thanks for trailer info
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lynn Binkowski) Hi, Thanks to everyone for your comments on how to pick a safe, serviceable horse trailer. The information was very helpful, and I think I will be buying the wonderful book several people mentioned. Gotta love Amazon.com! --Lynn in CT
Re: I've been lurking, now I need help.
This message is from: Alison Bakken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Nancy, If the horse is registered with the Canadian Livestock Records, within the last 12 years she will be mirochipped. You should be able to track her that way if she is chipped. The chips are on the left side of the neck about half way down. Most of the vets have a scanner that will read the chips. The CLRC has web site. www.clrc.on.ca Good Luck Alison from Alberta
Re: thanks for trailer info
This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I may have that book used, if you have not bought it yet. I need to clean closets!At 06:58 PM 9/19/2000 -0400, you wrote: >This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lynn Binkowski) > >Hi, >Thanks to everyone for your comments on how to pick a safe, serviceable >horse trailer. The information was very helpful, and I think I will be >buying the wonderful book several people mentioned. Gotta love >Amazon.com! >--Lynn in CT > > > > Gail Russell Forestville CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Libby
This message is from: Anita Unrau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi everyone, As usual trying to get caught up with all the reading on the digest. I would like to thank all the committee members and volunteers who made Libby what it is today. We had not been there since 1992 when Steven Spengler brought his Mexican trainer with him to Libby and he did some tricks between classes with Steven's Stallion. Was wonderful to see so many people and their horses all turned out nicely and the big classes made competing much more fun. Want to thank Cynthia for her kind words on our fillies at Libby. " and I fell in love with Anita and Orville Unrau's fillies.(I am buying lottery tickets!!) . Lisa and I will have duke it out for them if their aren't sold to someone else before either of us finds some cash! " The two fillies did a wonderful job. Sam entered most of the western and English riding classes as well as some of the single driving classes and log skid. Orville did three classes with the pair. He won the obstacles and second in the log skid and I think a second in pair pleasure driving. Things got very hectic with so many changes from harness to english, etc. that I lost track of what most of the ribbons were for. Will have to wait for results to fill them in. Carol Rivoire made some comments from the Fjord digest #243 that I wanted to comment on. I just got a new Imac computer and being computer illiterate I am finding it hard to figure out how to do everything. So please bear with me as I struggle through pasting her comments on "Thanks Ursula for the interesting posting on Libby. Congratulations to you and Brian for some great driving. Wish I'd been there this year. You mentioned the driving competition getting fierce at Libby. Well I guess. . . with an FEI driver like Orville Unrau. Were there any levels other than Novice and Open at Libby? Somehow it doesn't seem fair for Training or Preliminary Level drivers competing against World-Class drivers. Orville Unrau has competed in a World Championship, hasn't he? What do you think? On the other hand, it must have been fun to have him back at Libby, and to have the opportunity to compete against him. " Carol, I really wonder how you can make comments about the horse coming first in all considerations of training and husbandry then imply by your above comments that because Orville drove our Hannoverian gelding in a World Championship that every horse born on our property is now born at an advanced level. This would be wonderful indeed as life would be much easier not having to train to get to that level. This was the first time in 8 years that we had been to a Fjord show because we enjoy the thrill of Combined driving to Pleasure driving. We got home from delivering horses to Minn. and Wisc. and being spectators at the Blue Earth show late Friday night July 28th. Unpacked and cleaned the trailer up Saturday and on Sunday after vistors left Sam saddled up her TB gelding and chased horses down the mountain to home. We went through all the Fjords we own and decided that two three year old fillies that Sam (Kerry) had put 30 days on one and 60 days riding on another would make a matched pair and with a mouth already on them would maybe be ready for Libby. On Monday, July 31 Orville started ground driving them single, Tuesday, Aug 1, hooked them each to a tire and had them drag it, and so on until ready to hook up as a pair later in the week. It was after Sept. first when he drove them single for the first time as all their driving had been as a pair until this time. Sam kept riding Olga and got her ready for the Western and English riding classes she decided to enter. This pair of fillies after getting preg tested in May and turned out on the mountain all summer were very fit. They had barely a month of driving training and had never left home before. Orville did do well in the three classes he entered and Orville's driving ability certainly helped but to say he should only drive Advanced level with such green horses??? Carol, I was very surprised by your comments. Some people have been competing the same horses in the same classes at Libby for years, is this any different? If anyone is interested in buying either of these beautiful fillies email me privately for pictures and pedigrees. I contacted Fred Pack to let him know which pictures he posted were the filles and Sam. Anita Unrau Anvil's Acres Norwegian Fjord Horses "Diposition, Conformation, Versatility" ~
Dorsal stripes?
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello - have a newbie question Is it common or not common for Fjords to have a dorsal stripe? I don't seem to see many that do. Sher in Colorado
Thank You missed
This message is from: Anita Unrau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In my earlier posting I forgot to thank Beth Beymer for her kind words about our fillies as well. She did a excellent job and definitely deserved the Versatility award. Well done. Sandy did all the videoing for the show. That was another awesome job as you don't see anything of the show when concentrating on doing a good job. Anita Unrau Anvil's Acres Norwegian Fjord Horses
Re: I've been lurking, now I need help.
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Nancy, welcome to the list! Check out the Canadian Fjord Horse Association pedigree website: http://www.clrc.on.ca/fjord.html for starters. Orville and Anita Unrau used to lived in Armstrong, I believe and know a lot of the early Fjord breeders. Anita Unrau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> could probably tell you something. Hope this helps as a starter. Enjoy your Fjord! Jean in FAirbank, Alaska, where the sun is shining, finally! Still gold leaves on the trees but a lot on the ground! >It's taken me a few months but thanks to a few >that have given me some time I have tracked her to Armstrong, BC. ... The man that bred her mom was named Herb Bannnister and >he died. This mare was with another Fjord and some other horses and went >thru an estate sale, that's where the horse trader's picked her upto >good to pass... Herb Bannister was a quiet batchelor and didn't keep good >records but I have heard from a customer (long story, I own a fruit >standsmall world) .that Herb might have bred Fjords and she may be >registered. I know there are some Fjord farms up north in the Okanagon in >Washington...or does anyone know of some Fjord breeders near or in >Armstrong, B.C.? Is there a separate registry for Canada Fjords? Are there >any web sites I might be able to try? Is there a way to track registered >Fjords thru DNA? Does anyone know a Fjord owner in Armstrong? How about >near Armstrong? I also think I have the name of the man that owns my mare's >father...Neal Trenholme. Does anyone know this man? Guess I'm just >throwing things our here hoping for a miracle. Also, if I do find the >parents and they are true Fjords, how would I go about registering her so I >could breed her? Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2000 #245
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 9/19/00 2:58:49 PM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << I am so tired of RAIN. >>
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2000 #245
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] << I am so tired of RAIN. >> Wash your mouth out with soap! Gail in drought land
I've been lurking, now I need help.
This message is from: "nancy nicholson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi. I have a story. My name is Nancy and I am a old quarterhorse nut converted to Fjords this last Spring. I leased my daughter's quarterhorse to a Fjord family while she is in college and I fell in love with them, the fjords, at first sight. I used the internet for fun and took interest in one on a "horse-trading" farm. I watched her all winter, took a trip to Canada and my husband humored me..a visit to the farm. I saw her and fell in love. He said no. A week later I made an offer and it was accepted for a song., only because of no papers. So this is my journey. I was told I counldn't track her cause of her "auction and horse trader history". Guess I just don't accept..."no". It's taken me a few months but thanks to a few that have given me some time I have tracked her to Armstrong, BC. I am in Washington state and don't know much about up north or the Fjord registry as yet. I just know I love this animal (although she can be a snot sometimeds like my teenager). The man that bred her mom was named Herb Bannnister and he died. This mare was with another Fjord and some other horses and went thru an estate sale, that's where the horse trader's picked her upto good to pass... Herb Bannister was a quiet batchelor and didn't keep good records but I have heard from a customer (long story, I own a fruit standsmall world) .that Herb might have bred Fjords and she may be registered. I know there are some Fjord farms up north in the Okanagon in Washington...or does anyone know of some Fjord breeders near or in Armstrong, B.C.? Is there a separate registry for Canada Fjords? Are there any web sites I might be able to try? Is there a way to track registered Fjords thru DNA? Does anyone know a Fjord owner in Armstrong? How about near Armstrong? I also think I have the name of the man that owns my mare's father...Neal Trenholme. Does anyone know this man? Guess I'm just throwing things our here hoping for a miracle. Also, if I do find the parents and they are true Fjords, how would I go about registering her so I could breed her? I know how strick the registry is to stay true to the beed. I guess I am hoping that this will have a happy ending since she is only about 7 years old. But...it will have a happy ending...I really love her and she is stunning. A real compliment to the breed. Thanks for your time, Nancy.
Wanted Carriage
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] We are intrested in a Bell crown carriage. Would like to fond a used one in good working cond. Email me privatly please. Tillie Dun Lookin' Fjords Bud, Tillie & Amy Evers Redmond OR [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ridge/8589
RE: Want some prints of the Libby show?
This message is from: "Frederick J. \(Fred\) Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jean, this is NOT one of those free web sites. They offer you some free prints to join in the hopes that you will order more in the future. ImageStation at Sony has made some high quality stuff for meat a reasonable price. On the site is a check box as to whether or not you want to receive e-mail from them OR not wish to share your address with other vendors linked to Sony. I get no Spam stuff from Sony or affiliates. Fred Fred regarding all of these "free" websites, don't you pick up advertising? I am on someone's list and get four or five ads a day and am trying to squelch them through "abuse.net" and my on line assist. Jean> ] Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes & Noble Book Stores
Gladstone..World Singles Champ. Cancelled
This message is from: "Ursula Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For those of you who don't already know or had planned to attend the World's Single's Championship.it's cancelled due to the fear of West Nile Virus..darn those mosquitos...can you imagine the work that has gone into this event and the aniticipation of the competitors? Very disappointing!!! Ursula & Brian Jensen Trinity Fjords Box 1032 Lumby BC Canada V0E-2G0 http://okjunc.junction.net/~ujensen/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (250) 547-6303
Re: Michael & Betsy
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Arthur Rivoire) Hello Everybody from Carol Rivoire at Beaver Dam Farm in Nova Scotia - It was Sunday night two weeks ago when the phone rang. Arthur answered, and seemed delighted by the caller. It was Michael Scott saying, "Well, I'm sitting in my Award Chair calling to tell you about our weekend at the Villa Louise Carriage Classic. --- Arthur got more and more Delighted as he listened. Finally, I got on the extension and heard the good news from Michael and Betsy. They'd done marvelously at this big, important, classy Pleasure Driving Show. - * 1st place in Turnout * 1st place in Working Pleasure * 1st place in Cross Country * 1st place in Gambler's Choice * 2nd place in Reinsmanship * 2nd place in Cones, Pick Your Route * Won the Novice Pony Championship They were driving BDF MISS NAVETA (Gjest x Maryke [Hjerter-Knaeght daughter]}, previously known as "The Little Princess", now (after Villa Louise) upgraded to "The Queen." Our conversation was a grand mixture of reciprocal congratulations. Me telling them what a wonderful job they'd done, and how proud we were, and they telling me what a wonderful horse we'd bred. I told Betsy that she should post the whole experience for the Digest, but she's having computer trouble, so I said I'd do it if she'd email me with the details. She did that, and here's the gist of it, . . which she said so well, I wouldn't dream of changing her words. "Dear Carol and Arthur, We've been getting congrats all week - sure has been fun. Even the show mgr sent us an email. The best part of all this is seeing you can do it and don't need a pro trainer every step of the way. A lot of sweat equity went into that championship, but it paid off. Another bonus is all the wonderful carriage driving friends we've met along the way. Of all the horse disciplines I've been involved in, they are by far the very best. Everyone wants to win of course, but if you don't you had a good time and are happy for the ones that did win. Everyone is always there to lend a helping hand whether it be accessories, equipment, advice or just plain helping you to get to the next class. We had a lot of busy hands heping us clean harness and carriage intetween 8 classes. That's what is so nice about these people - friendly and helpful. You don't see that on other circuits. We think the grooming and presentation is very important, and shows that don't require this are missing out on a lot of fun, and pride in a job well done. We enjoy being as good as we can be, and making the breed look good, and I think we have succeeded at that. The biggest thrill was being a finalist in the lovely Concours d'Elegance Class. We knew we could not win with our Meaowbrook, but what a thrill to be invited for the 2nd time at that show, and once before at Columbus. We should knock them dead next year with our spindle seat phaeton, which is almost ready." ~ Betsy goes on to talk about BDF Miss Naveta . . . "We'll begin looking for a marathon vehicle because Michael still has his eye on CDE's. Naveta does equally as well in rail classes as cross-country, but she shines on the cross-country courses. Normally, she hates water and will jump a small puddle. The embankment at this show was quite steep, but she put her head down and never hesitated -- right on through, and up the other side for the next hazard. What a little trooper! Her stride was incredible out there - never faltered - just nice and easy and steady." ~ "The most fun class to watch was the Drive & Ride. There were 14 horses of every shape and size. She looked great in the driving section and kept her pace and transitions, but in the ride section, when they went on the flat, it was 'make way for me - I'm not letting this big Clydesdale pass me up', so she did the class with his nose on her butt and her ears flat back. Everyone was in stitches. Taking our first victory lap together (the 3 of us) was a thrill - I had to wipe the tears from my eyes after we won Turnout. When they were placing Working Pleasure, and it got down to the 1st placing, I squealed out loud when we won the Division. Michael said I should show a little decorum next time, but I was so excited. At the awards party on Sun. nite,they announced the Chamionships. When they got to Michael, we both went up to receive it, and the show mgr presented Michael with his Chamionship Directors Chair and a purple ribbon, then asked him to sit down and accept his applause. He got a standing ovation, which is something no one else did. --- Big tears at that point. -- After the party, we went out to dinner with the show mgr, judge, and a host of friends. What a nite! I suppose I shouldn't carry on so but when you work as hard as Michael has, it is so nice to be accepted and rewarded for your efforts." The cool thing about
Libby, etc.
This message is from: Cynthia_Madden/OAA/UNO/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Steve and I returned to Omaha late Friday night and I have spent the last three days catching up on everything including the FH-L. I really enjoyed Libby but I am so dissapointed to get back and find out how many people were there that I didn't get to meet. Fred, for instance, your pictures are great! I am also sorry to have missed out meeting Ruth Bushness, also! Who else did I miss?? Next time I get to come, everyone has to wear name tags But we did get to meet lots of listers and it was fun to put faces to so many people. We also met some confessed lurkers - come out, come out - you know who you are! The show had very impressive competition. The quality of horses and riders/drivers was excellent. It was a real pleasure to drive with Ursula Jensen and her porche fjord, Raynor.Seeing Brian's so called "suicide hitch" was a wonder. Beth Beymer and Sandy North were kept busy getting various horses ready for compeition and it was a real pleasure to see Beth win the versatility award with Magnum and watch her do the log skid. We got to help Lisa and Jeff Pedersen hitch their tandem, a first for us! and I fell in love with Anita and Orville Unrau's fillies.(I am buying lottery tickets!!) . Lisa and I will have duke it out for them if their aren't sold to someone else before either of us finds some cash! We enjoyed seeing Nancy Lehnert and Lou Theisen again and finally getting a chance to return their videos lent to us some time ago. It was also an honor to meet and even have dinner with Mary Woolverton of whom I have heard many good things for years. A note to Lisa and Mary Ofjord - have you done any dumpster diving lately??? After leaving Libby on Monday morning, we drove to Sandpoint, ID where I dropped some hard cash at Coldwater Creek (less expensive than the Unrau's fillies), then we returned to Libby where we visited an Amish log cabin builder, and then on to Glacier National Park. Next to Libby, I most enjoyed a half day spent in Cardston, Alberta where we by chance had found out about their carriage museum. If you have an opportunity to go, it is well worth while. It has the largest collection of carriages in North America and is a truly first class museum. It is called the Remington-Alberta Carriage Museum and if you are visiting Glacier it is only 30 minutes north of Babb. My most memorable sight - driving past a McDonald's in Buffalo, WY and seeing a fjord staked out by the driveway - eating as usual. It was too much! Well, back to the basics of earning a living. Vacation is over! Cynthia Madden email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Want some prints of the Libby show?
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Fred regarding all of these "free" websites, don't you pick up advertising? I am on someone's list and get four or five ads a day and am trying to squelch them through "abuse.net" and my on line assist. Jean ] Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes & Noble Book Stores
Libby 2000 picture series
This message is from: "Frederick J. \(Fred\) Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Many thanks to Betsy Billeter, and Shirley Anderson for sending me excellent contestant lists (including Sires and Dams) for the Libby entries. They put a lot of work into formatting these lists. As I have time, I will be updating the captions to the pictures, where able. With Betsy's and Shirley's permission, I will be including these lists with my video. Betsy and ShirleyOK with you? As of this morning, here are the hits on the pictures: Libby 2000 Series 1 1869 Libby 2000 Series 2 1387 Libby 2000 Series 3 762 Libby 2000 Series 4 535 this album only became available at midnight, PDT, last night. Zagorska 308 This tells me that "someone" is enjoying the pictures. That makes my time spent worth while. All the best to all, Fred Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, WA USA
Re: forelock leading
This message is from: Mary Thurman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- Dave McWethy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: " Dave McWethy" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I'd like to add my bit to this. I think forelock > leading is a bad idea in > general. I keep seeing the word "grab". If you > pull too hard you pull the > forehead skin away from the skull. Dave, Probably misuse of a word here (grab). You do not GRAB the forelock and PULL - you simply take hold of the forelock and give a gentle tug, while asking them verbally to follow you. If you have to pull hard enough to pull the hair out, you're being too aggressive about it and any horse, Fjord or not, will PULL BACK to get away from that. I simply give a gentle tug, say 'come', and they come right along - if they have been taught to lead this way by 'transferring' the leading response from halter to forelock. A horse which has not been trained to lead with the forelock will not know what you want and will either stand there confused or pull back. Time to do a little 'retraining' if you wish to be able to lead this way. For some reason I find that forelock leading makes a calmer more 'submissive' horse - possibly because it requires a lowered head - than leading under the chin(which I used to use before I found out about forelock leading). Leading under the chin gives the opportunity for the horse to easily raise his head to escape from the handler - you must quickly put your hand on their nose to prevent this, which requires a quick movement, which leads to a quick movement on the part of the horse, which elevates the energy of the whole process. At least in my experience. To each his own. However, forelock leading SHOULD NOT lead to hair pulling or separation of the skin from the scalp!! A halter goes over one of the most vulnerable sets of nerves in a horse's neck, yet causes no injury if used properly on a horse trained to respond properly to its use. BUT it also can cause severe damage if used improperly on an untrained horse who is scared out of his wits - or just bull headed. How many of us have heard of or seen horses permanently damaged or even killed (by breaking their necks) when improperly tied with a halter before they are well schooled in the proper response to being tied? It's not a good > way to lead a horse that > is resisting. Absolutely true. That's why I recommended 'transferring' the leading response gradually from halter to forelock. A horse needs to be trained to lead by the forelock, the same way he needs to be trained to lead with a halter. > Try it on yourself - would you like to be led with > someone pulling your hair > or by a hand under your chin? Sure wouldn't like my hair pulled by someone being too agressive or too lazy to train me properly to what he/she wants. On the other hand, some horses are very 'mouthy' or nippy and are a pain to lead under the chin. Seems to make them more nippy in some cases. If they are nippy, as some Fjords can be, try the forelock. Either way, it's nice to KNOW you can lead your horse away from a situation and back to the safety of the pasture or barn WITHOUT having to find a halter and leadrope, catch the horse, put said halter and rope on the horse, before being able to lead them. Keeps both horse and handler much calmer. Mary = Mary Thurman Raintree Farms [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/
Re: Libby 2000
This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 04:30 PM 9/18/00 -0700, you wrote: We also have a sire-dam pedigree list for pre-entries, but not for ones who entered at the show. Love your efforts and pictures, thanks so much. You can probably get most of them on the NFHR pedigree search. Look here: http://www.nfhr.com/ponyweb/ Mike === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Registrar Voice 716-872-4114 FAX 716-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Libby 2000 series 4 is now available for viewing
This message is from: "Frederick J. \(Fred\) Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Series 4 is available. This is the final series of 188 pictures taken at Libby 2000. To view, click on http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=923588&a=8808754 It is midnight and I'm about to turn into a pumpkin. Fred Pack
Re: Rope Halters
This message is from: "Karen McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Saskia: The rope halters should be adjustable, if they are made correctly using the fiador knot, and one piece of rope. The ones I have are made from a very soft nylon rope, about 1/4" in diameter. When you first get them, you can wiggle the knots around to widen or narrow the nosepice area, also to adjust the length of cheek pieces. I was told how to do this by the lady that makes them for us. She lives just outside of Red Bluff, Ca. (BTW- I still have a few left for sale.) Once you use the halter for awhile, the knots tighten up and it is almost impossible to adjust them after that. So, see if you can play with the knots some...and hope you are feeling better, Karen Great Basin Fjords Carson City, NV *Franticlly getting ready for Turlock... :>} From: "saskia schoofs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: help on Sybrens head! Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 01:13:12 -0400 This message is from: "saskia schoofs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dearest friends, I have been silent again for a while (a long while), but you must know I have read everything and have carried your joys, difficulties and losses in my heart, wishing you all the best constantly. I have been and am very ill, so I can't promise to be a more active list member very soon, but I will as soon as I can. And am looking forward to that very much! :-))) But whenever I feel well, I try to ride a little bit on Sybren. He's really great, very calm and trusting and very willing to learn. The problem is: I use Kitty's rope halter and that doesn't fit him. So I wanted to order a new one, only, the lady who will make it for me lives in the USA and she needs me to measure him (his head) in inches. So I calculated my centimeters to inches and got: 12" around the nose 32" around the throat (behind the ears) Now she mailed me to express her surprize about these sizes. She says it sounds very small to her. So I wanted to ask you: can someone who's used to measure in inches tell me what his/her Fjords head is like? Sybren is a small size of Fjord. Thanks and happy Fjording! Saskia in Belgium (cold and very wet... again!) _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Libby 2000 Series 4
This message is from: "Frederick J. \(Fred\) Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Libby photo series 4 has been uploaded to PhotoPoint, but not processed by their server. Until processes by PhotoPoint, I can not move them to album series 4. Gotta hit the sack. I will check for proper processing by PhotoPoint in the morning, then move them to the album. Sorry for the delay, but had a million things to do/go wrong today. I'll post a message when the pictures are ready to view. Fatigued Fred
