Re: Salt/Mineral Blocks
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's a very good idea to first check with your vet before using anything (especially feed related items) that is labeled for cattle. Lots of cattle products have growth promotants in them that are deadly to horses. The mineral blocks for cattle are toxic to sheep. Too much copper. I don't believe that an adult horse would consume enough of the block to make a difference, but I would watch out for a weanling or yearling. I did one time see a horse that would actually eat the blocks, not just lick them. In that case I think it would have been toxic if it was allowed to continue. Steve White Waterloo, Nebraska
Re: Panic snaps & other stuff
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > However, I can > promise > you a busy and lucrative practice with, as I said, relief shifts > from your > fellow Vets. That is probably more enticing than scenery or any other fringe benefit. I just started my own practice about two years ago after working with someone for six years. While I don't regret going solo, it is frustrating having to be on call 24hrs/day, seven days a week. It's a little competitive around here, so it can be hard to find someone to take calls for me. Steve
Re: Cribbing
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Betty, is he really cribbingGrabbing on the board with his teeth and then sucking in air? Or is he just chewing wood? At that age they are teething...losing the middle two front incisors with the new permanent ones coming in and seem to need to chew on stuff. I have given nime green Aspen saplings to chew on. Does he have pasture to chew on? just a thought. I don't think the collar would stop them from chewing wood, but the "no Chew" sprays, etc. might. I heard There is something called "Dycosote" which works pretty good. (Sort of replaced creosote) Jean in Fairbanks, where the Rain HAS started for the first day of the Fair afterall. Over 60 entrys in the Dressage show, can you believe it? > >Does anyone have any advice for a cribber? I have purchased a cribbing >collar and that spray that is supposed to taste yukky and a ball. (to keep >the boredom away) I hate to say this but it is the new little Fjord we >bought. Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Recruiting my vet
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 8/4/00 7:38:48 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Cynthia_Madden/OAA/UNO/[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << And... if they have to move somewhere they can go with me to the land of enchantment, New Mexico, where horses need a decent and caring vet more than your locations! >> Actually, there's a great vet in New Mexico that I'd like to come up here to Oregon!!! Depending on what area you are in. We lived in Peralta, near Las Lunas, Bosque Farms. Dr. Kosper is just great. Drove all the way to Ginny Cowles (on his own time) to inspect Juniper for me. When we went to France for a couple weeks, he trailered our horses for us to suitable temporary housing. He is a wonderful large animal, small animal vet. When he'd come to vaccinate, worm the horses, he's also take care of our dogs and cats too. If you are going to be anywhere in his area, I'd highly recommend him. I wish we had somebody like him in Oregon! Pamela
Re: visitors...
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 8/4/00 10:47:17 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Hi Pam, Heh-heh-hehcould be! Garfield Heights isn't too too far awayIngrid :o)>> I thought it must be you! BTW, don't be too surprised if I end up being one of your neighbors in the next couple of years. I've got lots of family in that area, to help watch over my son, in the event anything happens to me. It "looks" like property values are going to go sky high where I'm living now, if it does what I think it will, we're going to take the money and run, and buy a nice little horse property in Ohio. Stay tuned Pamela
Re: weight
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 8/4/00 7:23:18 AM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Couldn't be connected to age and weight? My goodness, No! Not me! LOL >> I'm not fat, I'm short. I was supposed to be 16 feet tall. Gail
All the web
This message is from: misha nogha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hey Mike!!! Thanks so much for the new search engine info. I like it VERY MUCH. I am tired of those millions of ads clicking through the other guys to make loading the home page a hassle and plus most of the negines hardly have ANYTHING on the topics I typed in on All the Web. Best Misha
Re: Cribbing
This message is from: "Betty Quinlan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi, Does anyone have any advice for a cribber? I have purchased a cribbing collar and that spray that is supposed to taste yukky and a ball. (to keep the boredom away) I hate to say this but it is the new little Fjord we bought. My reading said it is practically impossible to cure and they teach your other horses how to do it. I am concerned that if it can't be caught (he is young) only 2 and a bit that we should perhaps reconsider our purchase. (But they are so cute I would hate to have to send him back). Is he still young enough to be rescued? Betty Q from Alberta
re: visitors...
This message is from: Ingrid Ivic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > And my mom is probably one of them! Well, she and my aunt don't actually > stop, but every once in a while, I get a call from her and she says "oh, we > were driving, and there's this place that has these fjords in their front > yard sometime. Your aunt and I think they are so cute". The live in > Garfield Hts. > > Pamela Hi Pam, Heh-heh-hehcould be! Garfield Heights isn't too too far awayIngrid :o)
Re: Fjord Mare for sale
This message is from: Melissa Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> please email me pic's.thanx! On Thu, 03 August 2000, "gary harriman" wrote: > > This message is from: "gary harriman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > We are still offering for sale our 11 yo, 14h, Fjord mare. She is green > trained to both ride and drive and just needs to be finished to be a super > horse. She is sweet tempered and very feminine looking. We're asking > $4500. We're located in Southern Maine. We have pictures available. > E-mail us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] We just have too many horses! Backstreet Boys Official Store: http://bsbdirect.com Backstreet Boys Official Site: http://www.backstreetboys.com
Re: Panic snaps & other stuff
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 8/4/00 9:55:52 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << What is more gorgeous than Alaska in its wilderness? >> Not a thing! Which is why we lost Hallie Sanders from Washington up to the crisp, cool, Northwest Passage! Pamela
Tieing safety
This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Also did anyone ever hear tell of hooking the >snap in a side halter ring as opposed to under the chin? This method was >mentioned to me by an Appaloosa breeder friend of mine. I am used to >ordinary horses that lack the busy brain activities of the Fjord. (: ...the >stuff Storm does is pricelessI could write a book. I can tell you one downside of hooking to a side halter ring. Our slant load trailer has drop down windows and rings directly above the center of the window (and the horse's "stall") in the trailer. I bought trailer ties with quick release snaps at the top, but they were for a straight load trailer and, consequently, too short to hook to the bottom halter ring and still allow the horse to get his head down. So... I hooked them to the upper side ring. Worked for quite a whileuntil the day Decaffe got his CHIN over the rope. So then the rope went DOWN from the tie ring above his head, UNDER his chin, and up to the upper halter ring on the other side. It rubbed him raw across the side of his face and over the top of his poll. Not to mention the fact that he was completely hysterical by the time I got off the freeway and opened the window to check on him. It took me a couple of weeks before I could even touch his poll again. Luckily, this was an older horse who had previous good experiences that helped him to, eventually, erase the bad one. Wanna know how HORRID it feels to have let this happen to him? I had a sleepness night or two! My basic rule is, find the cheapest ALL cotton 1/4-3/8 clothesline and tie it onto your tie rings. Then tie the horse to the clothes line. Of course, this is not really advisable when you are trying to teach the horse that "tied, means tied" - but it has saved me from the consequences of a couple of my mental lapses already. Speaking of mental lapses, - Jim and I hitched up the horse trailer the other day. I gallantly climbed in the truck to hook up the gooseneck, instead of waiting for him to do it. Did the safety chain and the electrical and hopped into the truck to go riding at the beach in the evening (Jean Ernest - are you listening? - fall riding around the time of the Turlock show around here is wonderful at the beach.). Well, about half way down the winding road to Bodega Bay, Jim asks me, did you latch the gooseneck hitch down? NOPE! So the only thing holding the gooseneck hitch on the ball in the truck was the weight of the gooseneck. Scary. Gail Russell Forestville CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Salt
This message is from: Misty Meadows B & B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Salt - mineral blocks Did you say salt? As many of you know, our fjords here at Misty Meadows live together as an intact herd, sharing everything. Even salt!!! See the photo on our webpage www.mistymeadows.com - in the contact us section. We love salt!!! Cathy Koshman Misty Meadows B&B and Fjords Victoria, BC Canada
Re: Panic snaps & other stuff
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Pam and how about the cruise to Alaska? They have started up the old railroad into the hinterlands, Jean Ernest? What is more gorgeous than Alaska in its wilderness? We better not over do it our Steve will move up there> Jean Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes & Noble Book Stores
Re: Salt/Mineral Blocks
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the discussion of salt blocks you said that you read that they could be bad for horses. I was recently told by my vet not to let my Fjord gelding eat the mineral salt block for a while because he is a horse that likes to eat salt and he finished a 5lb. salt block in less than two weeks. My vet was indicating that my horse could be getting too much copper and this can irratate his tendons. Some salt blocks contain selinium too and heavy metals can be dangerous if too much is consumed. I have never heard of this before, but on this particular horse, I give him only the white salt block now.
Re: missing digest
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Pam, I have to get to work, enjoying this list too much! Someone once mentioned using egg white or our hair products to train wild manes. Jean Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes & Noble Book Stores
Re: Panic snaps & other stuff
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Now Jean, did Any of us mention the negatives in our recruitment efforts? "it rains a lot doesn't it". Well as for rain we are actually having a drought, sp?. Last year was the beginning of our warming trend with less storms and rain. The Rain Forest,named aptly after it's rain fall, gets a lot though and is mysteriously draped in long shreds of moss dripping quietly onto the thickly carpeted ground. Sound is muffled by the decay of silent years. The grunt of the bear and the longing of the bull elk break the silence. Etc, etc, etc. Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes & Noble Book Stores
Ambience
This message is from: "Knutsen Fjord Farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi all - Our enticements for Steve - hot in summer, cold in winter, winds blows hard A LOT. Coyotes, sometime cougars, ticks and rattlesnakes. Large population of good ole' boys who know that the only real horse is a 1/4 one. Well, maybe an Appie Not a tree on the place when we moved in. Both kinds of music, Country and Western. Generally rugged. Course we have all that other stuff that folks have mentioned nearby, including ski resorts and mountain riding. And more than our share of stars, we've been told. And a 360 degree view [till some of the trees we've planted grow up] across the valley to the mountains. And the Yakima River, catch and release only, and other Quality fishing lakes and streams nearby. And a University. And a town that has torn the aluminum siding off its old buildings and restored them, and values generally the right stuff. And we could sure use another good vet, and friend. Bye, Peg Knutsen http://www.eburg.com/~kffjord/
Re: Fjords for sale, and fjord wanted
This message is from: Mary Thurman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > This message is from: misha nogha > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Hey Guys: Terri Letcher from Washington State is > looking for a well broke > > gelding for her fourteen year old daughter for > pony club. Might try sending her to Unrau's. They have a four-year-old gelding, well broke, for sale right now, I believe. Plus a couple of fillies that their daughter, Sam, is training right now for riding. Sam is into versatility riding - western and English - so anything she works with should be pretty good. Mary = Mary Thurman Raintree Farms [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/
Search Engines
This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 04:50 AM 8/4/00 -0600, you wrote: This message is from: "Bushnell's" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 09:36 PM 08/03/2000 -0400, you wrote: >This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >At 11:10 AM 8/3/00 -0700, you wrote: >>This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >>Mike, thank you for the good search engine, appreciated. Already found >>genealogy things I needed. Jean > > >No problem. It is by far the best I have found yet and I have tried a lot >of them. Mike, I love that search engine too! I feel like you have sent a wonderful gift that I "played" with considerably when I received it. (and will again today). I guess that's what makes wise Fjord gurus so great is their sharing nature. Thanks ever so much. Glad you liked it. 1stUp.com - Free the Web Get your free Internet access at http://www.1stUp.com
Re: missing digest
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 8/4/00 6:05:09 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << I had asked some questions about what to do with the long softish hairs growing along the base of Storms mane. They tend to stick out straight. What will I do with them? I was wondering if some of you had answered this >> Sorry. I didn't answer before, but will now. Nikki has these hairs now. When trimming (her hair also tends to push forward towards her poll) I need to keep her mane wet and comb straight up to get a decent cut. Once it's cut, it tends to stay in shape, till she's next due, then the same problems over again. Hope it helps. Pamela
Re: missing digest/Manes
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> One of my Fjords has a mane with a lot of this soft hair on the very upper poart of his neck. I just trim it off. His mane also does not stand up very well in that area but I hold it upright to trim then it curls down after the trim, only a short area back of his ears. It actually looks pretty good when I trim his mane pretty short. Gives a nice arch at the pole. I trim HIS mane with an inch of theblack showing. All my Fjords are different in their mane styles so I have to do a style to suit the horse. And yes, one side ALWAYS looks better! Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, the First day of the Fair and it ISN'T RAINING...yet! (could the weatherman/Fair tradition be wrong?) Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Recruiting my vet
This message is from: Cynthia_Madden/OAA/UNO/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Excuse me, Jon, Mary and Gayle, but we like our vet, Steve, and his vet wife, Amy, just fine. And... if they have to move somewhere they can go with me to the land of enchantment, New Mexico, where horses need a decent and caring vet more than your locations! And in the meantime, we need him right here to take care of our horse kids and where they are the only other members of the Omaha Fjord Horse Club. So just stop tempting him! (I can't blame him for wanting to go somewhere else though) Cynthia Madden Omaha, Nebraska email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Panic snaps & other stuff
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 8/3/00 10:29:22 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << There are two local airports, one with a great restaurant and cinnamon rolls. We are a port town, two villages offer charter ocean fishing and whale watching. The famous (half hours drive) Ocean Shores offers convention centers, fishing, surfing, all kinds of activities are scheduled and great seafood. The rugged coast line is a trip to remember with Indian villages and excellent restaurants. >> Oh Jean, you are making me fall in love all over again with the Northwest, and I already live here! A couple things you didn't mention: Pike's Marketplace. Great open air stuff, but sheltered from rain. Right across the street is a wonderful French Patisserie with true French apple tarts! Wildlife sanctuaries abounding. The Puget Sound. So close to Victoria Island, and you can take a ferry over a long weekend ( or a week) up the Inside Passage to see beauty that is unimaginable, and found nowhere else in the world. Pamela
Re: missing digest
This message is from: "Sue Harrison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I was wondering if there was a digest sent out on July 01. If so, I missed that one. I had asked some questions about what to do with the long softish hairs growing along the base of Storms mane. They tend to stick out straight. What will I do with them? I was wondering if some of you had answered this. Is it possible there was a digest on this date and I missed some replies? The previous letter that I sent follows this note. I am going to purchase a soft thick rope to tie with and spray it with "Chew Stop" or "Bitter Apple" . Also did anyone ever hear tell of hooking the snap in a side halter ring as opposed to under the chin? This method was mentioned to me by an Appaloosa breeder friend of mine. I am used to ordinary horses that lack the busy brain activities of the Fjord. (: ...the stuff Storm does is pricelessI could write a book. LOL Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 09:32:20 -0300 >From: "Sue Harrison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: mane >This message is from: "Sue Harrison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Hi again everyone: Storm's mane has white hairs laying down on the outer edges of his mane on his neck. It always does this and I usually trim them off. It actually is a fair amount of hair and I don't know why it doesn't stand up like the rest of his mane. It seems like it is not body hair or mane What should I do with it? It appears to be less stiff for some reason. The rest of his mane is due for a trimming but I am holding off till I hear from you guys. Meredith: you do not leave the black longer? (When you cut from one side straight across to the other) I try to cut even but one side always comes out neater no matter what. Almost like Storm's mane is better on one side. I trim leaving the black longer. Should it be 1/2 to 1 inch longer or what is the normal length of both the white and the black? If you would like to see Storm here is my webshots addy http://community.webshots.com/user/desertstorm40 We decided not to get the Paint filly. Not sure if she carries the lethal white gene. I am relieved...one colt is enough! (: How do you guys tie up your young animals so that they cannot get a foot over their rope? We tried Storm with a rope and he chewed it. So we went with a chainFirst he got his foot over that, and was rescued. He then unfastened the snap, wrapped the chain around one ankle and refastened the snap in a link of the chain! (How the heck did he do that?) There he stood firmly chained by one foot...like a circus elephent. We have not tied him since...letting him run in and out of his box stall. Thankfully he did not panic when caught that way. He stood patiently waiting to be rescued. What >do I try next?? >Sue in N.B. (Desert Storm's mom)