Auctions ???

2000-11-15 Thread Donna Tauscher
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Hello List ,

Is anyone aware of any horse drawn vehicle auctions occurring in the
western US ( WY , MT , OR , WA , ID ) any time soon . I might like to
haul a carriage and harness to one .

Thanks ,

Donna in SE Montana

cold temps and blowing snow today - BR !!!
( and SOME PEOPLE are in  Hawaii -harumph !!!  G)





Re: Trailering Do's and Don'ts and Luisa's Death ..

2000-11-15 Thread GAIL RUSSELL
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Cheryl,  This is what you sent when Luisa died.  It was very much
appreciated.  I saved all the messages...with the intent of replying to
allbut life goes on and is crazy.  My office floor is completely
littered, and the desk between one and six inches high (avg depth about 2.5
inches).  And taxes to do.  Talk more laterI'm up late...have to work
with workman on the perimeter fence tomorrow am...then on road at 2pm to
Modoc.  That is ONE NICE FILLY you have.

Gail

At 05:47 PM 9/7/2000 -0500, you wrote:
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OK Gail .. that did it.  I didn't send any messages of condolence when I
read the first few messages telling of Luisa's tragic death -- although they
certainly hit home.   But I read this last, very thoughtful note and
finished in tears.  There could be no more clear depiction of Luisa's
suffering and yours.  You deserve big hugs from all of us, many who may have
made the same mistakes and whose mistakes you now may have prevented.  Good
for you, to be big enough to publicly acknowledge those mistakes .. you are
to be forgiven for whatever you did, unwittingly, just make sure you forgive
yourself.  You obviously cared deeply for your horse and I'm sure all of us
can imagine  what you felt in watching your horse suffer through those last
terrible hours.  I am SO sorry.  Thank you for sharing these very hard
earned lessons with us.



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Forestville CA
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More Fairbanks Winter pictures

2000-11-15 Thread Jean Ernest
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After sending the message about the BLM web cam, I saw this picture on the
website: not a Fjord but a Horse anyway, Fairbanks view!

http://aurora.ak.blm.gov/local/snowmount.htm

Check out the pictures in the archives!
http://aurora.ak.blm.gov/local/archive.htm

Anybody else have Web cams in their areas?  It would be fun to see pictures
of areas where Fjord folk live!

Jean in frosty Fairbanks, Alaska

Jean Ernest
Fairbanks, Alaska
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See Fairbanks, Alaska: BLM web cam

2000-11-15 Thread Jean Ernest
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Hi Fjord friends,

Have you been waondering what it is like around Fairbanks when I give the
weather, etc?  Wanna see the snow, the spruce trees, the temperature at the
moment?  Well, check out The Live Camera at the Fairbanks, Alaska BLM
offices!  I just learned about this today and thought I'd share:
http://aurora.ak.blm.gov/live.html

NOW you can see what our Fjords up here have to deal with as far as
weather, etc.

Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, another sunny day, and the moon is shining on
the snow right now.

Jean Ernest
Fairbanks, Alaska
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re: zooming home

2000-11-15 Thread BETH ANN SWONGER
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Hello All,
   I'm the lurker from North East Ohio where the Lake effect smow hit this
morning and was gone by night. My Aunt had a Tenn. Walker and the only place
we could get her to flat out run was along the fence line on the west side of
the barn. This wasnt' the barn door side either. In my opinion if you want to
feel the effect of a flat out run is watch the movieReturn to Snowy River
(GREAT AUSSIE WESTERN!!!). I always get goose bumps when the character Jim is
riding the big black in the chase to save his herd. Now there's a great movie
for the nights you get snowed in.


  Beth Ann Swonger
  Swonger's Dusty Oaks
  Middlefield, Ohio


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Re: Zoooming home...

2000-11-15 Thread Karen McCarthy

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...and his fear could easily be compounded by being pulled off balance.
Gail

Gail, my fear would be compounded as well! :)
Don't get me wrong about your fellow who has been working with Gunthar. In 
the right hands/situation riding it out can be a good thing, but i would 
never put it at the top of my list of reccomendations for the un-initiated!  
 No,if you go that route you REALLY have to have it together to know how to 
deal with it, anything less is suicidal.
IMO, doing all sorts of ground  flat (arena  roundpen) work ad nauseum, 
then setting up the situation ( to strenghen and test the training) in the 
right venue, is my tactic.

This takes T-I-M-E and miles, the most precious ingredient of all.

Be safe.
Karen


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Story Books

2000-11-15 Thread Sharon Johnson
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Found the book through amazon.com.  There are 6 more copies.
Sharon





Re: Zoooming home...

2000-11-15 Thread GAIL RUSSELL
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At 07:49 PM 11/15/2000 GMT, you wrote:
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Yes, I 
have had my share of runaways, and no, I will not run them out on purpose 
(i.e. encourage them to keep on going 'til they tire). 

I don't think he meant to encourage him to run til tired.

Yes, I will circle 
them up in a calm manner if I can, as much to not unbalance them and keep 
things together as for anything else. If they are in a dead, blind run, and 
it is unsafe to circle them, then let 'em go, but sit deep and be centered 
until you can circle them.

I think this may have been his point.  Gunthar is not superbly balanced
(just from his conformation) anyway, and his fear could easily be compounded
by being pulled off balance.
Gail Russell
Forestville CA
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Re: Fjord illustrations

2000-11-15 Thread Pat
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Martha:

There is an author/illustrator named Jan Brett - her children's books are 
wonderful. The
illustrations are very special. All of her books are actually two stories. The 
main one,
then in the borders of each page is another illustrated story, usually from the 
animals
point of view. Occasionally she uses Fjords. I still collect her books -  I 
discovered
them when my children were reading-to ages. I almost had a third child just 
so I could
justify buying the books. It didn't take long to come to my senses though.

By the way how's Hedda  her daughter?

Pat Holland





Re: Zoooming home...

2000-11-15 Thread Karen McCarthy

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I would never ever in a hundred thousand years recommend letting a scared 
horse have his head and run...


Pamela, I am in YOUR BARN on this one.
We're talking about a distinct lack of whoa here, something that was 
either bypassed earlier in the horse's training (or lack of), and/or the 
matter is compounded due to flat out mental problems. (Yes, folks, there are 
a few, mentally unstable fjords out there, sorry to say.)
I live in some pretty wide open country, sand/sagebrush/rocks etc. Yes, I 
have had my share of runaways, and no, I will not run them out on purpose 
(i.e. encourage them to keep on going 'til they tire). Yes, I will circle 
them up in a calm manner if I can, as much to not unbalance them and keep 
things together as for anything else. If they are in a dead, blind run, and 
it is unsafe to circle them, then let 'em go, but sit deep and be centered 
until you can circle them.
If you are riding out with company and one horse squirts away into a 
runaway, don't run the non-runaway horse up to the other in hopes of 
catching up to it, but try to keep it as much at the scene of the crime as 
is possible, remain calm, and allow the runaway to circle back to you.
It goes without saying, but should be added, as we have a tendency to 
over-react in these situations: remain calm. You will be more relaxed and in 
control, and less likely to crash and burn.
I really reccomend a book by Colorado clinician Marty Martin. Can't remember 
the title, but it is newly published by Western Horseman, in their series on 
horse training books. If there was ONE book I could reccomend to people 
newly starting out with horses, or becoming re-acquainted with them after 
awhile, this is the one! It is thoroughly grounded in common sense and 
SAFETY. It is as important as buying that helmet..

 Karen
(no snow, just deep crusty crud  flat grey skies)
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Re: Zoooming home...

2000-11-15 Thread Northhorse
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In a message dated 11/15/00 9:17:50 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 The Bryan Neubert disciple who took Gunthar in for rehab made a point of
 saying that you SHOULD NOT   (if at all possible) pull in a horse that is
 running scared (not sure this applies to Rafael in this case) to let
 them know they can goand just follow them softly, 

I dunno about this.  Maybe a hundred years ago, when there were more wide 
open spaces, and no automobiles this may have been a valid way of doing 
things.  But with civilization encroaching, cars, trucks, barbed wire fences, 
other dangers, I don't think letting a horse run wild is ever a good idea.  
To me, a better idea is to get your horse used to these things before you 
take them riding on a trail.  Maybe walking them or ponying them with a more 
settled horse till he learns?  Or making certain you have conquered trust 
issues before you go out there?  I would never ever in a hundred thousand 
years recommend letting a scared horse have his head and run.  Or even a 
stubborn barn sour horse.  Plus, usually there are signs that a horse is 
nervous.  I'd deal with him when he begins showing signs instead of giving 
him the idea that he could EVER run off with me.  JMO, but it works for me!

Pamela



Re: fjordhorse-digest V2000 #295

2000-11-15 Thread Sue Harrison
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Hi everyone from N.B. where it never stops raining.
Karen:Please send some snow, some snow for Christmas so I can build a
big snowman.. It has rained it seems for the past month.  The paddock
has sticky oozy mud outside the barn door that sucks on my boots almost
going over the tops!  Over 40 above and  water, water everywhere.  I am so
sick of rain...and when it does freeze the paddocks will be a skating rink I
am sure!  To make matters worse our artesian well overflows into the horse
tub and is constantly overflowing into the paddock...It's great in dry
weather when we don't have to lug water but this is  going too far.  If only
it would snow! Rain...yuk yuk yuk.
I think I will throw a tantrum anytime now.  My poor horses...not a dry spot
anywhere.  I leave the barndoor open for them to go inside but they are mud
from one end to the other.  At least they get dried off at night when we put
them in the barn.  They say there is no Elnino this year...but what the heck
is this?  We live in New Brunswick where it is supposed to be cold and snow
at this time of year.  I certainly love the warm weather but this...oh I
could go on and on. Wa.
There, now that I have that out of my system (temperarily)  you guys talking
about your wonderful horse showsand me so far away from all of you ... I
am drooling with envy.  Noone around here has a Fjordno one.. *sigh*
...All alone am I.
Anyway, Karen if you could send me some snow. oh yes also some cooler
weather to keep itHere I go again I think I need a coffee...maybe
something stronger Cheechhhg.   Cheer me up someone.
Sue in N.B.  (Desert Storm's mom)




Re: Zoooming home...

2000-11-15 Thread GAIL RUSSELL
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I agree. However Jack's method of going with Rafael's flow seems to work 
well. Rafael settles down right away when Jack talks to him in a calm yet 
firm manner. Also, what Jack calls a gallop is really a fast trot/canter. Now 
when we first started riding them, it WAS a scary mad dash. We definitely 
didn't allow that! Now, the more we ride them to the park  on the trails, 
the slower the trip home is. I do encourage Tommes to move out AWAY from home 
as you suggested. That way we can enjoy the faster gaits without encouraging 
them to run for the barn.

The Bryan Neubert disciple who took Gunthar in for rehab made a point of
saying that you SHOULD NOT   (if at all possible) pull in a horse that is
running scared (not sure this applies to Rafael in this case) to let
them know they can goand just follow them softly, (he recommendeds a
*suede* seated Jeremiah Watt stock saddle...deep seet to help me fend of the
clutchies)...then bend them gently.  His point was that they have to think
they can do what they need to do to take care of themselves...once they've
taken off. I think I understood him correctly...have to get more
clarification with him next spring.  He is off to Texas to start fancy
cutting horses with Bryan this winter.
Gail Russell
Forestville CA
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Re: Office Closed

2000-11-15 Thread Mike May, Registrar NFHR

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At 10:07 AM 11/15/00 -0500, you wrote:

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Mike,
Sounds like a wonderful trip.  You're making the rounds of ALL the islands?
Have you gone to Kauai yet?


We are going there next.  We will be on 3 of them.  Well 4 if you count our 
stop in the Honolulu airport.



Or are you going to go there?  There are a
couple great stables in Princeville that offer either rides or wagon trips
out into the hills for a wonderful barbecue.  If you're heading that way and
want the info, let me know.


Sounds wonderful but I am afraid most all of our time is already planned 
out.  Thanks anyway.


Mike





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Re: Performance Evaluation Seminar

2000-11-15 Thread Pat
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  The Seminar in Cincinnati was great. The NFHR, the Evaluation Committee and 
Wayne
Hipsley are to be commended for their support, enthusiasm and hard work. 
Especially to
Anne Appleby and Tom Hans.  It was encouraging to see the interest by the 
Auditors and to
realize how many people are in this together with the same goals and dreams.
As a trainee - I was surprised to see how important the form to function 
(that Wayne
has been drilling into us) truly is.  Correct conformation will lead to an 
athlete.  It
was also interesting to see the difference of movement with some horses when 
ridden and
then driven. Some showed dramatic change. As a rider do we interfere?  ---or -- 
when we
drive is it more difficult to engage our horses.
Wayne showed some great footage of stallions in Norway at liberty. It was 
interesting to
see how different horses of the same breed can move - and boy was there a 
difference!
There is a vast education in all the videos with Wayne's narration -
Pat Holland




Re: Zoooming home...

2000-11-15 Thread Epona1971
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In a message dated 11/14/00 5:26:19 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  It's a good idea to trot or canter while traveling AWAY from his home, 
then a
 slow trot or walk the last half TOWARD home. It could get to be a dangerous
 situation, if they learn they can gallop home every time! Yikes. Now, THEN 
I'd
 be scared! 

Hi Ingrid-

I agree. However Jack's method of going with Rafael's flow seems to work 
well. Rafael settles down right away when Jack talks to him in a calm yet 
firm manner. Also, what Jack calls a gallop is really a fast trot/canter. Now 
when we first started riding them, it WAS a scary mad dash. We definitely 
didn't allow that! Now, the more we ride them to the park  on the trails, 
the slower the trip home is. I do encourage Tommes to move out AWAY from home 
as you suggested. That way we can enjoy the faster gaits without encouraging 
them to run for the barn.

Brigid, the better half of Jack : )



Re: Office Closed

2000-11-15 Thread Starfire Farm, LLC
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 I am now on Maui in a nice Condo just
 north of Lihana right on the ocean.  It is a beautiful night, the door is
 open on the ocean front and I can hear the surf.  It is about 75 deg or so
 I would say.  This is about 8:20 pm.
 
 Mike
 

 H, It appears our registrar has a bit of a mean streak, and he
 seemed like such a nice guy !

 =)) Ruthie, in the northwest deepfreeze of Montana

Ditto!  Frozen ground and snowing here.  To quote Lisa P.,
Wa!

Beth


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Re: story books

2000-11-15 Thread Martha Martin
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Thanks for the book info-it sounds really neat.  I've already told my mom that
she needs to write a children's book with fjords in it.  (She's always wanted to
write a kids book)

By the way, I think we've met before at various fjord events around the Madison
area.  You have Jock, right?  We live in Mt. Horeb with our mare Hedda and her
filly, Heldig.

Sure wish we could get some snow like they have out west.  It seems like winter
just isn't like it used to be.  My 2 y.o. daughter wakes up every morning to see
if there's any  no on the ground.  She had a blast shoveling the .01 we got
the other day.

Take care,
Martha

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 Martha:  I have a children's book that I have had for many years-way
 before I even knew what a Fjordhorse was.  It's called The Terrible Troll
 Bird-written and illustrated by Ingri and edgar Parin d'Aulaire.  The story
 is about a brother, Ola and his sisters, Lina Sina, and Trina, who along with
  thier Fjordhorse, Blaaken, defeat the gigantic troll bird in Norway.  The
 illustrations are lithographs and are beautiful.  Ingri had grown up in
 Norway-her and her husband both studied art in Europe and later moved to the
 U.S.  I have never seen this book for sale, but I have seen others by these
 authors in Norwegian gift shops.  This book of course took on new meaning to
 me after I became the owner of a Fjordhorse.  I love the way the authors have
 Blaaken following behind the children as they go to the woods for firewood
 and after seeing the troll bird they flee for home with blaaken first!  I
 had to laugh!  That's my Fjord too!
 The book was published by Doubleday back in 1976.  Hope you find a copy!  By
 the way, where are you in so. Wi?  I live in Milw.Joni






Re: Office Closed

2000-11-15 Thread Northhorse
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Mike, 
Sounds like a wonderful trip.  You're making the rounds of ALL the islands?  
Have you gone to Kauai yet?  Or are you going to go there?  There are a 
couple great stables in Princeville that offer either rides or wagon trips 
out into the hills for a wonderful barbecue.  If you're heading that way and 
want the info, let me know. 

Meantime, Aloha
Pamela



Re: Office Closed

2000-11-15 Thread Bushnell's
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I am now on Maui in a nice Condo just 
north of Lihana right on the ocean.  It is a beautiful night, the door is 
open on the ocean front and I can hear the surf.  It is about 75 deg or so 
I would say.  This is about 8:20 pm.

Mike


H, It appears our registrar has a bit of a mean streak, and he
seemed like such a nice guy ! 

=)) Ruthie, in the northwest deepfreeze of Montana




Re: Zoooming home...

2000-11-15 Thread carol j makosky
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linda hickam wrote:

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 I agree..being on a runaway, hell bent for home ,is really scary.

Hi from Carol in finally winter in WI, but still not much snow.

You should never let your horse run back to the barn.  I also make it a 
practice to
go past my drive on the way home.  If Heidi seems especially anxious to get 
home, I
go way past my drive and then turn around and go past it the other way.  Basic 
horse
sense is to never let your horse be the boss and decide what they want to do.


 

--
Built FJORD tough
Carol M.
On Golden Pond
Northern Wisconsin






Re: Office Closed...

2000-11-15 Thread Karen McCarthy

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I am now on Maui   a beautiful night, the door is open on the ocean 
front and I can hear the surf.  It is about 75 deg or so

Mike


Gee thanks for the report Mike!
BTW: right now, some of us have to deal with getting up in sheer toe 
stubbing blackness, 8 deg out, frost on frost on top of 17 of crusty snow, 
2 layers of long underwear inside of coveralls, racing into work surrounded 
by suicidal SUV driving gerbils, all of us listening with drooping lips to 
the radio's unbroken rant about hanging chads and dashed hopesat the 
same time trying to listen to the little voice asking, ummm, is that black 
ice out there??

.now, would you please leave us alone  get on with your vacation?
I would suggest you retire your laptop to the soothing cocoon of the hotel 
safe for the remainder of your sojurn.

Night!
Click.
Karen,
Carson City, NV
(THE state cap.)
...feeling a little too bushy-eyed at this late hour; damn caffiene anyway!

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Re: Office Closed

2000-11-15 Thread Jean Ernest
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  I am now on Maui in a nice Condo just 
north of Lihana right on the ocean.  It is a beautiful night, the door is 
open on the ocean front and I can hear the surf.  It is about 75 deg or so 
I would say.  This is about 8:20 pm.

Mike

OK, Mike, quit!  Do you have to rub it in?  LOL

Jean in balmy (for this time of year) Fairbanks, Alaska, presently 12
degrees and moonlight on the snow.

Jean Ernest
Fairbanks, Alaska
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