front of the house during the spring and >summer months. They love being out front, on grass, soaking up the sun >and admirers! Can't tell you how many people stop to pet them or ask >questions. Great free advertising too, being on a well traveled road. >I'm hoping our (retiring) County Commissioner, Tim Hagan (a local >politician) will stop in one day too and possibly purchase a fjord or >two for his daughters. Mr. Hagan, who lives a block over from our farm, >has mentioned to the Cleveland Plain Dealer, that he will be shopping >for horses for his daughters. They just recently built a barn and put >up paddocks. >He will also soon be marrying "Captain Janeway" of the star ship >Enterprise...aka... the actress, Kate Mulgrew. I'd love an autograph >from her...being a die-hard trekkie! Guess I'll have to ride or drive >back and forth in front of their house...very slowly! Tee-hee-hee. >Think that'll go over big? ...No...didn't think so! Oh well, so much for >celebrity! >Ingrid...in mudfilled Ohio >
Re: Race & training
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 5/8th of a mile is one kilometer. Yes? Or so says my dictionary. Jean Gayle in storm after storm Washington -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Saturday, February 06, 1999 1:59 PM Subject: Re: Race & training >This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >In a message dated 2/6/99 11:42:38 Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] >writes: > ><< Unless it has been changed in the last 20 years , the track at Portland >Meadows is a 5/8th miles track with very tight turns. This is what attributed >Pamela >
Re: Race & training
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 2/6/99 11:42:38 Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Unless it has been changed in the last 20 years , the track at Portland Meadows is a 5/8th miles track with very tight turns. This is what attributed to the high numbers of breakdowns.The mile is run around three turns. They start in the middle of the backside. >> This is true. A mile is around 3 turns. And that indeed could have a bearing on the breakdowns. But I also heard the surface had concrete or some other hard surface just below. NOT verified. Just heard it several years ago. And the horses are used over and over again too. You just don't see this kind of work down at Santa Anita, or Hollywood Park, at least, not when I was there. Horses were given more time off between their races as a rule. You wouldn't BELIEVE how often the same horses are run here in Portland. I still think they are worked too damned hard here, for low purses and that's gotta be hard on their legs! Pamela
Fw: Rusten, Rocky, worms, etc
This message is from: "Knutsen Fjord Farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -Original Message- From: Knutsen Fjord Farm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Saturday, February 06, 1999 1:21 AM Subject: Rusten, Rocky, worms, etc >This message is from Peg, > >To - Mike May, thanks for the list of the first and second premies. You are >a seemingly endless source of useful information! > >To - Mary Thurman and Gene Bushnell, we, too, are expecting a Rusten baby >this May and are tremendously excited! So far, it's a feisty little >critter, starting to jump around inside mom when she eats or drinks. Baby >will be born in Ellensburg, central Washington, where the weather should >suit the herd [and us] better. We just signed a deal on our house and hope >to "sign around" the one in E-burg next week. It would be nice to know we >have a place to move to Gene, I'll convey your thanks to Chip for >keeping Teal next time I talk to him. > >Meanwhile, as long as we still have him, we will stand our young stallion, >KF Fjell [Rocky], for a couple of breedings this spring. He earned a Red >rating in the Eugene Evaluation last year at 15 months of age. His sire is >Norwegian import Ledijo and dam is Anvil's Silka [by Rudaren-also from >Norway]. He's very athletic, strong in the rear, and sweet tempered when >he's not having a testosterone attack. I'm quite interested to see if he >throws Grey foals, as Ledijo does, although he is a nicely marked brown >himself. He also ground drives well and is started with a cart. Email me >privately if interested. > >Rocky and sister Pepper will probably fuss on Sunday when Tinkerbell and I >take Silka to a 4-H judging clinic. Mell and Dean [he's the one trained by >Gayle Ware] Thomas invited us to join them with their Fjords, Tori and >Lar. It should be an interesting judging, as Silka is really out of shape. >The stiffness in her rear leg and back that she showed in Eugene are almost >gone now, thanks to massage, "wedgies", chiropractic, Glucosamine, TLC and >plain old good luck! Her top line is improved as well. Tink and I nearly >fainted the other day when Pepper was cavorting around and Silka did a >number of credible cavorts herself. We're not sure what came over her, but >she seems to be recovered and back to normal now. I reported this anomaly >to Doug, and he replied with amazement, "OUR Silka - are you sure?" > >Lindsey, I'm interested in both those books mentioned in the last Digest. >What do I have to do to get them? > >Finally, my sympathies to anyone who takes over an infested pasture! Our >vet was delighted at our good fortune here and in E-burg. Also, I don't >recall whether I've promoted the parasitic wasps on the Digest. They really >cut down the fly population! Equus has an ad for them. > >Time to go now and get ready for the Ellensburg invasion! Cheers to all - >Peg Knutsen > >
Re: Race & training
This message is from: Cheryl Olson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Unless it has been changed in the last 20 years , the track at Portland Meadows is a 5/8th miles track with very tight turns. This is what attributed to the high numbers of breakdowns.The mile is run around three turns. They start in the middle of the backside. Cheryl Olson , WI [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > In a message dated 2/3/99 7:35:05 Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > writes: > > << We can get the race track during off season. There's another track in > Portland. Do not know much about that one. >> > > >From what I remember from days when I owned a TB, the track is a really lousy > surface, with the percentage of horses breaking down on the high side. Of > course, it could be that the same horses are raced over and over again, > without as much time off as at other tracks. Still, I remember hearing the > surface was awful > > Pamela
Evaluation result
This message is from: Ursula Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mike.thanks for printing the North American Eval. Results. Brian and I feel that this kind of Info is very helpful and should be published often and everywhere. How about putting it on the website. I get numerous inquiries about Fjord info and since you started the web site I have had a great 'out' and just refer inquiries to you. It is helpful for us as breeders to have the support of the Registry in promoting quality animals and publishing results in the Herald as well as the web site would be one way.It may also warrant that a handout could be printed for people who are looking for quality stock. The Education committee has a big job and this type of service could be made avaiable thru them. I'm also thinking of some of Brian Jacobsen's articles on feeding and founder etc. Just a thought. Ursula |---| | Ursula & Brian Jensen from Trinity Fjords | | E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bearbells
This message is from: Cheryl Olson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cheryl Olson here in Seneca WI: When I was living in Kaslo B.C.Canada back in the early seventies we had daily visits from the resident Black Bear. The horses were kept in a rail paddock and our Huskie dogs were chained to there dog houses. We all lived happily with out any problems, the dogs never even barked when they would come in the yard, since they were used to them. One day we had a cougar come to the pond , next to the barn for a drink. I hear that with the increase in human population and the smaller native environment that they are having problems with the cayote and bear feasting on domestic dogs and cats in the area. It is sad to see this change. Sunny 40's ...gives us the spring fever, let's go for a ride feeling! ha nogha wrote: > This message is from: misha nogha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Loved the 'joke' about the bear dung. Could always use a little humor. We > have a resident black bear here that terrorizes me and the horses. I > sometimes take in raptors for Fish and Game and so asked them to look into > our little bear problem. They said, "Misha, just go on up there in the > trees tonight with a flashlight and yell at him--he'll run off." I said, > "Are we talking about the same animal because the one I mean has big nasty > teeth and claws and weighs about 300 pounds." Lots of scat but no > flashlights in it. Misha
calories
This message is from: "Dave McWethy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I saw this line on the CD-L, from Becky at Dartmoor Carriages, about her Dartmoor ponies. I thought it might sound familiar: "Dartmoors will nibble anything that might have a calorie in it somewhere"
Fjords, parasites, and emus
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello everyone! The last few posts concerning Fjords on the worm infested property really has me worried about the farm we are purchasing. It is currently being run as an emu farm, and they also have a small fallow deer herd. While they used to have over 100 birds, they are now down to about 20-30, I believe, and have 9 deer. These people keep their animals and pens clean, but I do know they spread the emu droppings throughout the property. Does anyone know if emus or deer carry parasites dangerous to horses? If so, is there any preventive things I could have done before we actually move there? When we arrive and pick up the horses, I do plan on contacting a vet, but I do no have one in that area as of this point in time. Any comments are appreciated. Lynda, temporarily from Texas.
Northeast Fjord Show
This message is from: Gregor Fellers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Does anyone know if the dates for the 1999 Northeast Fjord Show in Woodstock VT have been selected? I need to ask for leave time ASAP.
Fjord on worm-infested property
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jean Ernst wrote: "Regarding the story about the blood worms and the worm infested horse farm, I would think it might be wise to put them on the Daiy Strongid wormer after worming with Ivermectin and keep them on the daiy wormer to avoid them picking up a heavy infestation. What do you think Brian? " That is an excellent suggestion. The daily wormer kills worm larvae shortly after the horse ingests them and before they have a chance to reproduce or migrate out of the intestinal tract and cause tissue damage. The reminder to deworm first with an Ivermectin product (or Quest) is important too for two reasons: 1. Strongid does not kill bots but Ivermectin products (Zimectrin, Equimectrin, Eqvalan, Rotectin 1, etc) and Moxidectin products (Quest) do, and 2. The Strongid daily wormer is given at a very low dose which is only strong enough to kill newly ingested parasites, not ones already in the horse's system. Other important/beneficial practices in this situation would be: -feed everything in feeders, not off the ground -plow the whole 4 acres under and replant. This would bury many of the worm eggs, eventually killing them. -if plowing it under is not a possibility, consider raking up all possible manure and a) letting it sit idle for one or more years which would give many worm eggs a chance to hatch and die, or b) use it for hay instead of grazing. Worm larvae would not survive for long in hay (a few weeks max). -let 2-3 cows or a small herd of goats graze it for one or two years. The worms that bother horses for the most part do not bother ruminants, yet the ruminantswill still ingest the worm larvae and effectively remove them from the pasture. Also, the worm eggs that the ruminants might leave for the most part do not bother horses. One more plus is that the ruminants will eat the grass in thehorse's bathroom areas ( called "roughs", whereas the areas the horsesgraze are called "lawns") that the horses will not eat. -scrape off the top 4-5 inches of soil and sell it for wonderful topsoil. Yes this would remove valuable topsoil, but it would also get rid of many dangerous worm eggs. Incidently, Strongid C is now available in "generic" at reduced prices. I'm not familiar with their names yet. Have seen them in some mail-order horse catalogs. Brian Jacobsen, DVM Norwegian Fjordhest Ranch Salisbury, North Carolina ___ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]
Re: Pinto Fjords
This message is from: Anneli Sundkvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Jen! What other odd variations/colours are you intrested in? I used to work on a summer camp with +80 fjords 1984-90, so I have many photos. We had fjords of all colours, some of them with undesirable white markings. No 'skjevets', but I remember one mare (by the name of Ophelia) that had the white ticking and small white spots you mentioned as a possible indicator for the skjevet gene. My own fjord gelding Cider is a red dun. His maternal grandfather Gudbrand was disqualified from breeding (by his owner, not the Fjord registry) because he sired to many horses with white markings (several stars and one horse with a blaze! Ofelia is by Gudbrand too). Cider's mother Mackie is a red dun with a pretty larg (for a fjord that is) star. Cider have no white marking, but nice stripes on his legs and also a stripe over the withers, which is seldom seen on red duns. The stripe is very light, but clearly visible when Cider's in his summer coat and now, since he had a full body-clip a month ago. Let me know what colours you're intrested in and I'll check my photos! Regards from Anneli in Sweden
Re: motherly love
This message is from: partoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> This reminds me of a Fjord mare here in Finland: last year after her and her grown-up daughter's foals had been weaned and the herd had been let out together again, this older mare started taking care of both her own foal and her grandson allowing them to suckle. Apparently one month of weaning wasn't enough in this case... Have a good weekend, all. Sini. EMAIL ADDRESS [EMAIL PROTECTED] HOME PAGE AT http://www.saunalahti.fi/~partoy/Juhola6.html
