Auctions ???
This message is from: Donna Tauscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello List , Is anyone aware of any horse drawn vehicle auctions occurring in the western US ( WY , MT , OR , WA , ID ) any time soon . I might like to haul a carriage and harness to one . Thanks , Donna in SE Montana cold temps and blowing snow today - BR !!! ( and SOME PEOPLE are in Hawaii -harumph !!! G)
Re: Trailering Do's and Don'ts and Luisa's Death ..
This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cheryl, This is what you sent when Luisa died. It was very much appreciated. I saved all the messages...with the intent of replying to allbut life goes on and is crazy. My office floor is completely littered, and the desk between one and six inches high (avg depth about 2.5 inches). And taxes to do. Talk more laterI'm up late...have to work with workman on the perimeter fence tomorrow am...then on road at 2pm to Modoc. That is ONE NICE FILLY you have. Gail At 05:47 PM 9/7/2000 -0500, you wrote: This message is from: Cheryl Beillard [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK Gail .. that did it. I didn't send any messages of condolence when I read the first few messages telling of Luisa's tragic death -- although they certainly hit home. But I read this last, very thoughtful note and finished in tears. There could be no more clear depiction of Luisa's suffering and yours. You deserve big hugs from all of us, many who may have made the same mistakes and whose mistakes you now may have prevented. Good for you, to be big enough to publicly acknowledge those mistakes .. you are to be forgiven for whatever you did, unwittingly, just make sure you forgive yourself. You obviously cared deeply for your horse and I'm sure all of us can imagine what you felt in watching your horse suffer through those last terrible hours. I am SO sorry. Thank you for sharing these very hard earned lessons with us. Gail Russell Forestville CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
More Fairbanks Winter pictures
This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] After sending the message about the BLM web cam, I saw this picture on the website: not a Fjord but a Horse anyway, Fairbanks view! http://aurora.ak.blm.gov/local/snowmount.htm Check out the pictures in the archives! http://aurora.ak.blm.gov/local/archive.htm Anybody else have Web cams in their areas? It would be fun to see pictures of areas where Fjord folk live! Jean in frosty Fairbanks, Alaska Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
See Fairbanks, Alaska: BLM web cam
This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Fjord friends, Have you been waondering what it is like around Fairbanks when I give the weather, etc? Wanna see the snow, the spruce trees, the temperature at the moment? Well, check out The Live Camera at the Fairbanks, Alaska BLM offices! I just learned about this today and thought I'd share: http://aurora.ak.blm.gov/live.html NOW you can see what our Fjords up here have to deal with as far as weather, etc. Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, another sunny day, and the moon is shining on the snow right now. Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
re: zooming home
This message is from: BETH ANN SWONGER [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello All, I'm the lurker from North East Ohio where the Lake effect smow hit this morning and was gone by night. My Aunt had a Tenn. Walker and the only place we could get her to flat out run was along the fence line on the west side of the barn. This wasnt' the barn door side either. In my opinion if you want to feel the effect of a flat out run is watch the movieReturn to Snowy River (GREAT AUSSIE WESTERN!!!). I always get goose bumps when the character Jim is riding the big black in the chase to save his herd. Now there's a great movie for the nights you get snowed in. Beth Ann Swonger Swonger's Dusty Oaks Middlefield, Ohio Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/webmail
Re: Zoooming home...
This message is from: Karen McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...and his fear could easily be compounded by being pulled off balance. Gail Gail, my fear would be compounded as well! :) Don't get me wrong about your fellow who has been working with Gunthar. In the right hands/situation riding it out can be a good thing, but i would never put it at the top of my list of reccomendations for the un-initiated! No,if you go that route you REALLY have to have it together to know how to deal with it, anything less is suicidal. IMO, doing all sorts of ground flat (arena roundpen) work ad nauseum, then setting up the situation ( to strenghen and test the training) in the right venue, is my tactic. This takes T-I-M-E and miles, the most precious ingredient of all. Be safe. Karen _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Story Books
This message is from: Sharon Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Found the book through amazon.com. There are 6 more copies. Sharon
Re: Zoooming home...
This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 07:49 PM 11/15/2000 GMT, you wrote: This message is from: Karen McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, I have had my share of runaways, and no, I will not run them out on purpose (i.e. encourage them to keep on going 'til they tire). I don't think he meant to encourage him to run til tired. Yes, I will circle them up in a calm manner if I can, as much to not unbalance them and keep things together as for anything else. If they are in a dead, blind run, and it is unsafe to circle them, then let 'em go, but sit deep and be centered until you can circle them. I think this may have been his point. Gunthar is not superbly balanced (just from his conformation) anyway, and his fear could easily be compounded by being pulled off balance. Gail Russell Forestville CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fjord illustrations
This message is from: Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Martha: There is an author/illustrator named Jan Brett - her children's books are wonderful. The illustrations are very special. All of her books are actually two stories. The main one, then in the borders of each page is another illustrated story, usually from the animals point of view. Occasionally she uses Fjords. I still collect her books - I discovered them when my children were reading-to ages. I almost had a third child just so I could justify buying the books. It didn't take long to come to my senses though. By the way how's Hedda her daughter? Pat Holland
Re: Zoooming home...
This message is from: Karen McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I would never ever in a hundred thousand years recommend letting a scared horse have his head and run... Pamela, I am in YOUR BARN on this one. We're talking about a distinct lack of whoa here, something that was either bypassed earlier in the horse's training (or lack of), and/or the matter is compounded due to flat out mental problems. (Yes, folks, there are a few, mentally unstable fjords out there, sorry to say.) I live in some pretty wide open country, sand/sagebrush/rocks etc. Yes, I have had my share of runaways, and no, I will not run them out on purpose (i.e. encourage them to keep on going 'til they tire). Yes, I will circle them up in a calm manner if I can, as much to not unbalance them and keep things together as for anything else. If they are in a dead, blind run, and it is unsafe to circle them, then let 'em go, but sit deep and be centered until you can circle them. If you are riding out with company and one horse squirts away into a runaway, don't run the non-runaway horse up to the other in hopes of catching up to it, but try to keep it as much at the scene of the crime as is possible, remain calm, and allow the runaway to circle back to you. It goes without saying, but should be added, as we have a tendency to over-react in these situations: remain calm. You will be more relaxed and in control, and less likely to crash and burn. I really reccomend a book by Colorado clinician Marty Martin. Can't remember the title, but it is newly published by Western Horseman, in their series on horse training books. If there was ONE book I could reccomend to people newly starting out with horses, or becoming re-acquainted with them after awhile, this is the one! It is thoroughly grounded in common sense and SAFETY. It is as important as buying that helmet.. Karen (no snow, just deep crusty crud flat grey skies) _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: Zoooming home...
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 11/15/00 9:17:50 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Bryan Neubert disciple who took Gunthar in for rehab made a point of saying that you SHOULD NOT (if at all possible) pull in a horse that is running scared (not sure this applies to Rafael in this case) to let them know they can goand just follow them softly, I dunno about this. Maybe a hundred years ago, when there were more wide open spaces, and no automobiles this may have been a valid way of doing things. But with civilization encroaching, cars, trucks, barbed wire fences, other dangers, I don't think letting a horse run wild is ever a good idea. To me, a better idea is to get your horse used to these things before you take them riding on a trail. Maybe walking them or ponying them with a more settled horse till he learns? Or making certain you have conquered trust issues before you go out there? I would never ever in a hundred thousand years recommend letting a scared horse have his head and run. Or even a stubborn barn sour horse. Plus, usually there are signs that a horse is nervous. I'd deal with him when he begins showing signs instead of giving him the idea that he could EVER run off with me. JMO, but it works for me! Pamela
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2000 #295
This message is from: Sue Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi everyone from N.B. where it never stops raining. Karen:Please send some snow, some snow for Christmas so I can build a big snowman.. It has rained it seems for the past month. The paddock has sticky oozy mud outside the barn door that sucks on my boots almost going over the tops! Over 40 above and water, water everywhere. I am so sick of rain...and when it does freeze the paddocks will be a skating rink I am sure! To make matters worse our artesian well overflows into the horse tub and is constantly overflowing into the paddock...It's great in dry weather when we don't have to lug water but this is going too far. If only it would snow! Rain...yuk yuk yuk. I think I will throw a tantrum anytime now. My poor horses...not a dry spot anywhere. I leave the barndoor open for them to go inside but they are mud from one end to the other. At least they get dried off at night when we put them in the barn. They say there is no Elnino this year...but what the heck is this? We live in New Brunswick where it is supposed to be cold and snow at this time of year. I certainly love the warm weather but this...oh I could go on and on. Wa. There, now that I have that out of my system (temperarily) you guys talking about your wonderful horse showsand me so far away from all of you ... I am drooling with envy. Noone around here has a Fjordno one.. *sigh* ...All alone am I. Anyway, Karen if you could send me some snow. oh yes also some cooler weather to keep itHere I go again I think I need a coffee...maybe something stronger Cheechhhg. Cheer me up someone. Sue in N.B. (Desert Storm's mom)
Re: Zoooming home...
This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL [EMAIL PROTECTED] I agree. However Jack's method of going with Rafael's flow seems to work well. Rafael settles down right away when Jack talks to him in a calm yet firm manner. Also, what Jack calls a gallop is really a fast trot/canter. Now when we first started riding them, it WAS a scary mad dash. We definitely didn't allow that! Now, the more we ride them to the park on the trails, the slower the trip home is. I do encourage Tommes to move out AWAY from home as you suggested. That way we can enjoy the faster gaits without encouraging them to run for the barn. The Bryan Neubert disciple who took Gunthar in for rehab made a point of saying that you SHOULD NOT (if at all possible) pull in a horse that is running scared (not sure this applies to Rafael in this case) to let them know they can goand just follow them softly, (he recommendeds a *suede* seated Jeremiah Watt stock saddle...deep seet to help me fend of the clutchies)...then bend them gently. His point was that they have to think they can do what they need to do to take care of themselves...once they've taken off. I think I understood him correctly...have to get more clarification with him next spring. He is off to Texas to start fancy cutting horses with Bryan this winter. Gail Russell Forestville CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Office Closed
This message is from: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 10:07 AM 11/15/00 -0500, you wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike, Sounds like a wonderful trip. You're making the rounds of ALL the islands? Have you gone to Kauai yet? We are going there next. We will be on 3 of them. Well 4 if you count our stop in the Honolulu airport. Or are you going to go there? There are a couple great stables in Princeville that offer either rides or wagon trips out into the hills for a wonderful barbecue. If you're heading that way and want the info, let me know. Sounds wonderful but I am afraid most all of our time is already planned out. Thanks anyway. Mike 1stUp.com - Free the Web Get your free Internet access at http://www.1stUp.com
Re: Performance Evaluation Seminar
This message is from: Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Seminar in Cincinnati was great. The NFHR, the Evaluation Committee and Wayne Hipsley are to be commended for their support, enthusiasm and hard work. Especially to Anne Appleby and Tom Hans. It was encouraging to see the interest by the Auditors and to realize how many people are in this together with the same goals and dreams. As a trainee - I was surprised to see how important the form to function (that Wayne has been drilling into us) truly is. Correct conformation will lead to an athlete. It was also interesting to see the difference of movement with some horses when ridden and then driven. Some showed dramatic change. As a rider do we interfere? ---or -- when we drive is it more difficult to engage our horses. Wayne showed some great footage of stallions in Norway at liberty. It was interesting to see how different horses of the same breed can move - and boy was there a difference! There is a vast education in all the videos with Wayne's narration - Pat Holland
Re: Zoooming home...
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 11/14/00 5:26:19 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's a good idea to trot or canter while traveling AWAY from his home, then a slow trot or walk the last half TOWARD home. It could get to be a dangerous situation, if they learn they can gallop home every time! Yikes. Now, THEN I'd be scared! Hi Ingrid- I agree. However Jack's method of going with Rafael's flow seems to work well. Rafael settles down right away when Jack talks to him in a calm yet firm manner. Also, what Jack calls a gallop is really a fast trot/canter. Now when we first started riding them, it WAS a scary mad dash. We definitely didn't allow that! Now, the more we ride them to the park on the trails, the slower the trip home is. I do encourage Tommes to move out AWAY from home as you suggested. That way we can enjoy the faster gaits without encouraging them to run for the barn. Brigid, the better half of Jack : )
Re: Office Closed
This message is from: Starfire Farm, LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am now on Maui in a nice Condo just north of Lihana right on the ocean. It is a beautiful night, the door is open on the ocean front and I can hear the surf. It is about 75 deg or so I would say. This is about 8:20 pm. Mike H, It appears our registrar has a bit of a mean streak, and he seemed like such a nice guy ! =)) Ruthie, in the northwest deepfreeze of Montana Ditto! Frozen ground and snowing here. To quote Lisa P., Wa! Beth -- Beth Beymer Sandy North Starfire Farm, Berthoud CO http://www.starfirefarm.com
Re: story books
This message is from: Martha Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for the book info-it sounds really neat. I've already told my mom that she needs to write a children's book with fjords in it. (She's always wanted to write a kids book) By the way, I think we've met before at various fjord events around the Madison area. You have Jock, right? We live in Mt. Horeb with our mare Hedda and her filly, Heldig. Sure wish we could get some snow like they have out west. It seems like winter just isn't like it used to be. My 2 y.o. daughter wakes up every morning to see if there's any no on the ground. She had a blast shoveling the .01 we got the other day. Take care, Martha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Martha: I have a children's book that I have had for many years-way before I even knew what a Fjordhorse was. It's called The Terrible Troll Bird-written and illustrated by Ingri and edgar Parin d'Aulaire. The story is about a brother, Ola and his sisters, Lina Sina, and Trina, who along with thier Fjordhorse, Blaaken, defeat the gigantic troll bird in Norway. The illustrations are lithographs and are beautiful. Ingri had grown up in Norway-her and her husband both studied art in Europe and later moved to the U.S. I have never seen this book for sale, but I have seen others by these authors in Norwegian gift shops. This book of course took on new meaning to me after I became the owner of a Fjordhorse. I love the way the authors have Blaaken following behind the children as they go to the woods for firewood and after seeing the troll bird they flee for home with blaaken first! I had to laugh! That's my Fjord too! The book was published by Doubleday back in 1976. Hope you find a copy! By the way, where are you in so. Wi? I live in Milw.Joni
Re: Office Closed
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike, Sounds like a wonderful trip. You're making the rounds of ALL the islands? Have you gone to Kauai yet? Or are you going to go there? There are a couple great stables in Princeville that offer either rides or wagon trips out into the hills for a wonderful barbecue. If you're heading that way and want the info, let me know. Meantime, Aloha Pamela
Re: Office Closed
This message is from: Bushnell's [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am now on Maui in a nice Condo just north of Lihana right on the ocean. It is a beautiful night, the door is open on the ocean front and I can hear the surf. It is about 75 deg or so I would say. This is about 8:20 pm. Mike H, It appears our registrar has a bit of a mean streak, and he seemed like such a nice guy ! =)) Ruthie, in the northwest deepfreeze of Montana
Re: Zoooming home...
This message is from: carol j makosky [EMAIL PROTECTED] linda hickam wrote: This message is from: linda hickam [EMAIL PROTECTED] I agree..being on a runaway, hell bent for home ,is really scary. Hi from Carol in finally winter in WI, but still not much snow. You should never let your horse run back to the barn. I also make it a practice to go past my drive on the way home. If Heidi seems especially anxious to get home, I go way past my drive and then turn around and go past it the other way. Basic horse sense is to never let your horse be the boss and decide what they want to do. -- Built FJORD tough Carol M. On Golden Pond Northern Wisconsin
Re: Office Closed...
This message is from: Karen McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am now on Maui a beautiful night, the door is open on the ocean front and I can hear the surf. It is about 75 deg or so Mike Gee thanks for the report Mike! BTW: right now, some of us have to deal with getting up in sheer toe stubbing blackness, 8 deg out, frost on frost on top of 17 of crusty snow, 2 layers of long underwear inside of coveralls, racing into work surrounded by suicidal SUV driving gerbils, all of us listening with drooping lips to the radio's unbroken rant about hanging chads and dashed hopesat the same time trying to listen to the little voice asking, ummm, is that black ice out there?? .now, would you please leave us alone get on with your vacation? I would suggest you retire your laptop to the soothing cocoon of the hotel safe for the remainder of your sojurn. Night! Click. Karen, Carson City, NV (THE state cap.) ...feeling a little too bushy-eyed at this late hour; damn caffiene anyway! _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: Office Closed
This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am now on Maui in a nice Condo just north of Lihana right on the ocean. It is a beautiful night, the door is open on the ocean front and I can hear the surf. It is about 75 deg or so I would say. This is about 8:20 pm. Mike OK, Mike, quit! Do you have to rub it in? LOL Jean in balmy (for this time of year) Fairbanks, Alaska, presently 12 degrees and moonlight on the snow. Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]