Re: New Wintec saddle

2001-06-17 Thread Carol J. Makosky
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Jean Gayle wrote:

> This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Denise I think it was you who was asking about a dog pooping in the truck?
> Have you tried cloroxing the truck and then when the fumes are gone, feeding
> him in the truck?

Hi,
I just can't resist jumping into this one.  What a subject!!!  We use to have
this lab that loved to poop and pee in the water.  It was most embarassing when
we were at the semi public swimming areas around here.  We always had to keep a
good eye on what she was up to while playing in the water and make sure she did
her jobs in the right place.  LOL


--
"Built FJORD tough"
Carol M.
On Golden Pond
Northern Wisconsin





Re: New Wintec saddle

2001-06-17 Thread Denise Delgado
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dear jean,  i mentioned the clorax to the hubs.  he tried it.  it didn't
work, but the feeding sounds like it might.  good idea.  thx, denise





Re: New Wintec saddle

2001-06-17 Thread Jean Gayle
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Denise I think it was you who was asking about a dog pooping in the truck?
Have you tried cloroxing the truck and then when the fumes are gone, feeding
him in the truck?  Usually a dog does not want to eat where he has pooped.
Jean





Jean Walters Gayle
Aberdeen, WA
[Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter"
Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ]
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Re: Baby Question

2001-06-17 Thread Carol J. Makosky
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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> Hi listers!
>
> Well, at 9 hours old little Olga is doing great!  Only one little
> peculiarity Since getting steady on her feet at about 11:30 this morning
> (She was born at 10:40) she has not laid back down,

I'm no expert on foals, but maybe she has not figured this out yet.


--
"Built FJORD tough"
Carol M.
On Golden Pond
Northern Wisconsin





Baby Question

2001-06-17 Thread DLFjords
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Hi listers!

Well, at 9 hours old little Olga is doing great!  Only one little 
peculiarity Since getting steady on her feet at about 11:30 this morning 
(She was born at 10:40) she has not laid back down, AT ALL!!  She is sleeping 
on her feet at this very moment.  I have never seen this before in all the 
foals we've had.  Emily has been down to take a nap several times today, but 
not little Olga.  Is she just tough or what??

Amy

Dun Lookin' Fjords
Bud, Tillie & Amy Evers
Redmond, OR
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ridge/8589





Libby 2000 Fjord Horse show pictures available again

2001-06-17 Thread Frederick J. Pack
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http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4292526241

Fred and Lois Pack
Pack's Peak Stables
Wilkeson, WA USA
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/3158 





Re: New Wintec saddle

2001-06-17 Thread Epona1971
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Hi Sue-

First, please stop calling yourself short and fat! We female equestrians come 
in all shapes and sizes and are all beautiful, like Epona on her white horse. 
So there : )

The "swaying" you describe is not uncommon and can be dangerous. A too-tight 
or ill-placed cinch will actually cut off the horse's circulation and cause 
fainting.

We expect a full report on your new Wintec. I love to hear about different 
kinds of tack. I too had a problem with the saddle slipping. I am not small, 
my horses are round as barrels, and I now have a treeless saddle, so just try 
to mount without slipping! I don't know what I did before purchasing this 
product  http://www.hotstuff4horses.com/saddle_stabilizer.htm";>
Saddle Stabilizer - holds your saddle in place while mounting!  Check it 
out.

Brigid M Wasson 

San Francisco Bay Area, CA 
 http://ourfjords.freeservers.com/fjord1/Our_Fjordsx.html";>Our Fjords
  





non-fjord chat

2001-06-17 Thread Denise Delgado
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bridgid,  my husband is training our new dog from the shelter with
clicker training.  it works!!  but i know you already know that.  do you
have any idea, how to train him not to poop in the back of the pick-up
bed while he rides?  he loves to ride back there, chained of course.  he
is about 10 months old and a rottwieler/aussie shep mix.  never had a
dog do this before and it is a hassle as you can imagine.  denise





Re: New Wintec saddle

2001-06-17 Thread Denise Delgado
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dear sue,  glad you finally found a saddle you like and your horse
likes.  what about your knee pain?  does it help?  have you tried a
breast collar?  fjords don't have much in the way of withers and a
breast collar might help keep your saddle where it was meant to be.  a
loose saddle could be dangerous.

a mere suggestion on storm and his nosiness.  i think i recall he is
pretty young, right?  anyway age doesn't matter.  it sounds like he
needs some lessons and ground work on staying back out of your space.  a
crowder can be dangerous, should something spook him and he decides to
clear out...over the top of you!  yikes!  for ideas on what to do in
that regard, check out ground work/respect problems with john lyons,
marty marten or frank bell.  i think they have websites.  it really
works.  i have used the exercises on my old mare who used to charge
ahead of me and try and lead me, instead of the other way around.  now
she stays back about 6 ft. on a slack lead rope.  if she gets too close,
all i have to do is just start to look back at her and she freezes, and
steps back. it does take time and work but is well worth it for safety's
sake.  just a thought.  denise





New Wintec saddle

2001-06-17 Thread Sue Harrison
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Catz by Christina's Desktop Reflections (Original art by Braldt Bralds)
Dear list.We went out for a short ride the other night. I decided to try
out the black saddle that came with Misty.  Just as we got in the woods, I
shoved or at least tried to shove my fingers under the hornno way...
dumb saddle was sitting right on her withers! How the girl I bought Misty
(Arab) from used it I have no idea.  Needless to say, Misty was antsy and
when I realized my cinch was loose, I asked Randy to stop so we could
tighten it up.  He said wait till we find a wide spot in the trail, which we
did.  I hopped off and proceded to tighten up.  Well..I went to pull my
short fat self back up and the saddle rolledand down I went in a heap
(On the only rock in the trail) and landed right under Misty's belly.  She
sort of jumped a bit (saddle hanging off her side.( When we had first fitted
the saddle to her a few days before, it was too tight and she started
swayingever had a horse do that? which is why I hate to cinch her up to
tight at firstbut if I fall off enough times, I just might remember to
tighten before I mount up.I am a bit rusty, not having saddled up for
two years.*grin*) .  Randy sputtered at me, did some adjustments and gave me
a leg back up.  On we wentthen there was some string, used by thinners
working in the woods...stretched right across the trail.  Randy took hold of
it for me to go underand it stretched...and stretchedand
stretchedwhen it finally broke, Misty shot under it at a fightened
gallop.  Randy reaches out and grabs at me, pushing me in the
throatroaring"sit back in that saddle... do you want to go off over
her head?" (I do have a habit of leaning ahead) Any way I collected the mare
from her mad dash, and we continued on.  I wished for a pile of rotten
apples or a rock or anything... mushy horse turdanything to throw at
him!  I am hoping the mare was upset because of the ill fitting saddle.
This last trip did itwe went saddle shopping and I bought a brand new
western Wintec saddle. If you want to see it go
here.http://www.arcaros.com/wintecws.htm   We got home and tacked her
up...of course, I didn't over tighten the saddle...and you guessed
itwhen I went to mount, the saddle rolled, and off I came again...Randy
caught me this time...so I didn't quite hit the ground.  This time Misty
simply stood there, saddle hanging off her side, till I loosened the cinch,
slid it upright on her and tightened it again.  Randy told her "its ok
Misty...get used to it...thats the way your mistress gets off". LOL
cheeshe you would think I would learn...TIGHTEN and double check cinch
before mounting!! du.  At least we made a wire pattern for Misty and
were sure the saddle would fit her withers before we even bought it...It
appears to fit her perfectly.  Is it just the English saddles that have the
replacable gullet?  I forgot to ask the dealer.  Sure hope the same saddle
will fit Storm next year.
Oh well I will cross that bridge when I  get to it. Some of you mentioned me
getting a Wintec when I wrote last week complaining about sore knees after
riding. Are there quite a few Wintec western saddles out there?  What do you
all think of them?  Randy's horse has started getting dry spots on both
sides of his withers after he is ridden.  He is using a Professional's
choice saddle pad...and he does not remember him getting the dry spots with
his old padcould the new saddle pad be the problem? ( It is an expensive
one that  the guys from work gave him when he retired.)Or is it more apt to
be his saddle?  He is going to try my Wintec...if it works he will probably
get one and then we will have three saddles for sale instead of just my two.
 Storm is fat and sassyseems to think he is some sort of
dogretreiver at that!  Lugs anything and everything around in his mouth.
Follows at my heals, and is in to anything I try to do...Our fencing goes
like thispush pony out of the way...put nail in insulater and start to
pound in fence post...push pony's nose out of the way...hit nail once, push
nose backfinally get up and litterly push pony out of the way
againorder him out of the fencing stuff. When all else fails, yell for
hubby to feed him or take him away.
Well it is supper time and I smell the bbque.  So long for now,
Sue in N.B. (Desert Storm's mom)





Re: ITS A FILLY!!

2001-06-17 Thread Epona1971
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In a message dated 6/17/01 11:50:28 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< To soon to tell color but hopefully a Grey. 
 She is a big one, just like Silregn was last year, at lease 40' tall and not 
 stretched out yet.Her name is
  Dun Lookin' Olga  >>

Well happy Father's Day to the Evers!!

Congrats on a healthy foal of any persuasion... Perhaps she will mature well 
enough to carry on Bjorn's line.

I'm just headed to my Dad's house now, taking him out for a collector car 
show and "snacks." : ) Jack will have dinner for us when we get home tonight. 
The only drawback to all this family activity is, no time to ride!!

Brigid M Wasson 

San Francisco Bay Area, CA 
 http://ourfjords.freeservers.com/fjord1/Our_Fjordsx.html";>Our Fjords
  





Re: This has very little to do with Fjords, but it might stop a problem somet...

2001-06-17 Thread Epona1971
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Fred and Lois, I'm so sorry to hear of your loss. Having owned many dogs and 
cats, I've been in some catastrophies and it's a terrible lonely feeling. You 
are always wondering if you could have done this or that differently, would 
it have happened? Time and prayer are the best healers...

About rabies, yes, I am aware of the testing procedure having worked at a 
humane society shelter. I am surprised that your vet was unaware of the 
protocol. Vets and anyone else who works with animals should learn as much as 
possible from local or national authorities. Most of this info is free and 
easily obtained through the mail or internet.



Brigid M Wasson 

San Francisco Bay Area, CA 
 http://ourfjords.freeservers.com/fjord1/Our_Fjordsx.html";>Our Fjords
  





ITS A FILLY!!

2001-06-17 Thread tillie34
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   What a Father's day gift we have.
Emily had her foal less than 1 hour ago. All is going good so far. Its up and 
trying to find the milk factory. To soon to tell color but hopefully a Grey. 
She is a big one, just like Silregn was last year, at lease 40' tall and not 
stretched out yet.Her name is
 Dun Lookin' Olga . We had that name picked for several months and none for a 
colt. Bjorn-Knutson did it again. He favored Fillies.   I will have pictures 
soon. Now  we wait  for the one in Texas and another in Oregon. Our next 
years crop will be by Blaamann.  Tillie




Dun Lookin' Fjords
Bud,Tillie & Amy Evers
Redmond OR  (541) 548-6018
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ridge/8589





Re: knee action

2001-06-17 Thread coyote
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Careful work over ground poles or cavaletti and trail riding on hilly
ground might also be helpful to encourage balance, coordination, and
agility.

Mary wrote:
> ...So far as I know, No one uses "devices" to encourage
> Fjords to better knee action. ...  Hopefully
> it never will

I heartily agree with Mary's point of view. Fjords are "using" horses.
They need to be agile and well balanced when they move -- stumbling is
not a good thing. But I'd be horrified if people trained and/or bred
them for high knee action. There's no need for that in anything but a
flashy carriage horse or a show horse -- and even that's an arguable
point.

On a related subject, I red an article in the 2000-2001 issue of the
Draft Horse Journal that discussed the incredibly high head carriage
most draft show horses have. These horses are selected and trained to
have a "naturally" high head carriage, then their heads are forced even
higher with a bridoon bit (a thinner version of a regular bit) that is
attached to a tight check rein. 

When they're "checked up" like that, the horses can't breathe correctly,
nor can they really pull efficiently. But they "sure do look nice" to
the judges and the crowd. The judges reward that kind of artificial head
set with the blue ribbons. Horses performing with naturally-high head
sets don't even place.

In visiting recently with a driver of a show hitch of percherons, he
said "the horses don't mind carrying their heads that high", but I could
hear them wheezing when he checked them up. He also had to jerk the
bridoon deep into the corners of the horse's mouth to get the horse's
head up high enough to suit him -- it looked so terribly uncomfortable!

> ...One CAN encourage a particularly
> clumsy Fjord to pick up its front feet better by using
> a heavier shoe on the front feet

While I agree that this can help, I do believe it should be done Mary
describes it -- in moderation. This technique can be taken wy too
far, since I have seen what show hitch people do with shoeing and
trimming a horse's feet.

Some show people will shape the hoof so the toe is much longer than it
should be, then let the entire hoof grow overly long -- this also forces
the animal to pick his foot up higher. The effect is as if a person
would wear shoes were too long for his foot. Unfortunately, this kind of
abnormal hoof shape also puts a lot of stress on the tendons in the
foot.

Another technique used by gaited and saddlebred horse owners to get more
action is to put weighted "bracelets" on the horse's front pasterns when
the horse is in training. These show people also sit "saddle seat" (as
if you're sitting in a chair, not balanced over your legs and seat) and
somehow pump their bodies up and down as they ride to get the action
they want. It looks incredibly awkward to watch -- but boy do those
horses lift and stride! I just don't want to think about what the horses
must feel as they trot around the ring like that.

I won't even get into what I think about "soring" the horse for more
"fire" and "action".

DeeAnna





Ortho-Flex for sale

2001-06-17 Thread Mariposa Farm
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We have an Ortho-Flex Caliente model saddle for sale.  It is a 15" seat
and is in excellent / almost brand new condition.  The mare we bought it
for doesn't fit the saddle anymore and we are also looking for more of a
"standard" western look for showing.  Comes with saddle pad and boot
system.  We would be keeping the girth.  This saddle usually fits Fjords
(as well as others just fine) but this mare is REAL drafty and has an
almost flat back / ribcage.  We are asking 1,700 (paid 2,200.00).  This
is a very comfortable saddle.  There is a picture of it on the
Ortho-Flex site at http://www.ortho-flex.com/s-western.shtml

If anyone is interested please contact me privately.

Thanks,

Mark McGinley
Mariposa Farm





Re: New Horse, old horse

2001-06-17 Thread Mike May, Registrar NFHR

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At 07:42 AM 6/16/01 -0700, you wrote:

Just a little known fact of questionable interest here. The horse, Siri,
being mentioned here, would not be registerable in CFHA as she has
unknowns.  There may be an exception to that rule if said horse was
foaled in Canada but not sure on that. Maybe Mr May knows.


I am not sure of the Canadian Rules on these "Unknowns" Mr Harmon.  I can 
answer any questions on the NFHR rule but will not on other 
Registries.  The NFHR does have certain horses that are listed as 
"Foundation Stock"  The dam of Siri is one of them.  Canada also has some 
but they don't always have the same ones as we do listed.  The old stallion 
Buck was one of Canada's listed with a "Purdy mare" as the dam.


Siri's dam is recognized with the NFHR & the NFA of NA.

Mike