Re: Salt/Mineral Blocks

2000-08-04 Thread whitedvm
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It's a very good idea to first check with your vet before using anything
(especially feed related items) that is labeled for cattle.  Lots of
cattle products have growth promotants in them that are deadly to horses.

The mineral blocks for cattle are toxic to sheep.  Too much copper.  I
don't believe that an adult horse would consume enough of the block to
make a difference, but I would watch out for a weanling or yearling.  I
did one time see a horse that would actually eat the blocks, not just
lick them.  In that case I think it would have been toxic if it was
allowed to continue.

Steve White
Waterloo, Nebraska



Re: Panic snaps & other stuff

2000-08-04 Thread whitedvm
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> However, I can 
> promise
> you a busy and lucrative practice with, as I said, relief shifts 
> from your
> fellow Vets. 


That is probably more enticing than scenery or any other fringe benefit. 
I just started my own practice about two years ago after working with
someone for six years.  While I don't regret going solo, it is
frustrating having to be on call 24hrs/day, seven days a week.  It's a
little competitive around here, so it can be hard to find someone to take
calls for me.  

Steve



Re: Cribbing

2000-08-04 Thread Jean Ernest
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Betty, is he really cribbingGrabbing on the board with his teeth and
then sucking in air?  Or is he just chewing wood?  At that age they are
teething...losing the middle two front incisors with the new permanent ones
coming in and seem to need to chew on stuff.  I have given nime green Aspen
saplings to chew on.  Does he have pasture to chew on? just a thought. I
don't think the collar would stop them from chewing wood, but the "no Chew"
sprays, etc. might.

  I heard There is something called "Dycosote" which works pretty good.
(Sort of replaced creosote)

Jean in Fairbanks, where the Rain HAS started for the first day of the Fair
afterall. Over 60 entrys in the Dressage show, can you believe it?

>
>Does anyone have any advice for a cribber? I have purchased a cribbing
>collar and that spray that is supposed to taste yukky and a ball. (to keep
>the boredom away) I hate to say this but it is the new little Fjord we
>bought. 

Jean Ernest
Fairbanks, Alaska
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Re: Recruiting my vet

2000-08-04 Thread Northhorse
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In a message dated 8/4/00 7:38:48 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
Cynthia_Madden/OAA/UNO/[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< And... if they have to move somewhere they can go with me to the
 land of enchantment, New Mexico, where horses need a decent and caring vet 
more
 than your locations!  >>

Actually, there's a great vet in New Mexico that I'd like to come up here to 
Oregon!!!  Depending on what area you are in.  We lived in Peralta, near Las 
Lunas, Bosque Farms.  Dr. Kosper is just great.  Drove all the way to Ginny 
Cowles (on his own time) to inspect Juniper for me.  When we went to France 
for a couple weeks, he trailered our horses for us to suitable temporary 
housing.  He is a wonderful large animal, small animal vet.  When he'd come 
to vaccinate, worm the horses, he's also take care of our dogs and cats too.  
If you are going to be anywhere in his area, I'd highly recommend him.  I 
wish we had somebody like him in Oregon!  

Pamela



Re: visitors...

2000-08-04 Thread Northhorse
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In a message dated 8/4/00 10:47:17 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< Hi Pam,
Heh-heh-hehcould be! Garfield Heights isn't too too far 
awayIngrid  :o)>>

I thought it must be you!  BTW, don't be too surprised if I end up being one 
of your neighbors in the next couple of years.  I've got lots of family in 
that area, to help watch over my son, in the event anything happens to me.  
It "looks" like property values are going to go sky high where I'm living 
now, if it does what I think it will, we're going to take the money and run, 
and buy a nice little horse property in Ohio.  Stay tuned

Pamela



Re: weight

2000-08-04 Thread GailDorine
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In a message dated 8/4/00 7:23:18 AM Mountain Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< Couldn't be connected to age and weight? My goodness, No! Not me! LOL >>
I'm not fat, I'm short.  I was supposed to be 16 feet tall.
  Gail



All the web

2000-08-04 Thread misha nogha
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Hey Mike!!! Thanks so much for the new search engine info. I like it VERY
MUCH. I am tired of those millions of ads clicking through the other guys
to make loading the home page a hassle and plus most of the negines hardly
have ANYTHING on the topics I typed in on All the Web.

Best

Misha




Re: Cribbing

2000-08-04 Thread Betty Quinlan
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Hi,

Does anyone have any advice for a cribber? I have purchased a cribbing
collar and that spray that is supposed to taste yukky and a ball. (to keep
the boredom away) I hate to say this but it is the new little Fjord we
bought. My reading said it is practically impossible to cure and they teach
your other horses how to do it. I am concerned that if it can't be caught
(he is young) only 2 and a bit that we should perhaps reconsider our
purchase. (But they are so cute I would hate to have to send him back). Is
he still young enough to be rescued?

Betty Q from Alberta




re: visitors...

2000-08-04 Thread Ingrid Ivic
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> And my mom is probably one of them!  Well, she and my aunt don't actually 
> stop, but every once in a while, I get a call from her and she says "oh, we 
> were driving, and there's this place that has these fjords in their front 
> yard sometime.  Your aunt and I think they are so cute".  The live in 
> Garfield Hts.
> 
> Pamela

Hi Pam,
Heh-heh-hehcould be! Garfield Heights isn't too too far 
awayIngrid  :o)



Re: Fjord Mare for sale

2000-08-04 Thread Melissa Smith
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please email me pic's.thanx!

On Thu, 03 August 2000, "gary harriman" wrote:

> 
> This message is from: "gary harriman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> We are still offering for sale our 11 yo, 14h,  Fjord mare.  She is green
> trained to both ride and drive and just needs to be finished to be a super
> horse.  She is sweet tempered and very feminine looking.  We're asking
> $4500.  We're located in Southern Maine.  We have pictures available.
> E-mail us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] We just have too many horses!


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Re: Panic snaps & other stuff

2000-08-04 Thread Northhorse
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In a message dated 8/4/00 9:55:52 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<<  What is more gorgeous than
 Alaska in its wilderness?   >>

Not a thing!  Which is why we lost Hallie Sanders from Washington up to the 
crisp, cool, Northwest Passage!

Pamela



Tieing safety

2000-08-04 Thread GAIL RUSSELL
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Also did anyone ever hear tell of hooking the
>snap in a side halter ring as opposed to under the chin?  This method was
>mentioned to me by an Appaloosa breeder friend of mine.  I am used to
>ordinary horses that lack the busy brain activities of the Fjord. (:  ...the
>stuff Storm does is pricelessI could write a book.

I can tell you one downside of hooking to a side halter ring.  Our slant
load trailer has drop down windows and rings directly above the center of
the window (and the horse's "stall") in the trailer.  I bought trailer ties
with quick release snaps at the top, but they were for a straight load
trailer and, consequently, too short to hook to the bottom halter ring and
still allow the horse to get his head down.  

So... I hooked them to the upper side ring.  Worked for quite a
whileuntil the day Decaffe got his CHIN over the rope.  So then the rope
went DOWN from the tie ring above his head, UNDER his chin, and up to the
upper halter ring on the other side.  It rubbed him raw across the side of
his face and over the top of his poll.  Not to mention the fact that he was
completely hysterical by the time I got off the freeway and opened the
window to check on him.  It took me a couple of weeks before I could even
touch his poll again.  Luckily, this was an older horse who had previous
good experiences that helped him to, eventually, erase the bad one.  Wanna
know how HORRID it feels to have let this happen to him?  I had a sleepness
night or two!  

My basic rule is, find the cheapest ALL cotton 1/4-3/8 clothesline and tie
it onto your tie rings.  Then tie the horse to the clothes line.  Of course,
this is not really advisable when you are trying to teach the horse that
"tied, means tied" - but it has saved me from the consequences of a couple
of my mental lapses already.

Speaking of mental lapses, - Jim and I hitched up the horse trailer the
other day.  I gallantly climbed in the truck to hook up the gooseneck,
instead of waiting for him to do it.  Did the safety chain and the
electrical and hopped into the truck to go riding at the beach in the
evening (Jean Ernest - are you listening? - fall riding around the time of
the Turlock show around here is wonderful at the beach.).  Well, about half
way down the winding road to Bodega Bay, Jim asks me, did you latch the
gooseneck hitch down?  NOPE!  So the only thing holding the gooseneck hitch
on the ball in the truck was the weight of the gooseneck.  Scary.
Gail Russell
Forestville CA
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Re: Salt

2000-08-04 Thread Misty Meadows B & B
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Salt - mineral blocks Did you say salt? As many of you know, our
fjords here
at Misty Meadows live together as an intact herd, sharing everything.
Even salt!!! See the photo on our webpage www.mistymeadows.com - in the
contact us
section. We love salt!!!

Cathy Koshman
Misty Meadows B&B and Fjords
Victoria, BC Canada



Re: Panic snaps & other stuff

2000-08-04 Thread Jean Gayle
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Pam and how about the cruise to Alaska?  They have started up the old
railroad into the hinterlands, Jean Ernest? What is more gorgeous than
Alaska in its wilderness?  We better not over do it our Steve will move up
there>  Jean





Jean Gayle
Aberdeen, WA
[Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter"
Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ]
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Re: Salt/Mineral Blocks

2000-08-04 Thread OLSENELAIN
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In the discussion  of salt blocks you said that you read that they could be 
bad for horses. I was recently told by my vet not to let my Fjord gelding eat 
the mineral salt block for a while because he is a horse that likes to eat 
salt and he finished a 5lb. salt block in less than two weeks. My vet was 
indicating that my horse could be getting too much copper and this can 
irratate his tendons. Some salt blocks contain selinium too and heavy metals 
can be dangerous if too much is consumed. I have never heard of this before, 
but on this particular horse, I give him only the white salt block now. 



Re: missing digest

2000-08-04 Thread Jean Gayle
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Pam, I have to get to work, enjoying this list too much!  Someone once
mentioned using egg white or our hair products to train wild manes.  Jean



Jean Gayle
Aberdeen, WA
[Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter"
Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ]
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Barnes & Noble Book Stores





Re: Panic snaps & other stuff

2000-08-04 Thread Jean Gayle
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Now Jean, did Any of us mention the negatives in our recruitment efforts?
"it rains a lot doesn't it".  Well as for rain we are actually having a
drought, sp?.  Last year was the beginning of our warming trend with less
storms and rain.  The Rain Forest,named aptly after it's rain fall, gets a
lot though and is mysteriously draped in long shreds of moss dripping
quietly onto the thickly carpeted ground.  Sound is muffled by the decay of
silent years. The grunt of the bear and the longing of the bull elk break
the silence.  Etc, etc, etc.




Jean Gayle
Aberdeen, WA
[Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter"
Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ]
http://www.techline.com/~jgayle
Barnes & Noble Book Stores





Ambience

2000-08-04 Thread Knutsen Fjord Farm
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Hi all -

Our enticements for Steve - hot in summer, cold in winter, winds blows hard
A LOT. Coyotes, sometime cougars, ticks and rattlesnakes. Large population
of good ole' boys who know that the only real horse is a 1/4 one. Well,
maybe an Appie Not a tree on the place when we moved in. Both kinds of
music, Country and Western. Generally rugged.

Course we have all that other stuff that folks have mentioned nearby,
including ski resorts and mountain riding. And more than our share of stars,
we've been told. And a 360 degree view [till some of the trees we've planted
grow up] across the valley to the mountains. And the Yakima River, catch and
release only, and other Quality fishing lakes and streams nearby. And a
University. And a town that has torn the aluminum siding off its old
buildings and restored them, and values generally the right stuff.

And we could sure use another good vet, and friend.

Bye, Peg Knutsen http://www.eburg.com/~kffjord/




Re: Fjords for sale, and fjord wanted

2000-08-04 Thread Mary Thurman
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  > This message is from: misha nogha
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > 
> > Hey Guys: Terri Letcher from Washington State is
> looking for a well broke
> > gelding for her fourteen year old daughter for
> pony club.


Might try sending her to Unrau's.  They have a
four-year-old gelding, well broke, for sale right now,
I believe.  Plus a couple of fillies that their
daughter, Sam, is training right now for riding.  Sam
is into versatility riding - western and English - so
anything she works with should be pretty good.

Mary
 

=
Mary Thurman
Raintree Farms
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Search Engines

2000-08-04 Thread Mike May, Registrar NFHR

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At 04:50 AM 8/4/00 -0600, you wrote:

This message is from: "Bushnell's" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

At 09:36 PM 08/03/2000 -0400, you wrote:
>This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>At 11:10 AM 8/3/00 -0700, you wrote:
>>This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>>Mike, thank you for the good search engine, appreciated.  Already found
>>genealogy things I needed.   Jean
>
>
>No problem.  It is by far the best I have found yet and I have tried a lot
>of them.

Mike, I love that search engine too! I feel like you have sent a wonderful
gift that I "played" with considerably when I received it. (and will again
today). I guess that's what makes wise Fjord gurus so great is their
sharing nature. Thanks ever so much.



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Re: missing digest

2000-08-04 Thread Northhorse
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In a message dated 8/4/00 6:05:09 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

<< I had asked some questions about what to do with the long softish hairs
 growing along the base of Storms mane.  They tend to stick out straight.
 What will I do with them?  I was wondering if some of you had answered
 this >>

Sorry.  I didn't answer before, but will now.  Nikki has these hairs now.  
When trimming (her hair also tends to push forward towards her poll) I need 
to keep her mane wet and comb straight up to get a decent cut.  Once it's 
cut, it tends to stay in shape, till she's next due, then the same problems 
over again.  Hope it helps.  

Pamela



Re: missing digest/Manes

2000-08-04 Thread Jean Ernest
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One of my Fjords has a mane with a lot of this soft hair on the very upper
poart of his neck.  I just trim it off.  His mane also does not stand up
very well in that area but I hold it upright to trim then it curls down
after the trim, only a short area back of his ears.  It actually looks
pretty good when I trim his mane pretty short.  Gives a nice arch at the
pole. I trim HIS mane with an inch of theblack showing. All my Fjords are
different in their mane styles so I have to do a style to suit the horse.
And yes, one side ALWAYS looks better!

Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, the First day of the Fair and it ISN'T
RAINING...yet! (could the weatherman/Fair tradition be wrong?)
  

Jean Ernest
Fairbanks, Alaska
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Recruiting my vet

2000-08-04 Thread Cynthia_Madden/OAA/UNO/UNEBR
This message is from: Cynthia_Madden/OAA/UNO/[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Excuse me, Jon, Mary and Gayle, but we like our vet, Steve, and his vet wife,
Amy, just fine. And... if they have to move somewhere they can go with me to the
land of enchantment, New Mexico, where horses need a decent and caring vet more
than your locations!  And in the meantime, we need him right here to take care
of our horse kids and where they  are the only other members of the Omaha Fjord
Horse Club.  So just stop tempting him! (I can't blame him for wanting to go
somewhere else though)

Cynthia Madden
Omaha, Nebraska
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Re: Panic snaps & other stuff

2000-08-04 Thread Northhorse
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In a message dated 8/3/00 10:29:22 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< There are two local airports, one with a great restaurant and cinnamon
 rolls.  We are a port town, two villages offer charter ocean fishing and
 whale watching.  The famous (half hours drive) Ocean Shores offers
 convention centers, fishing, surfing, all kinds of activities are scheduled
 and great seafood.  The rugged coast line is a trip to remember with Indian
 villages and excellent restaurants. >>

Oh Jean, you are making me fall in love all over again with the Northwest, 
and I already live here!  A couple things  you didn't mention: Pike's 
Marketplace.  Great open air stuff, but sheltered from rain.  Right across 
the street is a wonderful French Patisserie with true French apple tarts!

Wildlife sanctuaries abounding.  The Puget Sound.  So close to Victoria 
Island, and you can take a ferry over a long weekend ( or a week) up the 
Inside Passage to see beauty that is unimaginable, and found nowhere else in 
the world.  

Pamela



Re: missing digest

2000-08-04 Thread Sue Harrison
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I was wondering if there was a digest sent out on July 01.  If so,  I missed
that one.
I had asked some questions about what to do with the long softish hairs
growing along the base of Storms mane.  They tend to stick out straight.
What will I do with them?  I was wondering if some of you had answered
this.  Is it possible there was a digest on this date and I missed some
replies?  The  previous letter that I sent follows this note.
I am going to purchase a soft thick rope to tie with and spray it with "Chew
Stop" or "Bitter Apple" .  Also did anyone ever hear tell of hooking the
snap in a side halter ring as opposed to under the chin?  This method was
mentioned to me by an Appaloosa breeder friend of mine.  I am used to
ordinary horses that lack the busy brain activities of the Fjord. (:  ...the
stuff Storm does is pricelessI could write a book. LOL


Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 09:32:20 -0300
>From: "Sue Harrison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: mane

>This message is from: "Sue Harrison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Hi again everyone:
Storm's mane  has white hairs laying down on the outer  edges of his mane on
his neck.  It always does this and I usually trim them off.  It actually is
a fair amount of hair and I don't know why it doesn't stand up like the rest
of his mane. It seems like it is not body hair or mane What should I do
with it?  It appears to be less stiff for some reason.  The rest of his mane
is due for a trimming but I am holding off till I hear from you guys.
Meredith:  you do not leave the black longer?  (When you cut from one side
straight across to the other)  I try to cut even but one side always comes
out neater no matter what.  Almost like Storm's mane is better on one
side.  I trim leaving the black longer. Should it be 1/2 to 1 inch
longer or what is the normal length of both the white and the black?
If you would like to see Storm here is my webshots addy
http://community.webshots.com/user/desertstorm40
We decided not to get the Paint filly.  Not sure if she carries the lethal
white gene. I am relieved...one colt is enough! (:
How do you guys tie up your young animals so that they cannot get a foot
over their rope?  We tried  Storm with a rope and he chewed it.  So we went
with a chainFirst he got his foot over that, and was rescued.  He then
unfastened the snap, wrapped the chain around one ankle and refastened the
snap in a link of the chain! (How the heck did he do that?)  There he stood
firmly chained by one foot...like a circus elephent.  We have not tied him
since...letting him run in and out of his box stall. Thankfully he did not
panic when caught that way.  He stood patiently waiting to be rescued.  What
>do I try next??
>Sue in N.B. (Desert Storm's mom)