National Show
This message is from: "carol" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Some place like Nebraska. As of next spring, Lincoln, Nebraska will have the newest and one of the best facilities for horse shows in the country. " Boy that sounds like a super place to have out first national Fjord Show and Fjord Expo. Need a lot of lead time to get people to plan on the trip. Maybe include other (little known breeds) to gather a bigger crowd. Carol Tacey Rhode Island
Seeking Fjords
This message is from: "mizgriz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have a request from someone looking for Fjords in the Fingerlakes area of New York. I'll forward any information that anyone wants to send me. Thanks!!! Dianna Saleh Fawn Creek Fjordhorses www.fawncreekfjords.com
Re: horses and me
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> My opinion is that since we don't know anything about this , this is not a topic to discuss on this list. Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska At 07:38 PM 10/27/2000 -0700, you wrote: >This message is from: Wanda M Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >I would like to everyone's opinion on the two messages that I forwarded >to the digest. > > >Thank you > >Wanda Hill > >YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! >Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! >Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: >http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
horses and me
This message is from: Wanda M Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I would like to everyone's opinion on the two messages that I forwarded to the digest. Thank you Wanda Hill YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.
Fw: Re: Horses
This message is from: Wanda M Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Forwarded message -- From: Wanda M Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 19:29:21 -0700 Subject: Re: Horses Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dear Betsy, Well, I assume that you must be a VEY poor judge of people, horses and a very poor business person. Of course, I have never meet you and this assumption might be way out line. Just like the assumption of, me, that you got from others. I feel sorry for people that feel like there are GOD have the right to JUDGE other. Thank you Wanda M Hill H. S. I. Instr. A.S. Horses scince Owner of 4-Beat Elite 12yrs Horse and Ridding Instr. 12yr Clinician 4-H Judge Barn Manger of 65 head YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.
Fw: Re: Horses
This message is from: Wanda M Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Forwarded message -- From: Wanda M Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 19:32:40 -0700 Subject: Fw: Re: Horses Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Forwarded message -- From: "Betsy Bauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Wanda M Hill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 12:12:47 -0700 Subject: Re: Horses Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sorry to say that because you are associated with Joel, many of us don't want to help you find a fjord. I am not saying that you personally would but we know that Joel hasn't "done right by fjords in the past". YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.
all expenses paid ? ; O
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 00-10-27 16:18:46 EDT, you write: << It wouldn't matter to me as an exhibitor where the national show was held, as an event of this magnitude would justify the travel and expenses. (Ok - I don't pay the expenses -Howard and Sophie do - but I could justify the cost to them.) >> I agree Pat. As long as Howard and Sophie paid MY expenses to the National Show, I will attend, no matter WHERE they hold it.( ducking ) Lisa Pedersen Cedar City, UTAH * cold tonight, local snow in the mountians..deer hunters are wining ! RUN BAMBI RUN !
Re: Quote from Patty
This message is from: "Karen McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> This message is from: "Patty Bronson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> QUOTE OF THE WEEK "Compost: Because a rind is a terrible thing to waste." SORRY couldn't resist! Patty, I have a T-shirt that has this on it...my sister is big into bio-dynamic (french intensive) gardening and she passed them out to all her loved ones... I really like wearing it, especially at work. I work for the "enemy" of composting, at a very large landscape design/build/maintenance company. Karen _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
conflicting dates
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 00-10-27 16:18:46 EDT, you write: << Beth,call them, go see them.We need a photographer, Beth...get a local one and a good announcer. We need food service, ..BethWe need the running people, Beth can find a local group that will be runners. Now Beth and Sandy are very busy - formatting the facilities. >> Oh good. Now that we have chosen Beth and Sandy to " gopher " this National Show, I second Co. as a good central spot for it to be held. ( Close to UTAH. ) More importantly, please lets pick a time of year thats not too close to our Woodstock, Blue Earth, Libby and Turlock shows. We have gone to 3 out of 4, but only 2 at one year, due to the close dates that they have their shows. I know that several are offered at a set time due to fair or event sponsership, BUT maybe, so that we get a large offering of folks without breaking the backs of the other already established shows, we could have it in the spring, or early summer. If we did June, for example, we would have shows in June, July, Aug. and Sep. Works out well dosnt it ? ; ) June is nice in Co. I hear. " OH BETH.SANDY.! "
National show
This message is from: "Janne Myrdal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have lurked in the shadows for months, but thought I'd put a couple of cents worth into this great discussion on a natioanl show. Nebraska has my vote, as it would be great for those of us in the upper midwest. Selfish, eh?/ Plus it sounds like a great facility. Also, Catherine, the reason some of us did not greet your idea earlier I believe is not for lack of interest, but rather a great realization of the work involved and therefore maybe a hesitance to speak out. I have been part of organizing many large events, tho not equine ones, and know well the time, blood, sweat and tears in takes. I think MANY, IF NOT ALL of us would dearly welcome a national show, even if bi-annual, and would put whatever effort into it it would require. To me it all depends on what "season" of life you are in, for my part is in raising little kids on a busy farm and it seems to eat up my time, anyone else out there know the feeling, busy tho blessed times!??. I sold my two geldings this spring, one I will miss forever, because I did not have the time he deserved, and so it goes. Anyway, I would absolutely attend and probably even bring horses to a national event if it happened, so go for it and wait for me to get my kids in school, then I hope to have time to help out :) ha, - I can hear some of you soccer moms, basketball moms, foorball moms laughing!! Fy!! Janne in cold and wet ND, but with the cutest fjord filly born in the US this year right outside the window.!! :)
Re: National Show
This message is from: "SUSAN L GIARGIARI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello List! Like what is being said about a National Show. You build it, and we certainly will come! No matter where it is. Dave McWethy, I am sure will come, and that would be one 4 In Hand! I think that once a place is picked, it should stay there, so it could be improved upon each year. What if we started out with having it every two years? That would maybe help it also. What if some of the Regional Shows just took place every two years so that they happened on the years that the National Show didn't. We could hold Evaluations on the year of the National Show at the different Regional places. Instead of trying to hold a show and an Evaluation at the same time. What an opportunity for the Evaluation judges and trainees to see a whole lot of fjords together at one time. The halter classes at the national show could be judged using the Fjord Standard. Not one at a time, but using the standard. Some of the judges do this anyways. Karen Cabic did at the NY show and Karen Maas did at the VT show. Just a thought! Now Peg! I have to explain something to you!!! Yes, you do need to get geldings evaluated. They are half of what our mares and Stallions are producing. What if a certain stallion produced mostly geldings compared to how many mares he produced. And all the mares were OK, just OK. If the geldings were not OK, no one would ever know. And that Stallion would keep right on breeding mediocre stock. A breeder needs to know the faults of all his offspring. If Erland only produced mostly colts, and the people never got them evaluated, you could never get his offspring awards or it would sure take a lot longer. The geldings and the folks who buy them from the breeders are the most important people to a breeder. They also become friends, as all who buy your stock usually do! We have wonderful relationships with most of the folks who have bought stock from us, they become life long friends. After all, they love fjords too! The geldings are a very important part of the Evaluation System. No, they can't reproduce, but they are the results of at least half of what you are producing. If you think of the Evaluation as a place to show your geldings, if you love to show anyways, it is alot of fun, and educational experience, kind of like a weekend of clinics. You learn your faults and some folks even learn what their farriers are doing wrong to their horses and how some faults can be corrected with the right trimming on the youngstock. Very important stuff! Here is a neat challenge to everyone on the list. Take a tape measure out to the barn. Measure the length of the foot from the coronary band to the end of the toe. See if the two front measurements are the same. Do the hind feet also. They should be equal to each other, not that the front should equal the back. Front and hind feet are shaped differently. Now, how high are the heels. Measure the front heels to each other, or even by eyeing them you can see if they are the same. Do the back feet also. Is your frog nice and big and having contact with the ground or does the farrier hack it off. It is a pump for blood circulation to the feet. If it doesn't hit the ground with each step, it doesn't pump. If the heels are too high, usually the feet are too steep. This can lead to a club foot. Club feet can be produced by improper trimming and shoeing. We have seen this. Are your horses feet left as large as they can be to carry the weight of the horse. As large as they can be, doesn't mean long in the toe. Some fjords just have smaller feet than they should. If the heels on these guys are left too long, the feet are tiny and steep. Steep in the front of the foot, meaning the angle of the pastern, which should match the angle of the foot, doesn't match. Should be an even line. Check this out on your horses feet. The front and back angles are different though. If you have an angle tool, check to see if the angles are the same in the two front feet. In the two back feet. If you don't have a tool, use two sticks or pencils. Put one along the bottom of the foot and one along the front plane. (from the tip of the toe to the coronary band). Keep them at the same angle and mark it down on a paper, the two lines. Now, do the other foot. Is the measurement from one end of the pencil to the other end (the open angle) the same for each front foot and the same for each back foot. If not, you need to have a talk with your farrier. Ok now! I will give it a rest! Good evening to you all! Sue g.
Tyr is for sale
This message is from: Mike & Casey Rogillio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> It is with great regret that I offer Tyr for sale. I'd promised myself a year + ago that I'd give him time, that I'd ride him, that surely he would get more forward and not be slow. I believe someone on the list said it a year ago, "maybe it would be best if you sold him". He's carried me well thru the St. Jude's ride, as well as at Bankhead National Forest, up and down those silly terraces they built at the creek, thru the cotton fields close to my house, but he and I are just not working out. He's quite sure-footed, not a silly star-gazer. He's 5 years old, a gelding, and I'm offering him for $3500; you can go to Dreamhorse, Horseclassifieds, or Betsy Bauer's site to access more information on him. Part of me really hates to do this, I feel as if my dream of owing a Fjord is lost; and part of me knows it's the right thing to do - that I'll be able to get a different Fjord, one better suited for me, later. I'm located in North Alabama, close to Huntsville. If you need any further information, please contact Betsy Bauer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) or myself ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). Casey and Tyr
Re: Quote
This message is from: "MoonWise" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> And a waist is a terrible thing to mind, Patty. ;) > > QUOTE OF THE WEEK > > "Compost: Because a rind is a terrible thing to waste." > > SORRY couldn't resist! > >
Congratulations, shameless ad, Oda's visit
This message is from: "Knutsen Fjord Farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi all - Doug and I want to congratulate Fred and Lois Pack on their recent purchase of KFF Vilhelmine [aka silly Willie filly]. Willie, the first Erlend foal on this coast, will go home with them in a few weeks, after she is weaned. We know they will treat her with the abject adulation to which she is accustomed, and will allow us to visit now and then. I will be visiting Julie Will when they pick up Willie, so I will be spared the trauma of seeing her drive off [literally] into the sunset. Sigh Pepper, our coming 3 filly by Leidjo, and Sonny, our coming 2 gelding by Rusten, are still happily running around, unaware that they are also for sale - to the right homes, of course. See our web site, http://www.eburg.com/~kffjord/ , for details. We have also come to the difficult decision to offer our foundation broodmare, Anvil's Silka, for sale. We feel the need to do this in order to see our way clear to buying a filly [hopefully grey] in Norway this spring. Silka is a marvelous broodmare, having produced 4 fine foals for us, and more before that at Anvil Acres. Silka's first 2 babies at our farm, Rocky and Pepper, earned Reds in conformation at the NFHR Evaluation in Eugene. Rocky was 15 months old, and Pepper, 3 months old at that time. Sonny will not be Evaluated, since he is gelded, but I believe Willie will do well when/if the Packs take her to be Evaluated. We gave Silka a well-earned rest this year, but will repeat the breeding to Erlend in the spring, and offer her in foal. She is 14, and the boss hoss around here. One caveat - she likes to be sung to in the evenings just before she foals. We just said goodbye to Oda Muench and her husband who are on their way to the Jensens'. We had a very enjoyable, if brief, visit with them, and look forward to seeing Oda in Nordfjordheid this spring. They are very nice folks! I met them last spring, but I want to say that the common ground we share because of this Digest helped us feel like old acquaintances right away. Thanks again, Steve! Bye for now - Peg Knutsen
